The new Space: 1999 forum is quickly becoming the best place on the net for
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I posted this on the AlphaOnline group, but I'll post it here as well. It's a pretty cool "radio play" sequel to Space 1999 about the "Seeker", a ship sent out to bring the Alphans home. It is episode one, so it tells the back story. Hope you enjoy it!
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
Back at you Linda and everyone here!! Happy Breakaway day...I know, I'm a bit late, but we've been out all day. I'm going to watch Breakaway tonight though. :)
God Bless, Arlette & Cocoa in heaven
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
For group members who are on Facebook - if you are an admirer of actor and director Barry Morse, you are cordially
invited to become a fan of the "Barry Morse" page. It's located at:
Happy Breakaway, fellow Alphans!
Ten years in space, where did the time go?
Apparently it's the "Tin" or "Aluminum" anniversary. lol Not so glam, but I'm
sure the Alphans could some somewhere. ;)
Also 10 years since B'way Con in LA where I held hands with my new friend, Mike,
at a seance with some shaking shrubbery! Who knew we'd still be friends all
these years later!
I met so many of you at that con! What a great time at subsequent cons! B'way
was a magical time for me in so many ways! Although some of my Alphan dearest
pals I didn't meet there, but got to know online shortly afterward, they have
played a significant part in my life and I couldn't imagine life without them!
And since that time, so many more Alphan friends!!
Ok, so before I wax TOTALLY sentimental, just a reminder:
Do
Be there, or be stuck in Bannockburn +25!
Linda
The magazine "Mad Scientist" has a feature article on Space: 1999 in their
current (Spring 2009) issue, #19.
Further information, as well as online ordering, can be found here:
http://www.geocities.com/madscie/madscientist.html
Thanks for the pre-order David! The book is on schedule for release
this fall - I'll keep everyone updated. And news, as it happens, is
updated on my www.destinationmoonbasealpha.net site.
I'm really looking forward to the Con next year in Austin - there are
a couple of announcements which will be made in the near future (after
the details are confirmed) which I think everyone will be very excited
about. I hope that lots of people reading the messages on this list
are considering attending - we always have a fantastic time!
Arlette mentioned the big Barry book that I put together with the help
of Anthony Wynn -- it's a coffee-table book of photos, quotes,
reviews, etc... from throughout Barry's career. It is not available
publicly - you have to join the Barry Morse mailing list, or be
invited to purchase it.
Robert
Ahh, so it's only a year to go...thanks for the heads up Dave :)
I'm still waiting for Roberts new book, but I've been slowly digesting the smorgasbord of Barry's big book...it's really wonderful!
God Bless, Arlette
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
Hope to see everyone in Austin for the Journey to Where Con. 365 days to go.
In the meantime, while we wait, we can read Robert Wood's new book. I just
ordered mine tonight.
David
Thanks Janet and Arlette for the pre-orders!
Yes, if you've ordered from the publisher (which I think is the only way to
pre-order at the moment), the book will be coming from the UK directly....
Some of the quotes will be the same as from the earlier book, but others are
different and you will never have seen them anywhere before!
And yes, the section regarding Barry's departure from Space: 1999 reveals
information no one has ever heard before!
Thanks again,
Robert
--- In space1999con@yahoogroups.com, JANET SYVRET <janetsyvret@...> wrote:
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> thanks Robert...just bought a copy...looking forward to a smashing read! the
Future is fantastic was GREAT!...LOVED the quotes from my fav stars...just dying
to find out what Barry morse had to say about Space 99!! The book is pretty
cheap!.....get on board people!!
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> janet syvret
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> --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Robert Wood <woodre@...> wrote:
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> From: Robert Wood <woodre@...>
> Subject: [space1999con] Pre-Orders Available for "Destination: Moonbase Alpha"
book!
> To: space1999con@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, June 15, 2009, 10:29 AM
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> Ordering information is now online, and pre-orders are being taken by the
publisher for "Destination: Moonbase Alpha - The Unofficial and Unauthorised
Guide to SPACE: 1999"! Go to www.telos.co. uk and click on the "Cult TV and
Film" button in the upper left of the page.
