I believe he still may be doing voice-overs and audio books but physically he
may not be doing anymore appearances at events and such. Wish I knew exactly.
Odalys Amion
"Just shufflin' on by"
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Vickie Feldman <vfeldman@...> wrote:
From: Vickie Feldman <vfeldman@...>
Subject: [Quite Quite Fantastic Avengers] Re: Happy Birthday, Patrick!
To: quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 1:03 AM
I hope that he's in good health. Have you heard anything about how he's doing?
I'm
assuming that he has completely retired from acting by now.
Thanks,
Vickie
--- In quitequitefantastic avengers@ yahoogroups. com, "cariheart" <cariheart@.
..> wrote:
>
> Happy Birthday to Mr. Patrick Macnee!
>
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I hope that he's in good health. Have you heard anything about how he's doing?
I'm
assuming that he has completely retired from acting by now.
Thanks,
Vickie
--- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, "cariheart" <cariheart@...>
wrote:
>
> Happy Birthday to Mr. Patrick Macnee!
>
Kevin,
I also heard that announcement after the episode last night. There are still 5
more B/W episodes to go yet though. I hope they show them first.
The New Avengers often gets bad reviews, but remains a personal favourite of
mine. I'm also hoping that they show the Linda Thorsen episodes as it's been
some time since I remember them being aired.
Jacqui
----- Original Message -----
From: jimmythehoover2001
To: quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: [Quite Quite Fantastic Avengers] The NEW Avengers return to BBC
After the BBC screened the Diana Rigg episode, A Touch of Brimstone,
last night, the announcer said that The New Avengers will be screened
in a few weeks time. The BBC last showed New Avengers in 1995 and that
was the first time it had received a truly full network screening in
the UK, nineteen years after it was made, which ITV never did given
that various ITV regions had different time slots.
I look forward to seeing the New Avengers after three complete runs of
the Diana Rigg series over the past several years. I wonder if they
will screen Linda Thorson and Honor Blackman series. (BBC4)
Kevin
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After the BBC screened the Diana Rigg episode, A Touch of Brimstone,
last night, the announcer said that The New Avengers will be screened
in a few weeks time. The BBC last showed New Avengers in 1995 and that
was the first time it had received a truly full network screening in
the UK, nineteen years after it was made, which ITV never did given
that various ITV regions had different time slots.
I look forward to seeing the New Avengers after three complete runs of
the Diana Rigg series over the past several years. I wonder if they
will screen Linda Thorson and Honor Blackman series. (BBC4)
Kevin
Living dead is so great when i saw Emma Peel Stunt is not her i think lifting
and spinning
the guard around over her slender shoulders like a fireman's carry
pose hmmmmmmmmmmm my godness only imagine to be uncounscious and
knocked out by her and flop over her shoulders DAMN IT!!!! LOL
--- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, "barn104_1999"
<barn104_1999@...> wrote:
>
> There is a charm about that story..just when you think it's not going
> to work, it does.
>
>
> --- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, steve callis
> <stevecallis2000@> wrote:
> >
> > The Living Dead" isn't one of my favorites but I like
> > "Who's Who" - may be a little silly but....
> > --- hkjohn2001a <hkjohn2001a@> wrote:
> >
> > > Mandy was a real babe though, wasn't she?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > Droppy45 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There were two that I did not care for. Who's Who
> > > > where Steed and Emma Peele are captured and their
> > > minds
> > > > transfered. Naturally, they were put back in the
> > > proper
> > > > places in the end. The second worst episode was
> > > The
> > > > Living Dead. This revolved around a mining
> > > disaster
> > > > which was a cover for a literal underground
> > > invasion.
> > > > Any thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
There is a charm about that story..just when you think it's not going
to work, it does.
--- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, steve callis
<stevecallis2000@...> wrote:
>
> The Living Dead" isn't one of my favorites but I like
> "Who's Who" - may be a little silly but....
> --- hkjohn2001a <hkjohn2001a@...> wrote:
>
> > Mandy was a real babe though, wasn't she?
> >
> >
> > --- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com,
> > Droppy45 wrote:
> > >
> > > There were two that I did not care for. Who's Who
> > > where Steed and Emma Peele are captured and their
> > minds
> > > transfered. Naturally, they were put back in the
> > proper
> > > places in the end. The second worst episode was
> > The
> > > Living Dead. This revolved around a mining
> > disaster
> > > which was a cover for a literal underground
> > invasion.
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
The Living Dead" isn't one of my favorites but I like
"Who's Who" - may be a little silly but....
--- hkjohn2001a <hkjohn2001a@...> wrote:
> Mandy was a real babe though, wasn't she?
