To any and all of you guys who are still hangin' around, hope you are
enjoying the season and that the upcoming new year is good to you.



Bill K



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 Yes Portia,
What a superb comment on the essential role of the sidekick. I see things in a
different light now.
 I've just got to decide if my dog is my sidekick or if I am hers !!
Gauntlet


      .....................  BATTLE ON ! .........................
 
                             




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Hi Everyone,

Today, Ed McMahon died and the LA Times did a story about him and how he was the
quintessential sidekick--getting no glory next to Johnny Carson for so many
years.? Here is a bit (that reminds me so much of Gabrielle) from the article
that can be found at:
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-et-ed-mcmahon24-2009jun24,0,2998712.st\
ory

"It's easy to underestimate his accomplishment -- or even to wonder whether it
should be called an accomplishment at all. We live in a nation of aspiring
quarterbacks, pitchers, lead singers and presidents, where we are told to dream
big and have it all. (The vice presidency of the United States is regarded as a
rarefied form of failure.) But in a world where everyone is innately a star,
what does it mean to settle for life as a mere moon?

And yet, just as the moon plays upon the Earth, animating its tides and its
werewolves, the sidekick is not without power of his (or her) own. His very
presence is the proof that his presence is required. He may come as a straight
man, a stooge, a teacher, an apprentice, a servant or pal, but he completes the
star-hero in some way to their mutual advantage -- as a counterweight, an
anchor, a witness, a frame for the picture, a setting for the stone. Like Jiminy
Cricket, a conscience."

Portia

BATTLE ON, XENA and GABRIELLE!


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Good to hear what the Xena cast are up to. I saw her in Manchester a few years
ago and she was modest and happy then.


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Yes Star Trek is awesome, I loved it and want to see it again.

Norma



--- In whoosh@yahoogroups.com, PortiaOnly@... wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I saw Star Trek this weekend.? It was great.? It was written by Alex Kurtzman
and Roberto Orci, the two men who produced season 5 of Xena.? They have redeemed
themselves in my eyes.? Star Trek was so, so good.
>
> As I was watching, the man playing Dr. Leonard (Bones) McCoy looked awfully
familiar, but I couldn't place the face for a good long while.? I kept picturing
Lucy Lawless's fingers touching his face, but couldn't pull anything else up.?
Finally, it hit me, the guy playing Bones--"I'm a doctor, Jim!" was none other
than Karl?"some enemies are. . . harder. . . than others" (Caesar?says to Xena
in the episode, Destiny)" Urban.??
>
> Every character I've seen Urban play has been good.? He really becomes that
person and you lose sight of the actor behind the performance.
>
> I highly recommend the movie.? You don't really have to be a Trekker to enjoy
it.?
>
> Portia
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Met Adrienne Wilkinson last saturday at a collectible show. She's so sweet and
has a great sense of humor. She was signing autographs for a few hours. I got
pix and video with her. Just wanted to share them with u all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbLhcnhEs4M

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=5\
636503&albumId=2610190

Battle on,
Norma

Hi Portia,



Haven't seen the new Trek yet, but have read the reviews and such, and
remembered Orci and Kurtzman had written some XWP episodes, and knew about
Karl Urban playing "Bones". I was wondering if any of you guys had noticed
the "Xena connection" when your post popped up on my screen. Wouldn't it be
nice if they signed up LL for the sequel, she'd make a great Romulan or
Klingon commander wouldn't she?



Bill K



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Hi Everyone,

I saw Star Trek this weekend.? It was great.? It was written by Alex Kurtzman
and Roberto Orci, the two men who produced season 5 of Xena.? They have redeemed
themselves in my eyes.? Star Trek was so, so good.

As I was watching, the man playing Dr. Leonard (Bones) McCoy looked awfully
familiar, but I couldn't place the face for a good long while.? I kept picturing
Lucy Lawless's fingers touching his face, but couldn't pull anything else up.?
Finally, it hit me, the guy playing Bones--"I'm a doctor, Jim!" was none other
than Karl?"some enemies are. . . harder. . . than others" (Caesar?says to Xena
in the episode, Destiny)" Urban.??

Every character I've seen Urban play has been good.? He really becomes that
person and you lose sight of the actor behind the performance.

I highly recommend the movie.? You don't really have to be a Trekker to enjoy
it.?

