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sadmad: So I'm not just making a mountain out of a proverbial
molehill out of this, am I?

OS: No. I think we see the light, brother sadmad.

sadmad: Again, let me make sure I'm explaining myself correctly. With
the case of FOX/RSL, some might be tempted to exonerate them, to a
degree, by ascribing their actions to that old adage 'Well, that's
show biz!'

MM: You mean they had assigned millions of dollars to going over
there to Italy and putting together a show, and the bottom line was
that they were all charged with coming up with SOMETHING to titillate
viewers and draw an audience. And the ends, for them, justified the
means?

OS: Hey, it certainly wouldn't be the first time in the history of
television or motion pictures that directors, editors and producers
manipulated 'reality' with clever editing tricks and so forth.

sadmad: Very true, Oliver. Remember, as I told you, I saw "JFK".

OS: Um, er, um -

MM: (laughs) Good one, sadmad!

sadmad: And I wouldn't laugh too hard, there, Michael. I
saw "Fahrenheit 9/11" as well.

OS: Hah!

MM: _____ off, Stone!

sadmad: Alright, I'm not prepared to exonerate the editors and
producers of JM2 for their chicanery and deceit. I'm just pointing
out their behavior within a context. As far as Linda is concerned,
I'm more willing to issue some leniency on her behalf since, as I
said, she appears to have wanted to get away but was corrupted by
FOX/RSL to come back again. That 'deal' would have been difficult for
a lot of people to have turned down.

MM: You're weakening, sadmad!

sadmad: Again, I'm not exonerating Linda, I'm just trying, out of
fairness, to put her actions within a context.

OS: Speaking of being fair, sadmad, let me offer another contingency.
Despite their being best pals and all, what if, out of embarrassment,
Linda never told Karolina about the 'deal'?

sadmad: Huh?

OS: That she never told Karolina about agreeing to come back and
perform like a trained seal for them under the guarantee that she
would 'win'?

sadmad: Hmmm.

MM: So, under that scenario, wouldn't you have to exonerate Karolina
then, too?

sadmad: Okay, I see what you're saying. There are a few aspects of
what went on, in that scenario, that Karolina could possibly have not
been aware of when she authored the various remarks we've discussed.
But let me emphasize that word 'possibly' when discussing what
Karolina may or may not have known.

MM: So?

sadmad: Whatever Karolina may NOT have known, she certainly DID know
the real reason her pal Linda wanted to leave the show being due to
her missing her boyfriend back in Prague. When someone asked her
about that, specifically, she responded back in one of her posts by
saying 'that's Linda's own personal business' and wouldn't discuss it.

OS: You're right. She did, didn't she?

MM: Yeah.

sadmad: So she KNOWS Linda's feelings at the time she was on the show
were 'genuine' about someone altogether different from David - but
then she was more than willing to trash Cat and publicly scoff at the
notion that SHE didn't actually have any 'genuine' feelings for him!

OS: True. So true.

sadmad: While some of us started questioning Linda and wondering
(after she 'broke off' with David) if he had made the right choice at
the end, Karolina made some other remark about how (while watching
the show) she couldn't believe some of the things she heard Cat say
to David or about David - implying total disingenuousness on Cat's
part. And that if David had picked Cat, instead of her pal Linda, she
(Cat) wouldn't have stayed with him for a single day. Do you remember?

MM: Uh-huh.

sadmad: She authored that remark well AFTER she had watched the show,
did she not?

MM: Yeah.

sadmad: Well after, in other words, having watched the same show we
all had where we had seen her pal Linda look right into the camera at
the end and go on about how she loved the beauty of the land on
David's new ranch and how she felt so much more comfortable there
than in some large city.

OS: So?

sadmad: When she well knew (as Linda's best pal) that the thought of
EVER living on a cattle ranch in Texas with David or anyone else, for
even 'one day', would have evoked from our cosmopolitan Linda a
reaction similar to Paris Hilton's when she was ordered back to jail!

