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#2685 From: "screenersamb" <screenersamb@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:34 pm
Subject: durham county / tp
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Canadian series 'Durham County' has some interesting parallels to TP

NEW COP:   Dale Cooper; Mike Sweeney
BACKGROUND:  trees; electric towers
GIRL DETECTIVE (in over her head):  Audrey Horne; Sadie Sweeney
CLIMATE: dark and gloomy in both
LOCAL BRUTE: Leo Johnson; Ray Prager
SENSITIVE TEEN: James Hurley; Ray Prager jr.
OPENING CRIME:  1 teen girl found dead (Laura Palmer); 2 teen girls found dead
PAST HAUNT: Coop had been in love with Windom Earle's wife; Sweeney had had a
fling with Prager's girlfriend.

   Biggest difference to me; TP had a nice cast of 2ry charax (Big Ed Hurley,
Pete Martell), which DC lacks.  of course a 6-episode season doesn't leave much
room for charax devlpt.
   and TP had some good humor bits, which DC lacks, but it's definitely better
than the average tv fare.  (and much better than the awful 'Prisoner' remake
last week)

#2684 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:32 am
Subject: RE: antimony
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I wrote,
> * Note that in astrology, the Earth is not a planet. The alchemy
>   symbol for Antimony (AntiMoon), the 'planetairy metal' of the
>   Earth, is identical to the astronomy symbol for the Earth.

   Greg Carden <eris@...> added,
> Antimony has nothing to do with the moon, as far as I know, it comes
> from the French antimoine, meaning "anti-monk" - the story goes that
> a Benedictine monk in the 1600's, Basilius Valentinus, thought it
> was a good treatment for health during fasting, and put some of the
> element in the communal food bowl, and managed to kill most of his
> fellow monks. Oops.

   I was unaware of this. In fact, your remark seems to be *very important*
   (see below)...

   On,
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilius_Valentinus
   it says,
      Most famous works (in Latin)
      Currus Triumphalis Antimonii (The triumphal chariot of antimony)
   and,                                                      ^^^^^^^^
      Valentinus had connections to the esoteric Freemasonry as his work
      Azoth proves (VA05, REBIS with the freemasonry square and compasses
      in the hands). Behind his works stood the secret knowledge of
      spiritual alchemy, the Opus Magnum.
                ^^^^^^^
   So, I suppose we were both right. See also,
      http://www.sacred-texts.com/alc/antimony.htm

   Anyway, the symbol for both antimony and the Earth is an 'o' with a
   '+' inside of it or on top of it,
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimony#History
   In astronomy, the '+' is almost always written inside of the 'o' -
   see my web page,
      http://www.fluks.combidom.com/javascript/uniiso.htm


   Marc Fluks
"Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" wrote:
> * Note that in astrology, the Earth is not a planet. The alchemy
>    symbol for Antimony (AntiMoon), the 'planetairy metal' of the
>    Earth, is identical to the astronomy symbol for the Earth.

Antimony has nothing to do with the moon, as far as I know, it comes
from the French antimoine, meaning “anti-monk” - the story goes that a
Benedictine monk in the 1600's, Basilius Valentinus, thought it was a
good treatment for health during fasting, and put some of the element
in the communal food bowl, and managed to kill most of his fellow
monks. Oops.

#2683 From: "Steffen" <greencard_travel@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:23 am
Subject: Re: And now back to Twin Peaks
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still amazed with all the youtube videos,
back in the TP days I didn't live in the US
so all the actors interviews in talk shows
and promotional stuff is new to me...

there is a great video of Angelo Badalamenti
explaining how he & David came up with the music...

and so funny: Lynch "Putting Panties in my Mouth"

-st.

-----
Cooper: Harry, my dream is a code waiting to be broken.
Break the code, solve the crime.
Lucy (taking notes): Break the...code, solve the...crime.
-----

> Just wondering if we can discuss something beside the
> subjective interconnectedness of all things and talk
> about something more Lynchian?
>
> Any one seen the actors in anything new lately?
>
> Any word on a new David Lynch project?
>
> - Roger "THE Doctor"

#2682 From: "THE Doctor" <doctor@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:37 am
Subject: And now back to Twin Peaks
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Just wondering if we can discuss something beside the subjective interconnectedness of all things and talk about something more Lynchian?
 
Any one seen the actors in anything new lately?
 
Any word on a new David Lynch project?
 
- Roger "THE Doctor"
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"Harry, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it. Don't wait for it. Just let it happen. It could be a new shirt at the men's store, a catnap in your office chair, or two cups of good, hot black coffee."
     - Dale Cooper (Twin Peaks)
 
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#2681 From: Greg Carden <eris@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:05 pm
Subject: antimony
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"Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" wrote:
> * Note that in astrology, the Earth is not a planet. The alchemy
>    symbol for Antimony (AntiMoon), the 'planetairy metal' of the
>    Earth, is identical to the astronomy symbol for the Earth.

Antimony has nothing to do with the moon, as far as I know, it comes
from the French antimoine, meaning “anti-monk” - the story goes that a
Benedictine monk in the 1600's, Basilius Valentinus, thought it was a
good treatment for health during fasting, and put some of the element
in the communal food bowl, and managed to kill most of his fellow
monks. Oops.

#2680 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:14 am
Subject: RE: Hermetic jibberish & TP
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Greg Carden <eris@...> wrote,
> Lead usually is linked to Saturn, incidentally, but can
> also refer to the Earth (...) Copper, in alchemy, is
> linked with Venus.