Portia


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BSG is actually one of my favourite series too. I have all the DVDs, and I am
waiting for season 4.5 and to see the end.
I love this series because it was very well done in every sense. The acing is
superb, and the subjects treated in it are very actual and true, even if it is a
Scifi series.
Lucy is been great as D'Anna. I love her charachter.
I also like Roslin, Starbuck, Number six and Sharon Valerii.
Barbara

--- In whoosh@yahoogroups.com, nanite9925@... wrote:
>
> HI Everyone,
>
>
> It has been a long time since I posted to this message board.  I too,  love
> BSG.  The old series, the mini-series, and the new series that lasted  for
> quite a long time.  It was a series that was very well done.  I  loved the way
it
> was shot, like as if the viewer were right there in the room  with the
> characters.  That's the way it felt to me anyway.  Everything  about that
series was
> a commentary on what is going on right here on earth right  now.  Ronald D.
> Moore who worked on the series also worked for Gene  Roddenberry on Star Trek
> TNG, and later on ST: DS9 and ST: Voyager.
>
>
> The concept of bringing real world issues into BSG I believe stemmed from
> his days of working on the Star Trek series.   I loved BSG and would like  to
> see see it all from beginning to end.  My favorite characters I loved to 
hate:
> Gais Baltar, John Caval (cylon), Deanna Beers (cylon #3 played by our  Lucy)
> and a few others.  My favorites: Lee Adama, Kara Thrace, Sharon  Valeri (cylon
> turned to loyal Colonial member and mother of Hera).  I have  a lot of others,
> but not enough time to list them all.
>
>
> Take care everyone.
>
>
> Debbie Appleby
>
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>
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>

Thanks very much for your response Bill!

The poem of yours we're both referring to, was such a delight, it's one of the
very few posts I've actually saved for "all time".

The BSG miniseries is actually something that would be very hard to omit at this
time, since by rights it's part of, or at least mentioned with, every available
dvd set I've seen, but since it's such an organic <g> part of the series, I felt
I should remind you of it anyhow.

You'll be fine I'm sure, sticking with coffee; unfortunately, I too find age
starting to make its presence known. It's just that I do like a good beer when
watching a good film or TV episode, meaning something other than an ice cool
lager!

Cheers,

- George -


(I've been sticking to the old Yahoo mail but since my last post came out quite
jumbled - at least to me it did - I have now switched to the
not-so-new-one-anymore.)



________________________________
From: Bill Kisselstein <bkisselstein@...>
To: Whoosh@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:10:36 PM
Subject: [Whoosh!] Battlestar Gallactaca


George and CR,

Good to hear from both of you. Wasn't that long ago CR, that you assisted as
"tour guide" for Warren and I on our NZ  trip, and without you we would
still be trying to find that waterfalls. And George, the advice of a man
with such obvious good taste in poetry is always to be valued.

Do appreciate the heads up on the mini series, that might have slipped under
my radar, and I'd have been busting Jeannine's fishsticks when I couldn't
make head or tail out of what was going on in season 1. I looked at prices
on Amazon, and found season 1, complete with mini series for about $23.00,
which is pretty reasonable. After that you have to be a little careful, as
the seasons are split into 2 parts, so they are about twice as expensive.
There's no big rush here, as we are still in season 1 of "Deadwood", and
have a multitude of four letter words to look forward to before concluding
that series.

And by the way George, think we will stick with coffee over beer, a
concession to old age, need something to keep us awake you know.

Bill








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HI Everyone,


It has been a long time since I posted to this message board.  I too,  love
BSG.  The old series, the mini-series, and the new series that lasted  for
quite a long time.  It was a series that was very well done.  I  loved the way
it
was shot, like as if the viewer were right there in the room  with the
characters.  That's the way it felt to me anyway.  Everything  about that series
was
a commentary on what is going on right here on earth right  now.  Ronald D.
Moore who worked on the series also worked for Gene  Roddenberry on Star Trek
TNG, and later on ST: DS9 and ST: Voyager.


The concept of bringing real world issues into BSG I believe stemmed from
his days of working on the Star Trek series.   I loved BSG and would like  to
see see it all from beginning to end.  My favorite characters I loved to  hate:
Gais Baltar, John Caval (cylon), Deanna Beers (cylon #3 played by our  Lucy)
and a few others.  My favorites: Lee Adama, Kara Thrace, Sharon  Valeri (cylon
turned to loyal Colonial member and mother of Hera).  I have  a lot of others,
but not enough time to list them all.


Take care everyone.


Debbie Appleby

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George and CR,



Good to hear from both of you. Wasn't that long ago CR, that you assisted as
"tour guide" for Warren and I on our NZ  trip, and without you we would
still be trying to find that waterfalls. And George, the advice of a man
with such obvious good taste in poetry is always to be valued.



Do appreciate the heads up on the mini series, that might have slipped under
my radar, and I'd have been busting Jeannine's fishsticks when I couldn't
make head or tail out of what was going on in season 1. I looked at prices
on Amazon, and found season 1, complete with mini series for about $23.00,
which is pretty reasonable. After that you have to be a little careful, as
the seasons are split into 2 parts, so they are about twice as expensive.
There's no big rush here, as we are still in season 1 of "Deadwood", and
have a multitude of four letter words to look forward to before concluding
that series.



And by the way George, think we will stick with coffee over beer, a
concession to old age, need something to keep us awake you know.