MM: Touche'!

sadmad: So you see? Even if we apply the caveat that Karolina may not
have known about her pal Linda's agreeing to return to the show and
then willingly going along with what she knew was a fabricated
version of events for personal financial gain -

OS: - the likelihood of which, noting their close friendship, would
certainly be questionable -

sadmad: - she STILL covered herself with enough shameless hypocrisy
and just plain cattiness (pardon the pun) to eclipse the other two
easily. At least in my eyes. Where, may I ask, is the context for
possible exoneration for her there?

MM: Where, indeed?


(Part X to follow.)






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The other day I received another cryptic email request to appear at the same Kansas City hotel as last year. Hmmm, I thought. I wonder what this is all about? ...
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sadmad: An interesting update to the story, you were saying, Oliver? OLIVER STONE: Yes. It involves that deus ex machina of JM2 - Linda's leaving the show (or...
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OS: You haven't said anything for a while there, sadmad. sadmad: Um, no. I guess I'm slightly at a loss for words. OS: I can see why. sadmad: I mean, I had...
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May 13, 2007
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OS: You know, sadmad, this probably won't be a bombshell to any great degree, but the more we look into the goings-on of what is called 'reality television',...
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May 14, 2007
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sadmad: I'm a little perplexed about an element of this latest revelation here. OS: What would that be? sadmad: You've each asserted your belief that whatever...
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May 18, 2007
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OS: It's like we were saying before, sadmad, the more you care to look into the actual reality of 'reality television' the more you're drawn to the slime just...
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May 23, 2007
9:35 pm

sadmad: You know guys, when I think of this whole business about Linda and the 'deal', I can't help but think of something. Or someone, to be more accurate. ...
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May 26, 2007
9:44 pm

sadmad: Thanks, guys. I needed that drink. OS: Linda's interview with the guy from the Prague Post was, indeed, pretty amazing, wasn't it? sadmad: Amazing....
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May 29, 2007
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sadmad: Okay, we've catalogued how outrageous and sleazy and underhanded FOX/RSL showed themselves to be with their deceit and distortions and manipulations. ...
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Jun 1, 2007
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OS: Let me take a wild guess at what your issue is here, sadmad - MM: - I'll bet I know too. OS: You're ticked off at Karolina for all the poison-pen stuff she...
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Jun 3, 2007
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MM: Okay, hold that ice pack on your hand, there, sadmad. And try not to get all worked up. sadmad: I can't help it. It makes me furious every time I think...
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Jun 4, 2007
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sadmad: So I'm not just making a mountain out of a proverbial molehill out of this, am I? OS: No. I think we see the light, brother sadmad. sadmad: Again, let...
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Jun 9, 2007
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OS: What I'm about to say here might be viewed with more than a little irony coming from one of us. sadmad: What's that? OS: Well, since you brought up the...
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Jun 11, 2007
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sadmad: Look, let me review the ABC's of this one more time. MM: Please do. sadmad: I want to go back again to that interview Linda gave to that guy from the...
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Jun 13, 2007
9:34 pm

sadmad: You know guys, there are still a few questions I have with regard to what we saw on the show that maybe you might be able to shed some light on for me....
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Jun 18, 2007
8:12 pm

MM: In the final episode, as the tension mounts as to which one of the two girls David is going to pick, both Cat and Linda are heard making a number of...
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Jun 23, 2007
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sadmad: I've got a couple of other observations involving the final episode which, even after all this time, still have me buffaloed. MM: Fire away. sadmad: As...
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Jun 29, 2007
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OS: Hey, sadmad - do you remember the elimination sequence following the group dates? sadmad: Sure. What about it? OS: Do you recall that when Paul called out...
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Jul 10, 2007
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Oooooh, some very interesting (though saddening) ideas coming up. Keep the "transcripts" coming! ... ...
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Jun 9, 2007
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Sehr gut, mein freund! Hallo! I have come out of retirement because your series on JM2 is so incredible. Keep up the good detective job and exposing those ...
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