Due to a lack of time (I'm already borderline walking Zombie) I can't
have that important function.
Skrzat
patiently waiting for the weekend to store sleep hours for the future

I think the first thing we need to do is get a head
writer/facilitator/producer/whatever you want to call it. Someone to
organize the writing team(s). Any volunteers?

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Thank you for posting that site. I looked at "Like a Sunday in Salem".
When I start a script  my tratment/outline looks like.
Skrzat

> If they are pronounced guilty the audience will be shocked and
> outraged. It could be our hook. Then, because it is a time of war the
> 58th's sentance could realistically be some kind of disciplinary
> probation. Or you could strip them of their rank.

I have asked about it before and I was told that it's not being done
even during the war time.

> Cooper's sentance to the military will probably be extended. But the
> military would leave them in a battle intensive position because it
> doesn't have the trained personel to replace them.

That's my point exactly.

> As a side note, They have probably gained some big enemies and they
> will probably be ordered into some sticky situations without being
> given thurough briefings.

I just said that!

> As to meeting times- noon west coast time is the best time for me to
> meet.

For me the best time is 6-10 PM EST and unfortunatelly that's the same
time when i work with my writing.
Skrzat

> As for the special effects -- heh.  We don't have to worry a limited
> budget
> for CGI or pyrotechnics.  And we don't have to pay the guest stars,
> either!

That's good, I always blow up a lot of things.

> Which brings me to another idea I had.  When developing guest parts, I
> think
> we should give some thought to the actor we'd cast in the role.  It
> plays
> into the whole "TV script" feel that we're trying to create, and it
> will
> give the writers a good starting point for the character.

Can I cast myself, as a mysterious officer involved, I meant stranded
with McQueen on an alien planet with no hopes for rescue?
A while back there was a whole discussion about guest actors. My vote
Malcolm
McDowell ( I think that's how it's spelled) as McQueen's brother that
doesn't won't to reminded about being a Tank. and to spark attention in
Star Trek fans and Babylon 5 fans to bring up someone from that series
like Claudia Christian. I'm not familiar with ST to bring names.
Skrzat

> I think some of those entries came from conversations Pat had with
> Morgan
> and Wong, so if they aren't canon they're the next thing to it.
> Someone's
> already mentioned about following the plans that M&W had for the
> second
> season and I think that's a good idea.  Especially, they planned to
> split
> the story between the Wildcards in space and McQueen back on Earth.

I already have parts about Col. being at the hospital after getting
cybernetic leg (my timeline - from what happened on saratoga to
Thanksgiving 2064), getting therapy and leaving hospital.

> Thatwould help us out, because once we get the basic plot ironed out,
> we could
> have different people writing each section.

What I was planning to write:- McQueen is in charge of observing the
secret squadron that belong to Aero-Tech ( they test experimental
weapons for A-T), he has an experimental implant that allows him to fly,
but he's not aware of it, from that squadron only one person survives
and unwillingly joins the Wang's empty spot ( this is in my script)
- Wild Cards get a new commanding officer female major that doesn't give
a crab about them only is trying to advance in her carrier using famous
58th.
- Saratoga is a spaceship in the separate area, her objective finding a
mining source of Sewel Fuel.
- Wild Cards have to get back from the Chig's hands a hill/mountain, not
knowing that there is an  entrance to the SF mine on the top. (based on
Vietnam War events)
- Wild cards have to defend a undefendable place, that is a secret
storage for SF, to avoid capture they have to let one of them be taken
prisoner. (loosely based on 1939 fights over Westerplatte peninsula)
- Saratoga needs to get to Moon base to get new guns, the old ones were
damaged in the fierce fight, Wild Cards get a free time, Cooper gets
invited to a Tank family, all Wild Cards go there to visit him and help
during the mountain rescue (OK, I know it's a stretch, but that line
follows the treads in my script, and it's something different, alittle
bit of human behavior)
Skrzat

> Heh.  I'm glad someone writes scripts!  I've never done that.  I did
> read a
> pretty good book on how to do it, though, by JMS -

This is the best book about script writing I have read so far, the least
confusing.  I really recommend it. My copy is already falling apart.
That's how I started, my first script was a 2 parter for Babylon 5.

> - the Babylon 5 guy, just
> please don't ask me how to spell his name.

Straczynski. It looks like Polish, but I never heard anything about him
being one with Polish ancestry. I only know how to pronounce his last
name Polish way.Skrzat

Welcome!!!! We can always use idea people and beta readers.

