Sorry, Carol,
  I was offline for the past 6 weeks awaiting a new computor, I was having
trouble with my E-Mails that seems to be ok again now, if you want to give it
another try. But I will E-Mail you from here.

Nic.

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>
> Nic,
>   I have tryed to send you e-mail direct, since it seems we both like cars
too, but keeps coming back. Can you e-mail me direct?
> Carol

Geoff--

Just to let you know... my ISP is having problems and is currently unable to
send to hotmail clients. Sorry.

Thank you for the e-mail you sent me on the 3rd.

Jim Alexander


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

To Maximize Probe Control Id have these systems etc from these TV shows &
movies:

Colussus Forbin Project, 1970.

Knight Rider, 2008 TV show, NBC.

Minority Report- those data gloves etc.

Orig Probe Control set decor BUT updated.

1966 Fantastic Voyage CMDF Mission Ops Center set.

& combine updated systems into One mega system.

Touch screens
wireless mikes etc.

Now add agents, worldwide locales & missions.

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Subject: HR 615
 
On Tuesday, the Senate health committee voted 12-11 in favor of a two-page
amendment, courtesy of Republican Tom Coburn which would require all Members of
Congress and their staff members to enroll in any new government-run health
plan.

Congressman John Fleming has proposed an amendment that would require
Congressmen and Senators to take the same health care plan that they would force
on us. (Under proposed legislation they are exempt.)

Congressman Fleming is encouraging people to go to his Website and sign his
petition.  The process is very simple.  I have done just that at:
http://fleming.house.gov/index.html .
Senator Coburn and Congressman Fleming are both physicians.
Regardless of your political beliefs, it sure seems reasonable that Congress
should have exactly the same medical coverage that they impose on the rest of
us.
Please urge as many people as you can to do the same!





Thanks.

 

 




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                   Subject: HR 615

                   On Tuesday, the Senate health committee voted 12-11 in favor
of a two-page amendment, courtesy of Republican Tom Coburn which would require
all Members of Congress and their staff members to enroll in any new
government-run health plan.

                   Congressman John Fleming has proposed an amendment that would
require Congressmen and Senators to take the same health care plan that they
would force on us. (Under proposed legislation they are exempt.)

                   Congressman Fleming is encouraging people to go to his Website
and sign his petition.  The process is very simple.  I have done just that at:
                   http://fleming.house.gov/index.html .
                   Senator Coburn and Congressman Fleming are both physicians.
                   Regardless of your political beliefs, it sure seems reasonable
that Congress should have exactly the same medical coverage that they impose on
the rest of us.
                   Please urge as many people as you can to do the same!

                 Thanks.






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Nic,
   I have tryed to send you e-mail direct, since it seems we both like cars too,
but keeps coming back. Can you e-mail me direct?
Carol
---- nicholasf <fewernicholas@...> wrote:
> Thanks,John, for the link. The orange "jeep" Doug is driving in those clips is
a Ford Bronco.
> Nic.
>
> --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, John <actingman6@...> wrote:
> >
> > http://probecontrol.artshost.com/viewart.html
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, nicholasf <fewernicholas@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> >Where do you find the "Articles by fans section" with the picture of
> > > you, Hugh and the Comet? I looked through the files and couldn't find it.
> > >
> > > Nic.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: <Hutch2006@...>
To: <probe_control@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [probe_control] DVD of the show


>
> So do i and will that dvd of that one season 1972 tv show be available
> in stores real soon like at best buy or walmart for that matter?
>
> Rick
>

I'm not sure of the site off-hand, but there is company that sells DVD's of
shows like Search or Green Hornet.

So do i and will that dvd of that one season 1972 tv show be available
in stores real soon like at best buy or walmart for that matter?

Rick

Would anyone happen to know where I can buy DVDs of the show?  I'd like to get
the whole series if possible.
Thanks
dave

Thanks,John, for the link. The orange "jeep" Doug is driving in those clips is a
Ford Bronco.
Nic.

--- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, John <actingman6@...> wrote:
>
> http://probecontrol.artshost.com/viewart.html
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, nicholasf <fewernicholas@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
>Where do you find the "Articles by fans section" with the picture of
> > you, Hugh and the Comet? I looked through the files and couldn't find it.
> >
> > Nic.
> >
>
>

http://probecontrol.artshost.com/viewart.html

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, nicholasf <fewernicholas@...> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks from me too, Jim, for that link to Carol's Comet. I didn't
> understand your comment,Carol,about the Comet getting bigger, until I saw
> the photos and then checked a book I have, The Cars of Lincoln-Mercury and
> realised that from 1968 to 1971, the Comet wasn't the compact Ford Maverick
> based model built from 1971, but an intermediate based,larger car. I thought
> the Maverick replaced the Falcon in 1968,but it was 1970. Your Comet is very
> nice. Where do you find the "Articles by fans section" with the picture of
> you, Hugh and the Comet? I looked through the files and couldn't find it.
>
> Nic.
>
> --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com <probe_control%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Carol Jackson <c-jackson@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nic,
> > I think by 69 Maverick had shrunk and Comet got bigger. Mid 60's Comets
> and Falcons were similar. You can see my Comet, with a picture of me, Hugh
> and the Comet from last year in the articles by fans section,and read about
> the Comets great adventures with Hugh, if you haven't read them before.
> > Carol Jackson
>


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Thanks from me too, Jim, for that link to Carol's Comet. I didn't understand
your comment,Carol,about the Comet getting bigger, until I saw the photos and
then checked a book I have, The Cars of Lincoln-Mercury and realised that from
1968 to 1971, the Comet wasn't the compact Ford Maverick based model built from
1971, but an intermediate based,larger car. I thought the Maverick replaced the
Falcon in 1968,but it was 1970. Your Comet is very nice. Where do you find the
"Articles by fans section" with the picture of you, Hugh and the Comet? I looked
through the files and couldn't find it.

Nic.

--- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, Carol Jackson <c-jackson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Nic,
>    I think by 69 Maverick had shrunk and Comet got bigger. Mid 60's Comets and
Falcons were similar. You can see my Comet, with a picture of me, Hugh and the
Comet from last year in the articles by fans section,and read about the Comets
great adventures with Hugh, if you haven't read them before.
> Carol Jackson
>

Cool pics! (I like the sparkly Constitution class starship  stickers on the
instrument panel. Nice touch!)

Dino


In a message dated 10/5/2009 2:00:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
probecontrol@... writes:




Fun stuff, Carol! Thanks for sharing. That's quite a '69 Comet you have
there! Beautiful!

I hope that Carol doesn't mind if I provide a direct  link:
_http://www.hubgaraghttp://www.hubghttp://ww_
(http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/1969comet)

Jim Alexander

============================

Hi  everybody!
I finally got the pictures of my 2 SEARCH license plates up on  "Hub
Garage".
You should be able to get there by googeling "Hub Garage"  then go to
Carol's Comet. Every body here will get the titles I gave to the  cars, but I
bet
nobody at Hub Garage will get them! I did try for "PROBE 1"  for the
Somerset, but I didn't get it. Maybe they thought it was something  dirty at the
license office. I use the Somerset for a backup car to drive to  work. There
are a lot of pictures of the Comet's custom interior- and one of  my, uh,
custom exterior, based on the Comet's hood.
Carol

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Thanks for the link Jim! I don't know how to do all that stuff. It was quite a
struggle to get all that posted, but I'm having fun with it. Nobody on Hub has
asked about the titles or license plates yet! Thanks for the compliment too! I
guess you can see why Hugh O'Brian liked it! If I wasn't afraid of what the
license office would do I'd try for one for the 95 Oldsmobile, but after getting
the Comet's renewal (shudder!) . I'm sure they will have lost the Somerset's
plates by December!!
Carol

Fun stuff, Carol! Thanks for sharing. That's quite a '69 Comet you have there!
Beautiful!

