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#11996

From: Ken Ardizzone <lifegardening@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:31 pm
Subject: RE: Youtube DVD Trailer

lifegardening@...

Piece of cake. Ep.69 Landscape

> To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
> From: hoboken007@...
> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:26:06 +0000
> Subject: [fugitive] Youtube DVD Trailer
>
> Put together quick little video for season 3.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rIVldZ5o4E
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> 10 points for naming the episode it from.
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#11995

From: "hoboken007" <hoboken007@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:26 pm
Subject: Youtube DVD Trailer

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Put together quick little video for season 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rIVldZ5o4E

10 points for naming the episode it from.

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#11994

From: Jason Gilbert <jhgilbert2001@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:26 pm
Subject: Re: "The SURVIVORS" is interesting....

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Hi Eleanor, I've seen "bootleg" sets made from a variety of sources also. The episodes you're referring to, where the "tonight's episode" is edited out and the title is superimposed over the beginning of the episode, I think are probably from A&E. I remember that's how they showed them when I watched them on A&E in the early 90s. That was actually my first exposure to the series, so I owe A&E a debt of gratitude. The Harrison Ford big screen treatment came out soon afterward.

Jason

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Eleanor <elliemik@...> wrote:

From: Eleanor <elliemik@...>
Subject: Re: [fugitive] "The SURVIVORS" is interesting....
To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:51 AM

At 07:25 AM 11/16/2009, Jason Gilbert wrote:

>Do you not think it more likely that the version that was recorded
>off TV is the edited one, i.e. the "screwed up" one? Except for a
>few stations, most have edited the episodes down in order to shorten
>them. Best (or worst!) example: TV Land.

But a single image is the norm, so the use of two in that one episode
on the commercial DVDs feels wrong. Plus the narration still takes
the same amount of time--it's just not matched up right in the
commercial release. So I'd gamble on it being the commercial set that
has the error.

The set I have that was recorded from TV seems to usually show the
editing in trimming some of the openings from the acts. I've also
noticed on some that the title image with announcer saying "Tonight's
episode ..." is edited out and instead the title is superimposed on
the actual start of the episode. I haven't been paying attention if
these are the TV Land ones or not--this set used a variety of sources
with resulting discrepancies in quality. And then, too, I can't
really tell if the person who compiled the set did some of this
editing by not being careful enough while slicing out commercials.

Eleanor (elliemik@ix. netcom.com)

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#11993

From: "reeny0507" <reeny0507@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: "The SURVIVORS" is interesting....

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I've got the original Nu Venture Tape. It has just one clip of David Janssen.
I checked the DVD and I have to say I didn'n notice it till now. It's really
odd. Thanks Fred.
I wonder what we will still find out while watching all the other episodes ????

Doreen

--- In fugitive@yahoogroups.com, Eleanor <elliemik@...> wrote:
>
> At 07:25 AM 11/16/2009, Jason Gilbert wrote:
>
> >Do you not think it more likely that the version that was recorded
> >off TV is the edited one, i.e. the "screwed up" one? Except for a
> >few stations, most have edited the episodes down in order to shorten
> >them. Best (or worst!) example: TV Land.
>
> But a single image is the norm, so the use of two in that one episode
> on the commercial DVDs feels wrong. Plus the narration still takes
> the same amount of time--it's just not matched up right in the
> commercial release. So I'd gamble on it being the commercial set that
> has the error.
>
> The set I have that was recorded from TV seems to usually show the
> editing in trimming some of the openings from the acts. I've also
> noticed on some that the title image with announcer saying "Tonight's
> episode ..."  is edited out and instead the title is superimposed on
> the actual start of the episode. I haven't been paying attention if
> these are the TV Land ones or not--this set used a variety of sources
> with resulting discrepancies in quality. And then, too, I can't
> really tell if the person who compiled the set did some of this
> editing by not being careful enough while slicing out commercials.
>
> Eleanor (elliemik@...)
>

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#11992

From: Eleanor <elliemik@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: "The SURVIVORS" is interesting....

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At 07:25 AM 11/16/2009, Jason Gilbert wrote:

>Do you not think it more likely that the version that was recorded
>off TV is the edited one, i.e. the "screwed up" one? Except for a
>few stations, most have edited the episodes down in order to shorten
>them. Best (or worst!) example: TV Land.

But a single image is the norm, so the use of two in that one episode
on the commercial DVDs feels wrong. Plus the narration still takes
the same amount of time--it's just not matched up right in the
commercial release. So I'd gamble on it being the commercial set that
has the error.

