----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:27 AM

Subject: [mst3k] OT: Best of... The Love Captive!

Let me tighten your movie up a little, there, Ler. So i took the liberty of making a ten-minute "cliff's notes", reduced-pain version of "The Love Captive," in case the back-and-forth has made anyone curious what it's all about. ten minutes is about all a human being should be expected to take. plus, the whole movie pretty much fits in ten minutes. the rest of it is mostly filler and hairy male backsides. you know, this movie's actually kinda hot after you take the sex scenes out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXVYrp-aKY

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:00 AM

Subject: Re: [mst3k] Death Rat audio book, unabridged and read aloud by the author, Mike T. Nelson

i want him to read it to me though!   i read all of "death rat" over the internet to a friend of mine who was sick once. by gum, if i can do it, mike can, too. --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Les West <theaterbearco@...> wrote: From: Les West <theaterbearco@...> Subject: Re: [mst3k] Death Rat audio book, unabridged and read aloud by the author, Mike T. Nelson To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:42 AM   Well seeing how I work in a bookstore maybe I can shed light on the subject.  It could be that the publisher didn't want to do it or maybe Mike just wanted to write the book and that was all.  I hear things like this all the time. Les :) --- On Mon, 11/23/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] Death Rat audio book, unabridged and read aloud by the author, Mike T. Nelson To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 9:14 AM   I agree! It should be required by law if only for those poor souls who lost their sight and all their fingers in a tragic clog-dancing accident!   Bobbie   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: [mst3k] Death Rat audio book, unabridged and read aloud by the author, Mike T. Nelson why isn't there one? did we, as fans, not demand it enough?

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 9:01 AM

Subject: [mst3k] Death Rat audio book, unabridged and read aloud by the author, Mike T. Nelson

why isn't there one? did we, as fans, not demand it enough?

----- Original Message -----

From: Emily Sours

To: mst3k

Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 1:41 PM

Subject: [mst3k] OT: extended cut?

If a movie is listed as "extended cut", does that mean it's longer than the theatrical verison? I want to watch the widecreen version of Ghost Rider with my rifftrax, but my library only has the "extended cut" in widescreen.  There's no length of time listed for this version in the catalog unfornately, but it does have more than one dvd.
I may just go with the fullscreen version, since all I really care about is the rifftrax lining up.
Did anyone even want to the see the director's cut of this, really?

Emily

...the thrill of being close to that hidden knowledge. That's the way I feel when I read Nabokov. Encrypted within his words, encoded indecipherably, ambiguously, is the equivalent of the secret of lightning. Something akin to the secret code of higher human consciousness, the DNA, the genome of genius.
-Ron Rosenbaum

Emily Sours wrote:
>
>
> If a movie is listed as "extended cut", does that mean it's longer
> than the theatrical verison? I want to watch the widecreen version of
> Ghost Rider with my rifftrax, but my library only has the "extended
> cut" in widescreen.  There's no length of time listed for this version
> in the catalog unfornately, but it does have more than one dvd.
> I may just go with the fullscreen version, since all I really care
> about is the rifftrax lining up.
> Did anyone even want to the see the director's cut of this, really?
Extended cut may mean a couple of things.  Since most directors don't
have final say on the edit of the movie, a director's cut is often
available on DVD.  (It makes a lot more sense when you watch the
director's cut of Alien 3 than the theatrical cut.)  An extended cut
usually means that some of the scenes that were deleted for the
theatrical release (usually because of runtime and the scenes not really
moving the story forward) are restored.  So in short, yes, it's longer
than the theatrical version.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:27 AM

Subject: [mst3k] OT: Best of... The Love Captive!

Let me tighten your movie up a little, there, Ler. So i took the liberty of making a ten-minute "cliff's notes", reduced-pain version of "The Love Captive," in case the back-and-forth has made anyone curious what it's all about. ten minutes is about all a human being should be expected to take. plus, the whole movie pretty much fits in ten minutes. the rest of it is mostly filler and hairy male backsides. you know, this movie's actually kinda hot after you take the sex scenes out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXVYrp-aKY