>
>
> --- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com,
> Droppy45 wrote:
> >
> > There were two that I did not care for. Who's Who
> > where Steed and Emma Peele are captured and their
> minds
> > transfered. Naturally, they were put back in the
> proper
> > places in the end. The second worst episode was
> The
> > Living Dead. This revolved around a mining
> disaster
> > which was a cover for a literal underground
> invasion.
> > Any thoughts?
> >
>
>
>
>
I generally like the b/w Peel episodes more than the color ones,
although I do like "A Funny Thing Happened On the Way to the Station"
quite a bit. The Tara King episodes have some stinkers, too, like
"Attack of the Earthmen," which is fun to watch because it's pretty
bad. lol
Mandy *was* a real zinger! :-)
--- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, "hkjohn2001a"
<hkjohn2001a@...> wrote:
>
> Mandy was a real babe though, wasn't she?
>
>
> --- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, Droppy45 wrote:
> >
> > There were two that I did not care for. Who's Who
> > where Steed and Emma Peele are captured and their minds
> > transfered. Naturally, they were put back in the proper
> > places in the end. The second worst episode was The
> > Living Dead. This revolved around a mining disaster
> > which was a cover for a literal underground invasion.
> > Any thoughts?
> >
>
Mandy was a real babe though, wasn't she?
--- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, Droppy45 wrote:
>
> There were two that I did not care for. Who's Who
> where Steed and Emma Peele are captured and their minds
> transfered. Naturally, they were put back in the proper
> places in the end. The second worst episode was The
> Living Dead. This revolved around a mining disaster
> which was a cover for a literal underground invasion.
> Any thoughts?
>
I've been meaning to post this for quite a while, but just haven't
been able to get to it. Anyway, in addition to being an Avengers fan,
I like cars also. Several weeks ago I bought the new (December) issue
of Octane magazine. It's a UK auto mag that's imported to the US.
Much to my surprise, it has a story on Brian Clemens in it. Quite a
bit of the story is about the Avengers, and there are pictures of Emma
and Tara in the cars they drove on the show. Interesting stuff...
Doug
Speaking of Peter Wyngarde:
Well, I learned how to use my movie making software yesterday, and
have done a 2.30 minute movie of screencaps of the duel between Peter
and Roger Moore in The Man Who Liked Lions, set to the music O Fortuna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMZ17wkP5hc
is the URL.
I've finished the initial set of screencaps for my Peter Wyngarde
tribute site.
http://thethunderchild.com/VolcanoSeven/HellfireHall/
The old standbys - Epic, A Touch of Brimstone and The Man Who Liked
Lions.
Also screencaps from Let's Kill Karlovassi - an episode of I Spy.
(Americans can watch this on Amazon Unbox, a free player. Cost $1.99
to buy the episode, which downloads to your computer. Not available in
England.) The episode is quite enjoyable. He gets to display quite a
wide range of emotions throughout the episode.
I'll be adding screencaps from the Prisoner: Checkmate next week.
It was certainly a new flavor. I think they added too many new ingredients and
spoilt the broth. Nothing against Tara, but it was like buying a ticket and
seeing the wrong show. Still entertaining, but not quite the same.
The 6 Pack Kid <wildthingncc1701@...> wrote:
John Steed's unusual Mother did take the program on a different turn.
Almost as if it were a different program.
To compare Tara to Mrs. Peel is like comparing apples to oranges.
Linda did an excellent job of what she did and she is very pretty.
Diana is a Shakespearean actress and more capable of bring a brilliant
performance to anything she does.
Had Diana Rigg played Tara King, with Mother and the other program changes, I
don't think the show would have lasted significantly longer. Apparently ABC
gambled on making "The Avengers" a better program and turned it into a "turkey".
There's an old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
The 6 Pack Kid
"B. A. Peterson" wrote:
First off, what a delight to see something actually posted here!
Second... yes, the Mother character really ruined the show - I never
cared him. It's like they didn't want to bother having to write 45
minutes or so of material so they'd sneak in 10 minutse worth of
Mother to take up some time.
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John Steed's unusual Mother did take the program on a different turn.
Almost as if it were a different program.
To compare Tara to Mrs. Peel is like comparing apples to oranges.
Linda did an excellent job of what she did and she is very pretty.
Diana is a Shakespearean actress and more capable of bring a brilliant
performance to anything she does.
Had Diana Rigg played Tara King, with Mother and the other program changes, I
don't think the show would have lasted significantly longer. Apparently ABC
gambled on making "The Avengers" a better program and turned it into a "turkey".
There's an old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
The 6 Pack Kid
"B. A. Peterson" <galeforce_1962@...> wrote:
First off, what a delight to see something actually posted here!
