Thanks to all of you for joining my Joe Millionaire group.  Since this is the
high point of the year for reality shows I wanted to invite you to join some of
the groups for shows airing this summer.  By joining the group you will get
access to group discussions and get regular emails with previews and other
updates too.  Here is a not so brief rundown:

American Idol - The show is over but the tour will be going on this summer and
usually there is usually something going on.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/AmericanIdol/join

America's Got Talent - The show premieres Tuesday, June 23
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Americas_Got_Talent/join

The Bachelorette - The second episode aired last night
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Bachelor/join

Big Brother 11 - Premieres July 9th - Since the live feeds can get R rated, so
can this group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Big_Brother_11/join

Blonde Charity Mafia - A new show on The CW that premieres July 7
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Blonde_Charity_Mafia/join

Brooke Knows Best - Season 2 begins June 7
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Brooke_Knows_Best_Vh1/

Canada's Next Top Model - For those of you up north, the season debuted May 26
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Canadas_Next_Top_Model/join

The Cougar - The season ends this week
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Cougar/join

Dog the Bounty Hunter - Season 4 is in progress
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Dog_the_Bounty_Hunter/join

Don't Forget the Lyrics - Season began two weeks ago on FOX
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Dont_Forget_the_Lyrics/join

Expedition Africa - This Mark Burnett show just started this week on History. 
It's pretty cool.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Expediton_Africa/join

The Fashion Show - The Project Runway replacement on Bravo which began May 7
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Fashion_Show/join

Gene Simmons Family Jewels - Season 4 Premieres June 7
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gene_Simmons_Family_Jewels/join

Great American Road Trip - A new NBC show that debut's July 7.  Participants
travel America's legendary Route 66.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Great_American_Road_Trip/join

Here Come the Newlyweds - Season 2 premiered May 25
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Here_Come_the_Newlyweds/

Hitched or Ditched - This CW show debuted May 26
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hitched_or_Ditched/join

Ice Road Truckers - This show just began season 3 on Sunday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Road_Truckers/join

I'm a Celebrity - Get Me Out of Here - This started last night on NBC
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/ImaCelebrity_GetMeOutofHere/join

Intervention - Season 7 debuted May 25
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Intervention_Show/join

Kathy Griffin: My Life on the D-List - Season 5 premieres June 8
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kathy_Griffin_My_Life_on_the_D_List/join

Kendra - Formerly of The Girls Next Door, her new series begins June 7
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Kendra_Show/join

Make Me a Supermodel - This shows season is almost done:
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Make_Me_a_Supermodel/join

Miami Social  - This premieres on Bravo July 14
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Miami_Social/join

Million Dollar Password - Just began last Sunday on CBS
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Million_Dollar_Pass_word/join

More to Love - A plus sized dating show.  The premiere date has not been
announced.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/More_to_Love/join

The Next Food Network Star - The season begins June 7
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Next_Food_Network_Star/join

NYC Prep - A new series on Bravo that begins June 16
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/NYC_Prep/join

Paris Hilton's My New BFF - Season 2 begins tonight June 2
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Paris_Hiltons_My_New_BFF/join

The Shark Tank, an entrepreneurial show - This premieres this fall but they are
casting now
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Shark_Tank_Show/join

Shear Genius - The third season is in casting but a premiere has not been
announced yet
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shear_Genius/join

So You Think You Can Dance - Season 5 debuted May 21
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/So_You_Think_You_Can_Dance/join

The Superstars - a new ABC sports themed show that premieres June 23
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Superstars_Show/join

Top Chef - The new "Masters" edition begins June 10
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Top_Chef/join

Wipeout - Season 2 began on ABC May 27
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wipeout_Show/join

Finally a few new summer scripted series too:

The Listener
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Listener_Show/join

The Philanthropist
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Philanthropist/join

Merlin
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Merlin_Show/join

Mental (on FOX)
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Mental_Show/join

Have a great summer!

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:36:42 -0000, sadmad55 wrote:


>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mLYN36i5zc&feature=related


>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX1yvfb0W4w

>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33UAn57n60E&feature=related
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10g8kLad134&feature=related


Remarkable!

Actually, it's hard to believe that this whole thing went on more than 5
years ago!!!

Looking at the European girls now, it's astonishing that cowboy David from
Texas could possibly have been deemed desirable by any of them, and that the
producers managed to make us believe that it was possible.

What a crazy idea for a TV show.

--
//
//   Darryl Sperber <darryl@...>
//

--- In joemillionaire@yahoogroups.com, Joel Cotterell <black_oath@...> wrote: I
wonder if any of the other girls have anything up on youtube...
>


Ask and ye shall receive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX1yvfb0W4w


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33UAn57n60E&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10g8kLad134&feature=related


The last one is on loan from The Museum Of Hard To Believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mLYN36i5zc&feature=related

Dear Linda,

Just viewed you resume tape. With your experience and expertise in the field of
investment portfolios, you may be just the person to assist me.

My uncle, who has made a great deal of money in the oil business in Texas, set
up a trust fund for me years ago under the condition that it would not pass on
to my control until my 25th birthday. Having recently turned 25, ownership of
the trust was assumed by myself. The amount generated in it is quite substantial
-- EIGHTY     MILLION     DOLLARS. Among the other assets coming under the
umbrella of this trust is a villa in Tuscany, Italy, complete with a major domo
and staff.

Up to now, my lifestyle is what some would call simple. My earnings in the last
year totalled no more than $11,000. In fact, most evenings would find me
sleeping in the back of my pick-up truck. So, as you might expect, this new
lifestyle and the responsibilities it entails is certainly daunting.

Thirteen other potential portfolio managers approached me. But you stood out
among all the others, right from the beginning. So my choice is you.

Will you accept my proposal and handle my investments? If you're amenable, could
me meet at the What-A-Burger near Golden Gate Park to discuss further details?

Thanks. You're an angel.

Very truly yours,
Joe Millionaire II

BERNARD L. MADOFF INVESTMENT SECURITIES, LLC
885 THIRD AVENUE
NEW YORK, NY 10022


TO -- Ms. Linda Kazdova
FROM -- I. Emma Swindler, Director of Personnel
SUBJECT -- Future employment


Dear Ms. Kazdova,

A copy of your resume tape was recently forwarded to me, and I would very much
like to meet with you to discuss career opportunities with our firm.

As you may be aware, the Madoff company has been the focus of much untoward
publicity in recent months. As much as it is our desire to put that unpleasant
business behind us, we are earnestly looking forward to doing what we can to
rehabilitate our image in the eyes of the public. Accordingly, our future focus
will place, only secondarily, an emphasis on recruiting personnel well versed in
investment and market transactions.

Instead, of primary interest will be putting a corporate 'face' on the Madoff
firm which will inspire a sense of honesty and trust in the eyes of a skeptical
public in our future endeavors.

After viewing your resume tape, and seeing the sense of sincerity you were able
to convey while looking straight into that camera, as well as reviewing the
details of the transfer of assets transaction you facilitated with FOX
Television back in 2003, it is our feeling that you would fit perfectly in the
Madoff enviornment.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Very truly yours,
Emma

Greetings all.

The world-wide recession has made itself felt in many areas. The job market is
extremely tight in the old US of A right now. Even the most qualified of job
seekers are finding it a tough go. The successful applicant must do a good job
of marketing one's self. This candidate would surely appear to be an asset to
any company.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mLYN36i5zc&feature=related


She projects honesty, does not appear to be indecisive or the type of person who
would be easily manipulated by others, and could be counted on to not desert a
potential employer during a time of crisis or stress -- or need to be induced to
return with promises of financial renumeration.

As impressive as this candidate's resume already seems to be, she also appears
to be somewhat modest; never even mentioning her role in overseeing the transfer
of $250,000 from FOX Television to an unnamed Czech cartel, accrued in only a
few short, but enterprising, weeks back in 2003. Or her additional, and
extensive, experience in scripts, or in the area of 'scripting' from back at
that same period of time.