Bill



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On Tuesday 07 April 2009 05:10:20 Bill Kisselstein wrote:
> Jeannine,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your comments on BSG. Although I have kind of followed the show
> on line and in the media, I have still avoided actually watching it as I am
> convinced that, due to the complexity and intensity it would really be
> better to start at the beginning instead of jumping in for the last season.
> Saw the usual comments on Gateworld."Loved the ending!"."Hated the
> ending!", so thought I would get your take. I get together with a friend of
> mine about once a week for coffee and to look at DVD's, sometimes a movie,
> sometimes we take a series and work our way from beginning to end,
> currently doing "Deadwood", and I'm thinking BSG would be a good one for us
> to tackle one of these days as neither of us has seen it, so after a while,
> when the prices come down might grab season 1 and see how it goes, so that
> was one reason why I was wondering how you liked the concluding season.
> Glad to hear that you enjoyed it, and that you have found "life after Xena"
> :-).
>
>
>
> Bill

BSG series actually seem to be quite reasonably priced (at least here in NZ,
and I'm assuming our price trends reflect US ones).    And early series
should be quite cheap by now, seeing as they're 4 years old.

As another poster said, do start with the mini-series.   (You could call it
Season 0, I guess).

cr

 On Mon, 4/6/09, Bill Kisselstein <bkisselstein@...> wrote:

For the life of me, I don't know how I managed to send the post without:

- George -





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 On Mon, 4/6/09, Bill Kisselstein <bkisselstein@...> wrote:






  Jeannine,



Thanks for your comments on BSG. Although I have kind of followed the show

on line and in the media, I have still avoided actually watching it as I am

convinced that, due to the complexity and intensity it would really be

better to start at the beginning instead of jumping in for the last season.

Saw the usual comments on Gateworld."Loved the ending!"."Hated the ending!",

so thought I would get your take. I get together with a friend of mine about

once a week for coffee and to look at DVD's, sometimes a movie, sometimes we

take a series and work our way from beginning to end, currently doing

"Deadwood", and I'm thinking BSG would be a good one for us to tackle one of

these days as neither of us has seen it, so after a while, when the prices

come down might grab season 1 and see how it goes, so that was one reason

why I was wondering how you liked the concluding season. Glad to hear that

you enjoyed it, and that you have found "life after Xena" :-).



BillHi Bill,It's been a long while since you posted a Xmas poem re XWP! It was
in 2002 I think :)If you're going to view Battlestar Galactica - and doing so
with a friend is a very good idea -  you will get immediately lost, starting
from season one :) Because there's this miniseries that really got the thing off
the ground, and if you do mean what you say, i.e. just reading about the series,
you wouldn't have a
clue.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_(TV_miniseries)

You're quite right regarding the complexity and intensity. BSG has all of that,
and I feel you might like to grab a beer or two, instead of the coffee. But
that's merely me.

Still, without having seen the miniseries, you'd probably drop the thing and I
assure you, that would be a shame!

Cheers

-
























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Jeannine,



Thanks for your comments on BSG. Although I have kind of followed the show
on line and in the media, I have still avoided actually watching it as I am
convinced that, due to the complexity and intensity it would really be
better to start at the beginning instead of jumping in for the last season.
Saw the usual comments on Gateworld."Loved the ending!"."Hated the ending!",
so thought I would get your take. I get together with a friend of mine about
once a week for coffee and to look at DVD's, sometimes a movie, sometimes we
take a series and work our way from beginning to end, currently doing
"Deadwood", and I'm thinking BSG would be a good one for us to tackle one of
these days as neither of us has seen it, so after a while, when the prices
come down might grab season 1 and see how it goes, so that was one reason
why I was wondering how you liked the concluding season. Glad to hear that
you enjoyed it, and that you have found "life after Xena" :-).



Bill



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Hi Bill,

Never got on any lists for BSG, I actually have a life after Xena which is
hard to believe. :-)

BSG from start to finish was the best scifi on TV for my dollar, and it  will
be a long time before something of this quality of production and writing
comes around this way again.

I thought the ending was great, it tied everything up into a perpetual
mythical loop so you can enjoy it over and over again.  It made me think  for
hours
afterwards about how it ended.  Much like The Shield did, if you  watch that
series to it's end.

I was most happy to find that Starbuck really did die in season 3, and was
an angle this whole last season (though she didn't know it till the end).   It
makes her choice of a tattoo all that more meaningful in season 2.

I never thought I would say this after Xena, but I might actually buy this
whole show and keep it for future viewing.

How about you?  Did you like BSG?

Jeannine


In a message dated 3/30/2009 9:42:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bkisselstein@... writes:




So Jeannine, I know you have been a big fan of this show, was wondering  if
the final season maintained the same quality as the preceding ones for  you,
and did the Grand Finale live up to your expectations? (Grand Finales  can
sometimes be disappointing, not pointing any fishsticks. I mean  fingers, at
anyone here mind you). I've read some pro and con comments at  places like
Gateworld, wondered what you thoughts were.