This is what I have...
-------------------------------------------------------
Day        Deity       Planet/Giant    Metal    Colour
-------------------------------------------------------
Sunday     Zeus        Sun             Gold     Orange
Monday     Maia        Moon            Silver   White
Wednesday  Hermes      Mercury         Mercury  Yellow
Friday     Aphrodite   Venus           Copper   Green
Tuesday    Ares        Mars            Iron     Red
Thursday   Jupiter     Jupiter         Tin      Blue
Saturday   Kronos      Saturn          Lead     Black
   -         Osiris      Orion            -       Violet
   -         Isis/Thoth  Sirius/Big Dog  Cadmium  Indigo
   -         Horus       Small Dog       Zinc     Magenta
   -         Gaia        Earth           Antimony  -
-------------------------------------------------------

* Note that in astrology, the Earth is not a planet. The alchemy
    symbol for Antimony (AntiMoon), the 'planetairy metal' of the
    Earth, is identical to the astronomy symbol for the Earth. The
    Planets are Deities and the constellations are Giants.
* I don't know why the colour of Osiris is violet and also, I don't
    know the corresponding metal.
* Mercury, Zinc, and Cadmium are in Group 12 of the Periodic Table,
       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_12_element
    - this explains why these elements are so important in quackery
    (Mercury being the Deity of Quackery).
    Note that there is a Dead Dog here: Cadmium used to be Zinc too,
       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium
       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamine
* Most colours correspond to that of the metal(oxide); yellow
    corresponds to the colour of Sulphur (the alchemy of metals is
    based on Mercury and Sulphur). Indigo and Magenta correspond to
    the colours of the Solar and Lunar Eclipses. These also correspond
    to *both* eyes of Horus in Egyptian mythology.


Marc Fluks

#2679 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:30 am
Subject: The Prisoner vs. The Recidivist
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Comparing the original series of The Prisoner and the 2009
remake, this might be the solution....

------------------------------------------------------
Character     Original           Remake
------------------------------------------------------
Number 1      Butler/Mercury     Dog 1
Number 2      Moon               Sun/God
Number 6      Sun/God            Satan (Dog 1 + Dog 2)
Number 26     Supervisor/Apollo  Dog 2
Wife Number 2  -                 Moon
Number 11-12   -                 Mercury (12-11=1)
Village       Hell               Heaven
Scenario      Ragnarok           Ragnarok
------------------------------------------------------


Marc Fluks

#2678 From: Greg Carden <eris@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:06 am
Subject: Hermetic jibberish & TP
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Greetings -

I definitely believe there are lots of Hermetic and/or Occult meanings
behind Twin Peaks, I suspect coming mostly from Mark Frost who seems to
have a background in Theosophy (I can't recall the names of the novels
he wrote after Twin Peaks, sort of Sherlock Holmes meets Agent Cooper,
but Helen P. Blavatsky is actually a character - she's the founder of
Theosophy, and the main leader, at least the most well known today).
Some of the esoteric references are downright obvious, like the use of
the term "Dweller on the Threshold" used by Hawk, which despite what he
says is not a Zuni reference, but comes from a Rosicrucian style novel,
Zanoni by Edward Bulwer-Lytton which was later adopted by Theosophy and
other such groups. The Dweller sort of (loosely, briefly) represents
the negative aspects of the ego, which one must overcome as one
"crosses the Abyss" into enlightenment (or "communion with one's
Guardian Angel" or however the particular tradition terms it).

Then there are some Hermetic/esoteric references that are a bit more
obscure (fittingly, as such things are usually written about in code or
symbol, "hieroglyphs," so those in the "know" can keep under the radar,
plus some subjects do not quite work with the way language usually
works, subject-object duality, and a more poetic approach seems
sometimes to get the job done better). Take Dale Cooper's name, for
example. Besides the well known link between his last name and the
ancient job of putting rings around barrels, which ties into the circle
as a main trope in the TP series (the Golden Ring, circular saw image,
fan spinning 'round, etc), his first and last name are also (perhaps)
references to alchemy (one of the Hermetic Arts). Change the letters
around a bit, "Dale" becomes "Lead," the material one starts with in
alchemy, which is base and material, but through the processes of
alchemy (which are often thought of as circular, BTW) will ultimately
be perfected, or "turned into Gold." Some alchemists took this
literally, others as symbolic changes in one's soul or psyche, still
others felt it could be both. Lead usually is linked to Saturn,
incidentally, but can also refer to the Earth (alchemy often used the
same symbol for many things, thus confusing scholars). "Cooper" is very
close to being "Copper," and Cooper's lawman status is also a pun here
("copper" being slang for a cop, law enforcer). Copper, in alchemy, is
linked with Venus. Also, I cannot recall the source (probably in a book
by Jungian psychologists Edinger), there is a list of eight metals of
alchemy, representing eight steps of the "Great Art." They are split
into two sets of four, the latter group being sort of higher octaves
based on the first four. Lead is the first metal, the starting point,
and Copper is the first metal of the second group, like a higher more
perfected level based on Lead. TP could be about the initiatory journey
of Special Agent Cooper, as he goes from flawed, fallen, materialistic
man to (hopefully) enlightened, spiritual, perfected Man (I believe
this was the way things would have gone had the series continued,
anyway).