>
> You can also visit www.destinationmoon basealpha. net for all the information
on this book, and news updates as they happen.
>
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
thanks Robert...just bought a copy...looking forward to a smashing read! the Future is fantastic was GREAT!...LOVED the quotes from my fav stars...just dying to find out what Barry morse had to say about Space 99!! The book is pretty cheap!.....get on board people!!
janet syvret
--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Robert Wood <woodre@...> wrote:
From: Robert Wood <woodre@...> Subject: [space1999con] Pre-Orders Available for "Destination: Moonbase Alpha" book! To: space1999con@yahoogroups.com Received: Monday, June 15, 2009, 10:29 AM
Ordering information is now online, and pre-orders are being taken by the publisher for "Destination: Moonbase Alpha - The Unofficial and Unauthorised Guide to SPACE: 1999"! Go to www.telos.co. uk and click on the "Cult TV and Film" button in the upper left of the page.
You can also visit www.destinationmoon basealpha. net for all the information on this book, and news updates as they happen.
Ordering information is now online, and pre-orders are being taken by the
publisher for "Destination: Moonbase Alpha - The Unofficial and Unauthorised
Guide to SPACE: 1999"! Go to www.telos.co.uk and click on the "Cult TV and Film"
button in the upper left of the page.
You can also visit www.destinationmoonbasealpha.net for all the information on
this book, and news updates as they happen.
I can see what you mean; to hear people talk about it or look at the photos, it doesn't seem that it was so long ago...ten years can go by fast, hmm, come to think of it, life goes by fast...LOL
God Bless, Arlette & Cocoa in heaven
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
...since Breakaway Convention! I think about this and that --little tiny details-- around that trip and it feels like it was at most a few months ago!
1999 just doesn't seem that far back. When I hear of something that happened in 1999 I think "yesterday" then I have to remind myself, nooo, that's back around B'way!
As *other* things fade into the past and I don't pay to much attention to the details of *when*, I find myself thinking, "before Breakaway, or after Breakaway"!
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
>...I noticed that the Gerry Anderson series UFO is being made into a movie
That's very cool Jan! Interesting.......
God Bless, Arlette & Cocoa in heaven
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
I was looking around at the Cannes festival events..(.looking to see if Martin Landau would be there....actually!!)...anyway...I noticed that the Gerry Anderson series UFO is being made into a movie....thought that pretty much ties into what we all have been saying...thought I'd pass that on!...And back to what Anthony was saying...Space wasn't picked up for that ever glorius third season.....shows are more or less guaranteed syndication with 3 seasons....that is probably the main reason it is not on tv today....keep collective fingers crossed...you just never know though!!!...jan
janet syvret
--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Michael Taylor <michaeltaylor1329@...> wrote:
From: Michael Taylor <michaeltaylor1329@...> Subject: [space1999con] Re: Where's our new version of Space:1999? To: space1999con@yahoogroups.com Received: Monday, May 25, 2009, 3:55 PM
> Been thinking since I first posted this question... I think the biggest reasons we haven't seen this is that unlike with BSG, we have no one in a respected position working in Hollywood advocating for a new version of it either as a series or a movie. >
I dont think that's it at all.
Hollywood is ALWAYS looking for 'garanteed' box office success. And the most likely garantee of box office sucess is "Name recognition" .
McHale's Navy was made into a movie. Not because it was popular or there was a pent-up demand for a movie, but because the name was known by ANYONE, no matter how small, it has a better chance of being financially successful than a new script - no matter how good - that no one has heard of before.
There is a spate of movies that are going to be made about BOARD GAMES. Candyland is in development as a movie! Again, because of name recognition.
TV Shows from
england that no one has every heard of are being made into movies and TV show in Hollywood because of name recognition.
My point is that no matter HOW obscure the property, if you have SOME name recognition, you WILL get made into a movie.
As soon as there is a solid SCRIPT.