A virtual season is a season run totally on-line. Fans have been doing
that for years but Phoenix Virtual Television is the first on-line
"station" and they have accepted doing S:AAB as a series of movies.
Hopefully, we can work it into a regular series once again.

THE WILD HUNT is at:
http://www.sff.net/people/rayhne/personal/rayhne.htm

HEART AND SOUL is currently off line but may be returning soon.

Days to meet does mean on-line chatting.

Hi
My name is Angela Miles-Zaidi and I heard about this group through the
James Morrison Discussion Group.I would very much like to join.  I have
to admit that I have no writing skills--the closet that I come is
helping to write the grade 7 play for Christmas--way back in the days
when Christmas was celibrated in schools  and I was in grade 7 .  Since
then the only writing I have done is the occational letter to my
Grandmother--.  However I do love Space; Above and Beyond.
I have read the past 18 letters/posts and am very interested--but being
a non computer person can I ask some questions--such as what is a
vertual season
movie?   Where can I find The wild hunt and Heart and Soul--they sound
very interesting and I would like to read them ?  When  people write
'Days what you might be able to meet " it this a chat line ..thing..?
What is <beg>?
I think that it is the good idea to follow what Margan and Wong wanted
for the second season; ( although I did enjoy Wang - I think that he
added a touch of comedy, and a very little bit of me wishes that
Windlow could be brought back , as I think that she added a bit of
....naughtyness...?) but I am certain that W & M know best. I also
think is would be a very good idea to write a time line--a type of
skeleton of what and why and where the writing would be going.
Angela Miles-Zaidi
mszaidi@...
p. s.
what do "uses HTML" and "wrap words mean?
sorry
Anj

Everyone remain calm, I'm here to help. My appearence may have
inspired irrational panic but I assure you, really, "George, just here
to help!" I definetly like the idea of a court trial. In the military
everything is by the book. If we deviate by letting the 58th
mysteriously slip by we would be breaking a universal law that governs
the character's reality. That does not mean that the trial itself will
be straight forward. I forsee the whole government\alien conspiracy
issue become even more prevalent and mysterious through the progress of
the trial. On top of it all there is no good reason that they will be
aquitted. If they are pronounced guilty the audience will be shocked
and outraged. It could be our hook. Then, because it is a time of war
the 58th's sentance could realistically be some kind of disciplinary
probation. Or you could strip them of their rank. Cooper's sentance to
the military will probably be extended. But the military would leave
them in a battle intensive position because it doesn't have the trained
personel to replace them. As a side note, They have probably gained
some big enemies and they will probably be ordered into some sticky
situations without being given thurough briefings.

As to meeting times- noon west coast time is the best time for me to
meet.
-Chris

I know it, Rayhne, I was just pulling your leg.  :)

You got to admit, though, you did sort of stick your ankle out there where I
could get hold of it easily.  :)

Seriously, though, S:AAB was squeaky-clean compared to a lot of evening
programming.  Adult themes were handled with a great deal of restraint, yet
without sugar-coating anything.  When we did see violence on screen, it had
an impact because it wasn't over-used.  The same thing was true of sexual
themes.  Look at R&R.  It wasn't necessary to show Paul and Vanessa's
rendezvous to get the point across.  For that matter, Cooper and the lady of
the evening had their clothes on while the camera was pointed at them.  I
don't think we should have any trouble staying within the TV-14 range.  It
isn't a matter of what we present, but rather, how we present it.

As for the special effects -- heh.  We don't have to worry a limited budget
for CGI or pyrotechnics.  And we don't have to pay the guest stars, either!
:)

Which brings me to another idea I had.  When developing guest parts, I think
we should give some thought to the actor we'd cast in the role.  It plays
into the whole "TV script" feel that we're trying to create, and it will
give the writers a good starting point for the character.

RiverRat ~~ sratliff@... ~~ http://www.zoomnet.net/~sratliff/

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Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 12:40 PM
Subject: [saab-tvs] Re: Premise


> I sent PVT an update on what's going on and an inquiry about how far we
> can go. Actually, I think we should keep the episodes within the TV-14
> range....we want to attract readers of all ages. What I meant about
> doing things that wouldn't work on tv is that we're not hampered by
> budget and don't have to worry about special effects.
>
> "riverrat" <sratlif-@...> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/saab-tvs/?start=17
> > > I wondered about that and I'm all for following canon. I'm even more
> > > for splitting the writing teams. And as a virtual series, we can do
> > > things that would never work or be seen on tv....
> > >
> >
> > ROFL!  Maybe we'd better run that one by the PVT folks first....
> Don't want
> > to give our friendly neighborhood network execs a heart attack.  <beg>
> >
> > RiverRat ~~ sratliff@... ~~ http://www.zoomnet.net/~sratliff/
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I sent PVT an update on what's going on and an inquiry about how far we
can go. Actually, I think we should keep the episodes within the TV-14
range....we want to attract readers of all ages. What I meant about
doing things that wouldn't work on tv is that we're not hampered by
budget and don't have to worry about special effects.