Bill  K

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So Jeannine, I know you have been a big fan of this show, was wondering if
the final season maintained the same quality as the preceding ones for you,
and did the Grand Finale live up to your expectations?  (Grand Finales can
sometimes be disappointing, not pointing any fishsticks. I mean fingers, at
anyone here mind you). I've read some pro and con comments at places like
Gateworld,  wondered what you thoughts were.



Bill K







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Lucy was on the HBO show, "Flight of the Conchords" episode "New Zealand
Town", but it was shown on its first run last Sunday-it is rerunning this
afternoon in some markets though. It is also available On Demand at HBO.

The show is about two Kiwi boys trying to make it in the music industry in
New York. They have a manager, Murray, whose day job is being New
Zealand's Cultural Attache at the New Zealand Consulate. And they have one
fan, a woman named Mel.

I LOVE this show. But I seldom get to see it since I don't have cable. It
is SO quirky. And so dead pan. And so funny. It's an enormous hit for
HBO-I pant with lust waiting for it to be released on DVD so I can see all
the eps.

I didn’t get to see it again last Sunday but I did see the clips from it
on Mary D’s excellent site.

And I'm putting in Spoiler space

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The full meaning of the title, “New Zealand Town” didn't strike me until I
saw those clips and realized that they were trying to set up a new New
York neighborhood-like Chinatown, Germantown and Little Italy. THAT'S a
hilarious concept to me. It's not like we've got masses of En Zedders
immigrating into NY and living in little self-imposed ghettos of like
lineaged individuals.

Lucy's character is a Kiwi who is now working for the New Zealand Prime
Minister, or she could just be working at the consulate-could be either,
not clear from the clips.

I really enjoyed Lucy’s take on the character-she played a chipper,
earnest, kind of down home girl made good but still retaining her small
town outlook. Her voice, expressions and gestures had a home-spun
cheeriness and optimism about them. This is probably one of the least
sophisticated characters Lucy’s ever created.

I also liked the way she played a woman who growing up wasn't all that
interested in the boy next door who was obviously very interested in
her-and now he's the Prime Minister of her country and she's working for
him. Deft fending off of his sorrowful/resentful reminders of their
checkered past while still maintaining that sunny New Zealand girl next
door charm. I LIKE this character-I'd like to see her become a recurring
character in this hilarious comedy. (But then, when DON'T I want Lucy to
become a recurring character?)

I love how this show always "takes the mickey" out of themselves. One of
the best laughs for me in the clips was the sheep wandering down the
streets of New York at the end. Talk about cashing in on a stereotype!

I find Murray hilarious-he’s my favorite character. Or let us say now, WAS
my favorite character before Luce signed on. In some persnickety ways, he
is the most straight arrowed person on there-while being in my opinion,
the most fully rounded character on the show. He’s the character who
displays a weird mix of pathos and bathos-and the actor does it
brilliantly.

I’m so glad Lucy has added this show to her resume.

KT

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>
Hey Bill!

  KT,
>
> Happy 50tth from Upstate New York, where it seldom hits 50 below, but we
> are
> closing in on 80" of snowfall for the season already,


Good gods!

  and the occasional
> Moose wanders free. We can't see Russia from our front porch, but we can
> see
> New Jersey, which is almost as good.
>


Laugh. Between Sarah the ill-prepared and Uncle Ted the felon, there were
MANY times this election season when I wished Alaska would just get OFF
the main stage. Lord!


>
>
> I will take your word for it regarding "Bedtime Stories" - just plain flat
> don't go to movies any more, too expensive for me..


It is a pretty penny to go to the show today. I would say this isn't a
film you have to see on the big screen-renting the DVD would be fine I
think. It's not like Jackson's King Kong (or indeed, the original one)
which are so WAY better on a big screen. Not being into blockbusters,
there's not many films today I feel I have to see in a theater. But as I
said, I made an exception for Lucy. I didn't go back again however, unlike
Momma Mia which I paid to see three times, with various girlfriends and
once with my honey also in tow.


well, when they get
> around to making "The Return of Xena" starring you-know-who I will make an
> exception (hold the $8.00 Popcorn).
>

Welllll, THAT goes without saying.

Nice to hear from you!