>>>Richard Hatch (the old BSG show's Apollo character) lobbied for years after the original show's demise for a new version of BSG. It took about 20 years for that to finally happen. On top of that, Hatch was willing to do a whole lot of the work himself as well as finance a lot of up-front costs. >>>
PS: For all Richard Hatch's efforts, he had ZERO to do with getting Battlestar Galactica remade. In fact, he *famously* had nothing to do with it and his input on it was unwanted. They worked it out later, but the new Battlestar Galactica was the result of...you guessed it, a project that had Name
Recognition AND a good starting script.
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>Hollywood is ALWAYS looking for 'guaranteed box office success. And the most likely guarantee of box office success is "Name recognition".
I would have to agree, that is why I said have S99 running on TV for a while to spark people's memories and also develop a new fan following. It's one of the few space series that was shown in North America, not just the UK, that hasn't been revisited at all in reruns.
God Bless, Arlette & Cocoa in heaven
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
> Been thinking since I first posted this question... I think the biggest reasons we haven't seen this is that unlike with BSG, we have no one in a respected position working in Hollywood advocating for a new version of it either as a series or a movie.
>
I dont think that's it at all.
Hollywood is ALWAYS looking for 'garanteed' box office success. And the most likely garantee of box office sucess is "Name recognition".
McHale's Navy was made into a movie. Not because it was popular or there was a pent-up demand for a movie, but because the name was known by ANYONE, no matter how small, it has a better chance of being financially successful than a new script - no matter how good - that no one has heard of before.
There is a spate of movies that are going to be made about BOARD GAMES. Candyland is in development as a movie! Again, because of name recognition.
TV Shows from england that no one has every heard of are being made into movies and TV show in Hollywood because of name recognition.
My point is that no matter HOW obscure the property, if you have SOME name recognition, you WILL get made into a movie.
As soon as there is a solid SCRIPT.
>>>Richard Hatch (the old BSG show's Apollo character) lobbied for years after the original show's demise for a new version of BSG. It took about 20 years for that to finally happen. On top of that, Hatch was willing to do a whole lot of the work himself as well as finance a lot of up-front costs.
>>>
PS: For all Richard Hatch's efforts, he had ZERO to do with getting Battlestar Galactica remade. In fact, he *famously* had nothing to do with it and his input on it was unwanted. They worked it out later, but the new Battlestar Galactica was the result of...you guessed it, a project that had Name Recognition AND a good starting script.
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>> Ahh, Speed Racer LOL > > I did watch the cartoon as a kid, but that was a looooong time ago. Perhaps it being way more popular in Japan gave it enough momentum?? But yeah, who would have remembered it to make a movie out of it? Obviously someone's indulgence :) >
Speed Racer has been in development to be a movie since 1992. Both Johnny Depp and Tom Cruise were set to play Speed Racer at various times.
So I dont think it was quite "someone's indulgence".
There are many reasons a production can fall apart. But a solid script is what puts films on the fast track to production.
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Been thinking since I first posted this question... I think the biggest reasons we haven't seen this is that unlike with BSG, we have no one in a respected position working in Hollywood advocating for a new version of it either as a series or a movie. [I suppose this should come as no surprise since Space was filmed in the UK by a production company that is now out of business.] Richard Hatch (the old BSG show's Apollo character) lobbied for years after the original show's demise for a new version of BSG. It took about 20 years for that to finally happen. On top of that, Hatch was willing to do a whole lot of the work himself as well as finance a lot of up-front costs. He believed in the concept but felt that it had simply not been implemented correctly to turn it into a popular show, especially given the network censors' standards at the time. For example, the Cassiopeia character, a medical technician, was originally conceived as a 'socialator', ie, a prostitute. However the network nixed that since this was supposed to be a 'family show'. The thing they failed to see was that families were not the target audience for sci-fi-- single young men were the target audience and that didn't change in their concepts of target audience to include women, married people, and damn near everyone else, too, until 10 years later. (why, I dunno. The biggest Trek fans I ever met were always girls, despite the stereotype that they're mostly single girlfriend-less nerdy boys). Likewise the old Starbuck character was always reined in when it came to the script by the network people. Dirk Benedict knew exactly how to play Starbuck but the execs wouldn't let him. He used to get into all kinds of trouble for shooting scenes with a cigar despite having been told in person by Glen Larson not to use cigars in any of his scenes. Nonetheless he was the most popular character on the show, judging by fan mail quantity. Still, the network was not getting it. It took them 20 years to finally get the starch out of their shorts and actually allow the show to be filmed the way it ought to have been the first time.
