You hit it right on the money! The blade Willow ends up with IS Stormbringer!
And the reason she ends up with it is due to a pact she made with the Lords of
Chaos: If she is sent back, via the portal that they open, she in turn creates a
portal for them to enter OUR WORLD! But, to open the portal, Willow needs three
very powerful blood items to complete the ritual to open the portal: Blood of
the Slayer (Buffy), Blood of a Hellgoddess (Glory) and power of the Key (Blood
of Dawn)!

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "D" <m.ringe@...> wrote:
>
>
> Could be very interesting.  I suspect that it is either Stormbringer or
Mournblade in the case and how did Willow end up with it?  I can see Angel being
involved in this.  I might make it Willow and Angel that got pulled back with
Elric and two cases coming back but then Cornelius might end up involved or one
of the other Eternal Champions.  I can even envision Angel being an incarnation
of the EC in our dimension.  He is properly broody and dark.
>
> mendenbar
>
> --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Harry V" <egad40@> wrote:
> >
> > I thought that with the lack of activity here, I would throw out a few ideas
for a AU that I have been working on and see what the group thinks of it. It is
set in Season 5 of Buffy, which would be season 2 of Angel. For Charmed, it
would be late season 3, before Prue's death. The storyline is that during a
dimensional convergance, the incarnation of the Eternal Champion, Elric of
Melnibone, ends up in Sunnydale. To prevent any more problems, Willow is called
upon to send him back to his plane. But, being upon the Hellmouth, things do not
go as planned, and Willow gets sucked along with Elric when the spell kicks in. 
When she returns five minutes later, she is older, and carrying a black case. 
Depending on the feedback, to the start of this tale, I will tell all just WHAT
was in the case and how the others will come in.
> >
>

Could be very interesting.  I suspect that it is either Stormbringer or
Mournblade in the case and how did Willow end up with it?  I can see Angel being
involved in this.  I might make it Willow and Angel that got pulled back with
Elric and two cases coming back but then Cornelius might end up involved or one
of the other Eternal Champions.  I can even envision Angel being an incarnation
of the EC in our dimension.  He is properly broody and dark.

mendenbar

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Harry V" <egad40@...> wrote:
>
> I thought that with the lack of activity here, I would throw out a few ideas
for a AU that I have been working on and see what the group thinks of it. It is
set in Season 5 of Buffy, which would be season 2 of Angel. For Charmed, it
would be late season 3, before Prue's death. The storyline is that during a
dimensional convergance, the incarnation of the Eternal Champion, Elric of
Melnibone, ends up in Sunnydale. To prevent any more problems, Willow is called
upon to send him back to his plane. But, being upon the Hellmouth, things do not
go as planned, and Willow gets sucked along with Elric when the spell kicks in. 
When she returns five minutes later, she is older, and carrying a black case. 
Depending on the feedback, to the start of this tale, I will tell all just WHAT
was in the case and how the others will come in.
>

I thought that with the lack of activity here, I would throw out a few ideas for
a AU that I have been working on and see what the group thinks of it. It is set
in Season 5 of Buffy, which would be season 2 of Angel. For Charmed, it would be
late season 3, before Prue's death. The storyline is that during a dimensional
convergance, the incarnation of the Eternal Champion, Elric of Melnibone, ends
up in Sunnydale. To prevent any more problems, Willow is called upon to send him
back to his plane. But, being upon the Hellmouth, things do not go as planned,
and Willow gets sucked along with Elric when the spell kicks in.  When she
returns five minutes later, she is older, and carrying a black case.  Depending
on the feedback, to the start of this tale, I will tell all just WHAT was in the
case and how the others will come in.

If you need someone to bounce Ideas off of Kirsten, I am always willing to
listen and help out. Just drop me a IM and I will be glad to help out!

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "zillagirl84" <cillagirl84@...> wrote:
>
> I'm still working on my latest chapter. I'm just a little stuck right now. I
find it very easy to write about Mr & Mrs Turner - however, writing about their
relationship in the beginning is giving me fits.
>
> Please bear with me,
> Kirsten
>

I'm still working on my latest chapter. I'm just a little stuck right now. I
find it very easy to write about Mr & Mrs Turner - however, writing about their
relationship in the beginning is giving me fits.