This is all conjecture, of course, and I know that for those who do not
study the Hermetic or occult arts, much of this kind of thing can sound
like gibberish (in fact, the word "gibberish" comes from the name of an
Arab alchemist whose writings were very popular at one point, al-Geber
- while most alchemists wrote in convoluted, symbolic, coded, poetic,
obscure ways, apparently al-Geber was particularly well known for
this). One reason they often wrote in these ways was that it was during
the time of the Inquisition, and what they were doing was often deemed
heretical, so there were legitimate reasons (and I'm sure lots of fakes
took advantage of the style and wrote lots of strange sounding nonsense
in order to be seen as wise and mysterious sages).

Anyway, I've enjoyed Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks many posts, though even
with my background in esotericism (mainly armchair reading, but some
practical knowledge as well), much of what he has to say leaves me
scratching my head. Admittedly, I have not taken the time to really
study what he has to say in depth, due to time constraints, but while I
feel he's got something worth investigating, his air of absolute
certainty in his theories can be off-putting (no offense, it may merely
be the Libran in me speaking). There is a kind of "disease" that can
affect those who delve into the Mysteries, once they see how All is
Connected, like a net of jewels (to use an image from Hinduism, which
also had an alchemical tradition), they can start seeing things
connecting in ways that perhaps go too far. It all might be connected
on a deeper level, but this sort of thinking (which I've been guilty of
more than I care to admit, especially during my first few years of
serious study in this area) leads one to posit connections at a causal
level. Apophenia. The Hermetic axiom "As above, so below" means in part
that in every human work, even TV shows, patterns will manifest, the
same pattern that is underneath Nature itself, and if one looks hard
enough, one can find lots of instances of this pattern. However, it
does not always mean that it was consciously intended by the creators.
As I said earlier, Frost is interested in Theosophy (which is part of
Hermeticism), in one of the published "guidebooks" to Twin Peaks, there
is even mention of a Theosophical discussion group in town, listing a
handful of town members as belonging to it. So, there is reason to
suspect that there is at least a layer of Hermetic meaning to some of
TP. It may not be the ultimate meaning, but I think there is a real
element of it that deserves valid attention.

One quick point:
On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:03 AM, "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" wrote:
> [Note that 'reflection' refers to Mercury, the Deity of the Mirror]

In Hermeticism, it is usually the Moon that is associated with mirrors,
and reflection; though I can recall at least a couple of Greek myths
that link Hermes to mirrors. FWIW.

Also, I don't quite "grok" the importance of two dogs that you keep
bringing up, I need to go through all your posts in a more methodical
manner, but I assume you've noticed the opening scene of TP, Josie
looking at her reflection in a mirror (!), with a lamp on the desk that
has at its base two stylized dogs. ?

- Don Coyote

#2677 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:59 am
Subject: The Prisoner remake update
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An interview with screenwriter Bill Gallagher can be found here,
    http://www.televisionaryblog.com/2009/11/prisoner-alpha-and-omega.html
Note that the title of the interview, 'Alpha and Omega', refers
to the Ragnarok scenario - the astrology of Ragnarok being the
main topic of both Prisoner scenarios.

More reviews are being published at,
    http://www.denofgeek.com/_tag/342/0/0/25/The%20Prisoner/


Marc Fluks

#2676 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:38 am
Subject: The Prisoner remake update
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#2675 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:08 am
Subject: Re: Map of Twin Peaks
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xcyclonex <xcyclonex@...>,
> Please get the solution in when you can. I still cant see
> the dogs or dog basket.

   I can't edit images.
   You should try better. The two dogs are really there.
     http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/6856/sn/1847535855/name/IMG_2971.jpg
   Maybe you concentrate too much on a map ? It is *not* a map.
   We are supposed *not to see* things like these in our world
   - this in fact is what Twin Peaks is all about.

   You might try to block part of the image - left of the North-
   South and below the East-West roads... then you might see the
   two dogs better.


   Marc Fluks

#2674 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: The Prisoner remake update
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On,
    http://www.tvguide.com/news/caviezel-mckellen-prisoner-1012114.aspx
it says,
    But this is not the same story, but it's inspired by the original.
    And I think, on reflection, when people see what we've done, they'll
    agree that was the way to do it. There would be no point in copying.

[Note that 'reflection' refers to Mercury, the Deity of the Mirror]

In the original, God (Number 6) finds himself in Hell (the Village).
My interpretation of the newspaper stories I've seen so far is that
the new series is about Satan inspecting Heaven (the New Village).
And, of course, this is all in the mind (of Number 6): the two heads
have merged.

This is because...
   * The name of Number 6 is Michael - this is the Christian Satan.
    There is a story about this in Twin Peaks where Gerard is the Milky
    Way (this is the real reason why Gerard doesn't has two arms):
    Michael refers to the archangel Michael.
   * When Number 6 awakes, he hears dogs being shot and apparently
    there is no butler and no supervisor in the new series. It is the
    Freemason version of the story of Ragnarok - where Satan is created
    out of the two dogs Mercury and Apollo (the butler and the supervisor).
    Number 6 must be Satan and therefore he remembers that he used to be
    a supervisor - where 'remembering' refers to Mercury. Since this is
    about constellations, he must be in Heaven.
   * In the Freemason scenario, Jesus is to replaced by Mercury and God
    by Satan. Since Number 6 was God in the original series, he should
    be Satan in the new one. Also, the new series continues where the
    original ends.
If I am right, Numer 2 doesn't has to be the Moon (as in the original
series). He might be the Sun (God) instead - since Mercury is also the
son of the Sun. It would be a nice ending to se everyone escaping
again: this will mean that they all go to Hell. And Number 6 is home
again...