The set I have that was recorded from TV seems to usually show the
editing in trimming some of the openings from the acts. I've also
noticed on some that the title image with announcer saying "Tonight's
episode ..."  is edited out and instead the title is superimposed on
the actual start of the episode. I haven't been paying attention if
these are the TV Land ones or not--this set used a variety of sources
with resulting discrepancies in quality. And then, too, I can't
really tell if the person who compiled the set did some of this
editing by not being careful enough while slicing out commercials.

Eleanor (elliemik@...)

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#11991

From: Jason Gilbert <jhgilbert2001@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: "The SURVIVORS" is interesting....

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Do you not think it more likely that the version that was recorded off TV is the edited one, i.e. the "screwed up" one? Except for a few stations, most have edited the episodes down in order to shorten them. Best (or worst!) example: TV Land.

Jason

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Eleanor <elliemik@...> wrote:

From: Eleanor <elliemik@...>
Subject: Re: [fugitive] "The SURVIVORS" is interesting....
To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 10:11 PM

At 10:56 AM 11/9/2009, spaceforce2000@ aol.com wrote:

>"THE SURVIVORS" has 2 interesting oddities.... in the opening credits
>sequence, when the announcer says "starring David Janssen as Dr.
>Richard Kimble", you see TWO different clips of David Janssen
>(instead of the usual one clip). Also, the music during the END
>CREDITS is different than usual--take a look and you'll see what I
>mean--several musical cues are skipped over--its sounds really weird.

I noticed the opening with the two images of Kimble--it is jarring
because it throws off the narration. When I looked at a copy of the
episode that had been recorded off TV, it has only the one image of
Kimble. So apparently something got screwed up when the commercial
DVDs were made. Didn't notice anything about the end credits, though,
but I don't have the ear for it.

Eleanor (elliemik@ix. netcom.com)

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#11990

From: Eleanor <elliemik@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:11 am
Subject: Re: "The SURVIVORS" is interesting....

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At 10:56 AM 11/9/2009, spaceforce2000@... wrote:

>"THE SURVIVORS" has 2 interesting oddities....in the opening credits
>sequence, when the announcer says "starring David Janssen as Dr.
>Richard Kimble", you see TWO different clips of David Janssen
>(instead of the usual one clip).  Also, the music during the END
>CREDITS is different than usual--take a look and you'll see what I
>mean--several musical cues are skipped over--its sounds really weird.

I noticed the opening with the two images of Kimble--it is jarring
because it throws off the narration. When I looked at a copy of the
episode that had been recorded off TV, it has only the one image of
Kimble. So apparently something got screwed up when the commercial
DVDs were made. Didn't notice anything about the end credits, though,
but I don't have the ear for it.

Eleanor (elliemik@...)

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#11989

From: "Robert Dahl" <rjd0309@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:32 am
Subject: Re: "Brass Ring" minor observations

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By golly, you're right, Fred!  I've watched that episode many times but never
noticed anything different about the titles.  Well spotted.



--- In fugitive@yahoogroups.com, spaceforce2000@... wrote:
>
> Dear Group,
> I watched the FUGITIVE episode "Brass Ring" the other day (guest stars
> Angie Dickenson).  The opening credits of this episode are unlike any other
> episode of the series--check it out, "THE FUGITIVE, Act I" caption slowly
> fades  away...then the Executive Producer....Writer...Director credits
> appear...and  these each fade away in succession---IN ALL OTHER EPISODES of
the
> series these opening credits have the familiar "flip-over" effect (for lack 
of
> a better term).  I wonder if a guest film editor might have worked on  the
> credits for that week's episode and was unaware of the "flip-over"  effect
> that was usually used?  Anyway, check out the opening of "Brass  Ring" and
> you'll see what I mean.  These credits really look  weird!
> Regards,
> Fred
>

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#11988

From: spaceforce2000@...
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:06 pm
Subject: "Brass Ring" minor observations

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Dear Group,

I watched the FUGITIVE episode "Brass Ring" the other day (guest stars Angie Dickenson). The opening credits of this episode are unlike any other episode of the series--check it out, "THE FUGITIVE, Act I" caption slowly fades away...then the Executive Producer....Writer...Director credits appear...and these each fade away in succession---IN ALL OTHER EPISODES of the series these opening credits have the familiar "flip-over" effect (for lack of a better term). I wonder if a guest film editor might have worked on the credits for that week's episode and was unaware of the "flip-over" effect that was usually used? Anyway, check out the opening of "Brass Ring" and you'll see what I mean. These credits really look weird!

Regards,

Fred

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#11987

From: "edrobertson2004" <edrobertson@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:01 pm
Subject: Richard Anderson to Appear on the Next Edition of TV CONFIDENTIAL

edrobertson2004

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TV CONFIDENTIAL promises to be better, stronger and faster when actor Richard
Anderson joins Ed Robertson and Frankie Montiforte on the next edition of the
program, which premieres Monday, Nov. 16 at 10pm ET, 7pm PT on Shokus Internet
Radio, with a rebroadcast Tuesday, Nov. 17 at 11pm ET, 8pm PT on Share-a-Vision
Radio, KSAV.org.