So back to Space:1999. We have no moneyed advocate for it in Hollywood and it never saw prime time anyway the way BSG did. Those are the two biggest roadblocks to us seeing any studio run with the latter-day Space:1999 ball. They're big ones, too.
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Well, all we need is a really good script! Hey Tony and Robert...get writing!!! :)
God Bless, Arlette & Cocoa in heaven
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
Arlette you are too funny girl! I'll take the compliments though! It would be kind of neat to see our fav characters now...and how they survived...I can just see a little Maya/Tony offspring!!
janet syvret
--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Arlette Hunnakko <mail@...> wrote:
From: Arlette Hunnakko <mail@...> Subject: Re: [space1999con] Re: Where's our new version of Space:1999? To: space1999con@yahoogroups.com Received: Friday, May 22, 2009, 6:03 PM
One show that has come to mind which has basically ignored the science part of sci-fi is "Firefly". They don't tell and we don't ask, at least that's how I remember it. The show is centred on the characters, situations and storyline. I loved that show...another TV casualty. I don't think a new S99 should ignore the science altogether, but I don't really need it all explained to me as obsessively as it is on Star Trek.
To me S99 is a wealth of potential that barely got the surface scratched. All the characters we knew little about: their pasts, futures, hopes and dreams; their daily lives. A new movie could possibly be about how they and/or their offspring survived, perhaps integrating some alien technology into their own to make the moon more liveable while they still search for hospitable planets. Ohhh, I can just taste IT!! I just KNOW it's doable and would be awesome.
JAN!! Become a great movie maker and do the thing already!! LOL :)
God Bless, Arlette & Cocoa in heaven
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
One show that has come to mind which has basically ignored the science part of sci-fi is "Firefly". They don't tell and we don't ask, at least that's how I remember it. The show is centred on the characters, situations and storyline. I loved that show...another TV casualty. I don't think a new S99 should ignore the science altogether, but I don't really need it all explained to me as obsessively as it is on Star Trek.
To me S99 is a wealth of potential that barely got the surface scratched. All the characters we knew little about: their pasts, futures, hopes and dreams; their daily lives. A new movie could possibly be about how they and/or their offspring survived, perhaps integrating some alien technology into their own to make the moon more liveable while they still search for hospitable planets. Ohhh, I can just taste IT!! I just KNOW it's doable and would be awesome.
JAN!! Become a great movie maker and do the thing already!! LOL :)
God Bless, Arlette & Cocoa in heaven
Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. John 1:12-13
I was never too concerned about the science in 1999. The Eagles, Moonbase and Alphan technology was very realistic. The runaway Moon was a little different. I just went by the assumption that after Black Sun, Alpha was in a different part of space where planetary systems were closer together and thus, they could travel between systems quicker.
And that was reasoning I used on my friends who thought it was ridiculous!
As for trying to compare Star Trek and Space:1999, I don't even try. I enjoy them both, as well as Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica and of course, Doctor Who.
I wasn't saying I agreed with Hollywood. I was just making an observation. Big screen sci-fi these days is limited to things we can imagine as being possible someday through advanced technology. The moonbase in Space:1999 has very little technology beyond what already exists and yet manages rapid interstellar travel with a decent amount of time spent near other systems.
Obviously as a ninety-nine-iac I'm able to accept the liberties taken with physics in service of the stories. I just think that to attract production money in the current climate any new script would have to conform to physical laws better or introduce some new element that lets the Alphans modify their moon's trajectory and velocity, like maybe they could rig up a way to set off controlled explosions in that reactor dump? If they could do that though why wouldn't they just drive the thing back into Earth orbit where it belongs?