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:27 AM

Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo

it's a coverup! you ever notice that you never see larry crane and the director of "the room" at the same time? somehow i feel like if our beloved larry were still making movies he'd make something a lot like "the room." it has that same "why does this movie exist?" aura to it. oh hai larry! --- On Sat, 11/21/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@...> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@...> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 9:37 AM    >>whoooooooooo issssss laaaarrrrrryy crrrrrraaaaaaaaannn neeee???? ????????? ??? Who indeed! Where is this man who made bad movies for only two years, then seemingly disappeared off the face of the Earth? Who was he? Everyone has a past. Why is the usually info-intensive imdb mute on Mr. Crane? And, why do I care!?!   Bobbie *donning Sherlock Holmes-style Deerstalker hat*   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo i've had a hell of a time finding any info on mr. crane! which sucks because even after all these years, i'm still obsessed. because of "the love captive." that movie should not exist. i must know why that movie exists, i'm like dr F pointing at that worst movie ever made monolith, like the big black thing in 2001, and the love captive IS that movie. I came on this, it's the only thing i could find that wasn't just a review or filmography. http://www.grindhou sedatabase. com/index. php/American_ Film_Distributio n Where are you, Larry? We, the people, demand an explanation! the weird eavesdroppy guys that press speakers instead of microphones against the walls! the skeevy "she could fool her own mother" line! the guy in the closet! the five minutes and forty-five straight seconds of a chubby topless woman bobbing up and down with a werewolf to bongo music! why? why? WHY? whoooooooooo issssss laaaarrrrrryy crrrrrraaaaaaaaannn neeee???? ????????? ??? --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 3:54 PM    Hey, Michael...I can't find a biography for Larry Crane. You got anything other than his filmography?   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo is that from the book? if i got larry crane a mention in your book that'd be awesome! although i still have to say i think "the love captive" edges out "all women are bad" for sheer mind-melting cinematic awfulness. and i haven't seen "bad girls do cry."   among mainstream flops meteor is one of my favorites for unintentional lulz. we watched that more than once late night in college for the sheer cornball fun of it.   p.s. turns out nuclear weapons will probably be no help in destroying asteroids, regardless of what "meteor" sez. i read somewhere an asteroid would probably come in so fast it would just go right through the explosion the way you can run fast through a fire without being burned. so there. something else to worry about. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM    Larry Crane will always be burned into my brain as the man who gave the world All Women Are Bad (1969). This has long run neck-and-neck with my personal choice for worst movie ever made Bad Girls Do Cry (1965). I'm sure both of these did box-office business at NY grindhouses but were probably too low budget and obscure (re: bizarre) for the drive-in circuit of the 70's where Coffy (1973) and Big Doll House (1971) ruled. And horror had turned aquatic with Piranna (1978) and Jaws (1975) when it wasn't bloodying up the screen with Amityville Horror (1979) and Meteor (1979).     ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo poor larry! he gets no respect! simply because he made what i'm still convinced are literally the two worst movies in human history. the only moviemaker capable of making coleman francis look like orson welles.   i'm not sure they even make real drive-in type movies anymore. the drive-in flicks of the 70s particularly seemed like a fluke in how movies got financed or something. now everything that's low-budget comes out direct-to-video (i guess it's direct-to-DVD now). it's sad, really. although it's probably just as well, if i'd started going to drive-ins as a teenager i probably would have gotten all obsessed with them. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:13 PM    We have one about 40 miles from here but it, too, only shows first-run films. Gone are the days of double or triple features. Gone are the classic horror flicks I saw at the Twin-City... the Exorcist, Night Of the Living Dead, Dawn Of the Dead. (I think Larry Crane is too much for even the drive-ins to show!) Gone are the soft-corn films like Chatterbox and the biker movies and the exploitation flicks! Gone but not forgotten.   But, in my travels for the book, I've discovered a surprisingly hefty number of defunct drive-ins are reopening and some new ones are being built! Numbers are creeping up...not in large enough numbers to make a noticeable difference to walk-in theaters but enough to be heartening to die-hard fans like me!     ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo ah im jealous! my folks would never take me to a drive-in because they thought they only played dirty movies there. (which where i lived was at least half true lol.) they always took me to arthouse stuff, but that was cool, i saw movies like "dark star" and "the cars that ate paris" there. i think there's a drive-in somewhere in west virginia, a 100 miles or so away, one of these days i'm gonna put a road trip together. the problem is, now the drive-ins play movies like shrek 3. dude mainstream hollywood is not drive in! gimme some larry crane! --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:14 AM   That was cool! Thanks! I shared it with Uni, my co-author.   It's a shame that you have never been to a drive-in! Drive-ins were more than just movie watching. They were an experience! The cars lining up on the ramps, those awful old crackling speakers, the dust and noise and concession-stand smells of cooking food. Little kids in Dr. Denton's playing on the playground that sat in front of the huge screen. Conversations from strolling teens moving from car to car. All of us patiently... and some not so patiently... waiting for the sun to go down. And, when it finally sank below the horizon, to be greeted by one of the 'feature presentation' videos you just shared with me. The excitement was palatable! I miss that very much!   Bobbie   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 AM Subject: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=PKX83HMVO1Q i know bobbie is into the old drive-ins, she might dig this if she doesn't know about it already. this youtube guy has a lot of these intros on his profile, the above is just what i think is the best one. i gather they only played these at drive-ins, and i sadly have never in my life gone to a drive-in, so i've never seen them before.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo

i've had a hell of a time finding any info on mr. crane! which sucks because even after all these years, i'm still obsessed. because of "the love captive." that movie should not exist. i must know why that movie exists, i'm like dr F pointing at that worst movie ever made monolith, like the big black thing in 2001, and the love captive IS that movie. I came on this, it's the only thing i could find that wasn't just a review or filmography. http://www.grindhousedatabase.com/index.php/American_Film_Distribution Where are you, Larry? We, the people, demand an explanation! the weird eavesdroppy guys that press speakers instead of microphones against the walls! the skeevy "she could fool her own mother" line! the guy in the closet! the five minutes and forty-five straight seconds of a chubby topless woman bobbing up and down with a werewolf to bongo music! why? why? WHY? whoooooooooo issssss laaaarrrrrryy crrrrrraaaaaaaaannnneeee???????????????? --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@...> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@...> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 3:54 PM    Hey, Michael...I can't find a biography for Larry Crane. You got anything other than his filmography?   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo is that from the book? if i got larry crane a mention in your book that'd be awesome! although i still have to say i think "the love captive" edges out "all women are bad" for sheer mind-melting cinematic awfulness. and i haven't seen "bad girls do cry."   among mainstream flops meteor is one of my favorites for unintentional lulz. we watched that more than once late night in college for the sheer cornball fun of it.   p.s. turns out nuclear weapons will probably be no help in destroying asteroids, regardless of what "meteor" sez. i read somewhere an asteroid would probably come in so fast it would just go right through the explosion the way you can run fast through a fire without being burned. so there. something else to worry about. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM    Larry Crane will always be burned into my brain as the man who gave the world All Women Are Bad (1969). This has long run neck-and-neck with my personal choice for worst movie ever made Bad Girls Do Cry (1965). I'm sure both of these did box-office business at NY grindhouses but were probably too low budget and obscure (re: bizarre) for the drive-in circuit of the 70's where Coffy (1973) and Big Doll House (1971) ruled. And horror had turned aquatic with Piranna (1978) and Jaws (1975) when it wasn't bloodying up the screen with Amityville Horror (1979) and Meteor (1979).     ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo poor larry! he gets no respect! simply because he made what i'm still convinced are literally the two worst movies in human history. the only moviemaker capable of making coleman francis look like orson welles.   i'm not sure they even make real drive-in type movies anymore. the drive-in flicks of the 70s particularly seemed like a fluke in how movies got financed or something. now everything that's low-budget comes out direct-to-video (i guess it's direct-to-DVD now). it's sad, really. although it's probably just as well, if i'd started going to drive-ins as a teenager i probably would have gotten all obsessed with them. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:13 PM    We have one about 40 miles from here but it, too, only shows first-run films. Gone are the days of double or triple features. Gone are the classic horror flicks I saw at the Twin-City... the Exorcist, Night Of the Living Dead, Dawn Of the Dead. (I think Larry Crane is too much for even the drive-ins to show!) Gone are the soft-corn films like Chatterbox and the biker movies and the exploitation flicks! Gone but not forgotten.   But, in my travels for the book, I've discovered a surprisingly hefty number of defunct drive-ins are reopening and some new ones are being built! Numbers are creeping up...not in large enough numbers to make a noticeable difference to walk-in theaters but enough to be heartening to die-hard fans like me!     ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo ah im jealous! my folks would never take me to a drive-in because they thought they only played dirty movies there. (which where i lived was at least half true lol.) they always took me to arthouse stuff, but that was cool, i saw movies like "dark star" and "the cars that ate paris" there. i think there's a drive-in somewhere in west virginia, a 100 miles or so away, one of these days i'm gonna put a road trip together. the problem is, now the drive-ins play movies like shrek 3. dude mainstream hollywood is not drive in! gimme some larry crane! --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:14 AM   That was cool! Thanks! I shared it with Uni, my co-author.   It's a shame that you have never been to a drive-in! Drive-ins were more than just movie watching. They were an experience! The cars lining up on the ramps, those awful old crackling speakers, the dust and noise and concession-stand smells of cooking food. Little kids in Dr. Denton's playing on the playground that sat in front of the huge screen. Conversations from strolling teens moving from car to car. All of us patiently... and some not so patiently... waiting for the sun to go down. And, when it finally sank below the horizon, to be greeted by one of the 'feature presentation' videos you just shared with me. The excitement was palatable! I miss that very much!   Bobbie   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 AM Subject: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=PKX83HMVO1Q i know bobbie is into the old drive-ins, she might dig this if she doesn't know about it already. this youtube guy has a lot of these intros on his profile, the above is just what i think is the best one. i gather they only played these at drive-ins, and i sadly have never in my life gone to a drive-in, so i've never seen them before.