Second... yes, the Mother character really ruined the show - I never
cared him. It's like they didn't want to bother having to write 45
minutes or so of material so they'd sneak in 10 minutse worth of
Mother to take up some time.
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Correction. I just watched Bizarre again and while I still think it
is a great episode Mother is in the episode throughout. Still, the
episode worked so well, Mother didn't bother me.
--- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, hazekel
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I recommend the following Taras:
>
> Split! - A Jekyll and Hyde spin by Brian Clemens with no mother.
> Get-A-Way - One of Philip Levene's few contributions to Tara, and no
> mother.
> Bizarre - Another quality Brian Clemens script and mother only appears
> in the tag.
>
> Other episodes without mother (of varying quality) are :
>
> Invasion of the Earthmen (okay but no charm to it)
> Curious Case of the Countless Clues (a Philip Levene story)
> My Wildest Dream (a good one, and I think Levene's final script)
> Whoever Shot Poor George Oblique Stroke XR40
> Have Guns ... Will Haggle
> Look, Stop Me If You've Heard This One, But There Were Two of These
Fellas
> The Morning After (I remember this one being pretty good)
> Thingumajig
> Legacy of Death
> Take-Over
> and
> Game
>
> Of the Mother episodes I still recommend
>
> The Interrogators (Christopher Lee guest stars)
> Super Secret Cypher Snatch
> They Keep Killing Steed
> False Witness (a bit silly at times but fun)
> All Done With Mirrors (despite Steed's small role)
> Wish You Were Here
>
> and
>
> a few others I can't remember off my head.
>
>
> --- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, "B. A. Peterson"
> <galeforce_1962@> wrote:
> >
> > I have to confess that I've only watched 1 or 2 of the Tara
> > episodes...just because I couldnt' stand Mother... although I did
> > quite like the All Done With Mirrors episode... mebbe I should
> > give 'em a chance - just to see about that American
interference.... a
> > pity, really...that we'd give 'em money to make the show and then
> > interfere with the way it was made - you'd think they'd know the
Brits
> > would know best how to do it!
> >
> > Much like that atrocious Doctor Who movie with the American actor
> > Roberts as the Master...
> >
>
I recommend the following Taras:
Split! - A Jekyll and Hyde spin by Brian Clemens with no mother.
Get-A-Way - One of Philip Levene's few contributions to Tara, and no
mother.
Bizarre - Another quality Brian Clemens script and mother only appears
in the tag.
Other episodes without mother (of varying quality) are :
Invasion of the Earthmen (okay but no charm to it)
Curious Case of the Countless Clues (a Philip Levene story)
My Wildest Dream (a good one, and I think Levene's final script)
Whoever Shot Poor George Oblique Stroke XR40
Have Guns ... Will Haggle
Look, Stop Me If You've Heard This One, But There Were Two of These Fellas
The Morning After (I remember this one being pretty good)
Thingumajig
Legacy of Death
Take-Over
and
Game
Of the Mother episodes I still recommend
The Interrogators (Christopher Lee guest stars)
Super Secret Cypher Snatch
They Keep Killing Steed
False Witness (a bit silly at times but fun)
All Done With Mirrors (despite Steed's small role)
Wish You Were Here
and
a few others I can't remember off my head.
--- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, "B. A. Peterson"
<galeforce_1962@...> wrote:
>
> I have to confess that I've only watched 1 or 2 of the Tara
> episodes...just because I couldnt' stand Mother... although I did
> quite like the All Done With Mirrors episode... mebbe I should
> give 'em a chance - just to see about that American interference.... a
> pity, really...that we'd give 'em money to make the show and then
> interfere with the way it was made - you'd think they'd know the Brits
> would know best how to do it!
>
> Much like that atrocious Doctor Who movie with the American actor
> Roberts as the Master...
>
I have to confess that I've only watched 1 or 2 of the Tara
episodes...just because I couldnt' stand Mother... although I did
quite like the All Done With Mirrors episode... mebbe I should
give 'em a chance - just to see about that American interference.... a
pity, really...that we'd give 'em money to make the show and then
interfere with the way it was made - you'd think they'd know the Brits
would know best how to do it!
Much like that atrocious Doctor Who movie with the American actor
Roberts as the Master...
Actually I heard that Mother was made a regular the request of the
American studios. If you look at the production order, the Tara Kings
which did not have Mother (usually the better ones) were made before
the ones with Mother, even though they weren't shown in that order.
--- In quitequitefantasticavengers@yahoogroups.com, "B. A. Peterson"
<galeforce_1962@...> wrote:
>
> First off, what a delight to see something actually posted here!
>
> Second... yes, the Mother character really ruined the show - I never
> cared him. It's like they didn't want to bother having to write 45
> minutes or so of material so they'd sneak in 10 minutse worth of
> Mother to take up some time.