KT


>
>
> Bill K
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: whoosh@yahoogroups.com [mailto:whoosh@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> KTL
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:00 AM
> To: whoosh@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Whoosh!] Totally OT: Happy 50th Birthday State of Alaska
>
>
>
> Totally OT but just wanted to share. . .
>
> Here in the Alaskan Interior, it's below 50 below today-but I'm not sure
> how much below-our thermometer only goes to 50 below and its stuck right
> at that mark. According to NOAA, it's 51 below at the airport, about 4
> miles away.
>
> And what a choice temperature for us today, the 50th anniversary of Alaska
> being admitted to the union! (Of course, it's only in the Interior of the
> state that it's this cold-Anchorage is a mere 15 below and Juneau is 19
> above. Weinies.)
>
> Fairbanks was going to have outdoor fireworks on the university campus but
> my honey and I forgot about it and didn't go. They MAY have canceled
> it-but they didn't cancel the New Year's Eve outdoor fireworks and it was
> high 40 something below that night too. So I wouldn't be too surprised to
> hear that it went on as planned.
>
> Anyway, happy anniversary to us, fireworks or not! Yahooooo!
>
> KT
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

KT,

Happy 50tth from Upstate New York, where it seldom hits 50 below, but we are
closing in on 80" of snowfall for the season already, and the occasional
Moose wanders free. We can't see Russia from our front porch, but we can see
New Jersey, which is almost as good.



I will take your word for it regarding "Bedtime Stories" - just plain flat
don't go to movies any more, too expensive for me..well, when they get
around to making "The Return of Xena" starring you-know-who I will make an
exception (hold the $8.00 Popcorn).



Bill K







   _____

From: whoosh@yahoogroups.com [mailto:whoosh@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
KTL
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:00 AM
To: whoosh@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Whoosh!] Totally OT: Happy 50th Birthday State of Alaska



Totally OT but just wanted to share. . .

Here in the Alaskan Interior, it's below 50 below today-but I'm not sure
how much below-our thermometer only goes to 50 below and its stuck right
at that mark. According to NOAA, it's 51 below at the airport, about 4
miles away.

And what a choice temperature for us today, the 50th anniversary of Alaska
being admitted to the union! (Of course, it's only in the Interior of the
state that it's this cold-Anchorage is a mere 15 below and Juneau is 19
above. Weinies.)

Fairbanks was going to have outdoor fireworks on the university campus but
my honey and I forgot about it and didn't go. They MAY have canceled
it-but they didn't cancel the New Year's Eve outdoor fireworks and it was
high 40 something below that night too. So I wouldn't be too surprised to
hear that it went on as planned.

Anyway, happy anniversary to us, fireworks or not! Yahooooo!

KT





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Totally OT but just wanted to share. . .

Here in the Alaskan Interior, it's below 50 below today-but I'm not sure
how much below-our thermometer only goes to 50 below and its stuck right
at that mark. According to NOAA, it's 51 below at the airport, about 4
miles away.

And what a choice temperature for us today, the 50th anniversary of Alaska
being admitted to the union! (Of course, it's only in the Interior of the
state that it's this cold-Anchorage is a mere 15 below and Juneau is 19
above. Weinies.)

Fairbanks was going to have outdoor fireworks on the university campus but
my honey and I forgot about it and didn't go. They MAY have canceled
it-but they didn't cancel the New Year's Eve outdoor fireworks and it was
high 40 something below that night too. So I wouldn't be too surprised to
hear that it went on as planned.

Anyway, happy anniversary to us, fireworks or not! Yahooooo!

KT

>
>  Ah, KT, thanks for that.?


Did you MEAN to put that question mark in or is that just my browser? Grin.


As always, reading any review from you is like
> actually being there.
>

Thank you-could you smell the popcorn?


> I wasn't going to see the movie, but now I will.?


Well you know, I didn't feel like I wasted my money. And that was a
possibility. If Lucy's part was WAY short or if she hadn't been so
"outstanding in her field of acting even when she's 2 inches tall and way
in the background among the rest of the crowd" I would be suggesting that
folks wait to rent the DVD. But for me at least, it was worth $7.50 to
finally see Luce on the big screen.


  You should get a cut
> from Sandler for promoting the film!
>


Write and tell him that!

> Thanks for the review,
>
>
> Portia
>

You're welcome. And as always, it's a real pleasure to hear from you.

KT

Ah, KT, thanks for that.? As always, reading any review from you is like
actually being there.

I wasn't going to see the movie, but now I will.? You should get a cut from
Sandler for promoting the film!

Thanks for the review,


Portia







-----Original Message-----
From: KTL <fsktl@...>
To: whoosh@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 3:05 am
Subject: [Whoosh!] Bedtime stories review

























I remember when it was first announced that Lucy was going to be in an

Adam Sandler movie and some of us had reactions ranging from mild dismay

to horrified screaming high angst. Good news: it wasn't near as bad as I

thought it might be.



I haven't seen any reviews on it here, so I thought I'd hop in with one.



No real spoilers but a few details about some things so read at your own

risk.



We trundled off to the movie theater the day after Christmas. I went

with quite a bit of trepidation-as I've said before, I was horribly

traumatized by an Adam Sandler movie years ago. I was visiting my sister's

house and my young barely teen at the time nephew was totally in love with

"Happy Gilmore" and watched it night and day, as it endlessly regurgitated

on HBO. It was absolutely horrifying and I was indelibly warped forever,

dead set in total Sandleravoidance mode.