Maybe we'd have to use that old Star Trek saw; the wormhole. Can't reasonably explain how the starship got where the story needs it to be? It was a wormhole...
8>/ David W
----- Original Message ----- From: "bramdave" <dkach@hotmail.com> To: <space1999con@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: [space1999con] Re: Where's our new version of Space:1999?
> Well said Arlette. > > I too have reached the proverbial brick wall of having sci-fi being > poo-poo'd by "that's not scientifically accurate". So instead, everyone > over the last few decades have gone out of their way to find a scientific > reason for something happening using technobabble like its an actual fact. > That's not to say I disagree with the move....its just that we gotten far > more involved in the science and forgetting that the other word is > "fiction". > > I don't really care to learn the engine drive of the Enterprise or figure > out how the moon can see so many planets in one's life time. One might say > that the first season of 1999 replaced technobabble with metaphysical and > religious influences showing us that there is a lot to our universe we > simply don't know. For sure that is a different thing to think about and > places the show into a completely new category. > > I became a fan of 1999 and remain one due to its characters, its visual > appeal and its entertainment value. I find it more deeper - but subtle > compared to today's "hit you over the head" approach - than I remember it. > Sure the science is wonky but didn't we all think the moon being blasted > out of orbit as being the most spectacular thing we ever saw? We must have > suspended our belief as we became fans of the show over time. I also like > the fact that the characters are flawed and make mistakes and are > generally winging it as they are being faced with new situations. > > So while its nice to see a new revitalized Trek I must admit I like > revisiting 1999 for what its not. > > David > Just thinking a tought once every thousand of your years! LOL! >
I wasn't saying I agreed with Hollywood. I was just making an observation. Big screen sci-fi these days is limited to things we can imagine as being possible someday through advanced technology. The moonbase in Space:1999 has very little technology beyond what already exists and yet manages rapid interstellar travel with a decent amount of time spent near other systems.
Obviously as a ninety-nine-iac I'm able to accept the liberties taken with physics in service of the stories. I just think that to attract production money in the current climate any new script would have to conform to physical laws better or introduce some new element that lets the Alphans modify their moon's trajectory and velocity, like maybe they could rig up a way to set off controlled explosions in that reactor dump? If they could do that though why wouldn't they just drive the thing back into Earth orbit where it belongs?
Maybe we'd have to use that old Star Trek saw; the wormhole. Can't reasonably explain how the starship got where the story needs it to be? It was a wormhole...
8>/ David W
----- Original Message ----- From: "bramdave" <dkach@hotmail.com> To: <space1999con@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: [space1999con] Re: Where's our new version of Space:1999?
> Well said Arlette. > > I too have reached the proverbial brick wall of having sci-fi being > poo-poo'd by "that's not scientifically accurate". So instead, everyone > over the last few decades have gone out of their way to find a scientific > reason for something happening using technobabble like its an actual fact. > That's not to say I disagree with the move....its just that we gotten far > more involved in the science and forgetting that the other word is > "fiction". > > I don't really care to learn the engine drive of the Enterprise or figure > out how the moon can see so many planets in one's life time. One might say > that the first season of 1999 replaced technobabble with metaphysical and > religious influences showing us that there is a lot to our universe we > simply don't know. For sure that is a different thing to think about and > places the show into a completely new category. > > I became a fan of 1999 and remain one due to its characters, its visual > appeal and its entertainment value. I find it more deeper - but subtle > compared to today's "hit you over the head" approach - than I remember it. > Sure the science is wonky but didn't we all think the moon being blasted > out of orbit as being the most spectacular thing we ever saw? We must have > suspended our belief as we became fans of the show over time. I also like > the fact that the characters are flawed and make mistakes and are > generally winging it as they are being faced with new situations. > > So while its nice to see a new revitalized Trek I must admit I like > revisiting 1999 for what its not. > > David > Just thinking a tought once every thousand of your years! LOL! >