hi, i am also a new member. It's been awhile since i last watched
twin peaks, i used to always watch it during the 90s. So reading
these posts will help refresh my memory on particular scences.
Screenersamb, i agree with ur last comment - "I think WE played his
vicious 'game' until it caught up with him". Although the ending
was confusing, i believed that evil or devil caught up with him in
the end, and his desire to find the truth. Similiar to that of a
mad scientist, who makes too involved with his/her research.
In twinpeaks@yahoogroups.com, "screenersamb" <screenersamb@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> (I just joined the group, hence the belated response); I guess
we'd
> have found out in Season 3. I never got to see S2 (just read the
> summaries, etc); got the impression that WE was in over his head
wi
> Bob/Black Lodge (sort of like the end of 'Frighteners', when the
two
> baddies get taken away by the bigger baddie). any system that
> demands perfection, i.e. complete fearlessness, isn't going to
find
> much acceptable (ever see the Star Trek episode 'Specter of the
Gun'?
> Spock has to hypnotize the guys to remove all their doubts). I
> certainly don't think SA Cooper would be trapped in the place for
25
> years. As far as WE's agenda, he was 'evil', and destroyed etc.
for
> the heck of it. the Biblical definition of evil is the adversary
who
> comes to 'kill, steal and destroy', which means taking life,
taking
> property, and ruining what it can't carry away, i.e. 'if I can't
have
> it neither can you, neener neener'. Evil just does mean/bad
things
> by its nature. I think WE played his vicious 'game' until it
caught
> up with him.
>
>
> --- In twinpeaks@yahoogroups.com, "hermitage171"
<hermitage171@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > What happened in the Red Room, in the last episode? I don't
> > even know if the writers had a perfectly clear idea, but it's
fun
> to
> > theorize about it.
> > What happened to Windom Earle? Why did he try to take Dale's
> > soul, and why did he fail?
> > I think that the answer to the first question is, he was
> > trying to become more powerful. In fact, I think that was the
> reason
> > for all the murders that he committed in the second season,
killing
> > the various anonymous people... he wasn't trying to draw out
Dale
> as
> > much as he was trying to gain power as a black magician, through
> the
> > practice of killing, destroying, refining his evilness. I think
> that
> > there are various existing black magic ideologies which present
> this
> > idea: the magician gains black power by committing evil deeds
such
> > as senseless murder. Windom's ambition was to become an
extremely
> > powerful black magician.
> > So, I think that if he had been able to actually swallow up
> > Dale's soul, it would have made him much more powerful, since
Dale
> > was very powerful in terms of good, and corrupting-destroying-
> > coopting him would be an extraordinary evil accomplishment.
> However,
> > I think that he messed it up. I think that the fact that Dale
> > offered his soul out of love, to save someone, meant that Windom
> > could not gain black power by taking it, and in fact could not
take
> > it for black purposes at all. The fact that he tried to take it
> > nonetheless led to his collapse. His evil intentions choked on
the
> > purity of Dale's soul, and he was forced to spit it back out.
> > This is not an unusual interpretation, but consider what
> > happens next. Bob appears, announces his intention to take
Windom's
> > soul, and tells Dale to leave. Dale allows Bob to take Windom's
> > soul, and he does leave. WHAT IF THIS IS HIS MISTAKE? Consider
that
> > it is exactly at this point that Dale's shadow self appears, and
> > laughs with Bob. WHAT IF DALE COOPER WAS SUPPOSED TO TRY TO SAVE
> > WINDOM EARLE?
> > Think about it. Windom was Dale's old partner, who taught
> > him everything he knew about law enforcement. There must have
been
> > some kind of bond between them. And now Dale stands by and
watches
> > as Bob tears Windom's soul out of his body and devours it. Bob
> tells
> > him to go, to get out of the way, and he obliges. He didn't try
to
> > stop Bob, didn't try to save Windom. I think that this is his
break
> > with "perfect courage" and perfect love. Perfect love is not
only
> to
> > love Annie, and to want to save her, but to want to save Windom
as
> > well, to redeem him. This is the ultimate test of love, to love
> your
> > enemy. But Dale gives in to his fear of Windom and his fear of
Bob,
> > as well as perhaps his desire for retribution against Windom,
> > retribution for killing Caroline, capturing Annie, etc. So, Dale
> > acts in passive compliance to the Bob, when active resistance is
> > necessary. And I think that this tiny break with perfect courage
is
> > enough, not for his soul to be obliterated, but enough for it to
be
> > detained in the lodge.
> >
> > James Green-Armytage