Please bear with me,
Kirsten

Thanks, Harry! My problem is making some of these chapters not appear to be all
explanation. I know Cole, Willow, Giles, etc, need to learn about what's
happening - but I don't want it to seem to be just a lecture.

I also want to be able to put some conflict in - some outside conflict that is.

-Kirsti

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Harry V" <egad40@...> wrote:
>
> *Applaudes* Nicely done! I can hardly wait for more of it!--- In
willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "zillagirl2002" <cillagirl84@> wrote:
> >
> > After not writing last weekend, I got a little more done on Third Time's The
Charm:
> >
> > Part Two
> >
> > She was glorious, truly glorious, he thought. Cole was seated in a chair
next to the window, his long legs crossed at the ankles, just watching her.
Waiting. He'd convinced her not to call her friends or throw him out. So, now he
was just waiting. And feeling. She didn't suppress or camouflage or even ward
her energies. It was in continuous flux - ebbing and flowing and extending from
her all the time. It was frustrating, aggravating, and enticing him all at the
same time. He was continually struggling to keep his own dark energies from
reaching out to contact hers. He had heard what had happened to demons that
weren't too careful with dark witches before.
> >
> > Willow was feeling very disturbed. She felt like her skin was too tight,
like she would explode at any moment. She knew that her Dark side was extremely
attracted and aroused by him. But that didn't explain what she was feeling. This
was something she had never felt before. She didn't think she could even
levitate a pencil to save her life. She looked up and met his eyes. She
shuddered without even realizing it. He smiled and she bristled with annoyance…
and something else.
> >
> > "I'm sorry." Willow jumped at the sound of his voice. "I know this is hard.
Believe it or not it's hard for me, too. I like to be in control of the demon -
not the other way around."
> >
> > "Forgive me if I don't believe you. You look quite calm and smug, sitting
there. You know so much more about what's happening. I'm not too sure I
shouldn't just…"
> >
> > "You're wrong. I am in just as much turmoil as you are. The only difference
is that I have an idea of what's behind it. I was raised in a demonic
environment. I know what this is - academically speaking that is. Not from
personal experience. That is as new to me as it is to you."
> >
> > Academically, he says. That's interesting. "Then explain. Or do you have a
book or text I can read?"
> >
> > Cole chuckled. Yeah, right. Even if the Attendants had a text, they'd never
relinquish custody of it. "Not exactly. But I was taught things. Everything an
upper level demon might need to know about his breed. When we mate - when we
take a mate, it is primarily a biological - a hormonal - process." He held up
his hand to forestall her interruption as he saw her take a breath to speak. "I
know, I know, you're not a demon - but you are a Dark Witch. As I was saying…"
> >
> > "But biologically - hormonally - I'm a human being. Magic is learned -
it's…"
> >
> > "NO!" Willow jumped as she saw him jump to his feet and approach her.
Instinctively, she scurried backwards on the bed, reaching forward to hold him
off and---  WHUMP! Cole shook his head with disbelief - and quite a bit of pain
- and looked up at Willow who had gone pale with shock. Oh, well, he thought, it
was going to happen eventually.
> >
>