As noted, the job market being constrained as it is, might require job seekers
to re-locate. Could this applicant be induced, then, to re-locate from the
Golden Gate portion of the Golden State to, say, Texas?

Hello,

Thanks to all of you for joining my Joe Millionaire group.  You are all
invited to join my new group for NBC's new dating reality series
Momma's Boys.  The series centers on three possessive, yet loving
mothers who must help their complacent sons choose the perfect woman.

Here is the link to join the group:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Mommas_Boys/join

Thanks!

--- In joemillionaire@yahoogroups.com,
"ggstevens72" <ggstevens72@...> wrote:
>
>
> Where have all the "Cat" people gone ? No action here for awhile !
> Doesn't anyone have any updates ?
>
Cat is Cat Wegner
She is working for rocket science labratories
She is working on "Trading Spouses"
she has a page on my space
now living in the US

sadmad: What to think about this, you ask? First of all, you kind of
wonder who this 'source close to David', who they cite in the
article, might be.

OS: Got a guess? He, himself, was never actually quoted in the
article.

sadmad: If I had to hazard a guess (and that's all it would be, of
ccourse) it would be his girlfriend. She probably heard the whole
story from him. The subject of Linda might be a touchy subject with
him. Still.

MM: How so?

sadmad: Well, I look at that business of the 'source close to David'
saying there wasn't any love or romance or sex on the show. Okay, we
know there wasn't any sex between him and any of the girls. Those
sequences with him and Anique and Cat and Olinda which suggested
that were all a product of clever, but shamelessly deceitful,
editing. But as far as love or romance, well, I think he had
feelings for Cat, and especially for Linda, don't you?

MM: Yeah.

sadmad: Okay, my thought here is that David might harbor some
palpable bitterness toward Linda. He was hurt. And can you blame
him? He received his degree from University of Prague's School of
Hard Knocks.

OS: So to cover up the hurt of being taken in by Linda, he tells
everyone he knows that HE didn't actually have any feelings for HER?

sadmad: That's my guess.

MM: Yeah, I can see that.

OS: What's there to say about Linda then?

sadmad: Again, I'm still just taken aback at what we heard from her
in that interview she gave to the guy from the Prague Post after the
show had aired in the Czech Republic. In retrospect it's becoming
more and more surreal. I'm having difficulty thinking of another
word. Here's a game you might want to play some time - get some
friends together and go through that interview again (as she
recounts her 'version' of what went on during the show) - then get
everyone to drink a shot of bourbon every time you spot a lie.

MM: (laughs) That might make for a real bender.

OS: Yeah. And just as surreal is Karolina referring to Linda as
a 'sweet and amazing lady' while trashing Cat's character and
motivations.

sadmad: Talk about irony! What a pair, those two. I wonder if 'sweet
amd amazing' translates into Czech as something close to 'conniving
and duplicitous' in English?

MM: Hah! Good one, sadmad. Yeah, the editing made Linda come off as
a 'sweet and amazing lady', didn't it?

OS: I guess it just goes back to what we were saying before about
how the more closely you look at 'Reality TV' the more sordid and
squalid it seems to become.

sadmad: You said it. I think the bottom line here is that the ONLY
good thing about JM2; the only good thing about the WHOLE history
of 'Reality TV' for that matter, is -

MM & OS (in unison): Cat!

sadmad: Correctamundo!

OS: Thanks for coming by again, sadmad.

sadmad: Any time, guys. Any time.

sadmad: Let's see - it cites 'a source close to David' as saying
that he found out that that girl (Linda) had only been trying to use
him to try to obtain residency here in the United States. Well, well!

MM: Thought you'd like that.

sadmad: Isn't that what those shameless (expletive deleted) JM2
editors/producers tried to insinuate Cat as trying to do?

MM: Nice irony, huh?

sadmad: The article goes on to say how 'that girl' pocketed a check
for $250k for 'winning' and then 'dropped out of sight'. A none to
flattering portrait of Linda, this article paints, to say the least.

OS: Yes, it would appear David (and those who are close to him) seem
to be quite bitter at Ms. L.

sadmad: I would say.

MM: Read the next part.

sadmad: It, once again, cites this 'source close to David' as saying
there wasn't any romance or sex on the show, and that David said
that 'they' (the editors/producers) could make you believe the moon
was made of green cheese'. (laughs) My, oh my!

OS: So, what do you make of all this sadmad?


(Part III to follow.)

Once again, I received yet another message to appear at a Kansas
City hotel, one, by now, very familiar to me. When I got there, I
was, once again, led to the same room/suite where I found myself
face-to-face, once again, with filmmakers Michael Moore and Oliver
Stone.

And, once again, I'm providing you all with a transcript of that
encounter -

sadmad: I didn't think I'd be hearing from you guys for a while. Do
you realize we have a heat index here in town of well over 100
degrees? This had better be good.

OS: Oh, quit your bitchin', sadmad. The place is air-conditioned,
isn't it? You ain't sufferin' any.

MM: You don't think we'd get in touch with you again if it wasn't
something good, do you?

sadmad: Okay, then, what is it?

OS: Here - take a look at this.

sadmad: The 'National Enquirer'? Are you freakin' kidding me?

MM: Well, take a look it, why don't you?

sadmad: This rag? Yeesh! Tabloid journalism at some of it's most
insipid.

OS: Well, we're not inclined to argue with you too much about that.

sadmad: The front page of this issue is devoted to showing us
paparazzi photos of celebrities in bikinis who display a little too
much cellulite on their posteriors. Wonderful.

MM: No, not that. Look inside a little ways.

sadmad: (sigh) Oh, alright. Let's see. Hello - what's this? It's an
article about our own David Smith!

MM: That's the one.

sadmad: Hmmm. It says that David (the '28-year-old hunk') is
currently living on the Texas ranch he received at the end of the
show. It says he lives there with his girlfriend - a local girl. It
also says he's traded in the rodeo in order to be a volunteer deputy
sheriff; that he receives no pay for such, but that he's still
liscensed to carry a gun and make arrests. Well, what do you know?

OS: Interesting, huh? Read on.

sadmad: It tells how he appeared in the show a few years back and
selected the 'beautiful model' Linda Kazdova to be his sweetheart at
the end of it, but -

MM: Yeah, this is the part we wanted you to see.


(Part II to follow)

Whoah, thanks dude :) . Bit disappointing for me - looks like my mind's been
made up, I'm moving to the Cat camp.

On a semi-related note, anyone watching Rock of Love With Bret Michaels?


>From: Darryl Sperber <darryl@...>
>Reply-To: joemillionaire@yahoogroups.com
>To: joemillionaire@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [joemillionaire] David Smith article in 8/13 Enquirer
>Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:42:57 -0700
>
>
>FYI
>


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FYI

OS: Hey, sadmad - do you remember the elimination sequence following
the group dates?

sadmad: Sure. What about it?

OS: Do you recall that when Paul called out Allessia's name, she came
up to David, and when he puts the necklace on her, she smiles and
laughs and then gives him a rose that he puts on his shirt.

sadmad: So?

OS: Did you also happen to notice what she was wearing then?

sadmad: Help me out.

OS: It was a tight-fitting, lowcut dress.

sadmad: Again - so?

OS: Well, that rose was nowhere on her person when she was seen
standing there with the others - at least visable. I don't know where
you could have had kept that rose with the outfit she had on then.

sadmad: Huh? I still don't get you.

MM: Do you also happen to recall that sequence where Anique and David
went for lunch at the little streetside cafe in Rome?

sadmad: Yeah.

MM: Right after they sat down, as you'll recall, David gives her a
box containing the gift of the toy helicopter.

sadmad: And?

MM: Well, if you watched them as they got out of the carriage, David
was not seen carrying any package with him into the cafe.

sadmad: Meaning what?