I hope that Carol doesn't mind if I provide a direct link:
http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/1969comet

Jim Alexander

===========================






Hi everybody!
I finally got the pictures of my 2 SEARCH license plates up on "Hub Garage".
You should be able to get there by googeling "Hub Garage" then go to Carol's
Comet. Every body here will get the titles I gave to the cars, but I bet nobody
at Hub Garage will get them! I did try for "PROBE 1" for the Somerset, but I
didn't get it. Maybe they thought it was something dirty at the license office.
I use the Somerset for a backup car to drive to work. There are a lot of
pictures of the Comet's custom interior- and one of my, uh, custom exterior,
based on the Comet's hood.
Carol



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Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

--- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, Carol Jackson <c-jackson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everybody!
>    I finally got the pictures of my 2 SEARCH license plates up on "Hub
Garage".
> You should be able to get there by googeling  "Hub Garage" then go to Carol's
Comet. Every body here will get the titles I gave to the cars, but I bet nobody
at Hub Garage will get them! I did try for "PROBE 1" for the Somerset, but I
didn't get it. Maybe they thought it was something dirty at the license office.
I use the Somerset for a backup car to drive to work. There are a lot of
pictures of the Comet's custom interior- and one of my, uh, custom exterior,
based on the Comet's hood.
> Carol
>

Hi everybody!
    I finally got the pictures of my 2 SEARCH license plates up on "Hub Garage".
You should be able to get there by googeling  "Hub Garage" then go to Carol's
Comet. Every body here will get the titles I gave to the cars, but I bet nobody
at Hub Garage will get them! I did try for "PROBE 1" for the Somerset, but I
didn't get it. Maybe they thought it was something dirty at the license office.
I use the Somerset for a backup car to drive to work. There are a lot of
pictures of the Comet's custom interior- and one of my, uh, custom exterior,
based on the Comet's hood.
Carol

Check out the comments under this article (starting with #27).  It's probably
someone from this group.  ;)



http://trekmovie.com/2009/10/02/roddenberrys-genesis-ii-and-planet-earth-coming-\
to-dvd/



Jim Alexander


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That's correct.  Stevens passed in 1998.
 
However, the production team on the
new series kept his name posthumously
in the credits as a remembrance.
 
     End Run
 
     David
--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Carol Jackson <c-jackson@...> wrote:


From: Carol Jackson <c-jackson@...>
Subject: [probe_control] Leslie Stevens
To: "probe_control: yahoogroups.com" <probe_control@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 6:56 PM


 



Got another question maybe somebody can answer. I looked up Leslie Stevens on
IMDb and it says he died in 1998. But it also credits him with a bunch of Outer
limits from 2002. Were these maybe scripts or stories that he had written but
not done anything with and somebody dug them out?

I wasn't much into Outer Limits. Imagine what his brilliant mind would have come
up with for SEARCH with today's technology!
Carol Jackson


















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Got another question maybe somebody can answer. I looked up Leslie Stevens on
IMDb and it says he died in 1998. But it also credits him with a bunch of Outer
limits from 2002. Were these maybe scripts or stories that he had written but
not done anything with and somebody dug them out?

I wasn't much into Outer Limits. Imagine what his brilliant mind would have come
up with for SEARCH with today's technology!
Carol Jackson

And...think of the later Grover episodes...what role could she have played?

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:54 PM, dghprobe3 <dghprobe3@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- In probe_control, tjveil wrote:
> > ...One is that she was in an episode that did air, in a smaller part
> > that was left on the cutting room floor.
> >
> > The other -- and this does happen from time to time -- is that her
> > part was shot, found inadequate for whatever reason, and then re-cast
> > and re-shot...
>
> Hi: The other possibility which was brought up by Actingman was that it
> could have been an additional 'optional' episode that may have been in the
> planning stages, but was nixed when NBC cancelled the series.
>
> Network 'options' for additional series episodes
> http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/5585
>
> We haven't run into any filmclips of Grayson Hall so far. But from what we
> have seen, Lincoln Enterprises apparently also did not finish cutting all
> the film they had. And Lincoln had no filmclips from the last eight episodes
> because it was the Bob Justman connection that got them the filmclips from
> the first 15.
>
> Another possibility that hasn't been mentioned could be that she was set to
> do the role, but something got overruled and she was replaced before she
> could even get before a camera.
>
> There was the "Star Trek" example where John Drew Barrymore was originally
> cast as Lazarus in "The Alternative Factor," but failed to show up for
> shooting and had to be replaced at the last minute by Robert Brown, causing
> the episode to go two days over schedule.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708451/trivia
>
> And there was "Back to the Future," which was shot once with Eric Stolz as
> Marty McFly, then re-shot with Michael J. Fox in the role.
>
>
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Back+to+the+Future%22+%22Eric+Stolz%22&b\
tnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g-sx2
>
> I'm not saying this happened with Ms. Hall, it's just another example of
> what can and does happen sometimes.
>
> Wish we had more clues on this. All we have is that it was to have been a
> Doug McClure episode. Burgess Meredith was mentioned, so would she have had
> scenes in Probe Control? It would have been nice to have had the name of
> another guest star, or the director's name, or something like that, but we
> don't.
>
> So we are reduced to speculation.
>
> The only other possibility of nailing this down would be if papers relating
> to "Search" were being stored at UCLA or some other university, maybe a memo
> could be found on this. But only certain categories of writers and
> researchers are allowed access to materials of this nature. And it could
> like looking for a needle in a haystack.
>
> Or someone could ask John Strong in a future interview if he remembers
> anything about Grayson Hall? (Hint, hint.)
>