On,

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/363226/the_prisoner_episode_1_review.html
is says,
    a spy who might or might not have information that the Other Side (...)
    wanted him to reveal.
This refers to Hermetic meanings.
Videos can be found here,
    http://www.daemonstv.com/category/cable/amc/the-prisoner-amc-cable/


Marc Fluks

#2673 From: "xcyclonex" <xcyclonex@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:50 am
Subject: Re: Map of Twin Peaks
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Please get the solution in when you can. I still cant see the dogs or dog
basket.

--- In twinpeaks@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...> wrote:
>
>   greencard_travel <greencard_travel@...> wrote,
> > I put a screen shot of that map from Episode 23,
> > http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/6856/sn/1847535855/name/IMG_2971.jpg
>
>   [Thanks]
>
>   Yes, this is it.
>
>   The two dogs are in the top-centre region of the map. The background
>   dog has a tail. The head of the foreground dog is created by a mountain.
>   The (left) background dog even is a dog for the blind (this is a
>   very nice joke since the left eye of Horus is supposed to be *closed*
>   to see Hermetic meanings). Since the background dog is Horus, the
>   foreground dog must be Thoth (Apollo and Hermes/Mercury, Cole and
>   Cooper). Once you've noticed the two dogs, it is very simple.
>
>   Last week, I watched Twin Peaks again and this is what I saw...
>     - There is a Dead Dog in Little Red Riding Hood (mentioned by
>       Audrey in One Eyed Jack's).
>     - Dr. Jacobi can see the *resurrection* of the Dead Dog due to
>       the *two* colours (right: magenta and left: indigo) of his
>       glases (this is a very nice one - however, most people will
>       not see the Egyptian astrology/mythology of colours).
>     - 'To be or not to be' by Shakespeare is a Dead Dog (this one is
>       a very nice one too: try to read the words in a different way).
>     - 'To doublecross' (mentioned by Ben) is both a Dead Dog and
>       the profane sign of Freemasonry (this is written on the black
>       board too but you won't see it). There also is the 'doubleplus'
>       in Orwell's '1984' to consider (illustrating that Twin Peaks,
>       The Prisoner and 1984 are the same story). BTW, the remake of
>       The Prisoner is set to premiere on November 15, 2009 - see,
>
> http://blogs.amctv.com/the-prisoner/2009/09/the-prisoner-premiere-nov-15.php
>
>   I will mail the solutions next week or so.
>   In the mean time, you might try to find the solutions yourselves.
>
>
>   Marc Fluks
>

#2672 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:09 am
Subject: The Prisoner remake update
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* Official info is available at,
       http://www.amctv.com/originals/the-prisoner/
    There is a Village-Wiki at,
       http://www.thevillagewiki.org
    See also Time Magazine,
       http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1938714,00.html
       http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1938714-2,00.html

* TVoverMind covers The Prisoner at,
       http://www.tvovermind.com/prisoner/
    There even is summary of Part 1 of the series,

http://www.tvovermind.com/prisoner/recap-the-prisoner-1-01-arrival/13598/1

http://www.tvovermind.com/prisoner/recap-the-prisoner-1-01-arrival/13598/2

http://www.tvovermind.com/prisoner/recap-the-prisoner-1-01-arrival/13598/3

http://www.tvovermind.com/prisoner/recap-the-prisoner-1-01-arrival/13598/4
    Where,
       A man wakes up in a desert, with fractured memories running through
       his mind of himself in his apartment. Disoriented, he stands up and
       begins running around, unsure of where he is or where he should go.
       Suddenly, he hears gunshots and barking dogs.
    This is about Ragnarok: two dogs are causing the Solar Eclipse and the
    Milky Way disapears - so the two Dogs in the Sky can merge. Satan
    returns, the world has been destroyed and is created again,
    The third page of the summary says,
       6 instead demands to be let "out," but 2 replies that there is no
       "out," there is only "in." 2 tells 6 to open his mind, but 6 says
       that they'll only take his mind away. "We might," replies 2. "But
       we'll always give it back."
    This is about the alchemy of reincarnation (*another* person
    reincarnates in *our* body after we have gone - this is also covered
    in Twin Peaks; it is the Hermetic meaning of reincarnation),
    The review of the series,
       http://www.tvovermind.com/headlines/the-prisoner-review/13543/1
       http://www.tvovermind.com/headlines/the-prisoner-review/13543/2
    says,
       6, however, remains buoyed by a secret class of Village-dwellers
       called 'dreamers,' who see flashes of their previous lives and
       puzzle over their meaning.
    People that cannot see Hermetic meanings are dreaming. They cannot
    solve the puzzle because they are unaware of the puzzle itself.
    This is important,
       By the time you reach the end of The Prisoner's sixth hour, you
       will know what the village is.
    The titles of the 5 parts of the series are (Part 2 refers to
    Herakles, Part 3 to Zeus/Hera, Part 5 to Schizophrenia, the absense
    of Enlightenment, and Part 6 refers to Freemasonry),
       The Prisoner will premiere at 8PM est over three nights:
       Nov. 15, Sun. - episodes "Arrival" and "Harmony"
       Nov. 16, Mon. - episodes "Anvil" and "Darling"
       Nov. 17, Tue. - episodes "Schizoid" and "Checkmate"
    WebVideos are available from,

http://www.tvovermind.com/tv-news/promo-synopsis-photos-the-prisoner-miniseries/\
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#2671 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:31 am
Subject: The Prisoner: Newspapers stories
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More newspaper stories on The Prisoner...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/arts/television/13prisoner.html