OS: Meaning that, in each case, Allesia's rose and Anique's toy
helicopter just seemed to kind of materialize out of nowhere, didn't
they?

sadmad: Uh-oh. I think I get it now. You're suggesting that both of
those little sequences were staged? That they stopped the freakin'
cameras and gave Allesia the rose and gave the package with the toy
helicopter, got out of the picture, and then rolled tape again?

MM: You said that. We didn't.

sadmad: (sighs) Yeesh!

OS: C'mon, sadmad - it's not that farfetched. The most obvious
example of something that was scripted was that business of David
producing that T-Mobile picture phone on the pier in Venice, where he
gets Linda to pose, and the image is then relayed back to Paul in the
hotel.

sadmad: (laughs) Pretty obvious promotional gambit, wasn't it?
Speaking of things that were scripted, well, I'd count Paul's asides
to the audience before and after each episode, right?

MM: Of course. As well as that business we heard from him during the
ranch date about how he heard the other girls trying to get Linda to
leave - 'I hope she doesn't listen to them'. Ha ha!

OS: And don't forget David's note he unfolds from his pocket, which
he gets Linda to read.

sadmad: You think?

MM: And, of course, the note Paul reads to him on his ranch that he
says is from Linda about how she left him not because he didn't have
the money, but because of 'the lie'.

sadmad: (laughs). I would guess so. Hey, speaking of those statues on
Easter Island, as interesting as this new 'revelation' of yours was,
it seems like we're still not really any closer to knowing what was
actually real about what we saw on the show, are we?

OS: No, I guess not.

MM: Frustrating, isn't it?

sadmad: Indeed.

OS: Well, that's really about it for now, sadmad.

sadmad: Okay. Um, I see where your new film "Sicko" has been released
here recently, Michael. Good luck with that.

MM: Thanks.

sadmad: And I should probably tell you Oliver that a new book has
just come out recently by Vincent Bugliosi called "Reclaiming
History". It's about 1600 pages and it debunks virtually every myth
attendant to the assassination of John F. Kennedy. And, um, he's
particularly scathing in his references to your film "JFK", to put it
mildly.

OS: Yeah, well -

sadmad: Heh, you know what guys - despite all the distortions and
fabrications we've uncovered in JM2, I'm still going to say something
that might surprise you.

MM: Oh, what's that?

sadmad: That the very same "The Next Joe Millionaire" contained THE
central truth of the 21st Century.

MM: Huh?

OS: What in the world are you talking about?

sadmad: Simple. It's heard during the finale. David sits down across
from Cat on that couch or sofa in one of the rooms in the Villa. And
he says to her 'The guy who gets you is going to be the luckiest guy
in the world'.

MM: You are truly one for the books, sadmad.

sadmad: Take care, guys. Keep in touch.

OS: We'll try to.

sadmad: I've got a couple of other observations involving the final
episode which, even after all this time, still have me buffaloed.

MM: Fire away.

sadmad: As we discussed previously, Karolina made some remarks pretty
much scoffing at the idea that Cat actually had any genuine feelings
for David. But then, near the end, Linda is heard to say in a
voiceover -

OS: Uh-oh! Voiceover! Always trouble.

sadmad: Yeah, I understand that. But I listened to this one several
times and, for the life of me, I couldn't detect any telltale cut and
paste edit.

MM: Which one are you referring to?

sadmad: It's when Cat and Linda are seated together at a table there
in the Villa right after Petra's elimination. We hear Linda say 'I
definitely think Cat likes David'. Do you guys remember that?

OS: You're absolutely right. That really got our attention, too. Like
you, we couldn't detect any cut and paste edit on there either.

MM: Shortly after that, we hear Linda say 'I didn't know that Cat had
any feelings for him at the beginning, and all of a sudden she really
seems to like him a lot'.

sadmad: So what do you make of that? Did Linda not get the memo from
Karolina about Cat then?

MM: Baffling.

sadmad: You'd think that it maybe would have played better at that
stage of the proceedings if Linda had voiced pessimism about Cat's
feelings for David. After all that was a theme the editors had tried
to propagate throughout most of the show - giving us interview clips
of Olinda saying that very thing. I would think that if she had had
any doubt about that, she just wouldn't have said anything.

OS: True.

MM: (laughs) Sorry, sadmad. We got nothing for you.

sadmad: What was even more baffling was hearing Linda say to Cat
then 'It's, like, very strange, but somehow I feel that it's, like,
right that it's me and you who are here for the last. We've been,
like, the most, you know, real and genuine persons since the
beginning.'

OS: Yep. And the thing was, that wasn't any voiceover either, of
course. We actually see Linda saying this to Cat directly.

sadmad: Exactly. 'Real' and 'genuine' are an interesting choice of
words for her to apply toward someone her pal Karolina would accuse
of playing up to David the whole time in order to win, after having
found out, of course, about what the real premise of the show was
through surreptitious or underhanded agencies.

MM: Absolutely.

sadmad: And 'real' and 'genuine' were also an interesting choice of
words for her to apply toward someone she, herself, would later
accuse of going behind her back and telling David personal and
privilged information (as to her desire to -- and reason for wanting
to -- leave the show at the time of the 'Ranch Date') - like she did
in that interview to the guy from the Prague Post.

OS: Again - so very true.

sadmad: Interesting that Cat never says anything back to Linda about
HER being real and genuine.

MM: Unless, with that business about Cat being 'real' and 'genuine',
Linda was being facetious?

sadmad: Hmmm. Remember, we get to look right at Linda when she said
that to Cat. If there was any facetiousness or irony in that
statement, well, all I can say is that her facial expression or body
language doesn't, in any way, betray that.

OS: Statues on Easter Island, sadmad. Statues on Easter Island.


(Part X-e to follow.)

MM: In the final episode, as the tension mounts as to which one of
the two girls David is going to pick, both Cat and Linda are heard
making a number of comments about their feelings of what their status
is with regard to the end of the 'competition'. Linda's statements,
you'll recall, are frought with a tone of anxious concern -

OS: - like when we see her standing in front of a window looking out
upon the grounds of the Villa and saying 'I'm still doubting if he
loves me'.

MM: Of course we should probably make sure the word 'statement' is
understood to be taken with our large dose of salt again since
the 'I'm still doubting if he loves me' we heard from Linda there,
was, of course, a cut and paste edit - "I'm still doubting if"//"he
loves me."

OS: But continuing this 'Linda in a dither' theme we were being being
handed, Linda is also seen in an interview segment saying 'I found
what I've been looking for, but it doesn't mean I'm sure about his
feelings for me'.

sadmad: I remember that.

MM: Linda is shown in a medium close-up as she says this, right up to
the point of when says "I found what I've been looking for, but it
doesn't mean I'm sure about his"/ -

OS: - then they cut away from Linda herself while we heard "feelings
for me", which was pasted on there from somewhere else.

sadmad: So we're left to ponder what it was, exactly, she wasn't sure
about? She wasn't sure about his - what?

OS: Also what it was she was looking for.

MM: And how or where she found it.

sadmad: (laughs) You guys are such (expletive deleted).

OS: But the most intriguing instance we came up with, in retrospect,
was another seemingly innocuous statement from Linda made during the
build-up to the selection. Linda is heard in another interview
segment saying 'I'm still doubting if I'm the one he's going to
choose.'

OS: Cut and paste edit again, sadmad.

sadmad: Yeah, I figured.

MM: Now the first part of that statement "I'm still doubting if"/ -
was also used in the "I'm still doubting if"/"he loves me." clip
mentioned previously.

OS: So the part that 'I'm still doubting if' clip was pasted onto was
that of Linda saying "I'm the one he's going to choose"!

sadmad: Whoa!

MM: Exactly.

sadmad: Whoa!

MM: It does tend to make one wonder what context she made THAT
statement in, then, doesn't it?


(Part X-d to follow)...

sadmad: You know guys, there are still a few questions I have with
regard to what we saw on the show that maybe you might be able to
shed some light on for me.