*Applaudes* Nicely done! I can hardly wait for more of it!--- In
willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "zillagirl2002" <cillagirl84@...> wrote:
>
> After not writing last weekend, I got a little more done on Third Time's The
Charm:
>
> Part Two
>
> She was glorious, truly glorious, he thought. Cole was seated in a chair next
to the window, his long legs crossed at the ankles, just watching her. Waiting.
He'd convinced her not to call her friends or throw him out. So, now he was just
waiting. And feeling. She didn't suppress or camouflage or even ward her
energies. It was in continuous flux - ebbing and flowing and extending from her
all the time. It was frustrating, aggravating, and enticing him all at the same
time. He was continually struggling to keep his own dark energies from reaching
out to contact hers. He had heard what had happened to demons that weren't too
careful with dark witches before.
>
> Willow was feeling very disturbed. She felt like her skin was too tight, like
she would explode at any moment. She knew that her Dark side was extremely
attracted and aroused by him. But that didn't explain what she was feeling. This
was something she had never felt before. She didn't think she could even
levitate a pencil to save her life. She looked up and met his eyes. She
shuddered without even realizing it. He smiled and she bristled with annoyance…
and something else.
>
> "I'm sorry." Willow jumped at the sound of his voice. "I know this is hard.
Believe it or not it's hard for me, too. I like to be in control of the demon -
not the other way around."
>
> "Forgive me if I don't believe you. You look quite calm and smug, sitting
there. You know so much more about what's happening. I'm not too sure I
shouldn't just…"
>
> "You're wrong. I am in just as much turmoil as you are. The only difference is
that I have an idea of what's behind it. I was raised in a demonic environment.
I know what this is - academically speaking that is. Not from personal
experience. That is as new to me as it is to you."
>
> Academically, he says. That's interesting. "Then explain. Or do you have a
book or text I can read?"
>
> Cole chuckled. Yeah, right. Even if the Attendants had a text, they'd never
relinquish custody of it. "Not exactly. But I was taught things. Everything an
upper level demon might need to know about his breed. When we mate - when we
take a mate, it is primarily a biological - a hormonal - process." He held up
his hand to forestall her interruption as he saw her take a breath to speak. "I
know, I know, you're not a demon - but you are a Dark Witch. As I was saying…"
>
> "But biologically - hormonally - I'm a human being. Magic is learned - it's…"
>
> "NO!" Willow jumped as she saw him jump to his feet and approach her.
Instinctively, she scurried backwards on the bed, reaching forward to hold him
off and---  WHUMP! Cole shook his head with disbelief - and quite a bit of pain
- and looked up at Willow who had gone pale with shock. Oh, well, he thought, it
was going to happen eventually.
>

After not writing last weekend, I got a little more done on Third Time's The
Charm:

Part Two

She was glorious, truly glorious, he thought. Cole was seated in a chair next to
the window, his long legs crossed at the ankles, just watching her. Waiting.
He'd convinced her not to call her friends or throw him out. So, now he was just
waiting. And feeling. She didn't suppress or camouflage or even ward her
energies. It was in continuous flux - ebbing and flowing and extending from her
all the time. It was frustrating, aggravating, and enticing him all at the same
time. He was continually struggling to keep his own dark energies from reaching
out to contact hers. He had heard what had happened to demons that weren't too
careful with dark witches before.

Willow was feeling very disturbed. She felt like her skin was too tight, like
she would explode at any moment. She knew that her Dark side was extremely
attracted and aroused by him. But that didn't explain what she was feeling. This
was something she had never felt before. She didn't think she could even
levitate a pencil to save her life. She looked up and met his eyes. She
shuddered without even realizing it. He smiled and she bristled with annoyance…
and something else.

"I'm sorry." Willow jumped at the sound of his voice. "I know this is hard.
Believe it or not it's hard for me, too. I like to be in control of the demon -
not the other way around."

"Forgive me if I don't believe you. You look quite calm and smug, sitting there.
You know so much more about what's happening. I'm not too sure I shouldn't
just…"

"You're wrong. I am in just as much turmoil as you are. The only difference is
that I have an idea of what's behind it. I was raised in a demonic environment.
I know what this is - academically speaking that is. Not from personal
experience. That is as new to me as it is to you."

Academically, he says. That's interesting. "Then explain. Or do you have a book
or text I can read?"

Cole chuckled. Yeah, right. Even if the Attendants had a text, they'd never
relinquish custody of it. "Not exactly. But I was taught things. Everything an
upper level demon might need to know about his breed. When we mate - when we
take a mate, it is primarily a biological - a hormonal - process." He held up
his hand to forestall her interruption as he saw her take a breath to speak. "I
know, I know, you're not a demon - but you are a Dark Witch. As I was saying…"

"But biologically - hormonally - I'm a human being. Magic is learned - it's…"

"NO!" Willow jumped as she saw him jump to his feet and approach her.
Instinctively, she scurried backwards on the bed, reaching forward to hold him
off and---  WHUMP! Cole shook his head with disbelief - and quite a bit of pain
- and looked up at Willow who had gone pale with shock. Oh, well, he thought, it
was going to happen eventually.

Sorry, I should put a header on this. It's the prequel, Third Time's The Charm.