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--- In probe_control, tjveil wrote:
> ...One is that she was in an episode that did air, in a smaller part
> that was left on the cutting room floor.
>
> The other -- and this does happen from time to time -- is that her
> part was shot, found inadequate for whatever reason, and then re-cast
> and re-shot...

Hi: The other possibility which was brought up by Actingman was that it could
have been an additional 'optional' episode that may have been in the planning
stages, but was nixed when NBC cancelled the series.

Network 'options' for additional series episodes
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/5585

We haven't run into any filmclips of Grayson Hall so far.  But from what we have
seen, Lincoln Enterprises apparently also did not finish cutting all the film
they had.  And Lincoln had no filmclips from the last eight episodes because it
was the Bob Justman connection that got them the filmclips from the first 15.

Another possibility that hasn't been mentioned could be that she was set to do
the role, but something got overruled and she was replaced before she could even
get before a camera.

There was the "Star Trek" example where John Drew Barrymore was originally cast
as Lazarus in "The Alternative Factor," but failed to show up for shooting and
had to be replaced at the last minute by Robert Brown, causing the episode to go
two days over schedule.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708451/trivia

And there was "Back to the Future," which was shot once with Eric Stolz as Marty
McFly, then re-shot with Michael J. Fox in the role.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Back+to+the+Future%22+%22Eric+Stolz%22&b\
tnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g-sx2

I'm not saying this happened with Ms. Hall, it's just another example of what
can and does happen sometimes.

Wish we had more clues on this.  All we have is that it was to have been a Doug
McClure episode.  Burgess Meredith was mentioned, so would she have had scenes
in Probe Control?  It would have been nice to have had the name of another guest
star, or the director's name, or something like that, but we don't.

So we are reduced to speculation.

The only other possibility of nailing this down would be if papers relating to
"Search" were being stored at UCLA or some other university, maybe a memo could
be found on this.  But only certain categories of writers and researchers are
allowed access to materials of this nature.  And it could like looking for a
needle in a haystack.

Or someone could ask John Strong in a future interview if he remembers anything
about Grayson Hall?  (Hint, hint.)

Hmmmm.  That 'recast and reshot' theory is very interesting, tjveil.  And I
think it's a sound suggestion.



You'd think the producers/casting director would be familiar enough with Hall's
work to've known if she fit the part well enough.  But, I guess
stranger things have happened.



Thanks--



Jim Alexander









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HI,Carol,
Thanks for your eply. I didn't know Buick made a model called the Somerset.
Honeymoon to Kill is probably my favourite, too, mainly as Doug got to drive a
lot of cars,in it his own Corvette, a Citroen SM  (The first one of those I saw
was in a shopping mall in L.A. in 1972, maybe it was the same one Doug drove in
this ep and in The Packagers), and VW pick-up. He got to drive a Porsche 911 and
Datsun 240Z and ride in the back of a Mercedes-Benz 300 "Adenauer" in Numbered
for Death. The car that Cameron is taken away from Probe H.Q. in Moment of
Madness is a 1957 Ford sedan delivery, Doug drove a 1957 four door sedan in
Checkmate.
Nic.



--- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, Carol Jackson <c-jackson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Nic,
>     My Somerset is a 1987 Buick Somerset After 5 years it has turned out to be
a decent car. That's why I went ahead and got the LOCKWD plates for it.
>     Honeymoon to Kill is my TOTAL FAVORITE episode!! Love them all, but
Honeymoon to Kill just had everything for me. The humor excitement and all.
LOVED it when Cam called Grover an "incompetent exponent of congenital
stupidity!" My total favorite line from SEARCH!
> Carol Jackson
>

Just caught up on this discussion of Grayson Hall and the "missing" Search
episode.