MM: Let's hear 'em.

sadmad: After Linda meets David for their final luncheon date, she
goes back to the Villa where she sits down across a table from Cat.
She then takes a swig out of some bottled water, gives out a kind of
a sigh, and says to Cat 'I'm not sure if I'm even supposed to be here
anymore'. Now, in light of the new information we've acquired, what
in the world could that have possibly meant?

OS: Hmmm. Yes. Strange. Very strange, indeed. Statues on Easter
Island, sadmad.

sadmad: Huh?

MM: It's like we said before, sadmad - sometimes figuring out what
was real or not real or what was actually going on during a sequence
on this show is more baffling than trying to figure out how those
huge statues on Easter Island ever got there. I have no freakin' clue.

OS: Me either. One school of thought has suggested the possibility
that Linda agreed to come back to the show on condition she
would 'win', but that as things moved toward the denouement, she
started wondering if FOX/RSL was going to spring another little
surprise on her.

sadmad: How so?

OS: Meaning she became paranoid that, despite what she may have
thought, those same FOX/RSL producers (who really were capable of
anything) were going to pull a fast one and turn the tables on her.

sadmad: I still don't get you.

OS: That Linda began to worry that FOX would play her for a fool and
allow Cat to 'win' in the end anyway.

sadmad: Accounting for a sometimes unusual 'shading' in the tone of
her performance at the end?

OS: Right. It's an interesting theory, isn't it?

MM: Yeah. Looking back, however, there are a couple of examples where
it really looked like Linda seemed pretty sure of herself. The first
was when she meets him again for the first time on that Tuscan ranch
after she came back. The tone in her voice as she said "Hi, David!" -
sounding for all the world as if she was announcing 'Hi, David! Here
I am! The answer to your prayers!

sadmad: Heh. Very true. You'd also have to look at how, there in
Venice, after being away from the goings-on for so long, she pushes
David away when he tries to kiss her making him feel like a putz. Not
exactly behavior you would apply to someone who may have felt she was
trying to make up for lost time in competition with the others.

MM: Agreed. Unless that kiss attempt and rebuff had been,
er, 'scripted', that is.

OS: No telling. And go back to an interview segment we were given of
Linda that appeared after the Venice episode. Linda, in close-up,
looks to be wearing a red top. But it didn't look like anything we
had seen her wear in any of the segments with David or the other
girls - so who knows when it was actually taped. It was in the
context of Linda having missed so much of the other parts of the
show, while Cat had been there all the way through - and we hear her
say something about how Cat is beautiful, but 'she had her chance'.

sadmad: I remember that.

MM: Well, there is a school of thought which suggested that Linda may
have let the cat out of the bag, so to speak, right there.

OS: There may have been other such examples where the editors left
evidence in the final cut - either out of laxity, or even possibly as
a sort of an inside joke among themselves, never figuring the
audience would ever catch.

sadmad: Such as?


(Part X-c to follow)...

sadmad: Look, let me review the ABC's of this one more time.

MM: Please do.

sadmad: I want to go back again to that interview Linda gave to that
guy from the Prague Post a year after she appeared on JM2. He asks
her "What did you expect to happen during the 30 days of the show?"
And she says "I was expecting adventure. It was really exciting for
me to go and film the show. I thought it was a good combination of my
experience of modeling and traveling-".

OS: So? The idea pitched to the girls by the FOX/RSL casting people
(a group of American guys interacting with a group of European girls)
would have probably sounded wildly exciting and interesting.

MM: And Linda was perfect for they wanted.

sadmad: Sure she was. Like any other young, single, English-speaking
girl at the time, the opportunity to appear on a show like that would
have been a grand adventure. Absolutely. No question whatsoever.

MM: Especially for someone like her who was, as she said, looking for
a possible career in television or to further her modeling career.

sadmad: True. No argument at all.

OS: So?

sadmad: Allow me to read to you the remaining part to that quote or
reply from Linda, after he asks her what she was expecting or looking
for when she signed on to do the show - "and I was hoping I would
meet the right guy."

OS: Oops!

sadmad: No you weren't Linda. 'Oops!' is right. I don't have a
problem with you looking at appearing on the show as an adventure, a
lark for you and your buddy Karolina to participate in together. But
you were not looking for the 'right guy'. Because you already had a
boyfriend back in Prague.

MM: Dang, you're right.

sadmad: That story has been corroborated by two other girls who
appeared on the show. Even so, the problem I have is not that she
went on a reality TV dating show when she already had a boyfriend. Or
that she lied about that to the interviewer there. Or that, after she
got on the show, she found she missed the guy and wanted to leave the
goings-on to get back to him. Or that the idea of living or staying
on a ranch in Texas was anathema to her-

OS: - As it probably would have been for any of those JM2 girls.

MM: Be honest, sadmad - don't you sometimes have a reservation or two
about the idea of an ultra cool, hip girl like Cat living on a Texas
ranch, as well?

sadmad: Yeah, I've thought about that some, to be sure. But you're
bringing up hypotheticals. I'm talking about what we know. And,
again, we're straying from the point.

OS: Which is?

sadmad: Which is that Karolina addressed fans of the show after it
had aired offering 'insider' information of what had gone on. And
instead of saying 'I know all, or most, of what transpired during the
making of the show, and a lot of what you saw is not what really
happened. I know all the principals (Cat, David, Linda and all the
rest.) And, sadly, everyone was involved, to some degree, with those
deceptions and manipulations. Everyone's image was altered in some
manner by the editing'-

MM; Leaving a little room for some gray on the canvass, you mean?

sadmad: Right. But instead of that, she attempted to present a
whitewash, pure and simple. 'I'm here to tell you that the image you
all have of Cat as a sweet, wonderful girl is laughable', she told us
empathatically. 'But my pal Linda is a sweet and amazing lady and I
won't listen to any of you question HER character, or HER motives!
(Even though I just watched her look right into the camera at the end
and talk about how the prospect of city life now paled in contrast to
being on David's ranch and previously tell him he had made her dream
come through by asking her back - when I knew the truth resided
elsewhere.'

OS: And if she DID know about the 'deal', well -

MM: Well, then, you don't even need to finish, do you?

OS: So the point is that, bearing everything in mind, you might want
to garnish Linda and Karolina's version of events with one or two
granules of NaCl?

MM: And apply that word 'context' again to all of Karolina's cataract
of poison-pen allegations made toward Cat into the bargain?

sadmad: That's it in a nutshell.

MM: I feel like putting my hand through a wall now, too.


(Part X-b to follow.)

OS: What I'm about to say here might be viewed with more than a
little irony coming from one of us.

sadmad: What's that?

OS: Well, since you brought up the various things Karolina said in
her post-show internet incarnations, I'll point out something else
she said, albeit with a certain wariness to be sure.

sadmad: Why?

OS: In order to be fair.

sadmad: Since when are you two guys suddenly so interested in being
fair? Oh, never mind. Go ahead.

OS: When Karolina discussed Linda's feelings about David and her
relationship with him, she said that since David was 'the guy', the
person at the center, if you will, of the whole show, Linda was
flattered by the attention he paid to her among all the other girls
there, as well as by the affection he showed to her, and she
responded to him because of that. But when everything was all done
with, and the show was over, Linda was left to recognize that they
were from two different worlds - with nothing really in common. And
that once the rosy afterglow of the limited time they spent together
on the show was over, what were they left with?

sadmad: Well?

MM: That does sound believable. Kind of. Doesn't it?

OS: What she's saying is that within the intense, cloistered,
fishbowl enviornment of what went on during the making of the show,
relationships can be forged that will dissiptate when that
enviornment and those factors no longer exist.

MM: Which is a phenomenon, by the way, that's endemic to a lot of
reality television shows. As well as on motion picture sets, I may
add.

sadmad: Look guys, believe me, I'm as romantic and sentimental, at
heart, as anyone you can find. How do you think I glombed onto this
show in the first place? I would love to ascribe that version of
events as an explanation, in the wake of what happened between the
two of them.