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/wiser/1883144,the-prisoner-111509.article

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-ian-mckellen14-2009nov14,0,49222\
50.story
    http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117941588.html
    http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20091115/OSH0503/91114042
    http://www.miamiherald.com/living/story/1331837.html

The first URL says about the ruler (the Moon) of the Hermetic World,
    Mr. McKellen is the real star, a wily, mercurial dictator
The second URL adds (where Mercury is the Diety of Homosexuality
and the son of the Moon),
    His wife appears to be in a voluntary coma, and his son is gay
The third URL says about the main character,
    he struggles to convince those he encounters that there's a world
    beyond the desert, a notion that alarms the villagers, who have
    learned not to question the status quo.

Apparently, the journalists are well aware of what is really going
on here.


Marc Fluks

#2670 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:38 am
Subject: Gilding the Prisoner's Cage
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Source: The Daily Beast
Date:   November 15, 2009
Author: Jace Lacob
URL:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-14/gilding-the-prisoners-\
cage/


Gilding the Prisoner's Cage
---------------------------
Michael Pickwoad, the production designer behind AMC's highly stylized
update of The Prisoner, takes The Daily Beast behind the scenes.

In the topsy-turvy world of The Prisoner, the inhabitants of The Village
find themselves trapped in a Kafka-esque prison that strips away their
individuality and assigns them numbers rather than names. On the surface,
it's an idyllic place, but beneath that pleasant facade, it's a locus
for a seething paranoia where everyone is watching each other.

In offering a reimagining of the British cult classic The Prisoner,
production designer Michael Pickwoad (ITV's Lost in Austen) had his work
cut out for him. Although only 17 episodes, the original Prisoner remains,
40 years later, an enduring and enigmatic small-screen masterpiece of
fear and suspense.

But while the production team sought to create a unique visual style that
would allow this Prisoner to stand on its own, there are elements of that
legacy that rather sneakily crept into AMC's update. 'The odd references
are intended to sort of signify that there’s some connection,' said
Pickwoad of some of the cheeky allusions to Patrick McGoohan's 1960s
Prisoner.

AMC's Prisoner, much of which was shot over 18 weeks on location in
sweltering Swakopmund, Namibia, unfolds in two locations. 'There's the
present-day New York and then there's this other place, The Village,'
Pickwoad said. 'One made an attempt to have an unreal reality or a real
unreality... One moment it's very friendly and the next moment it's very
worrying. It's a bit like a dream, something that seems very nice that
suddenly puts you in a situation that's very threatening. You have some
knowledge of it but you can’t quite place it.'

Adding to that feeling of overwhelming unease are some of the
production's locations, including the vintage A-frame houses that
comprise The Village itself, which weren't constructed for The Prisoner
but actually exist. They serve to underpin the surreal sensation of The
Village and will, Pickwoad hopes, serve as iconic images for the
reimagined Prisoner.

'Those pink, triangular houses are very much a symbol for strangeness,'
said Pickwoad. 'When I first saw them, I couldn't quite believe that
they existed. Until you realize that if you went to Northern Germany,
you'd probably see a lot of them... Swakopmund itself... looked like
something out of a color chart.'

Ultimately, the world of The Prisoner is a place where the past,
present, and future manage to commingle, both within the confines of
the narrative and in our own memories of the original series.

'Yes, that’s the fun of it and the challenge of it,' said Pickwoad,
laughing. 'I hope that people who watched the first one will want to
tune in again.'

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(c) 2009 The Daily Beast

#2669 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 11:18 am
Subject: The Prisoner remake to premiere November 15 (USA) and 17 (UK)
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On,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_(2009_miniseries)
it says,
    The remake, in one form or another in the works since 2005,
    is now set to premiere on November 15, 2009 as a miniseries
    on AMC, in cooperation with British broadcaster ITV. The
    series will air in the UK in early 2010.

See also,
    http://blogs.amctv.com/the-prisoner/2009/09/the-prisoner-premiere-nov-15.php
where,
    AMC will premiere its six-part miniseries The Prisoner on Sun.,
    Nov. 15 from 8PM to 10PM ET|PT, featuring the series' first
    two episodes back-to-back. A reinterpretation of the 1960s
    cult classic, The Prisoner will air over three consecutive
    nights, with two episodes each evening, from 8PM to 10PM ET|PT.

The first URL says,
    Other cast members include Ruth Wilson as No. 313, Hayley Atwell
    as Lucy, Lennie James as No. 147 and Jamie Campbell Bower as No.
    11-12, Number 2's estranged son. Hayley Atwell is also cast
    as No. 4-15.
I suppose,
    - 313 refers to omega-3, the Solar eclipse (the trap being set for
     Number 6).
    - 11-12 refers to Number 1 (see below).
    - Lucy refers to Lucifer (like in Twin Peaks).
    - Number 147 refers to alchemy - like the Tintin album Flight 714.

Note that the both URLs mentioning that Number 2 has a son. This
is weird since Number 2 is the (New) Moon, Maia. The son of Maia
is Mercury and in the original series, the Butler is Mercury
(Number 1). So there will be two Mercuries in the new series -
or there *no longer* will be a butler.

