... I agree, I think this is all true. Dahok and Hope made Gabrielle suffer terrribly. They stole her innocence--in many ways. For many women, becoming a...
... That's another excellent point. Gabrielle absolutely bound herself to protecting Eve. And as you say, she loves this child of Xena's. I imagine that...
-Yeah, but Hope was ALOT more evil than Livia ever was. At least Livia found some sort of redemption when Eli transformed her in that temple. Hope made her...
Philosopher J.O. Urmson in his essay "Saints & Heroes" made some interesting observations regarding the characteristics of a saint and that of a hero. He...
... Yeah, I liked that moment. Like a couple of veteran gangsters reminiscing about old times. 'Reckon she'll manage to kill im?' 'Nah. She ain't got what...
... Hmm, well, first, 'hero' as defined up there is different from, say, the conventional television definition of 'hero' = 'the star of the show'. i.e., in...
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... I'm tempted to agree with cr here (not on the Gabrielle part, of course!, except to say that yes, why does there have to be just one 'hero' anyway). But I...
'Only good bit in the episode?!!!' Maybe I'm just more "visual," <g> but I really got into both Gabrielle and Xena's dances and I thought Virgil was a riot...
... say, the conventional television definition of 'hero' = 'the star of the show'. i.e., in this case, Xena. Also, Urmson appears to be adding another...
... course!, except to say that yes, why does there have to be just one 'hero' anyway). But I think J.O. Urmson's definitions are a bit off, well I shouldn't...
-I would think YES. Not many of us would choose to embrace death to pay for our misdeeds. I think Xena was afraid to die as most of us are yet she confronted...
... Oooh, now you pushed the wrong button! (Warning: Rant follows:) I hated that scene! Possibly the scene I hate most in all of XWP. Xena did *not* have...
On Thursday 03 July 2003 05:54, George wrote: (heroic snippage) ... Well, I certainly don't deny that Gabrielle had heroic moments. All I would dispute (and...
... Oh, she certainly did. Yes, her fear of her own dark side was there. But aside from that, there were, I'm certain, all the normal 'physical' fears that...
In a message dated 7/3/2003 5:19:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cr@... ... Xena made her choices. I'm a Xena fan, too and sometimes I wondered why she ...
I always preferred to think of Xena as far too complex a personality to hang any sort of lable, "hero" or otherwise, on. When she is saving the downtrodden and...
bill kisselstein
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Jul 3, 2003 4:24 pm
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I have mix emotions about this episode: First I just think Lucy did a great job in it specially in the torture scenes. But I think very much in the same lines...
I'd like to delurk here to throw in my $.02 on the question of the nature of the heroic in XWP, an extremely fascinating and complex discussion going here! I...
-Gabby wasn't going after the wrong man- Gurkhan captured Sarah and made her into a slave and a monster! But I'm glad she didn't go thru with killing him. And...
Oh well, late again, but what the heck! Having read Urmson's essay - which, btw, seems to be a seminal one as attested in the net-culled paragraph below - I...
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... Well, firstly, this is a side issue but I totally disagree that it was 'murder'. First, Xena was provoked about as far as it was possible to provoke...
... *BUT* it wouldn't have been necessary, but for Gabby's incredibly unwise attempt on Gurkhan - which wouldn't have succeeded anyway, I think. The fact that...
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