MM: So?

sadmad: Hmmm. I think I understand. You guys are still not convinced,
with regard to this whole assault on Karolina, that it isn't just a
case of my shooting the messenger, aren't you?

OS: Well?

sadmad: Unfortunately, I'd still say there's too much contrary
evidence to change my feelings about Karolina and the things she said.

MM: How so?


(Part X-a to follow.)

sadmad: So I'm not just making a mountain out of a proverbial
molehill out of this, am I?

OS: No. I think we see the light, brother sadmad.

sadmad: Again, let me make sure I'm explaining myself correctly. With
the case of FOX/RSL, some might be tempted to exonerate them, to a
degree, by ascribing their actions to that old adage 'Well, that's
show biz!'

MM: You mean they had assigned millions of dollars to going over
there to Italy and putting together a show, and the bottom line was
that they were all charged with coming up with SOMETHING to titillate
viewers and draw an audience. And the ends, for them, justified the
means?

OS: Hey, it certainly wouldn't be the first time in the history of
television or motion pictures that directors, editors and producers
manipulated 'reality' with clever editing tricks and so forth.

sadmad: Very true, Oliver. Remember, as I told you, I saw "JFK".

OS: Um, er, um -

MM: (laughs) Good one, sadmad!

sadmad: And I wouldn't laugh too hard, there, Michael. I
saw "Fahrenheit 9/11" as well.

OS: Hah!

MM: _____ off, Stone!

sadmad: Alright, I'm not prepared to exonerate the editors and
producers of JM2 for their chicanery and deceit. I'm just pointing
out their behavior within a context. As far as Linda is concerned,
I'm more willing to issue some leniency on her behalf since, as I
said, she appears to have wanted to get away but was corrupted by
FOX/RSL to come back again. That 'deal' would have been difficult for
a lot of people to have turned down.

MM: You're weakening, sadmad!

sadmad: Again, I'm not exonerating Linda, I'm just trying, out of
fairness, to put her actions within a context.

OS: Speaking of being fair, sadmad, let me offer another contingency.
Despite their being best pals and all, what if, out of embarrassment,
Linda never told Karolina about the 'deal'?

sadmad: Huh?

OS: That she never told Karolina about agreeing to come back and
perform like a trained seal for them under the guarantee that she
would 'win'?

sadmad: Hmmm.

MM: So, under that scenario, wouldn't you have to exonerate Karolina
then, too?

sadmad: Okay, I see what you're saying. There are a few aspects of
what went on, in that scenario, that Karolina could possibly have not
been aware of when she authored the various remarks we've discussed.
But let me emphasize that word 'possibly' when discussing what
Karolina may or may not have known.

MM: So?

sadmad: Whatever Karolina may NOT have known, she certainly DID know
the real reason her pal Linda wanted to leave the show being due to
her missing her boyfriend back in Prague. When someone asked her
about that, specifically, she responded back in one of her posts by
saying 'that's Linda's own personal business' and wouldn't discuss it.

OS: You're right. She did, didn't she?

MM: Yeah.

sadmad: So she KNOWS Linda's feelings at the time she was on the show
were 'genuine' about someone altogether different from David - but
then she was more than willing to trash Cat and publicly scoff at the
notion that SHE didn't actually have any 'genuine' feelings for him!

OS: True. So true.

sadmad: While some of us started questioning Linda and wondering
(after she 'broke off' with David) if he had made the right choice at
the end, Karolina made some other remark about how (while watching
the show) she couldn't believe some of the things she heard Cat say
to David or about David - implying total disingenuousness on Cat's
part. And that if David had picked Cat, instead of her pal Linda, she
(Cat) wouldn't have stayed with him for a single day. Do you remember?

MM: Uh-huh.

sadmad: She authored that remark well AFTER she had watched the show,
did she not?

MM: Yeah.

sadmad: Well after, in other words, having watched the same show we
all had where we had seen her pal Linda look right into the camera at
the end and go on about how she loved the beauty of the land on
David's new ranch and how she felt so much more comfortable there
than in some large city.

OS: So?

sadmad: When she well knew (as Linda's best pal) that the thought of
EVER living on a cattle ranch in Texas with David or anyone else, for
even 'one day', would have evoked from our cosmopolitan Linda a
reaction similar to Paris Hilton's when she was ordered back to jail!

MM: Touche'!

sadmad: So you see? Even if we apply the caveat that Karolina may not
have known about her pal Linda's agreeing to return to the show and
then willingly going along with what she knew was a fabricated
version of events for personal financial gain -

OS: - the likelihood of which, noting their close friendship, would
certainly be questionable -

sadmad: - she STILL covered herself with enough shameless hypocrisy
and just plain cattiness (pardon the pun) to eclipse the other two
easily. At least in my eyes. Where, may I ask, is the context for
possible exoneration for her there?

MM: Where, indeed?


(Part X to follow.)

Oooooh, some very interesting (though saddening) ideas coming up. Keep the
"transcripts" coming!


>From: "sadmad55" <sadmad55@...>
>Reply-To: joemillionaire@yahoogroups.com
>To: joemillionaire@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [joemillionaire] Print The Legend Update (Part IX-a)...
>Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:59:02 -0000
>
>OS: Let me take a wild guess at what your issue is here, sadmad -
>
>MM: - I'll bet I know too.
>
>OS: You're ticked off at Karolina for all the poison-pen stuff she
>said about Cat, aren't you?
>
>sadmad: Yeah? So what if I am?
>
>MM: I knew it! You're still sweet on Cat, aren't you?
>
>sadmad: Again, so what if I am? To me, that's beside the point
>entirely.
>
>MM: Oh? How so?
>
>sadmad: I want to go back to something you said just a little ways
>back, Oliver. You said you thought Karolina was being 'candid' in the
>stuff she put out back then, didn't you?
>
>OS: Yeah. Look, sadmad, you said yourself that Karolina shouldn't be
>considered a bad person just because she was brutally honest in
>stating her lack of interest in David as a guy. So how can she be
>considered a bad person simply because she was just as candid in
>telling everyone how much she didn't like Cat?
>
>MM: Same thing isn't it?
>
>sadmad: Man, you guys just don't get it, do you? In my mind, the last
>time I remember someone being as 'brutally honest' and 'candid' as
>Karolina was in her post-show revelations on this and other
>mesageboards, was when I saw that guy look right into a bank of
>television cameras a few years back and wag his finger at all of us
>and say, without blinking, 'Ah did not have sex with that woman!'
>
>OS: Huh?
>
>sadmad: As I said, she's entitled to her opinion about David. That's
>not the issue. This applies SPECIFICALLY to the things she implied or
>said about Cat. I get so mad when I think of what she was implying
>about Cat, I want to put my hand through a wall!
>
>MM: Hey, settle down big guy!
>
>sadmad: The absolute nerve of that (expletive deleted) woman to imply
>the things she did about Cat! The absolute (expletive deleted) nerve!
>ESPECIALLY with what we know now! It's just UN-(expletive deleted)-
>ING unconscionable!
>
>OS: Whoa! Get an ice pack, Michael - he just put his fist through the
>wall!
>
>
>(Part IX-b to follow.)
>
>
>

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MM: Okay, hold that ice pack on your hand, there, sadmad. And try not
to get all worked up.

sadmad: I can't help it. It makes me furious every time I think about
it.

OS: Well, let it out then. We're listening.

sadmad: Alright, as you're no doubt aware, Karolina (aka 'karcacz'
and 'prontissima') accused Cat of playing up to David the whole way
in order to 'win' despite not really having any genuine feelings for
him.

MM: Right.

sadmad: She accuses Cat of 'playing up to David in order to win' when
she, as Linda's best pal, knew that Linda actually had genuine
feelings for another guy entirely, the boyfriend back in Prague, at
the time she went on the show. Someone she apparently felt so
strongly about that she threw a big crying jag in front of all
concerned because she wanted to get back to him so badly.