"riverrat" <sratlif-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/saab-tvs/?start=17
> > I wondered about that and I'm all for following canon. I'm even more
> > for splitting the writing teams. And as a virtual series, we can do
> > things that would never work or be seen on tv....
> >
>
> ROFL!  Maybe we'd better run that one by the PVT folks first....
Don't want
> to give our friendly neighborhood network execs a heart attack.  <beg>
>
> RiverRat ~~ sratliff@... ~~ http://www.zoomnet.net/~sratliff/
>

> I wondered about that and I'm all for following canon. I'm even more
> for splitting the writing teams. And as a virtual series, we can do
> things that would never work or be seen on tv....
>

ROFL!  Maybe we'd better run that one by the PVT folks first....  Don't want
to give our friendly neighborhood network execs a heart attack.  <beg>

RiverRat ~~ sratliff@... ~~ http://www.zoomnet.net/~sratliff/

"riverrat" <sratlif-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/saab-tvs/?start=14
> I think some of those entries came from conversations Pat had with
Morgan
> and Wong, so if they aren't canon they're the next thing to it.
Someone's
> already mentioned about following the plans that M&W had for the
second
> season and I think that's a good idea.  Especially, they planned to
split
> the story between the Wildcards in space and McQueen back on Earth.
That
> would help us out, because once we get the basic plot ironed out, we
could
> have different people writing each section.
>
> RiverRat ~~ sratliff@... ~~ http://www.zoomnet.net/~sratliff/
>

I wondered about that and I'm all for following canon. I'm even more
for splitting the writing teams. And as a virtual series, we can do
things that would never work or be seen on tv....

> > Actually, I think we want to do this as scripts...for now, movie
> > scripts.
>
> When you'll know more about premise of the 2nd season please let me
> know. Or when we're going to have discussion in which direction the show
> is going to move. should I start submitting an ideas?Skrzat
>

Heh.  I'm glad someone writes scripts!  I've never done that.  I did read a
pretty good book on how to do it, though, by JMS -- the Babylon 5 guy, just
please don't ask me how to spell his name.  It was at the library.

RiverRat ~~ sratliff@... ~~ http://www.zoomnet.net/~sratliff/

> I've sent Kate an email asking her about that. There are, however, some
> aspect appearing in the timeline that I don't think ever appeared in
> the series so we may have to do some editing.

I think some of those entries came from conversations Pat had with Morgan
and Wong, so if they aren't canon they're the next thing to it.  Someone's
already mentioned about following the plans that M&W had for the second
season and I think that's a good idea.  Especially, they planned to split
the story between the Wildcards in space and McQueen back on Earth.  That
would help us out, because once we get the basic plot ironed out, we could
have different people writing each section.

RiverRat ~~ sratliff@... ~~ http://www.zoomnet.net/~sratliff/

I've sent Kate an email asking her about that. There are, however, some
aspect appearing in the timeline that I don't think ever appeared in
the series so we may have to do some editing.

> I think the first thing we need to do is establish where this second
> season will go. Who survives, who returns, what new characters come in,
> etc, etc and work from there. I also would like to provide, on the
> SAAB:TVS page, a timeline, character listing, and first season guide.
> Anyone up to helping me with that?

Most of this already exists at Mission Status.  Do you know if Pat Moss is
still site admin there, or did he pass those duties to Kate and/or Jane as
well?  Would it be possible to get permission to use that data at least as a
starting point so we don't have to completely reinvent the wheel?

As for the first season guide, a lot of the photoessays have been completed.
May I suggest that we write a short one or two paragraph description of each
episode, and link that page to the photoessay ring?

RiverRat ~~ sratliff@... ~~ http://www.zoomnet.net/~sratliff/

Please submit ideas. And please, everyone, post days you might be able
to meet. Also, if you have characters list, timelines, etc, feel free
to post them and we will combine them for posting on the webpage.

> Actually, I think we want to do this as scripts...for now, movie
> scripts.