BUT Lucy's in it and I have never seen her on the big screen, and my

friend Cheryl advocated for it, so I gritted my teeth and went.



And was very glad I did. I laughed out loud at some of that movie-THAT

was totally unexpected. It's very funny at times.



Of course, for most of us fans, Lucy wasn't used enough. But she did a

fine job in her role-as she said, she looked on her character as a Disney

villainess and she was pitch perfect in catching their typical

unending malevolence and sheer joy in being mean to anything that

crawls into their view. She didn't have a lot of lines, but she never

stopped acting, no matter how far from the camera she was. And she has

such an expressive face that you know just what she's thinking as she

glares at people or when she receives satisfaction when they get in

trouble. Very nice job.



One of the joys of the movie was watching for her in the story

sequences. She's in most if not all of them at some point. And she's

usually just barely human-in terms of this is a fantasy story where

the divisions between humans and animals get blurred, and non-human

body parts are part of the make-up. There was one moment early on in a

long shot where Sandler's talking and I suddenly realized that a

creature near him was probably Luce. The camera chose that moment to

cut, but when they swung back to the same shot, in the split

nano-second that she was on screen again, I was convinced it was

her-there was something in the way she was moving that confirmed this

for me. While it was pure Lucy, it was also appropriate for the

persona she was made up as-if such a human/animal mix existed,

they'd move exactly that way if they were pissed off. So I was sure it

was her and was talking silently to myself, mentally affirming, "That IS

Lucy!" just as my sister-in-law hissed out, "Is that Lucy as that (leaving

this last noun blank to not spoil anyone)?" And I laughed and whispered

back, "Yup".



But while I went to the movie for Lucy, I enjoyed some of the other

actors very much. I thought that the kids did a great job-they're

really portrayed as kids, not like the more common slimy, mean,

smart-mouthed brats that are all over TV and in some movies.



Kerie Russell was good. Courtney Cox was good. I enjoyed their time on

screen. And both of their characters had little emotional development

arcs that they handled very well. And of course, it's always a

pleasure to see so many female characters in a movie.



But one HUGE pleasure (and the source of most of my laugh out loud

moments) was Russell Brand. He was hilarious. He totally captured my

attention whenever he was onscreen. He found a real human being in the

character he played.



He was child-like and yet sometimes wise. And did some unexpected

things with kind of unusual reactions that were way funny. Whenever he

appeared onscreen, I looked forward to seeing what he'd do this time.

He read his comic lines with real wit and also did well with the

slapstick bits. I really, REALLY enjoyed him. And I noticed that he

got the lion's share of the laughs from the audience.



AND I think he's hot. Even his normal hairdo doesn't dampen that

reaction from me. Hoooo!



The only actor I wasn't terribly impressed with was Guy Pierce. I've

never seen him in anything before but he was-I'm not sure what. He was

way more one-dimensional in a not this is just a farce piece way than any

of the other characters. It was like he couldn't quite find anything

at all in the character that made him seem human-there was no

awareness or vulnerability there, he had no fears, no emotional

connection, no engagement with other people. And without that, it's

not a pleasure to watch a character. It's hard to care about what he's

up to. I guessssss, yeah, it was that he didn't go into the character

at all to me.



Oh and Sandler wasn't that bad at all. I do remember laughing once at

him, when we first saw the guinea pig-it appears on screen with him

and it was unexpected and not where you might think it might be and it

made me laugh.



And my greatest fear wasn't realized. The movie wasn't the usual

disgusting SNL alumni gross out. While there was a scene featuring

huge animated malevolent snot, nothing even approached the drinking sh*t

scene in one Mike Myers movie-the first movie I ever walked out of the

theater on. (It was SO not my idea to go see it in the first place.)



The theater was filled with little kids and their

folks/family/babysitters. The kids were pretty well behaved-there wasn't a

lot of yakking or running around the theater, so I'm thinking they liked

it. The oddest but kind of heart warming thing was that at the end of the

movie, some of the audience applauded. I haven't heard audiences applaud a

movie in years. Or course, that could have been coerced attendant adults

happy that it had come to the end-but I don't think so.



Happy New Year everybody.



KT




















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i quite agree with your review...i can't stand adam sandler and hated the last
one ''zohar' or something like that...i only went to this cause of lucy...and
she did a fine job!
x


 

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I remember when it was first announced that Lucy was going to be in an
Adam Sandler movie and some of us had reactions ranging from mild dismay
to horrified screaming high angst. Good news: it wasn't near as bad as I
thought it might be.

I haven't seen any reviews on it here, so I thought I'd hop in with one.

No real spoilers but a few details about some things so read at your own
risk.

We trundled off to the movie theater the day after Christmas. I went
with quite a bit of trepidation- as I've said before, I was horribly
traumatized by an Adam Sandler movie years ago. I was visiting my sister's
house and my young barely teen at the time nephew was totally in love with
"Happy Gilmore" and watched it night and day, as it endlessly regurgitated
on HBO. It was absolutely horrifying and I was indelibly warped forever,
dead set in total Sandleravoidance mode.