-Kirsti

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, Catherine Dugan <coleforever1000@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Another great chapter, but which story is this? Sorry, but my mind is fried.
>
>
>
> Cathie
>
>
>
>
>
> To: willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com
> From: cillagirl84@...
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:51:23 +0000
> Subject: [willowinthorns] Writing Diary 091109
>
>
>
>
>
> Wrote a little more of Chapter 7 (see below). However, I seem to have gotten
stuck. Will have to do some brainstorming before I go on. I hope everyone has a
nice weekend.
>
> -Kirsten
>
> ************************************************************************
>
> Chapter Eight
>
> Disclaimer: I do not own any of the characters of Buffy the Vampire Slayer,
Angel, or Charmed.
>
> Summary:
>
> Chapter Eight
>
> Part One
>
> Angel looked Giles carefully in the eye. He knew that Giles needed to know
what he knew, or what he believed to be true. But he wasn't sure how to begin.
And what good would come of knowing? After all, there was not much to be done.
It would be safer to just lock yourself in a bomb shelter until it was over -
from what he knew of the process.
>
> "Well?" Giles repeated. This silence of Angel's was really starting to disturb
him. Not that the vampire was normally that conversational, but there was
something foreboding about his attitude. Not just that he wouldn't like was he
going to be told - no, it would be much, much worse he was sure.
>
> Angel tried to give Giles a comforting look - but all he managed to do, it
seemed, was alarm the Watcher even more. He chuckled quietly and took a deep
(and unnecessary) breath to begin. "Perhaps I should start with the demon. About
his origin. Do you have any idea of what sort of demon he is?"
>
> About bloody time, Giles thought to himself. Now we can get some answers. "I
didn't recognize the type. I've been looking through the indexes…"
>
> "Haven't found it yet, have you? And you won't. Those indexes are only good
for one sort of evil."
>
> Giles frowned. One sort of evil? "What on earth are you on about Angel? If the
demon isn't in the book, it's because no one ever documented it."
>
> Angel shook his head. This was going to take a while. It did surprise him that
Angel didn't know about them. From what he had heard over the centuries, he
would've thought that the Watchers knew about them. "I am surprised Giles. I
really had thought the Watchers knew about the Underworld."
>
> "The Underworld? As in Hell?" Giles chuckled. "I'm surprised at you, Angel.
That's just a fabrication made by Man to…"
>
> "No. It isn't. You know yourself from experience that legends, fairy tales,
myths… they all have a kernel of truth at their heart. Hansel and Gretel,
remember?"
>
> Giles froze. Angel was right. There could be a kernel of truth to the myth of
the Underworld, Hell, Hades - whatever you wanted to call it. "Bloody hell. Are
you saying he's… he's Satan? And that the Council knew about this?"
>
> Now, it was Angel's turn to chuckle. "No, not Satan. I believe there is a head
demon. But, I rather think this Cole is not him."
>
> "And the Council? Are you sure they knew?"
>
> "No. It's just that from legends - myths - that I heard of the origin of the
Slayer, I assumed that…"
>
> Giles bolted upright. "What. The. Hell. Are. You. Talking. About?"
> Part Two
>
> She was glorious, truly glorious, he thought. Cole was seated in a chair next
to the window, his long legs crossed at the ankles, just watching her. Waiting.
He'd convinced her not to call her friends or throw him out. So, now he was just
waiting. And feeling. She didn't suppress or camouflage or even ward her
energies. It was in continuous flux - ebbing and flowing and extending from her
all the time. It was frustrating, aggravating, and enticing him all at the same
time. He was continually struggling to keep his own dark energies from reaching
out to contact hers. He had heard what had happened to demons that weren't too
careful with dark witches before. He intended to be careful and successful.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
>

Ditto! I always felt that Cole gave so much in that relationship and Phoebe
always seemed to be taking. She really got on my nerves towards the end.

That's why I invented Cole & Willow - he needs a nice healthy relationship.