...this son cannot be the Sun since Number 6 is the Sun ('Wake
and Shine'; 'Hallo Sonny')...    :-)

For the ITV info in the UK, see,
    http://www.itv.com/Drama/cult/ThePrisoner/default.html
On,
    http://www.itv.com/drama/cult/theprisoner/competition/comp1/default.html
it says,
    Win Tickets to an Exclusive Screening of The Prisoner!
    ITV.com has 24 tickets to give away for an exclusive screening
    of the first two episodes of the re-invented 1960s classic cult
    thriller,The Prisoner, just 48 hours after its US premier on AMC!
    Eagerly anticipated since ITV Studios and AMC announced its co-
    production, the screening will be held on the evening of Tuesday
    17th November at the Odeon West End in London.


Marc Fluks

#2668 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:22 am
Subject: More Dogs 4/4: Doublecross and doubleplus
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Doublecross and doubleplus
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* There is something going on with cheating, or to,
      Dubbelcross
   In order to see what is going on, we have to leook at this word
   in a diffrent way...

* First solution: just write down *two* crosses ('times' characters
   instead of 'X' characters),
      XX
   Note that we see the Crook and Flail of Osiris. In Freemasonry,
   these are called Square and Compasses,
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flail
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_and_Compasses
   This is why the into of 'The Prisoner' mentioning 'By Hook or by
   Crook'. BTW, it also refers to two constellations.

* Second solution: write down to crosses ('times' characters instead
   of 'X' characters again), this way,
       X
      X
   This corresponds to the Dead Dog being present on the back side of
   all Euro banknotes (the dogs on the Euro banknotes are the numbers).
   Both banks are linked by a bridge ('over troubled water': the Milky
   Way).

* Third solution: the tweo crosses are plus-characters. This is not
   only the same thing as the second solution above but also refers
   to,
      Doubleplus
   This word is a key concept in George Orwell's 'Newspeak' in '1984'
   - the book that tells how our world is ruled by Freemasons.
      ---------------------------
      English     Newspeak
      ---------------------------
      Warm        Warm
      Warmer      Plus Warm
      Warmest     Dubbelplus Warm
      ---------------------------
   The language turns out to be the number 1 tool to create a Dead
   Dog in a person's mind.

#2667 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:20 am
Subject: More Dogs 4/3: To be, or not to be
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To be or not to be
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Shakespeare as an actor might have been a historical figure, but
the play writer Shakespeare never existed. The plays are supposed
to have been written by a Freemason Lodge.

* What does this well known line from Hamlet by Shakespeare really
   meaning ?
      To be, or not to be
   See,
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_be,_or_not_to_be
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet

* The material meaning is clear: it means,
      Live or die

* The Hermetic meaning will be reveiled once we look at this line
   another way. In order to do that, we must rewrite the homophones,
      'to' -> 'two'
      'be' -> 'b'
   yielding,
      Two be or not two be = BB or not B
   and also,
      Be Two or be One
   Both refering to the same thing: these lines refer to the Dead Dog
   (two dogs, BB) and the Awakening of the Dead Dog (1 dog, B). Note
   that in '1984' by Orwell, 'BB' refers to 'Big Brother' (it is also
   very popular in 'bees').
   The Hermetic meaning therefore is,
      Die or Live

   -> Note that the Hermetic meaning is exactly the *opposite* thing
      of the material meaning - although the words are *identical*.
      Note also that there is a McCartney song and a James Bond story
      written about this.

...You only live twice, Mr. Bond...

#2666 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:18 am
Subject: More Dogs 4/2: 'New Age'-psychiatry
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'New Age'-psychiatry
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* A very special character in Twin Peaks is 'New Age'-psychiatrist
   Lawrence Jacoby,
      http://www.lynchnet.com/tp/tpcard17.html
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_of_Twin_Peaks#Lawrence_Jacoby
   The first URL cites Jacoby saying,
      My ability to see the world through rose-and aqua-colored glasses,
      thereby balancing the right and left side of my brain.
   To be more exact: to colour of his right eye glass is Magenta and the
   colour of his his left eye glass is Indigo.

* In astrology.
    - Magenta is the colour of (the eye of) Canis Minor Horus (Apollo)
    - Indigo is the colour of Sirius (the eye of) Canis Major (Mercury)
    - The two colours correspond to the Dead Dog (Apollo + Mercury)
   So the colour of the glasses correct for the the colour of the eyes
   of the dogs,
      Jacoby's eyes + glasses observe *identical realities*
   Since an open right (Solar) eye observes the material world and a
   closed left (Lunar) eye observes the Hermetic world, and since people
   that see identical things with both eyes are supposed to be
   'enlightened', the colours state that,
    - 'Subconscious' refers to the Hermetic world (since Jacoby is a
      psychiatrist).
    - Jacoby is an enlightened person (New Age people are enlightened).
    - Jacoby can *see* the Dead Dog as an Awakened Dog (since both
      eyes see the same thing and refer to the two dogs). Jacoby can
      see Satan in Twin Peaks.