BUT Lucy's in it and I have never seen her on the big screen, and my
friend Cheryl advocated for it, so I gritted my teeth and went.

And was very glad I did. I laughed out loud at some of that movie-THAT
was totally unexpected. It's very funny at times.

Of course, for most of us fans, Lucy wasn't used enough. But she did a
fine job in her role-as she said, she looked on her character as a Disney
villainess and she was pitch perfect in catching their typical
unending malevolence and sheer joy in being mean to anything that
crawls into their view. She didn't have a lot of lines, but she never
stopped acting, no matter how far from the camera she was. And she has
such an expressive face that you know just what she's thinking as she
glares at people or when she receives satisfaction when they get in
trouble. Very nice job.

One of the joys of the movie was watching for her in the story
sequences. She's in most if not all of them at some point. And she's
usually just barely human-in terms of this is a fantasy story where
the divisions between humans and animals get blurred, and non-human
body parts are part of the make-up. There was one moment early on in a
long shot where Sandler's talking and I suddenly realized that a
creature near him was probably Luce. The camera chose that moment to
cut, but when they swung back to the same shot, in the split
nano-second that she was on screen again, I was convinced it was
her-there was something in the way she was moving that confirmed this
for me. While it was pure Lucy, it was also appropriate for the
persona she was made up as-if such a human/animal mix existed,
they'd move exactly that way if they were pissed off. So I was sure it
was her and was talking silently to myself, mentally affirming, "That IS
Lucy!" just as my sister-in-law hissed out, "Is that Lucy as that (leaving
this last noun blank to not spoil anyone)?" And I laughed and whispered
back, "Yup".

But while I went to the movie for Lucy, I enjoyed some of the other
actors very much. I thought that the kids did a great job-they're
really portrayed as kids, not like the more common slimy, mean,
smart-mouthed brats that are all over TV and in some movies.

Kerie Russell was good. Courtney Cox was good. I enjoyed their time on
screen. And both of their characters had little emotional development
arcs that they handled very well. And of course, it's always a
pleasure to see so many female characters in a movie.

But one HUGE pleasure (and the source of most of my laugh out loud
moments) was Russell Brand. He was hilarious. He totally captured my
attention whenever he was onscreen. He found a real human being in the
character he played.

He was child-like and yet sometimes wise. And did some unexpected
things with kind of unusual reactions that were way funny. Whenever he
appeared onscreen, I looked forward to seeing what he'd do this time.
He read his comic lines with real wit and also did well with the
slapstick bits. I really, REALLY enjoyed him. And I noticed that he
got the lion's share of the laughs from the audience.

AND I think he's hot. Even his normal hairdo doesn't dampen that
reaction from me. Hoooo!

The only actor I wasn't terribly impressed with was Guy Pierce. I've
never seen him in anything before but he was-I'm not sure what. He was
way more one-dimensional in a not this is just a farce piece way than any
of the other characters. It was like he couldn't quite find anything
at all in the character that made him seem human-there was no
awareness or vulnerability there, he had no fears, no emotional
connection, no engagement with other people. And without that, it's
not a pleasure to watch a character. It's hard to care about what he's
up to. I guessssss, yeah, it was that he didn't go into the character
at all to me.

Oh and Sandler wasn't that bad at all. I do remember laughing once at
him, when we first saw the guinea pig-it appears on screen with him
and it was unexpected and not where you might think it might be and it
made me laugh.

And my greatest fear wasn't realized. The movie wasn't the usual
disgusting SNL alumni gross out. While there was a scene featuring
huge animated malevolent snot, nothing even approached the drinking sh*t
scene in one Mike Myers movie-the first movie I ever walked out of the
theater on. (It was SO not my idea to go see it in the first place.)

The theater was filled with little kids and their
folks/family/ babysitters. The kids were pretty well behaved-there wasn't a
lot of yakking or running around the theater, so I'm thinking they liked
it. The oddest but kind of heart warming thing was that at the end of the
movie, some of the audience applauded. I haven't heard audiences applaud a
movie in years. Or course, that could have been coerced attendant adults
happy that it had come to the end-but I don't think so.

Happy New Year everybody.

KT



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I remember when it was first announced that Lucy was going to be in an
Adam Sandler movie and some of us had reactions ranging from mild dismay
to horrified screaming high angst. Good news: it wasn't near as bad as I
thought it might be.

I haven't seen any reviews on it here, so I thought I'd hop in with one.


No real spoilers but a few details about some things so read at your own
risk.

We trundled off to the movie theater the day after Christmas. I went
with quite a bit of trepidation-as I've said before, I was horribly
traumatized by an Adam Sandler movie years ago. I was visiting my sister's
house and my young barely teen at the time nephew was totally in love with
"Happy Gilmore" and watched it night and day, as it endlessly regurgitated
on HBO. It was absolutely horrifying and I was indelibly warped forever,
dead set in total Sandleravoidance mode.