Hey, I wonder if there is any current buzz on Cinematic Titanic going cable.

I notice that TMC and IFC cable channels are running late night Friday films
along the lines of the MST3K universe.  One of them is running "Robot Vs. The
Aztec Mummy" tonight.

It would be great if the addition of a host hook could make Cinematic Titanic
cable-ready in the near future.

Michael Ward wrote:
> p.s. turns out nuclear weapons will probably be no help in destroying
> asteroids, regardless of what "meteor" sez. i read somewhere an
> asteroid would probably come in so fast it would just go right through
> the explosion the way you can run fast through a fire without being
> burned. so there. something else to worry about.
>

I won't go into details here, but that's not the reason, but it's true,
they won't.  If you want details, I'll explain them off-line or you can
read Death From the Skies: These Are the Ways the World Will End by
Philip Plait, PhD.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo

is that from the book? if i got larry crane a mention in your book that'd be awesome! although i still have to say i think "the love captive" edges out "all women are bad" for sheer mind-melting cinematic awfulness. and i haven't seen "bad girls do cry."   among mainstream flops meteor is one of my favorites for unintentional lulz. we watched that more than once late night in college for the sheer cornball fun of it.   p.s. turns out nuclear weapons will probably be no help in destroying asteroids, regardless of what "meteor" sez. i read somewhere an asteroid would probably come in so fast it would just go right through the explosion the way you can run fast through a fire without being burned. so there. something else to worry about. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@...> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@...> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM    Larry Crane will always be burned into my brain as the man who gave the world All Women Are Bad (1969). This has long run neck-and-neck with my personal choice for worst movie ever made Bad Girls Do Cry (1965). I'm sure both of these did box-office business at NY grindhouses but were probably too low budget and obscure (re: bizarre) for the drive-in circuit of the 70's where Coffy (1973) and Big Doll House (1971) ruled. And horror had turned aquatic with Piranna (1978) and Jaws (1975) when it wasn't bloodying up the screen with Amityville Horror (1979) and Meteor (1979).     ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo poor larry! he gets no respect! simply because he made what i'm still convinced are literally the two worst movies in human history. the only moviemaker capable of making coleman francis look like orson welles.   i'm not sure they even make real drive-in type movies anymore. the drive-in flicks of the 70s particularly seemed like a fluke in how movies got financed or something. now everything that's low-budget comes out direct-to-video (i guess it's direct-to-DVD now). it's sad, really. although it's probably just as well, if i'd started going to drive-ins as a teenager i probably would have gotten all obsessed with them. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:13 PM    We have one about 40 miles from here but it, too, only shows first-run films. Gone are the days of double or triple features. Gone are the classic horror flicks I saw at the Twin-City... the Exorcist, Night Of the Living Dead, Dawn Of the Dead. (I think Larry Crane is too much for even the drive-ins to show!) Gone are the soft-corn films like Chatterbox and the biker movies and the exploitation flicks! Gone but not forgotten.   But, in my travels for the book, I've discovered a surprisingly hefty number of defunct drive-ins are reopening and some new ones are being built! Numbers are creeping up...not in large enough numbers to make a noticeable difference to walk-in theaters but enough to be heartening to die-hard fans like me!     ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo ah im jealous! my folks would never take me to a drive-in because they thought they only played dirty movies there. (which where i lived was at least half true lol.) they always took me to arthouse stuff, but that was cool, i saw movies like "dark star" and "the cars that ate paris" there. i think there's a drive-in somewhere in west virginia, a 100 miles or so away, one of these days i'm gonna put a road trip together. the problem is, now the drive-ins play movies like shrek 3. dude mainstream hollywood is not drive in! gimme some larry crane! --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:14 AM   That was cool! Thanks! I shared it with Uni, my co-author.   It's a shame that you have never been to a drive-in! Drive-ins were more than just movie watching. They were an experience! The cars lining up on the ramps, those awful old crackling speakers, the dust and noise and concession-stand smells of cooking food. Little kids in Dr. Denton's playing on the playground that sat in front of the huge screen. Conversations from strolling teens moving from car to car. All of us patiently... and some not so patiently... waiting for the sun to go down. And, when it finally sank below the horizon, to be greeted by one of the 'feature presentation' videos you just shared with me. The excitement was palatable! I miss that very much!   Bobbie   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 AM Subject: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=PKX83HMVO1Q i know bobbie is into the old drive-ins, she might dig this if she doesn't know about it already. this youtube guy has a lot of these intros on his profile, the above is just what i think is the best one. i gather they only played these at drive-ins, and i sadly have never in my life gone to a drive-in, so i've never seen them before.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo

is that from the book? if i got larry crane a mention in your book that'd be awesome! although i still have to say i think "the love captive" edges out "all women are bad" for sheer mind-melting cinematic awfulness. and i haven't seen "bad girls do cry."   among mainstream flops meteor is one of my favorites for unintentional lulz. we watched that more than once late night in college for the sheer cornball fun of it.   p.s. turns out nuclear weapons will probably be no help in destroying asteroids, regardless of what "meteor" sez. i read somewhere an asteroid would probably come in so fast it would just go right through the explosion the way you can run fast through a fire without being burned. so there. something else to worry about. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@...> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@...> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:58 PM    Larry Crane will always be burned into my brain as the man who gave the world All Women Are Bad (1969). This has long run neck-and-neck with my personal choice for worst movie ever made Bad Girls Do Cry (1965). I'm sure both of these did box-office business at NY grindhouses but were probably too low budget and obscure (re: bizarre) for the drive-in circuit of the 70's where Coffy (1973) and Big Doll House (1971) ruled. And horror had turned aquatic with Piranna (1978) and Jaws (1975) when it wasn't bloodying up the screen with Amityville Horror (1979) and Meteor (1979).     ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo poor larry! he gets no respect! simply because he made what i'm still convinced are literally the two worst movies in human history. the only moviemaker capable of making coleman francis look like orson welles.   i'm not sure they even make real drive-in type movies anymore. the drive-in flicks of the 70s particularly seemed like a fluke in how movies got financed or something. now everything that's low-budget comes out direct-to-video (i guess it's direct-to-DVD now). it's sad, really. although it's probably just as well, if i'd started going to drive-ins as a teenager i probably would have gotten all obsessed with them. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:13 PM    We have one about 40 miles from here but it, too, only shows first-run films. Gone are the days of double or triple features. Gone are the classic horror flicks I saw at the Twin-City... the Exorcist, Night Of the Living Dead, Dawn Of the Dead. (I think Larry Crane is too much for even the drive-ins to show!) Gone are the soft-corn films like Chatterbox and the biker movies and the exploitation flicks! Gone but not forgotten.   But, in my travels for the book, I've discovered a surprisingly hefty number of defunct drive-ins are reopening and some new ones are being built! Numbers are creeping up...not in large enough numbers to make a noticeable difference to walk-in theaters but enough to be heartening to die-hard fans like me!     ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo ah im jealous! my folks would never take me to a drive-in because they thought they only played dirty movies there. (which where i lived was at least half true lol.) they always took me to arthouse stuff, but that was cool, i saw movies like "dark star" and "the cars that ate paris" there. i think there's a drive-in somewhere in west virginia, a 100 miles or so away, one of these days i'm gonna put a road trip together. the problem is, now the drive-ins play movies like shrek 3. dude mainstream hollywood is not drive in! gimme some larry crane! --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:14 AM   That was cool! Thanks! I shared it with Uni, my co-author.   It's a shame that you have never been to a drive-in! Drive-ins were more than just movie watching. They were an experience! The cars lining up on the ramps, those awful old crackling speakers, the dust and noise and concession-stand smells of cooking food. Little kids in Dr. Denton's playing on the playground that sat in front of the huge screen. Conversations from strolling teens moving from car to car. All of us patiently... and some not so patiently... waiting for the sun to go down. And, when it finally sank below the horizon, to be greeted by one of the 'feature presentation' videos you just shared with me. The excitement was palatable! I miss that very much!   Bobbie   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 AM Subject: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=PKX83HMVO1Q i know bobbie is into the old drive-ins, she might dig this if she doesn't know about it already. this youtube guy has a lot of these intros on his profile, the above is just what i think is the best one. i gather they only played these at drive-ins, and i sadly have never in my life gone to a drive-in, so i've never seen them before.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:42 PM

Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo

poor larry! he gets no respect! simply because he made what i'm still convinced are literally the two worst movies in human history. the only moviemaker capable of making coleman francis look like orson welles.   i'm not sure they even make real drive-in type movies anymore. the drive-in flicks of the 70s particularly seemed like a fluke in how movies got financed or something. now everything that's low-budget comes out direct-to-video (i guess it's direct-to-DVD now). it's sad, really. although it's probably just as well, if i'd started going to drive-ins as a teenager i probably would have gotten all obsessed with them. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@...> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@...> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:13 PM    We have one about 40 miles from here but it, too, only shows first-run films. Gone are the days of double or triple features. Gone are the classic horror flicks I saw at the Twin-City... the Exorcist, Night Of the Living Dead, Dawn Of the Dead. (I think Larry Crane is too much for even the drive-ins to show!) Gone are the soft-corn films like Chatterbox and the biker movies and the exploitation flicks! Gone but not forgotten.   But, in my travels for the book, I've discovered a surprisingly hefty number of defunct drive-ins are reopening and some new ones are being built! Numbers are creeping up...not in large enough numbers to make a noticeable difference to walk-in theaters but enough to be heartening to die-hard fans like me!     ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo ah im jealous! my folks would never take me to a drive-in because they thought they only played dirty movies there. (which where i lived was at least half true lol.) they always took me to arthouse stuff, but that was cool, i saw movies like "dark star" and "the cars that ate paris" there. i think there's a drive-in somewhere in west virginia, a 100 miles or so away, one of these days i'm gonna put a road trip together. the problem is, now the drive-ins play movies like shrek 3. dude mainstream hollywood is not drive in! gimme some larry crane! --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@sbcglobal .net> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:14 AM   That was cool! Thanks! I shared it with Uni, my co-author.   It's a shame that you have never been to a drive-in! Drive-ins were more than just movie watching. They were an experience! The cars lining up on the ramps, those awful old crackling speakers, the dust and noise and concession-stand smells of cooking food. Little kids in Dr. Denton's playing on the playground that sat in front of the huge screen. Conversations from strolling teens moving from car to car. All of us patiently... and some not so patiently... waiting for the sun to go down. And, when it finally sank below the horizon, to be greeted by one of the 'feature presentation' videos you just shared with me. The excitement was palatable! I miss that very much!   Bobbie   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 AM Subject: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=PKX83HMVO1Q i know bobbie is into the old drive-ins, she might dig this if she doesn't know about it already. this youtube guy has a lot of these intros on his profile, the above is just what i think is the best one. i gather they only played these at drive-ins, and i sadly have never in my life gone to a drive-in, so i've never seen them before.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Ward

