Hi Barbara
I think everybody left this group mostly due to the rogue spam mails
and/or busy lifestyles that kiwis all live. Or to quote someone that
once replied to a mail of yours or mine a while back "...if you wanted a
major discussion board you should join one of the overseas ones..." (ok
I ad-libbed a bit)

But sad to say in this day in age Barbara that in regard to the new
series the 'downloaded it, already watched it' is probably the truth for
most (me included). Although in Prime's defence I must say they got it
quite quickly, as the series only just finished on July 8 in the UK.
So as not to spoil it for you I will be vague in my comments, just to
say that overall I still love it. I feel the writers have done well with
ALL the New Doctor Who, which has gone from strength to strength with
each series. They have managed to keep the series "Doctor Who", while
bringing it into the 21st century... Except for having Catherine Tate as
a companion...Oh how I wish Kylie had been the new companion, and
Catherine had been sent dissipated all over the universe.
I have to disagree about The Doctor appearing to be funnier, in a nod to
Donna (Catherine) as: 1 I never found Catherine Tate funny, and 2 I feel
that this is just the characterization that David brings to the Doctor
(also in many episodes he shows a very unfunny and serious side to the
doctor), the jester style like say Patrick Troughton or Tom Baker.
As I've said before, the stories are just like a series of the old Who,
some funny, some scary, mostly intelligent, some flops but all
very"Whoesque". If I have one gripe about the fourth series, it is the
way that things keep coming back, like characters, monsters, you know
sometimes you think, was it just easier to bring some old foe's back
instead of making up new ones.

Torchwood, well that's a whole different mailing group isn't it? ;-)
Torchwood is great too. It's like a soft core porn Doctor Who/ X Files
and 70's British cop show all in one (although most of the soft core
porn is gay), and they've had some great writers on it with some great
stories, some more horror and some more sci-fi but all pretty racy too.
Good characters and some nice twists. Without the back story of Doctor
Who I reckon this programme would of stood up strong (and does) on it's
own. I thought they did have a story for where each person came from in
the second series, and also they had a bit about earlier Torchwood
groups in it too, or am I a bit ahead of myself again.

But maybe I am biased, as I also like the Sarah Jane Adventures, they
are aimed at the tweeny crowd (I think) but still good stories to watch,
and I am guessing we didn't get them over here yet, which will be a
shame as Doctor Who moves towards it's finally for this series and many
people will be scratching their heads at some bits.

Simon


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From: kiwifansofdoctorwho@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:kiwifansofdoctorwho@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kiwibushbaby
Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2008 10:18 a.m.
To: kiwifansofdoctorwho@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kiwi Fans of Doctor Who] New Series



Wow everyone is on holiday. Haven't had access to a computer for
a
month so I expected to see some posts about the new series but
nothing.
So what do you think of it? Good , bad or have you all
downloaded it
last year and haven't bothered watching it on tv?
A friend thought DW had been bummed down to Donna's level rather
than
dazzling her with techno babble. He also seems to be funnier
maybe as
a nod to Catherine Tate.
What about Torchwood? For those like me who waited for the tv
appearance did it live up to your expectations? Or did you want
some
explainations about the formation of that group?
Barbara







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