MM: Wow!

sadmad: Yet she made that accusation after watching the show and
seeing her pal Linda come back and utter all these gooey platitudes
about, and to, David - more likely as not knowing about Linda's doing
that AFTER she had agreed to the 'deal' by FOX.

OS: Wow!

sadmad: She accused Cat of receiving unfair assistance or breaks from
unnamed members of the production staff; assistance, she implied,
that abetted Cat in the 'competition' with the others.

OS: Right.

sadmad: Yet she made that accusation or insinuation, like before,
more likely as not knowing, as Linda's best pal, of the kind
of 'assistance' her bud Linda had gotten from the production staff.
How much more 'assistance' could ANYONE have gotten then beside a
guarantee of being the freakin' 'winner'!, I ask you?

MM: Wow!

sadmad: She accused Cat of finding out (via underhanded methods) what
the actual premise of the show was and what kind of financial
windfall would await the girl David chose at the end, and then
cynically doing whatever was necessary in order to 'win'.

OS: Right.

sadmad: Yet she made that accusation knowing, again, more likely as
not being Linda's best pal, how Linda had been cajoled to return to
the show only by way of being guaranteed she would acquire that same
financial windfall when and if she did.

MM: Tell it, brother sadmad! Tell it!

sadmad: Yeah! Karolina told us all what a 'sweet and amazing lady'
Linda was while trashing Cat and HER motivations. Now can you
understand why I'm entitled to see red upon contemplating that little
happenstance?

OS: The (expletive deleted) nerve!

MM: UN-(expletive deleted)-BELIEVABLE!


(Part IX-c to follow.)

OS: Let me take a wild guess at what your issue is here, sadmad -

MM: - I'll bet I know too.

OS: You're ticked off at Karolina for all the poison-pen stuff she
said about Cat, aren't you?

sadmad: Yeah? So what if I am?

MM: I knew it! You're still sweet on Cat, aren't you?

sadmad: Again, so what if I am? To me, that's beside the point
entirely.

MM: Oh? How so?

sadmad: I want to go back to something you said just a little ways
back, Oliver. You said you thought Karolina was being 'candid' in the
stuff she put out back then, didn't you?

OS: Yeah. Look, sadmad, you said yourself that Karolina shouldn't be
considered a bad person just because she was brutally honest in
stating her lack of interest in David as a guy. So how can she be
considered a bad person simply because she was just as candid in
telling everyone how much she didn't like Cat?

MM: Same thing isn't it?

sadmad: Man, you guys just don't get it, do you? In my mind, the last
time I remember someone being as 'brutally honest' and 'candid' as
Karolina was in her post-show revelations on this and other
mesageboards, was when I saw that guy look right into a bank of
television cameras a few years back and wag his finger at all of us
and say, without blinking, 'Ah did not have sex with that woman!'

OS: Huh?

sadmad: As I said, she's entitled to her opinion about David. That's
not the issue. This applies SPECIFICALLY to the things she implied or
said about Cat. I get so mad when I think of what she was implying
about Cat, I want to put my hand through a wall!

MM: Hey, settle down big guy!

sadmad: The absolute nerve of that (expletive deleted) woman to imply
the things she did about Cat! The absolute (expletive deleted) nerve!
ESPECIALLY with what we know now! It's just UN-(expletive deleted)-
ING unconscionable!

OS: Whoa! Get an ice pack, Michael - he just put his fist through the
wall!


(Part IX-b to follow.)

sadmad: Okay, we've catalogued how outrageous and sleazy and
underhanded FOX/RSL showed themselves to be with their deceit and
distortions and manipulations.

OS: Check.

sadmad: And we've given Linda quite a going-over for her acquiescence
or complicity in that deceit and manipulations.

MM: Check.

sadmad: Well, with the revelation of this 'deal',in my mind, there's
someone who ranks even lower than each of them.

MM: Wow! Karolina, you mean?

OS: Whoa! That's a staggering statement, sadmad. How so?

sadmad: Let me explain. Karolina, you're no doubt aware, showed up in
the weeks after the showed aired here in America on internet
messageboards (including our very own one here on Yahoo) dispensing
background information with what happened on the show.

OS: Yes, we know. She seemed to be quite candid in her assessments,
didn't she?

sadmad: Candid? That's an interesting choice of words.

MM: She was certainly right up front with regard to her lack of
interest in David in all of them. Don't tell me you're still ticked
off at her because of that?

sadmad: Look, I admit I had a degree of empathy for David, but I
can't blame Karolina just because she couldn't hide the fact that she
didn't find him to be in any way attractive. Again, I couldn't
conceive of her ever applying to be on the show if FOX/RSL had been
honest with her about their actual intent.

MM: True. But we heard all kinds of stories about the girls making
fun of David behind his back. It sure ain't hard to imagine Karolina
as being one of them while she was still a part of the proceedings.

sadmad: No.

OS: And yet another one of Linda's claims in her interview was that
one of the reasons she wanted to get away from the show was because
she was upset with the others for the way they were trashing him.
While Karolina is/was her best pal. So she wants us to believe she
wasn't hearing that stuff from Karolina? Hmmm.

sadmad: Right. But we're straying from the subject at hand.
Karolina's comments about David didn't put her in a favorable light,
certainly, as appearing so condescending and full-of-herself by
scoffing at the idea that she could ever seriously be interested in a
guy like him -

MM: - 'from the middle of nowhere' was the colorful phrase she used,
I believe. Heh. You're a Kansas guy, right, sadmad?

sadmad: As you're fond of saying, Michael, correctamundo!

OS: And also saying she thought he (David) was intimidated by her.

sadmad: Right. But being condescending and full-of-yourself, as well
as having an inflated opinion of your own degree of charm, while not
being what you would call ingratiating character traits, would
certainly not put her, or anyone else, on the same level as those
other two entities we've discussed.

MM: So what is it then?


(Part IX-a to follow.)

sadmad: Thanks, guys. I needed that drink.

OS: Linda's interview with the guy from the Prague Post was, indeed,
pretty amazing, wasn't it?

sadmad: Amazing. Astounding. Surreal. There are several adjectives
that might apply.

MM: You know, we've developed a little theory that might possibly
explain that interview of Linda's away.

sadmad: Oh?

MM: Okay, here's the deal -

sadmad: The 'deal'? Are you going to offer ME a quarter mil, like
Linda was by FOX?

MM: Heh. Funny. You know what I mean.

sadmad: Sorry. Go ahead.

MM: In the aftermath of JM1, fans of the show were clamoring for post-
show information about Evan and Zora. And very quickly those fans,
who thought they made such a great couple (especially after she had
heard him confess he never had all the millions, while walking
walking away -- the two of them -- with a half a mil of FOX lucre)
became sadly disillusioned.

OS: Right. Both Evan and Zora hardly tried to hide the fact that
neither one felt anything for the other. They trashed each other and
they trashed the show.

MM: Evan, in particular, didn't hold back on making references to how
cynically manipulated JM1 had actually been.

OS: I've got to believe that played heavily on the minds of the
FOX/RSL producers as they began planning the sequel.

MM: For example, after JM1 aired, it came out that runner-up Sarah
Kozer had appeared in some sleazy bondage flick prior to having
appeared on that show.

sadmad: So that's why FOX/RSL made such a big deal during casting for
JM2 to give the girls lie detector tests and have former FBI agents
around to conduct background investigations, I would imagine.

MM: Exactly. We definitely think they didn't want to have any
unpleasant post-show surprises this next time.

OS: Accordingly, we think they especially wanted to prevent history
from repeating itself with regard to whoever was going to be the
eventual 'winners' in the area of poisoning the post-show aura.