BUT Lucy's in it and I have never seen her on the big screen, and my
friend Cheryl advocated for it, so I gritted my teeth and went.

And was very glad I did. I laughed out loud at some of that movie-THAT
was totally unexpected. It's very funny at times.

Of course, for most of us fans, Lucy wasn't used enough. But she did a
fine job in her role-as she said, she looked on her character as a Disney
villainess and she was pitch perfect in catching their typical
unending malevolence and sheer joy in being mean to anything that
crawls into their view. She didn't have a lot of lines, but she never
stopped acting, no matter how far from the camera she was. And she has
such an expressive face that you know just what she's thinking as she
glares at people or when she receives satisfaction when they get in
trouble. Very nice job.

One of the joys of the movie was watching for her in the story
sequences. She's in most if not all of them at some point. And she's
usually just barely human-in terms of this is a fantasy story where
the divisions between humans and animals get blurred, and non-human
body parts are part of the make-up. There was one moment early on in a
long shot where Sandler's talking and I suddenly realized that a
creature near him was probably Luce. The camera chose that moment to
cut, but when they swung back to the same shot, in the split
nano-second that she was on screen again, I was convinced it was
her-there was something in the way she was moving that confirmed this
for me. While it was pure Lucy, it was also appropriate for the
persona she was made up as-if such a human/animal mix existed,
they'd move exactly that way if they were pissed off. So I was sure it
was her and was talking silently to myself, mentally affirming, "That IS
Lucy!" just as my sister-in-law hissed out, "Is that Lucy as that (leaving
this last noun blank to not spoil anyone)?" And I laughed and whispered
back, "Yup".

But while I went to the movie for Lucy, I enjoyed some of the other
actors very much. I thought that the kids did a great job-they're
really portrayed as kids, not like the more common slimy, mean,
smart-mouthed brats that are all over TV and in some movies.

Kerie Russell was good. Courtney Cox was good. I enjoyed their time on
screen. And both of their characters had little emotional development
arcs that they handled very well. And of course, it's always a
pleasure to see so many female characters in a movie.

But one HUGE pleasure (and the source of most of my laugh out loud
moments) was Russell Brand. He was hilarious. He totally captured my
attention whenever he was onscreen. He found a real human being in the
character he played.

He was child-like and yet sometimes wise. And did some unexpected
things with kind of unusual reactions that were way funny. Whenever he
appeared onscreen, I looked forward to seeing what he'd do this time.
He read his comic lines with real wit and also did well with the
slapstick bits. I really, REALLY enjoyed him. And I noticed that he
got the lion's share of the laughs from the audience.

AND I think he's hot. Even his normal hairdo doesn't dampen that
reaction from me. Hoooo!

The only actor I wasn't terribly impressed with was Guy Pierce. I've
never seen him in anything before but he was-I'm not sure what. He was
way more one-dimensional in a not this is just a farce piece way than any
of the other characters. It was like he couldn't quite find anything
at all in the character that made him seem human-there was no
awareness or vulnerability there, he had no fears, no emotional
connection, no engagement with other people. And without that, it's
not a pleasure to watch a character. It's hard to care about what he's
up to. I guessssss, yeah, it was that he didn't go into the character
at all to me.

Oh and Sandler wasn't that bad at all. I do remember laughing once at
him, when we first saw the guinea pig-it appears on screen with him
and it was unexpected and not where you might think it might be and it
made me laugh.

And my greatest fear wasn't realized. The movie wasn't the usual
disgusting SNL alumni gross out. While there was a scene featuring
huge animated malevolent snot, nothing even approached the drinking sh*t
scene in one Mike Myers movie-the first movie I ever walked out of the
theater on. (It was SO not my idea to go see it in the first place.)

The theater was filled with little kids and their
folks/family/babysitters. The kids were pretty well behaved-there wasn't a
lot of yakking or running around the theater, so I'm thinking they liked
it. The oddest but kind of heart warming thing was that at the end of the
movie, some of the audience applauded. I haven't heard audiences applaud a
movie in years. Or course, that could have been coerced attendant adults
happy that it had come to the end-but I don't think so.

Happy New Year everybody.

KT

Isn't Melissa Etheridge performing on the same show ?  Wouldn't it be cool if
she and Lucy sang a duet ?
Hears to hoping.
Renee in Snowy Massachusetts.




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Hi Everyone,

Happy Winter Solstice, etc.

Lucy is going to be on The Bonnie Hunt Show today.? Where I am on the Right
Coast, it comes on at Noon.? I guess she'll be talking about Bedtime
Stories--the Adam Sandler movie she's in that comes out this coming week and BSG
that starts its new season in two or three weeks, and her gig on The L Word that
premieres on January 18.

So much Lucy to look forward to.


Portia


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