-Kirsti

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, Catherine Dugan <coleforever1000@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Wow! Someone else who feels the way I do about Phoebe! I feel the same about
Phoebe, that's why I write Cole & Piper stories. She's more caring, more loving.
>
>
>
> To: willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com
> From: m.ringe@...
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:38:07 +0000
> Subject: [willowinthorns] Re: I need your help...
>
>
>
>
>
> How honest do you want to be? Poked at daily, weekly, spur of the moment? I am
still in this group even if everyone else packed up and left. I enjoy your
stories too much to leave even if you are on hiatus for a century or twelve.
>
> I like Cole and Willow (I hated Cole and Phoebe after awhile. She treated him
like something you would scrape off your shoe but she was "a Charmed One" and
therefore better than anyone. But she caused most of their problems and he is
much better off without her and with Willow.) I particularly like the
interactions with C/W X and A/B and naturally Giles. I also was intrigued by the
interaction with Nick and LaCroix in Toronto. I wonder what LaCroix would think
of the rest of Angel and Buffy's family? I don't really care where you go, I
would just like some more of this AU.
>
> D
>
> --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "zillagirl2002" <cillagirl84@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi! I don't know if anyone is still in this group - I haven't been a very
good host.
> >
> > I have gotten more nice reviews for Willow in Thorns recently. It always
amazes me that people like that story so much. I loved writing it - and it was
my first. I think the main thing is how much I love the idea of Cole & Willow
together.
> >
> > I want to start writing again. And I hoped that some of you would try and
keep me honest. Please don't let me forget to work on this.
> >
> > I have a lot of stories that I haven't finished. I'm not sure which to work
on first. The prequel and the Xander's Secret story come to mind.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kirsten
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
>

Wrote a little more of Chapter 7 (see below). However, I seem to have gotten
stuck. Will have to do some brainstorming before I go on. I hope everyone has a
nice weekend.

-Kirsten

************************************************************************

Chapter Eight

Disclaimer:  I do not own any of the characters of Buffy the Vampire Slayer,
Angel, or Charmed.

Summary:

Chapter Eight

Part One

Angel looked Giles carefully in the eye. He knew that Giles needed to know what
he knew, or what he believed to be true. But he wasn't sure how to begin. And
what good would come of knowing? After all, there was not much to be done. It
would be safer to just lock yourself in a bomb shelter until it was over - from
what he knew of the process.

"Well?" Giles repeated. This silence of Angel's was really starting to disturb
him. Not that the vampire was normally that conversational, but there was
something foreboding about his attitude. Not just that he wouldn't like was he
going to be told - no, it would be much, much worse he was sure.

Angel tried to give Giles a comforting look - but all he managed to do, it
seemed, was alarm the Watcher even more. He chuckled quietly and took a deep
(and unnecessary) breath to begin. "Perhaps I should start with the demon. About
his origin. Do you have any idea of what sort of demon he is?"

About bloody time, Giles thought to himself. Now we can get some answers. "I
didn't recognize the type. I've been looking through the indexes…"

"Haven't found it yet, have you? And you won't. Those indexes are only good for
one sort of evil."

Giles frowned. One sort of evil? "What on earth are you on about Angel? If the
demon isn't in the book, it's because no one ever documented it."

Angel shook his head. This was going to take a while. It did surprise him that
Angel didn't know about them. From what he had heard over the centuries, he
would've thought that the Watchers knew about them. "I am surprised Giles. I
really had thought the Watchers knew about the Underworld."

"The Underworld? As in Hell?" Giles chuckled. "I'm surprised at you, Angel.
That's just a fabrication made by Man to…"

"No. It isn't. You know yourself from experience that legends, fairy tales,
myths… they all have a kernel of truth at their heart. Hansel and Gretel,
remember?"

Giles froze. Angel was right. There could be a kernel of truth to the myth of
the Underworld, Hell, Hades - whatever you wanted to call it. "Bloody hell. Are
you saying he's… he's Satan? And that the Council knew about this?"

Now, it was Angel's turn to chuckle. "No, not Satan. I believe there is a head
demon. But, I rather think this Cole is not him."

"And the Council? Are you sure they knew?"

"No. It's just that from legends - myths - that I heard of the origin of the
Slayer, I assumed that…"

Giles bolted upright. "What. The. Hell. Are. You. Talking. About?"
Part Two

She was glorious, truly glorious, he thought. Cole was seated in a chair next to
the window, his long legs crossed at the ankles, just watching her. Waiting.
He'd convinced her not to call her friends or throw him out. So, now he was just
waiting. And feeling. She didn't suppress or camouflage or even ward her
energies. It was in continuous flux - ebbing and flowing and extending from her
all the time. It was frustrating, aggravating, and enticing him all at the same
time. He was continually struggling to keep his own dark energies from reaching
out to contact hers. He had heard what had happened to demons that weren't too
careful with dark witches before. He intended to be careful and successful.

Absolutely can't wait!