MM: So, reading over Linda's rendition of her experience on the show,
it's our view it was more than likely that after they gave Linda the
check for $250k they told her in no specific terms that they would
countenance NO post-show trashing of David or of the show itself from
her -

OS: - and, as such, on top of the standard 'confidentiality clause',
they very probably attatched a provision to her 'winnings' that if
they ever heard or read of her trashing David (like Zora had done
with Evan) she would default on it and forfeit the prize, or be
liable.

MM: That would have been particularly pressing a need in this case,
you'd think, since those producers knew full well the circumstances
surrounding why Linda wanted to leave the show in the first place and
how it was she ended up coming back.

sadmad: (laughs) I would guess!

MM: And they, no doubt, did something similar to David, with regard
to the ranch.

sadmad: David's various post-show comments have, indeed, been totally
different in tone than those of Evan's. He was always very
circumspect with regard to his references to Linda.

MM: Right.

sadmad: I think I heard something to the effect that FOX gave Linda
the money, but with the option of having the full $250k amount spread
out in payments over a few years, or a lump sum payout of around
$100k, and she chose the latter.

OS: Could be.

sadmad: In any case, I'd agree that your 'theory' sounds very
plausible as a way of explanation.

MM: Uh-huh. It's interesting to look at the interview Linda gave to
that guy then and compare it, in tone, to the one given to the same
guy at the same time by her bud Karolina.

OS: Yeah. Karolina didn't hold much back about how the show was '50%
screenplay' and all, but mostly in the way she was so scathing in her
comments regarding HER feelings about or toward David.

sadmad: Hmmm. Yes, Karolina. 'Ol sadmad has an observation or two
regarding Karolina and her connection to this 'deal' Linda accepted
from our friends at FOX/RSL.

MM: Yes? And what would that be?


(Part IX to follow.)

sadmad: You know guys, when I think of this whole business about
Linda and the 'deal', I can't help but think of something. Or
someone, to be more accurate.

OS: And what, or who, would that be?

sadmad: Our old friend Heimdallr.

MM: Yeah, how so?

sadmad: Come one, guys! From the very beginning, Heimdallr was on to
Linda. He saw through her right away. He was the voice in the
wilderness, so to speak. He told us all about her phoniness time
after time, but he was kind of dismissed. But, oh, how right he was -
especially now in retrospect.

MM: You know, you're right.

sadmad: Think back to when we first saw that extended interview Linda
gave to that guy from the Prague Post about a year after the show was
over. Heimdallr was almost apoplectic after he saw it, and he just
tore into Linda. Some of our people got upset with him about that,
with his calling her 'this freakish woman' and all that. Sure it was
kind of funny at the time, but what could anybody say about that now?

OS: True.

sadmad: I was looking over that interview again recently. Talk about
an amazing 'performance'. Look at it yourself, guys. (Post #5137). It
almost makes you want to keel over, knowing what we know now.

MM: Oh, my!

sadmad: First off she's asked about how she felt about David's having
the $80 million and she tells him it wasn't very important to her,
that since she's used to making money for herself, it wasn't an
important issue for her whether he had any or not.

MM: Wow! I guess she found a way to 'make money FOR HERSELF',
alright, didn't she?

sadmad: Then the guy asks her if David really would be considered
a 'dream date' for her. She tells him "Of course! He was good
looking... and exciting."

OS: Let me see that! She didn't really say - Hah, hah! Amazing! The
writer even added that exclamation mark after 'Of course!', as if she
said that with emphasis!

MM: Then she says it was "exciting to find out about his lifestyle".
Egads!

sadmad: Exciting? Come on, Linda - you were appalled by his lifestyle.

MM: This is hilarious.

sadmad: The most incredible part, though, was the reply to his asking
her about how it was that she came back to the show again.

OS: Good heavens!

MM: She was upset and feeling down, she says, because she felt he
was 'calling for her'! Oh, my! This is just too much.

sadmad: But the best part is her saying she was at the airport, ready
to leave, when "THEY ASKED ME IF THERE WAS A CHANCE I WOULD CONSIDER
COMING BACK"!!!

MM: Let me see that. Oh, my! She actually does say that, doesn't she?

OS: A 'chance'? If she would 'consider' coming back!

(Sounds of raucus laughter fill the room for several minutes.)

OS: I'm surprised a bolt of lightning didn't come down from the sky,
or something.

sadmad: I sure would like to have seen her face when she saying all
this. I wonder if she was acting as ill-at-ease as she was around Cat
and Petra in Venice.

OS: I guess we have to hope she was, wouldn't you say?

MM: Did you notice that when he asks her what she was planning on
doing, she tells him something about looking into a career in
television -

sadmad: - after having told him previously that one of the reasons
she wanted to leave the proceedings there was because of all
the "stress and pressure" of having to be on camera and being mic'd
so much of the time! Yeah, I saw that, too.

OS: The piece de resistance, though, was this one - the guy asks her
how she felt after she won -

MM: And she says "I KIND OF HAD THIS FEELING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE END
OF THE SHOW THAT I WOULD BE THE ONE HE WOULD CHOOSE."

sadmad: She 'kind of had' a feeling she would be the one he
chose! 'Kind of'? Words just fail me here, guys.

OS: Then she says she felt 'great'. I would hope, maybe, there was a
little bit of being 'ashamed'. Or even just 'embarrassed'.

sadmad: Look what she says after that, though. One of you guys read
it. I can't bring myself to.

MM: Let's see - Oh, my! I can't either. You try Oliver.

OS: Oh, for the love of - what's wrong with you two? Here - I'll read
it. You're right! I can't read it either.

sadmad: Hard to classify that as being either the most appalling or
the most hysterical thing you've ever seen, right?

MM: Just when I thought I'd heard or seen it all!

OS: Excuse me, but I think I need to leave the room for a minute or
so. I want to get a drink.

MM: I'll join you.

sadmad: Me too.


(Part VIII to follow)

OS: It's like we were saying before, sadmad, the more you care to
look into the actual reality of 'reality television' the more you're
drawn to the slime just underneath the surface.

MM: When you get a chance, sadmad, you might want to peruse this
little item, which kind of reiterates a lot of what we've been
talking about -

http://www.fox.com/tradingspouses/recaps/208.htm

sadmad: "Trading Spouses"? Isn't that another show on the FOX Network?

MM: Yep.

OS: Another show produced for the FOX Network by none other than -

sadmad: - Rocket Science Laboratories!

MM: Correctamundo. Again.

OS: Are you familiar with this show?

sadmad: Seems to me I am.

OS: Alright, as you'll see this is just a recap of an episode of this
show that aired some time back.

sadmad: Yeah, I can see that.

MM: Nothing of real interest there, to be sure. However, check this
out, okay?

http://www.bio.miami.edu/rob/ts.html

sadmad: What in the world is this?

OS: It's a blog made by an actual participant on this same episode of
that same show.

MM: What's of interest here is how we see the heavy hand of Rocket
Science Laboratories at work once again -

OS: - reprised in a different form or venue, so to speak, but
evocative nonetheless, from our experience on JM2.

MM: For instance, check out the parts where the guy here notes how a
number of 'reactions' were actually from something else totally
unrelated to what the audience was seeing, done for the purpose of
presenting a storyline that adhered to what they (FOX/RSL) wanted to
convey.

OS: Paying particular attention to the instance he cites where the
person named Ann is shown laughing about the business about the trip
to Iceland and him looking like he was hurt by her laughing at it.

sadmad: Both from things completely out of context, you mean?

MM: Right.

OS: Does that evoke any remembrance from JM2 to mind?

sadmad: Wow! Let's see - the first one that comes to mind would be
that moment in the first episode when, just after telling all the
girls that the man they're all going to meet is an authentic American
cowboy (eliciting a bunch of sour expressions, as if they're all
immensely displeased at having to consort with someone of that
stature) Samantha then informs them of his just having inherited the
80 million dollars.