#2665 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:16 am
Subject: More Dogs 4/1: Little Red Riding Hood
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Little Red Riding Hood
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* According Episode 9 of Twin Peaks (Episode 10 in the WikiPedia list),
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Twin_Peaks_episodes
   there is something special concerning the fairy tale about Little Red
   Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf,
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Red_Riding_Hood

* Analysis reveils that,
      Little Red Riding Hood - Little Dog (Canis Minor, Apollo, Horus)
      Big Bad Wolf           - Big Dog (Canis Major, Mercury, Thoth)
      Hunter                 - Orion (Osiris, Hades/Pluto, Death)
      Grandma                - Sirius (Isis, Hera)
      Veil                   - Milky Way (Veil of Isis, Milk of Hera)
      Stones                 - Freemasonry
   The Wolf is big because it is a constellation. First the Wolf eats
   Grandma because Sirius is part of Canis Major. When Little Red
   Riding Hood arrives at her Grandma's, the Wolf removes his Veil so
   there *no longer* is a wall between the two constellations dog.
   Next, the Wolf eats Little Red Riding Hood (the two dogs merge,
   awakening Orthos/Satan). Then the Hunter arrives and Little Red
   Riding Hood and het Grandma are *free* again (that is: they are
   *dead*) and the Hunter then fills the stomach of the Wolf with
   stones (Freemasons). The End. The above analysis explains *why*
   this fairy tail is mentioned in Twin Peaks.

* Why is the girl called Little Red Riding Hood ?
    - 'Little' refers to Canis *Minor*.
    - 'Red' (in fact it is Magenta) refers to the colour of Horus.
    - 'Riding' refers to moving in the night Sky.
    - 'Hood' refers to the fact that Canis Minor was hided by the
      Hermetic School in ancient Greece (people were not allowed
      to know that the constellation existed because they are to be
      fooled with Hermetic meanings).

#2664 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:14 am
Subject: More Dogs 4/0: Introduction
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Last week, I watched Twin Peaks again and this is what I saw...
   - There is a Dead Dog in Little Red Riding Hood.
   - Dr. Jacoby can see the *resurrection* of the Dead Dog due to
     the *two* colours of his glases.
   - 'To be or not to be' by Shakespeare is a Dead Dog.
   - 'To doublecross' is both a Dead Dog and the profane sign of
    Freemasonry. There also is the 'doubleplus' in Orwell's '1984'
    to consider.

...in the next four mails, you will see why...


Marc Fluks

#2663 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:02 am
Subject: Re: Map of Twin Peaks
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greencard_travel <greencard_travel@...> wrote,
> I put a screen shot of that map from Episode 23,
> http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/6856/sn/1847535855/name/IMG_2971.jpg

   [Thanks]

   Yes, this is it.

   The two dogs are in the top-centre region of the map. The background
   dog has a tail. The head of the foreground dog is created by a mountain.
   The (left) background dog even is a dog for the blind (this is a
   very nice joke since the left eye of Horus is supposed to be *closed*
   to see Hermetic meanings). Since the background dog is Horus, the
   foreground dog must be Thoth (Apollo and Hermes/Mercury, Cole and
   Cooper). Once you've noticed the two dogs, it is very simple.

   Last week, I watched Twin Peaks again and this is what I saw...
     - There is a Dead Dog in Little Red Riding Hood (mentioned by
       Audrey in One Eyed Jack's).
     - Dr. Jacobi can see the *resurrection* of the Dead Dog due to
       the *two* colours (right: magenta and left: indigo) of his
       glases (this is a very nice one - however, most people will
       not see the Egyptian astrology/mythology of colours).
     - 'To be or not to be' by Shakespeare is a Dead Dog (this one is
       a very nice one too: try to read the words in a different way).
     - 'To doublecross' (mentioned by Ben) is both a Dead Dog and
       the profane sign of Freemasonry (this is written on the black
       board too but you won't see it). There also is the 'doubleplus'
       in Orwell's '1984' to consider (illustrating that Twin Peaks,
       The Prisoner and 1984 are the same story). BTW, the remake of
       The Prisoner is set to premiere on November 15, 2009 - see,

http://blogs.amctv.com/the-prisoner/2009/09/the-prisoner-premiere-nov-15.php

   I will mail the solutions next week or so.
   In the mean time, you might try to find the solutions yourselves.


   Marc Fluks

#2662 From: "greencard_travel" <greencard_travel@...>
Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:34 am
Subject: Re: Map of Twin Peaks
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I put a screen shot of that map from Episode 23
in the photo section of the group website:

http://tinyurl.com/ykj7mr8
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/twinpeaks/photos/album/0/list

not sure though if I can really see the things you see,
maybe you could draw over the pix in PhotoShop
to make it easier for us and re-upload the pix...
-st.


> * The streets of Twin Peaks represent a dog basket.
> * The woods/mountains/roads North of Twin Peaks represent *two dogs*.

#2661 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:18 am
Subject: Map of Twin Peaks
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Map of Twin Peaks
-----------------

Something special is going on with the map of Twin Peaks in Episode
23.
* The streets of Twin Peaks represent a dog basket.
* The woods/mountains/roads North of Twin Peaks represent *two dogs*.

The map is drawn on a blackboard and is shown near 0:26 in this
episode when attention of the audience is distracted by a game of
chess. The actors even bow so we can see the map better. However,
the audience might think their characters concentrate on the game
of chess (no, they don't).

The Hermetic meaning must be that the Dead Dog (two dogs) has been
settling in in Twin Peaks. This is why we see two dogs every few
minutes or so (though the dogs ain't animals).

This map shows more details than other maps of Twin Peaks (these
maps don't show the two dogs). The standard map of Twin Peaks,
    http://www.infographex.com/twinmap.gif
doesn't help either. Although we might see the dog basket, we cannot
see the dogs. We need the DVDs to see the dogs too.