When you'll know more about premise of the 2nd season please let me
know. Or when we're going to have discussion in which direction the show
is going to move. should I start submitting an ideas?Skrzat

Actually, I think we want to do this as scripts...for now, movie
scripts. If it takes off, then we will ease it back into a series.

jolanta kiersnowska <skrza-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/saab-tvs/?start=8
> > I have posted a "call for writers" to all my SAAB related groups.
> > would be nice if we could get a few more writers.  What do you
think?
>
> Maybe I shoulod introduce my credencails. I'm not a writor, I don't
> write books (poetry sometimes) and I don't know how. The only things
> that I write are movie scripts or episodic TV scripts. At the moment I
> have for SAAB finished 2 hour TV special movie script.
> Skrzat
>

> I have posted a "call for writers" to all my SAAB related groups.
> would be nice if we could get a few more writers.  What do you think?

Maybe I shoulod introduce my credencails. I'm not a writor, I don't
write books (poetry sometimes) and I don't know how. The only things
that I write are movie scripts or episodic TV scripts. At the moment I
have for SAAB finished 2 hour TV special movie script.
Skrzat

> I think the first thing we need to do is establish where this second
> season will go. Who survives,

Vansen and Phousse. according to creators Wang is dead and i would like
the new season to go in directions suggested by the creators.

> who returns,

both girls and McQueen

> what new characters come in,

I have a whole bunch of characters already developed (so probably
thousands of fans)

>  I also would like to provide, on the
> SAAB:TVS page, a timeline,

I can help with that

> character listing,

so far I have 2 pages

> and first season guide.

I have premise for 5 x 1 hour episodes.

> Anyone up to helping me with that?
>

Me. My thoughts: first episode (2 hour special) Vansen and Phousse
should return, court for West and Cooper, a little bit about McQueen on
Earth and just a mentioning about escalation of war with the
Chigs.Skrzat

I think the first thing we need to do is establish where this second
season will go. Who survives, who returns, what new characters come in,
etc, etc and work from there. I also would like to provide, on the
SAAB:TVS page, a timeline, character listing, and first season guide.
Anyone up to helping me with that?

> I have posted a "call for writers" to all my SAAB related groups.  I am
> a little hesitant about posting to my "non-SAAB-writing" groups.  It
> would be nice if we could get a few more writers.  What do you think?

Maybe if we can get started and get the first movie posted, we might be able
to recruit more people.

RiverRat ~~ sratliff@... ~~ http://www.zoomnet.net/~sratliff/

I have posted a "call for writers" to all my SAAB related groups.  I am
a little hesitant about posting to my "non-SAAB-writing" groups.  It
would be nice if we could get a few more writers.  What do you think?

Hi Rayhne and others!

I was sent here by RiverRat ::waves to Becky:: who says you could probably
put me to work someway, though I ahve to admit that I don't think I'll be
much use to you people as a writer since like you most of my ideas are
already claimed by the 2nd season of SAAB that I'm trying to write.  In
fact, you  have the first 4 eps of "Six Against The Dealer" on your SAAB
Creative Works Centre!  But if you need help editing, reading, commenting,
etc...  I'm more than willng  Anything to keep SAAB alive!  :)

Jessi
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Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:10 AM
Subject: [saab-tvs] Introduction/Premise


>Welcome!!! I am truly hoping that this Virtual Movie Season works out.
>It could be alot of fun.
>
>First off, I'd like to say that as much as I'd like to write a second
>season, most of my plotlines are tied up in my series, THE WILD HUNT.
>Those that aren't aren't are HEART AND SOUL, which, as many of you
>probably know, is more of a science fantasy series, bringing in
>sentient ships and other alien races. Which I think might be a bit much
>for this virtual series. I am, however, available to work as webweaver,
>beta reader, and general think tank/idea person.
>
>I think we should start the virtual movies where the series actually
>left off. However, we may want to first establish timelines,
>characters, possible upcoming events, etc before the writing starts.
>
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Welcome!!! I am truly hoping that this Virtual Movie Season works out.
It could be alot of fun.

First off, I'd like to say that as much as I'd like to write a second
season, most of my plotlines are tied up in my series, THE WILD HUNT.
Those that aren't aren't are HEART AND SOUL, which, as many of you
probably know, is more of a science fantasy series, bringing in
sentient ships and other alien races. Which I think might be a bit much
for this virtual series. I am, however, available to work as webweaver,
beta reader, and general think tank/idea person.

I think we should start the virtual movies where the series actually
left off. However, we may want to first establish timelines,
characters, possible upcoming events, etc before the writing starts.

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