Best known for playing Oscar Goldman on The Six Million Dollar Man and The
Bionic Woman�a role that made him the first actor in TV history to play the same
character on two series that ran at the same time on two different
networks�Richard Anderson has been a fixture in movies and television for more
than 60 years. He has appeared in such classic films as The Long Hot Summer,
Forbidden Planet, Compulsion, Seconds, Tora! Tora! Tora! and Paths of Glory,
while his television career includes regular roles on Perry Mason, Dan August
and Cover Up, featured roles in such acclaimed made-for-TV movies as Along Came
a Spider, Say Goodbye, Maggie Cole and The Night Strangler, and guest
appearances on such classic TV series as Bonanza, Gunsmoke, The F.B.I., Hawaii
Five-O and The Fugitive.

If you want to be part of our conversation, if you have a question for Richard
Anderson about his career or any of the films and television series in which
he's appeared, we invite you to join us Monday, Nov. 16 at 10pm ET, 7pm PT on
Shokus Internet Radio.

NOTE: The interview with Richard Anderson will be recorded earlier in the day
for broadcast Monday night. Therefore, if you have a question for Mr. Anderson
that you would like us to ask on the air, please be sure to send it by 3pm ET,
Noon PT on Monday, Nov. 16. Our email address, as always, is
talk@....

TV CONFIDENTIAL with Ed Robertson and Frankie Montiforte
Mon-Sun 10pm ET, 7pm PT
Shokus Internet Radio
Every other Tuesday at 11pm ET, 8pm PT
Share-a-Vision Radio, KSAV.org
www.tvconfidential.net
blog.tvconfidential.net
Also available as a podcast via iTunes and FeedBurner

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#11986

From: spaceforce2000@...
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 10:56 am
Subject: "The SURVIVORS" is interesting....

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"THE SURVIVORS" has 2 interesting oddities....in the opening credits sequence, when the announcer says "starring David Janssen as Dr. Richard Kimble", you see TWO different clips of David Janssen (instead of the usual one clip). Also, the music during the END CREDITS is different than usual--take a look and you'll see what I mean--several musical cues are skipped over--its sounds really weird.

--Regards,

Fred

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#11985

From: Eleanor <elliemik@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: poor picture quality of "CRY UNCLE" (S2, Vol. 1, Disc 3)?

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At 12:55 PM 11/3/2009, spaceforce2000@... wrote:

>Just wondering...has anyone in the group noticed the poor picture
>quality of "CRY UNCLE"? (S2, Vol. 1, Disc 3).  17 minutes, 27
>seconds into the show, there is a sudden DELUGE of scratches and
>picture break-up which goes on continuously for a solid 5
>minutes.  The quality control at Paramount when it comes to DVD
>releases seems to be non-existent.  Very frustrating!

Yes. I assume it was just a problem with their master print, since
it's on both the original set and the restored-music replacement set.
I don't believe I had the picture breaking up, though--if I remember
correctly, I had some vertical lines and poor contrast, lasting for
several minutes in Cry Uncle.

Eleanor (elliemik@...)

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#11984

From: spaceforce2000@...
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 12:55 pm
Subject: poor picture quality of "CRY UNCLE" (S2, Vol. 1, Disc 3)?

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In a message dated 11/3/2009 7:33:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, fugitive@yahoogroups.com writes:

Regarding Season 2, Vol. 1, the replacement DVDs put back a lot of the music that had been stripped from Vol. 1,

Just wondering...has anyone in the group noticed the poor picture quality of "CRY UNCLE"? (S2, Vol. 1, Disc 3). 17 minutes, 27 seconds into the show, there is a sudden DELUGE of scratches and picture break-up which goes on continuously for a solid 5 minutes. The quality control at Paramount when it comes to DVD releases seems to be non-existent. Very frustrating!

Regards to all,

Fred

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#11983

From: "clugul" <andrews.ja@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 12:47 am
Subject: Re: DVDs

clugul

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--- In fugitive@yahoogroups.com, "Nicholas" <nsnassif@...> wrote:
> Does anyone know if the music was altered substantially for the two videos in
the 3rd season?  What about the second video in the 2nd season.  I know that the
first video in the second season had almost no original music.
--------

Nicholas, I think by "video" you mean "DVD." As I posted on Friday, in message
number 11965, the Season 3, Vol. 1 DVD set that was just released seems to be
relatively good in that most of the music replacement occurs in the first
episode of that set, "Wings on an Angel." Below you can find the detailed
information that was posted by two knowledgeable sources who reviewed each
episode. Season 3, Vol. 2 doesn't come out till next month, 12/8. Regarding
Season 2, Vol. 1, the replacement DVDs put back a lot of the music that had been
stripped from Vol. 1, but the Season 2, Vol. 2 DVDs still had a lot of
replacement music (although it did have the Rugolo music).