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:28 AM

Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo

ah im jealous! my folks would never take me to a drive-in because they thought they only played dirty movies there. (which where i lived was at least half true lol.) they always took me to arthouse stuff, but that was cool, i saw movies like "dark star" and "the cars that ate paris" there. i think there's a drive-in somewhere in west virginia, a 100 miles or so away, one of these days i'm gonna put a road trip together. the problem is, now the drive-ins play movies like shrek 3. dude mainstream hollywood is not drive in! gimme some larry crane! --- On Fri, 11/20/09, bobbie <mstjunkie@...> wrote: From: bobbie <mstjunkie@...> Subject: Re: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:14 AM   That was cool! Thanks! I shared it with Uni, my co-author.   It's a shame that you have never been to a drive-in! Drive-ins were more than just movie watching. They were an experience! The cars lining up on the ramps, those awful old crackling speakers, the dust and noise and concession-stand smells of cooking food. Little kids in Dr. Denton's playing on the playground that sat in front of the huge screen. Conversations from strolling teens moving from car to car. All of us patiently... and some not so patiently... waiting for the sun to go down. And, when it finally sank below the horizon, to be greeted by one of the 'feature presentation' videos you just shared with me. The excitement was palatable! I miss that very much!   Bobbie   ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Ward To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:16 AM Subject: [mst3k] OT: Attn Bobbie Starlog Drive-in Promo http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=PKX83HMVO1Q i know bobbie is into the old drive-ins, she might dig this if she doesn't know about it already. this youtube guy has a lot of these intros on his profile, the above is just what i think is the best one. i gather they only played these at drive-ins, and i sadly have never in my life gone to a drive-in, so i've never seen them before.

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From: Laura Hertzman

To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:53 PM

Subject: Re: [mst3k] Re: Guess the Riff!

I'm sorry for taking so long to restart this.  I don't have Internet access at my job.   So here we go:   "Now everyone knows there are no hotplates allowed in 9-mile Canyon!"   Laura --- On Wed, 11/18/09, NiceDoggy_64 <nicedoggy_64@...> wrote: From: NiceDoggy_64 <nicedoggy_64@...> Subject: [mst3k] Re: Guess the Riff! To: mst3k@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 8:32 PM   Ding-a-ding- a-ding-ding! Laura wins it! Take it, Laura! :) NiceDoggy --- In mst3k@yahoogroups. com, Laura Hertzman <rebecca_crane2006@ ...> wrote: > > Eegah! >   > Laura > > --- On Wed, 11/18/09, NiceDoggy_64 <nicedoggy_64@ ...> wrote: > > > From: NiceDoggy_64 <nicedoggy_64@ ...> > Subject: [mst3k] Re: Guess the Riff! > To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 1:46 PM > > >   > > > > This might be a bit of a gimme, but I find it hilarious so I need to share. > > "What the... they got demons flippin' us off! Back at ya, Clyde!" > > NiceDoggy > > --- In mst3k@yahoogroups. com, Les West <theaterbearco@ ...> wrote: > > > > That would be the one!! Your turn for giving us a riff!! :D > > > > Les :) > > > > --- On Tue, 11/17/09, NiceDoggy_64 <nicedoggy_64@ ...> wrote: > > > > From: NiceDoggy_64 <nicedoggy_64@ ...> > > Subject: [mst3k] Re: Guess the Riff! > > To: mst3k@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 7:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually had this one at the "Those were big dogs" riff, but I lurk so much I didn't reply at the time... > > > > > > > > Angels Revenge. > > > > > > > > (For those who need a refresher, the "dogs" were horses at the Jim Backus military compound.) > > > > > > > > NiceDoggy > > > > > > > > --- In mst3k@yahoogroups. com, Les West <theaterbearco@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ok Riff number 2 from the same movie. "I sense the liver spotted hand of Aaron Spelling behind this!" > > >

----- Original Message -----

From: Emily Sours

To: mst3k

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:19 AM

Subject: [mst3k] preorder price on amazon

Mystery Science Theater 3000: XVI [Limited Edition]

this is the release with the servo statue

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002NS5HOQ/ref=pe_5150_13680470_snp_dp

I don't know if this will be cheaper anywhere else, but there you go.

Emily

...the thrill of being close to that hidden knowledge. That's the way I feel when I read Nabokov. Encrypted within his words, encoded indecipherably, ambiguously, is the equivalent of the secret of lightning. Something akin to the secret code of higher human consciousness, the DNA, the genome of genius.
-Ron Rosenbaum