D

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "zillagirl2002" <cillagirl84@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I did accomplish something. I spent about 30 minutes reacquainting
myself with the 7 chapters I had previously written of Third Time's The Charm. I
even managed to write a little.
>
> I pasted in a little below.
>
> -Kirsten
>
> ************************************************************************
>
> Chapter Eight
>
> Disclaimer:  I do not own any of the characters of Buffy the Vampire Slayer,
Angel, or Charmed.
>
> Summary:
>
> Chapter Eight
>
> Part One
>
> Angel looked Giles carefully in the eye. He knew that Giles needed to know
what he knew, or what he believed to be true. But he wasn't sure how to begin.
And what good would come of knowing? After all, there was not much to be done.
It would be safer to just lock yourself in a bomb shelter until it was over -
from what he knew of the process.
>
> "Well?" Giles repeated. This silence of Angel's was really starting to disturb
him. Not that the vampire was normally extremely chatty, but there was something
foreboding about his attitude. Not just that he wouldn't like was he going to be
told - no, it would be much, much worse he was sure.
>
> Angel tried to give Giles a comforting look - but all he managed to do, it
seemed, was alarm the Watcher even more. He chuckled quietly and took a deep
(and unnecessary) breath to begin. "Perhaps I should start with the demon. About
his origin. Do you have any idea of what sort of demon he is?"
>
> About bloody time, Giles thought to himself.
>

How honest do you want to be?  Poked at daily, weekly, spur of the moment?  I am
still in this group even if everyone else packed up and left.  I enjoy your
stories too much to leave even if you are on hiatus for a century or twelve.

I like Cole and Willow (I hated Cole and Phoebe after awhile.  She treated him
like something you would scrape off your shoe but she was "a Charmed One" and
therefore better than anyone.  But she caused most of their problems and he is
much better off without her and with Willow.)  I particularly like the
interactions with C/W X and A/B and naturally Giles.  I also was intrigued by
the interaction with Nick and LaCroix in Toronto. I wonder what LaCroix would
think of the rest of Angel and Buffy's family? I don't really care where you go,
I would just like some more of this AU.

D

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "zillagirl2002" <cillagirl84@...> wrote:
>
> Hi! I don't know if anyone is still in this group - I haven't been a very good
host.
>
> I have gotten more nice reviews for Willow in Thorns recently. It always
amazes me that people like that story so much. I loved writing it - and it was
my first. I think the main thing is how much I love the idea of Cole & Willow
together.
>
> I want to start writing again. And I hoped that some of you would try and keep
me honest. Please don't let me forget to work on this.
>
> I have a lot of stories that I haven't finished. I'm not sure which to work on
first. The prequel and the Xander's Secret story come to mind.
>
> Thanks,
> Kirsten
>

Well, I did accomplish something. I spent about 30 minutes reacquainting myself
with the 7 chapters I had previously written of Third Time's The Charm. I even
managed to write a little.

I pasted in a little below.

-Kirsten

************************************************************************

Chapter Eight

Disclaimer:  I do not own any of the characters of Buffy the Vampire Slayer,
Angel, or Charmed.

Summary:

Chapter Eight

Part One

Angel looked Giles carefully in the eye. He knew that Giles needed to know what
he knew, or what he believed to be true. But he wasn't sure how to begin. And
what good would come of knowing? After all, there was not much to be done. It
would be safer to just lock yourself in a bomb shelter until it was over - from
what he knew of the process.

"Well?" Giles repeated. This silence of Angel's was really starting to disturb
him. Not that the vampire was normally extremely chatty, but there was something
foreboding about his attitude. Not just that he wouldn't like was he going to be
told - no, it would be much, much worse he was sure.

Angel tried to give Giles a comforting look - but all he managed to do, it
seemed, was alarm the Watcher even more. He chuckled quietly and took a deep
(and unnecessary) breath to begin. "Perhaps I should start with the demon. About
his origin. Do you have any idea of what sort of demon he is?"

About bloody time, Giles thought to himself.

Hi! I don't know if anyone is still in this group - I haven't been a very good
host.

I have gotten more nice reviews for Willow in Thorns recently. It always amazes
me that people like that story so much. I loved writing it - and it was my
first. I think the main thing is how much I love the idea of Cole & Willow
together.

I want to start writing again. And I hoped that some of you would try and keep
me honest. Please don't let me forget to work on this.