It's entirely possible there were episodes that didn't air.  But I think there
are two other possibilities.

One is that she was in an episode that did air, in a smaller part that was left
on the cutting room floor.

The other -- and this does happen from time to time -- is that her part was
shot, found inadequate for whatever reason, and then re-cast and re-shot.  (That
would fit with the comment about it possibly being an "unpleasant experience.") 
This most famously happened to an actress who was originally supposed to fill
the "Mrs. Peel" role in The Avengers.  They shot the season's first episode with
her, decided she was not right for the part, and went back and re-shot the
episode with Diana Rigg.  (And the rest, as they say, is history.)



________________________________
From: "mitchsand@..." <mitchsand@...>
To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 4:18:58 PM
Subject: Re: [probe_control] Grayson Hall on Search


From Grayson's Bio:

"One obscure job involved a short-lived program entitled Search co-starring
Burgess Meredith and Doug McClure.  While some episodes have aired, her work has
not surfaced.  She brushed off discussions of it, hence one believes it to have
been an unpleasant experience"

Mitch
------------ -- Original message from JIM ALEXANDER <probecontrol@ wowway.com>:
------------ --

Mitch wrote:
>... I recently read Grayson Hall of Dark Shadows fame biography. In it she
filmed an episode of Search with Doug McClure and Burgess Meredith and it was
never aired. Any idea if it ran in syndication and is available/title?
==========
Hey, Mitch---

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but...

This has been discussed on the list before, and as I recall, the only place it's
mentioned is in Hall's bio. We've never been able to establish any other
circumstance of such a thing existing. No scripts, no film clips, no other
actors mentioning they were involved with it. Nothing. It seems odd that Hall
would mention it if it never occurred, but... we've never been able to prove it.

I am curious about the exact phraseology of the mention in the book. Do you
think you could share it with us, please?

Jim Alexander

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The Internet Movie Database lists 44 titles with location shooting at Toluca
Lake.  However, Search is not among the titles.

If the link below is not reproduced correctly, you should be able to highlight
the full link, and then paste it into your browser window.  Or go to the main
site at imdb dot com and put Toluca Lake into their search engine.

http://www.imdb.com/List?endings=on&&locations=Toluca%20Lake,%20Los%20Angeles,%2\
0California,%20USA&&heading=18;with+locations+including;Toluca%20Lake,%20Los%20A\
ngeles,%20California,%20USA

More from wikipedia:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluca_Lake,_Los_Angeles,_California

And Google maps (I added a couple more maps to that Photos 'ShootingLocations'
folder):

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Toluca+Lake,+Los+Angeles,+CA&um=1&ie=UTF-8&h\
q=&hnear=Toluca+Lake,+Los+Angeles,+CA&gl=us&ei=yiO9SpvsIdOA8Qbr1_iuAQ&sa=X&oi=ge\
ocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1

The first season of "The Rockford Files" is also out on DVD, and "The Kirkoff
Case" was the first regular episode (after the initial pilot movie).

I added a map and a couple of pics I found online of a few signs saying "Toluca
Lake."  Hopefully this might help folks who live nearby who may wish to find the
area.

In "The Clayton Lewis Document," we did not get to see much of the exterior of
the house.  You get to see what may be a back porch area behind Julie Adams, and
you see stonework and an arch as Bianco leaves the house, and you see a bad guy
behind the window as Bianco drives away.

Then again, you don't get to see any of these particular areas in the Rockford
episode, just the lake area with table and chairs, and that wood paneled room
with the same fireplace.

I'll add those Search vidcaps to the Photos 'ShootingLocations' folder.

I tried doing a Google "street view" of the house around the lake area.  Some of
the houses are obscured by walls, garages, and trees, so you can't see much. 
And some of the houses appear to have been remodeled and/or modernized.