Marc Fluks

#2660 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Mon Oct 5, 2009 11:18 am
Subject: WebTV: The Prisoner
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* On,
    http://www.amctv.com/originals/the-prisoner/
    we can watch the TV series The Prisoner on WebTV,
    http://www.amctv.com/originals/the-prisoner-1960s-series/
    http://www.amctv.com/videos/the-prisoner-1960s-video/
* Photographs are available from,
    http://www.amctv.com/originals/the-prisoner-1960s-series/photo-gallery/

...several photographs are of special interest...

* Two photographs of a Solar Eclipse.
   First photograph from left to right: Mercury, the Sun, and the
   New Moon. Second photograph: the Sun fighting the darkness
   during daytime (The Beatles: 'A Hard Day's Night'),

http://blogs.amctv.com/the_prisoner_1967-68_episode_photos/prisoner-patrick-mcgo\
ohan-eps2-10.php

http://blogs.amctv.com/the_prisoner_1967-68_episode_photos/prisoner-eps3-16.php
* Both the Solar Eclipse and the Dead Dog (Ragnarok again). Main
   topic of Freemasonry, Quackery, and Hitlers book 'Mein Kampf'.
   From left to right: Mercury, the Sun, the New Moon, and the
   Dead Dog Orthos,

http://blogs.amctv.com/the_prisoner_1967-68_episode_photos/83-prisoner-eps16.php
* Another Solar Eclipse: the New Moon will die soon and is wearing
   eclipse-spectacles to protect himself against from the Sun,

http://blogs.amctv.com/the_prisoner_1967-68_episode_photos/85-prisoner-leo-mcker\
n-eps16jpg.php
* The resurection of the Dead Dog: the Solar Eclipse has passed,
   the New Moon just died: Mercury (the butler/messenger Thoth)
   joins Apollo (the supervisor, the Eye of Horus),

http://blogs.amctv.com/the_prisoner_1967-68_episode_photos/89-prisoner-angelo-mu\
scat-eps17.php
* The final photograph shows The Prisoner in the colour blue of
   Jupiter (6th planet in ancient times, number #6, the colour that
   has been removed from the Freemason rainbow) and the Sky just
   before he escapes. Unfortunately, Mercury and the awakened (New)
   Moon will join him so Ragnarok will repeat itself,

http://blogs.amctv.com/the_prisoner_1967-68_episode_photos/90-prisoner-patrick-m\
cgoohan-eps17.php


Marc Fluks

#2659 From: "Steffen Meyer" <greencard_travel@...>
Date: Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:33 am
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks Fest 2009
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take a look at The Giant, Lucy & Betty Briggs:


Twin Peaks Festival: celebrity Q&A part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNOCb97QHp4

Twin Peaks Festival: celebrity Q&A part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TKw2bIjjcM

Twin Peaks festival: celebrity Q&A part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM99cUDluLQ


> Thank you for passing this on and I too wish I lived closer.

> http://www.twinpeaksfest.com

#2658 From: Samantha <rayvenred1@...>
Date: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:07 am
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks Fest 2009
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Thank you for passing this on and I too wish I lived closer.
--- On Tue, 7/21/09, Steffen Meyer <greencard_travel@...> wrote:

From: Steffen Meyer <greencard_travel@...>
Subject: [twinpeaks] Twin Peaks Fest 2009
To: twinpeaks@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 5:40 PM

It's happening again.
http://www.twinpeaksfest.com

this upcoming weekend...
line-up includes The Giant, Lucy & Betty Briggs...

I went there in 2000,
not wanting to pay $200 cover charge
I still managed to go to all outdoor events....

Friday sign up in North Bend,
Free coffee, donuts & the schedule,
the address is on the website...

Saturday bus tour to see filming locations:
just drove behind the bus with my rental car...

Sunday morning at Kiana Lodge on Bainbridge Island
& afternoon Picnic at Llama Farm near Paulsbo,
it was all open, no problem...

met Big Ed & The Log Lady...
very interesting weekend...

I would go again if I lived close by...
Steffen, CA.

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Truman: You saw a giant?
Cooper: Yes.
Albert: Any relation to the dwarf?





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#2657 From: pauline kabe <squirrlegirl@...>
Date: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:52 pm
Subject: RE: RE: Twin Peaks decoded (2)
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Fluks,
 
This movie bases quantum physics to spirituality.  You'd have to see it I guess before poo-pooing it.
 
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Quoting Pauline Kabe <squirrlegirl@hotmail.com>:
> The movie "What the Bleep do we Know" focuses on quatum physics and
> relates this to 'higher power' or God.

It does ring a bell (somewhere) but that's all.

Quantum mechanics is just a set of equations. Complementarity isn't alchemy,
quantum theory isn't related to religion at all.

I am aware of that Niels Bohr had the Dead Dog (the Yin-Yang thing) as a logo
in his letters. He should not have done that.

Marc Fluks




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#2656 From: "Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks" <fluks@...>
Date: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:46 pm
Subject: RE: Twin Peaks decoded (2)
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Quoting Pauline Kabe <squirrlegirl@...>:
> The movie "What the Bleep do we Know" focuses on quatum physics and
> relates this to 'higher power' or God.

   It does ring a bell (somewhere) but that's all.

   Quantum mechanics is just a set of equations. Complementarity isn't alchemy,
   quantum theory isn't related to religion at all.

   I am aware of that Niels Bohr had the Dead Dog (the Yin-Yang thing) as a logo
   in his letters. He should not have done that.


   Marc Fluks

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