I have a lot of stories that I haven't finished. I'm not sure which to work on
first. The prequel and the Xander's Secret story come to mind.

Thanks,
Kirsten

I'm working on my OWN little story for this universe! Its going to be a
major crossover, and only our estemmed owner knows WHAT its going to
be! I will say this about it: Be prepared for a MAJOR amount of
crossovers!

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To: willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com
From: cillagirl84@...
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:11:31 +0000
Subject: [willowinthorns] Re: Where is eveyone?

Oh, little Kieran. I originally just put him in for fun. I thought
maybe I'd do a story on that eventually. (Of course that was when I
was writing practically every day.)

I don't know why I'm so slow. Lately, I've been trying to get back to
Third Time's the Charm (and maybe The Passion of 3, too). Writing
about their falling in love seems to be so much harder than writing
about their lives as a family. ???? I wonder what that means?

Love hearing from you. People like you really inspire me. When I
wrote my first chapter of Willow in Thorns and then got my first
really lovely review, I was shocked. I had no idea it was any good at
all.

Thanks for all the support,
zillagirl
--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Ringe" <m.ringe@...>
wrote:
>
> I don't know about anyone else, but I am still here and more or
less
> (less) patiently waiting for you to find/make time for this
series.
> I am especially curious about Angel/Buffy's new "child" and just
what
> a darklighter in the family will mean for the group dynamics.
> Thanks for remembering us.
>
>
> --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Kirsten Crippen"
> <cillagirl84@> wrote:
> >
> > *reddens in shame*
> >
> > I know, I've been so inactive. I still think of Willow and Cole a
> lot.
> > It's just I've been having doing the actual writing.
> >
> > Sorry about everything. Hope to have a new chapter out soon.
> >
> > zillagirl
> >
> > --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Harry M VanHoudnos III"
> > <egad40@> wrote:
> > >
> > > *Blows dust off of group* Been awfully quiet here lately?
Anyone
> > > working on any new fics for the group or got any ideas to stir
> things
> > > up somewhat?
> > >
> >
>

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To: willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com
From: cillagirl84@...
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:44:33 +0000
Subject: [willowinthorns] Re: Where is eveyone?

*reddens in shame*

I know, I've been so inactive. I still think of Willow and Cole a lot.
It's just I've been having doing the actual writing.

Sorry about everything. Hope to have a new chapter out soon.

zillagirl

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Harry M VanHoudnos III"
<egad40@...> wrote:
>
> *Blows dust off of group* Been awfully quiet here lately? Anyone
> working on any new fics for the group or got any ideas to stir things
> up somewhat?
>

Well, then, let me reassure you that your writing is VERY good.  Well
above par and somewhat above even that.  You create believable
characters in a unique setting (yes, I know others have used a
similar universe but everyone has their own take on it and I like
yours) while keeping true to the characters we know from both the
BtVS/AtS and Charmed series.  I am a BIG Angel and anybody fan (I
always thought Joss really didn't know what to do with Angel
eventhough he created him - characters like Spike are soooo much
easier to write as they have so little complicated motivation) and
then when you add in the people from Forever Knight, well, I think
you have just about got everyone I love (although I am partial to
Daedalus from Kindred: the Embraced) all in one delicious package.
When I reach your tolerance for appreciative prose, let me know.

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Kirsten Crippen"
<cillagirl84@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, little Kieran. I originally just put him in for fun. I thought
> maybe I'd do a story on that eventually. (Of course that was when I
> was writing practically every day.)
>
> I don't know why I'm so slow. Lately, I've been trying to get back
to
> Third Time's the Charm (and maybe The Passion of 3, too). Writing
> about their falling in love seems to be so much harder than writing
> about their lives as a family. ???? I wonder what that means?
>
> Love hearing from you. People like you really inspire me. When I
> wrote my first chapter of Willow in Thorns and then got my first
> really lovely review, I was shocked. I had no idea it was any good
at
> all.
>
> Thanks for all the support,
> zillagirl
> --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Ringe" <m.ringe@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know about anyone else, but I am still here and more or
> less
> > (less) patiently waiting for you to find/make time for this
> series.
> > I am especially curious about Angel/Buffy's new "child" and just
> what
> > a darklighter in the family will mean for the group dynamics.
> > Thanks for remembering us.
> >
> >
> > --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Kirsten Crippen"
> > <cillagirl84@> wrote:
> > >
> > > *reddens in shame*
> > >
> > > I know, I've been so inactive. I still think of Willow and Cole
a
> > lot.
> > > It's just I've been having doing the actual writing.
> > >
> > > Sorry about everything. Hope to have a new chapter out soon.
> > >
> > > zillagirl
> > >
> > > --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Harry M VanHoudnos III"
> > > <egad40@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > *Blows dust off of group* Been awfully quiet here lately?
> Anyone
> > > > working on any new fics for the group or got any ideas to
stir
> > things
> > > > up somewhat?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Oh, little Kieran. I originally just put him in for fun. I thought
maybe I'd do a story on that eventually. (Of course that was when I
was writing practically every day.)