-----------------------

--- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, DBoysen@... wrote:
>
> That makes more sense. Toluca Lake is basically part of Burbank. Just outside
the gates of W.B. studio. But now I'm interested in where, since I don't know of
any actual "lakes" in Toluca Lake. I'll have to watch "Clayton Lewis Docs"
again.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dghprobe3 <dghprobe3@...>
> To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2009 9:23 pm
> Subject: [probe_control] Re: Search shooting location - Toluca Lake
>
(snip)
> Garner Part 5 refers to Toluca Lake near 10:45 point:
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r6DCmtEDpQ
>
> And the area is indeed named "Toluca Lake," and not "Lake Toluca." :-)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

That makes more sense. Toluca Lake is basically part of Burbank. Just outside
the gates of W.B. studio. But now I'm interested in where, since I don't know of
any actual "lakes" in Toluca Lake. I'll have to watch "Clayton Lewis Docs"
again.


-----Original Message-----
From: dghprobe3 <dghprobe3@...>
To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2009 9:23 pm
Subject: [probe_control] Re: Search shooting location - Toluca Lake






I did make a small mistake in my original post. James Garner's reference to
Toluca Lake and James Woods was in Part 5 of the YouTube series, not Part 4.

By this point, the interview had gone beyond Rockford Files and into Garner's
projects afterward. He worked with James Woods in "Promise," and it was here
that Garner referred back to Rockford since Woods appeared in the Rockford
episode, "Kirkoff Case."

Garner Part 5 refers to Toluca Lake near 10:45 point:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r6DCmtEDpQ

And the area is indeed named "Toluca Lake," and not "Lake Toluca." :-)








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I did make a small mistake in my original post.  James Garner's reference to
Toluca Lake and James Woods was in Part 5 of the YouTube series, not Part 4.

By this point, the interview had gone beyond Rockford Files and into Garner's
projects afterward.  He worked with James Woods in "Promise," and it was here
that Garner referred back to Rockford since Woods appeared in the Rockford
episode, "Kirkoff Case."

Garner Part 5 refers to Toluca Lake near 10:45 point:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r6DCmtEDpQ

And the area is indeed named "Toluca Lake," and not "Lake Toluca."  :-)

Nice 'sleuthing,' Don!  Great work! 



Jim Alexander



==============================
 




There are two new pics in Photos, in the 'ShootingLocations' folder.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/photos/album/1325992073/pic/list

I saw one of the James Garner interview videos on YouTube where he discusses
'The Rockford Files.' He mentioned the first episode, "The Kirkoff Case," which
featured James Woods and the fact that their scenes were filmed at Lake Toluca
in Los Angeles.

Garner discusses Rockford and Lake Toluca on YouTube (approx. 28 minutes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxb7SgKQCBU

I remembered the Rockford episode and recalled that the same area was used in
the 'Search' episode "The Clayton Lewis Document."

This was the sort of backyard patio area with a table and chairs next to a lake.
Scenes were also filmed inside the house for both shows.

Doubtful that a fan could obtain access to see the house or lake area or take
pictures unless you knew the people who lived there.

It is more possible that a Google or other online 'street view' could be found
of the front of the house in question, that is, if the appearance of the house
hasn't changed since 1973-74. If I find something along these lines, I'll post
something.

Anyway, comparison pics are in the Photos section. If the top link above does
not work, go to 'Photos' and open the 'ShootingLocations' folder.




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There are two new pics in Photos, in the 'ShootingLocations' folder.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/photos/album/1325992073/pic/list

I saw one of the James Garner interview videos on YouTube where he discusses
'The Rockford Files.'  He mentioned the first episode, "The Kirkoff Case," which
featured James Woods and the fact that their scenes were filmed at Lake Toluca
in Los Angeles.

Garner discusses Rockford and Lake Toluca on YouTube (approx. 28 minutes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxb7SgKQCBU

I remembered the Rockford episode and recalled that the same area was used in
the 'Search' episode "The Clayton Lewis Document."

This was the sort of backyard patio area with a table and chairs next to a lake.
Scenes were also filmed inside the house for both shows.

Doubtful that a fan could obtain access to see the house or lake area or take
pictures unless you knew the people who lived there.

It is more possible that a Google or other online 'street view' could be found
of the front of the house in question, that is, if the appearance of the house
hasn't changed since 1973-74.  If I find something along these lines, I'll post
something.

Anyway, comparison pics are in the Photos section.  If the top link above does
not work, go to 'Photos' and open the 'ShootingLocations' folder.