>
First off, what a delight to see something actually posted here!
Second... yes, the Mother character really ruined the show - I never
cared him. It's like they didn't want to bother having to write 45
minutes or so of material so they'd sneak in 10 minutse worth of
Mother to take up some time.
Interesting....
The IMDB only has 5 more credits for him after The Avengers:
Diagnosis: Murder (1975) (story)
Deadly Strangers (1974) (story)
The Firechasers (1971) (as Philip Levine)
Mister Jerico (1970) (TV) (as Philip Levine)
He was born in 1926 so only 43 when he 'retired' or moved on to other
interests....
Good question!
Everyone agrees that while the Tara King episodes were still good,
they were a clear step down from Emma Peel's episodes? Usually, poor
Tara herself gets the blame, but I am going to argue to the contrary.
The decline in Tara's episodes were based on the following reason,
none of which related to Tara herself.
1. The loss of Phillip Levene
Phillip Levene was the script editor and author of many many Emma
Peels, but seemed to drop out of sight with Tara (see previous post).
Brian Clemens kept the show alive and wrote the best Tara Kings, but
the other scripts were frankly of an inferior quality from Emma's.
This is evident when one compares early Levene and Clemens Tara
scripts to those of other authors.
2. The overuse of Mother
Now I liked Mother's character. Really I did. But his intrusion into
the episodes as a regular cast member destroyed the Steed and partner
relationship. Now everytime Steed had a hangnail, he had to go
running to Mother. It made the episodes feel uneven, and made Steed
and Tara seem more inadequate. The proof of this is in that the
episodes which did not feature Mother were by and large the best. The
only notable exception was Bizarre, in which Mother only appears at
the very end for the tag.
3. The Americanization of the Show
As an American, I obviously have no problem with Americanism, but the
Avengers was an English show with English humor. Under the Tara Kings
there was a serious reduction in the number of unique characters that
made Emma's so special. Gone were characters like Mr. Cheshire and
other eccentrics. In were standard villains with just a touch of
humor (of course, I agree there were exceptions).
Opinions?
Does anyone know what happened to Phillip Levine. He wrote the best
episodes (along with Brian Clemens) for Emma Peel, but only wrote a
couple of Tara King episodes. He was also script editor for Emma, but
apparently replaced by Terry Nation under Tara. Anyone know what
happened to him?
Three years ago now I wrote 10 chapters of a modern day story called Avengers
Forever which were posted on fanfiction.net.... then I moved and never managed
to get back to it (although I'm sure I wrote a chapter in which Tara King
escaped from her captors.... in fact at least 2 chapters are missing that I
remember writing... and I think I remember a 3rd...unfortunately I have a
different computer now and those chapters are long gone...)
Well...anyway, the gist of the matter is someone recalled this story to me
today, so I went over to fanfiction.net to reread it and it *is* pretty
good...and best of all the Reviews I got were quite enthusiastic.
So my enthusiasm has been rekindled and I'll get back to work on it. I mourn
those lost chapters...I hope I can recreate them with the same kind of joie de
vivre I was writing with back then....
So this is just a promise that that story will soon be finished!
For now, though...read my other work at:
http://thethunderchild.com/TwoSuchPeople/
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Hi, all
It's been a while since I posted here...!
A couple of years ago I wrote several Avengers short stories and put
them up on fanfiction.net.
Now I've collected them all into a free, illustrated 207-page PDF:
http://thethunderchild.com/TwoSuchPeople
1. Alpha Omega, or The Transformed Man
John Steed's character changed markedly from his teamwork with Cathy
Gale to the subsequent team-up with Emma Peel. This story attempts
to explain that transformation. It includes a re-written version
of "The Murder Market," featuring Cathy Gale and additional,
explanatory scenes.
2. The Steed Identity
John Steed loses his memory, and believes that he and Mrs. Peel are
heartless assassins.
3. Do Not Forsake Me
Steed's thoughts as Emma Peel leaves him at the end of "Forget-Me-
Knot".
4. Who's Who?
Patrick Macnee is busy filming the episode "Who's Who" when an
accident occurs and he finds himself transported into the real world
of The Avengers.
5. White Christmas
Steed and Mrs. Peel pause for refreshment on their way back to
London from the "Too Many Christmas Trees" adventure.
6. Aftermath
An alternate view of Mrs. Peel's reaction to Steed's method of
destroying the man-eater of Surrey Green.
7. The Howliween
John Steed and Emma Peel travel to America, where Steed transforms
into a wolf.
8. Sole Remedy
A bit of Grand Guignol in the French countryside.
9. Requiem For A Lightweight
An assassin on his last mission matches wits with John Steed and
Emma Peel.