I don't know why I'm so slow. Lately, I've been trying to get back to
Third Time's the Charm (and maybe The Passion of 3, too). Writing
about their falling in love seems to be so much harder than writing
about their lives as a family. ???? I wonder what that means?

Love hearing from you. People like you really inspire me. When I
wrote my first chapter of Willow in Thorns and then got my first
really lovely review, I was shocked. I had no idea it was any good at
all.

Thanks for all the support,
zillagirl
--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Ringe" <m.ringe@...>
wrote:
>
> I don't know about anyone else, but I am still here and more or
less
> (less) patiently waiting for you to find/make time for this
series.
> I am especially curious about Angel/Buffy's new "child" and just
what
> a darklighter in the family will mean for the group dynamics.
> Thanks for remembering us.
>
>
> --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Kirsten Crippen"
> <cillagirl84@> wrote:
> >
> > *reddens in shame*
> >
> > I know, I've been so inactive. I still think of Willow and Cole a
> lot.
> > It's just I've been having doing the actual writing.
> >
> > Sorry about everything. Hope to have a new chapter out soon.
> >
> > zillagirl
> >
> > --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Harry M VanHoudnos III"
> > <egad40@> wrote:
> > >
> > > *Blows dust off of group* Been awfully quiet here lately?
Anyone
> > > working on any new fics for the group or got any ideas to stir
> things
> > > up somewhat?
> > >
> >
>

I don't know about anyone else, but I am still here and more or less
(less) patiently waiting for you to find/make time for this series.
I am especially curious about Angel/Buffy's new "child" and just what
a darklighter in the family will mean for the group dynamics.
Thanks for remembering us.


--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Kirsten Crippen"
<cillagirl84@...> wrote:
>
> *reddens in shame*
>
> I know, I've been so inactive. I still think of Willow and Cole a
lot.
> It's just I've been having doing the actual writing.
>
> Sorry about everything. Hope to have a new chapter out soon.
>
> zillagirl
>
> --- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Harry M VanHoudnos III"
> <egad40@> wrote:
> >
> > *Blows dust off of group* Been awfully quiet here lately? Anyone
> > working on any new fics for the group or got any ideas to stir
things
> > up somewhat?
> >
>

*reddens in shame*

I know, I've been so inactive. I still think of Willow and Cole a lot.
It's just I've been having doing the actual writing.

Sorry about everything. Hope to have a new chapter out soon.

zillagirl

--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Harry M VanHoudnos III"
<egad40@...> wrote:
>
> *Blows dust off of group* Been awfully quiet here lately? Anyone
> working on any new fics for the group or got any ideas to stir things
> up somewhat?
>

*Blows dust off of group* Been awfully quiet here lately? Anyone
working on any new fics for the group or got any ideas to stir things
up somewhat?

*Raises cold Diet A&W Root beer* Congrats on the nominations! I hope,
that you will win with one of them.--- In
willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com, "Kirsten Crippen" <cillagirl84@...>
wrote:
>
> Happy Holidays everybody!! I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday
> season. As one of my New Year's Resolutions, I am going to try and
post
> something at least once or twice a month. I hope that you all would
try
> and help keep me honest.
>
> I check my e-mail several times a day, even if I neglect to log on
to
> my IM.
>
> In other news, two of my Cole/Willow stories have been nominated
for an
> award at Twisting the Hellmouth: Passion of 3 and What Was She
Thinking?
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Kirsten
> aka zillagirl
>

Read the new material. Very nice! I think though, that Giles needs to
keep his cool if he is going to get anywhere in explaining things to
Natalie.--- In willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com,
willowinthorns@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
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