OS: And then they're all shown breaking up in what looks like
relieved laughter -

sadmad: - like the girls were all very possibly laughing at something
else altogether (maybe a joke someone told, or something) but got
manipulated to make them appear like the bunch of gold diggers the
storyline wanted to portray them as.

MM: I agree. That's one we thought of too. I wouldn't even be
surprised if those sour expressions earlier might have been something
similar.

sadmad: But the most notable example that comes to mind was after
Kristyna returned from her 'Boredom Date' with David in Florence. She
comes back to the Villa and the group is all around a table finishing
dinner and she starts going on as how concerened she was at how badly
the date had gone.

OS: Then while all the others seem to be commisserating with her, and
while displaying an expression of distress, she then appears to look
in the direction of Cat -

MM: - who is shown laughing -

sadmad: - as if she's coldly, unfeelingly, laughing at Kristyna's
supposed discomfort. When, in all probability, that shot of Cat
laughing there was from something else altogether. Totally out of
context or unrelated - but provided to assist the audience so as to
give the impression of Cat the producers wanted for the purposes of
their storyline.

OS: Excellent. You get an 'A' in the science of FOX/RSL 'reality',
sadmad.

sadmad: Thanks. But getting back to the subject of Linda and
this 'deal' she took advantage of from the FOX/RSL producers -

MM: What about it?


(Part VII to follow.)

sadmad: I'm a little perplexed about an element of this latest
revelation here.

OS: What would that be?

sadmad: You've each asserted your belief that whatever else may have
been fraudulent about the goings-on during the making of JM2, that
one of the few things we saw that we could probably take to the bank
as being real, were David's feelings about or toward Linda.

OS: Yes. That would be accurate.

MM: Within limits, of course.

sadmad: How so?

MM: It appears that the more we delve into those goings-on attendant
to the show, the more we find ourselves confronted with some new
level of chicanery, distortions and manipulations. So it kind of
makes you want to put an asterisk, so to speak, by just about
anything and everything - know what I mean?

sadmad: Yeah, certainly.

OS: But, in a perverse way, that's why this whole investigation of
ours into JM2 has become so absorbing and so endlessly fascinating
for the two of us.

MM: You said it. The Kennedy assassination, the Vietnam War, the
disputed election of 2000, the build-up to the Iraq War - whew!, all
small potatoes compared to the layers of deceit, dishonesty, fraud
and manipulation we've uncovered while looking into this silly piece
of fluff television.

OS: What was your question, then?

sadmad: Do you think the FOX/RSL producers came to Linda and
presented her the 'deal' you cited - flat out - or did they arrive at
it after having to 'negotiate'?

MM: Interesting question.

sadmad: Linda knew how David felt about her, right? So even if she
had found out about what the premise of the show actually was and
what kind of payoff would be in-store for the girl who he ended up
choosing at the end, wouldn't she, then, upon agreeing to come back,
have been reasonably certain that if she just even menially played up
to him a little bit, he would've picked her and she would walk away
with the prize?

OS: Good point.

sadmad: Well?

MM: Good one, sadmad. All we can do, in this case, then,
unfortunately, would be to extrapolate a guess for you.

sadmad: Go ahead.

MM: Bearing those factors in mind, it would seem to point in the
direction that at least one of the parties involved did not want to
leave anything to chance. Or so it would appear.

OS: So a possible scenario would be that Linda prepares to leave
Tuscany and the little world of JM2, fed up with the demands of
having to do this and do that at the whim of the producers, as well
as get back to her boyfriend in Prague and her pal Karolina -

MM: - then the producers have a brainstorm and see a way they could
add a nice plot twist by bringing her back later on.

OS: Only Linda really wants to get away (not from the jealousy of the
other girls, of course) but from them, and, maybe, from feelings of
guilt over David's feelings for her -

MM: - so maybe she gives them a polite 'thanks, but no thanks', and
they, in turn, up the ante.

OS: Like, 'Hey, Linda, here's the deal. If you come back and play
ball with us to the end, then here's what we're prepared to offer'.

MM: At which case, Linda said 'dobra!' (Okay!)

sadmad: Hmmm. So you're intimating that in this case, as in so many
others, everyone has their price?

MM: We hadn't thought about that angle before you introduced it,
sadmad, truth be told. So, again, we're just trying to construct as
likely a scenario as possible, given the context and the information
we have.

sadmad: I guess the best case scenario, as far as Linda is concerned
then, would be that she genuinely wanted to leave, at least in part,
because she she didn't want to lead David on, but was corrupted by
FOX and RSL to do just that.

OS: Who knows? Whatever else you may think of us, we're not total
cynics, you know? There's no hope regarding any of those shameless
FOX/RSL producers, but we're ever hopeful about the motives of the
rest of the world.


(Part VI to follow.)

OS: You know, sadmad, this probably won't be a bombshell to any great
degree, but the more we look into the goings-on of what is
called 'reality television', the more squalid it becomes.

MM: And those miserable, shameless SOB's who call themselves editors
and producers there at Rocket Science Laboratories are the absolute
worst - or most notable or proficient - purveyors of this sordid
business.

sadmad: Rocket Science Laboratories is, of course, the outfit that
produced both JM1 and JM2 for FOX.

MM: Correctamundo.

OS: In that light, are you familiar with a couple by the name of Gary
and Sharon Rosier from around the Chicago area?

sadmad: No. Should I be?

OS: Well, let me explain. It seems that a few years ago the Rosiers
(who have three children, one of whom has been wheelchair-bound) were
approached by some casting directors for a Hollywood reality TV show
called "Renovate My Family".

sadmad: I don't remember a show by that name.

MM: I guess a lot of people don't. It was on for a short while back in
2004.

OS: Apparently the concept of the show was to look for not really well-
to-do families with specific needs who could benefit from a million
dollars or so of improvements to their homes.

MM: The people from the show asked the Rosiers to draft a kind of a
wish list of what they would like. So they asked for three new
bedrooms, a bathroom, a dishwasher and some more closets.

OS: Mrs. Rosier said the producers gave a contract to sign. She said
she wanted to have an attorney look it over, but the producers told her
and her husband they had one hour to sign it, or the renovation plans
would be imperilled.

MM: Well, they went ahead and signed, and four days later a crew showed
up to begin the project. While on camera, the Rosiers were told that
most of their home was going to be torn down.

OS: Gary Rosier, it turns out, is a carpenter, who constructed their
oak cabinets by hand and built a wooden deck in the backyard, along
with having spent years landscaping the area there.

MM: The producers then took the family away for four days while the
renovations were completed.

sadmad: Wait a minute. What kind of large-scale renovations could be
completed in just four days?

MM: Good question. Hang on.

OS: The Rosiers said the producers then had them and their family
rehearse their reaction to how they would react when they first saw
their 'new' house.

OS: Only their emotions weren't quite good enough, it seemed.

sadmad: I don't get you.

OS: The Rosiers said they performed several 'takes' of
their 'reactions' of that moment, because the producers wanted
better 'emotions' from them than what they were giving.

sadmad: Hmmm. This sounds familiar.

MM: Wait. It gets better. The home looked great from the outside, but
when the family got indoors they found that the facade of new windows
installed made it look like a whole new story with new bedrooms had
been added - but it was for show!

OS: They also found floors that buckled, electrical, heating and
plumbing problems. The new washing machine that  had been installed,
for instance, didn't even have a drain. In addition, their yard had
been leveled, and their swimming pool was now completely gone - along
with all the old handmade oak cabinets.

MM: Sharon Rosier said she wanted to cry from the devestation they had
wrought.

OS: All this probably would never have been brought to light except
that the Rosiers brought a lawsuit against the production company which
was recently settles out of court.

MM: Do we need to give you three guesses as to who this particular
television production in question here was, sadmad?

sadmad: How about if you give me one, and the other two won't count -
Rocket Science Laboratories and the FOX Network, as I live and breathe.

OS: Bingo!

sadmad: Like I said, it all sounded eerily familiar, didn't it?


(Part V to follow.)