Original message:
For those who might not be following the recent reviews for the just-released
Fugitive Season 3, Vol. 1 DVD set, here are comments from postings on 2 other
discussion boards.

Robert Dahl's summary comments on S3V1 -- posting on Yahoo group, "Fugitive
Views and Reviews":

I've now watched all 15 episodes of S3V1, and in my opinion, CBS has done a
pretty good job of leaving the original music mostly intact. Here is my review
of each episode.

"Wings Of An Angel" has a great deal of Heyes synth music, and only a handful of
original Rugolo cues. It's the worst of the set, in terms of replaced music.

"Trial By Fire" has instances of Heyes music that actually blend rather well, as
they seem to have been reduced in volume. There are a few noticeable Heyes cues
in Act 4.

"Conspiracy of Silence" has more Heyes than "Trial By Fire", some of which are
pretty loud.

"Landscape With Running Figures part 1" has Heyes cues at 4:31 and 44:12.

"Landscape With Running Figures part 2" has no Heyes cues that I could hear just
some replaced jukebox or radio ("source") music.

"Set Fire To A Straw Man" has loud Heyes cues at 2:26 and 4:00, with softer
Heyes at 29:20 and 37:40.

"The Good Guys And The Bad Guys" has no Heyes music that I could hear, but the
Vigilante-Roundup carnival music that you hear in the background has been
replaced.

The following episodes have no replacement music that I could detect -

"Middle Of A Heat Wave"
"Crack In A Crystal Ball"
"Three Cheers For Little Boy Blue"
"All The Scared Rabbits"
"An Apple A Day"
"Stranger In The Mirror"
"End Of The Line"
"When The Wind Blows"

In my opinion, this set is a good deal better than Season 2, Vol. 2. Many
episodes are Heyes-free (no synthesizer music), and other episodes like
"Landscape" and "Trial" get off lightly with just a few instances of Heyes.

Best regards,
Robert
-----------------------------
Jack P's summary comments on Season 3, Vol. 1 (S3V1) -- posting on Home Theater
Forum:

"Overall, I would rate this as better than the Season 2, Vol. 1 replacement set.
It's clearly the best set that has come out post-Seasson 1, and I think we
should reasonably expect S3 V2 to be on the same level."

Nicholas, if you want even more detailed information, go to these 3 forum links:
http://snipurl.com/qh5i4 Home Theater Forum, Season 3, Vol. 1
http://snipurl.com/fj16e Home Theater Forum, Season 2, Vol. 2
http://snipurl.com/c54ra Home Theater Forum, Season 2, Vol. 1

Cheers,
Joyce

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#11982

From: "Nicholas" <nsnassif@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 10:24 pm
Subject: RE: DVDs

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Does anyone know if the music was altered substantially for the two videos in the 3^rd season? What about the second video in the 2^nd season. I know that the first video in the second season had almost no original music.

Nicholas in LA

From: fugitive@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fugitive@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John D. Wagner
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:12 AM
To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fugitive] DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

I wouldn't say it is bad. But it is sure not very exciting, with him just standing there.

----- Original Message -----

From: spaceforce2000@...

To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:38 AM

Subject: [fugitive] DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

What do you think everybody...could this possibly be David Janssen's WORST-ever photo? Surely, Paramount could have chosen a better photo than this for the DVD cover! http://www.amazon.com/Fugitive-Season-Three-Vol-2/dp/B002OID508/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257172340&sr=1-3

Regards,

Fred

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#11981

From: christine miller <waldenpond66@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

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:) :) :)

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, ferlenarab@... <ferlenarab@...> wrote:

From: ferlenarab@... <ferlenarab@...>
Subject: Re: [fugitive] DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???
To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 11:40 AM

�

He's just mad because he heard about the music changes on the rereleased
episodes! LORENZO

-----Original Message-----
From: spaceforce2000@ aol.com
To: fugitive@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 9:38 am
Subject: [fugitive] DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

�

What do you think everybody... could this possibly be David
Janssen's�WORST-ever�photo?��Surely, Paramount could have chosen a better�photo
than this for the DVD cover! � http://www.amazon. com/Fugitive- Season-Three-
Vol-2/dp/ B002OID508/ ref=sr_1_ 3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257172340&sr=1-3
Regards,
Fred
�

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#11980

From: "John D. Wagner" <jwagner4@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

jwagner4@...

I wouldn't say it is bad. But it is sure not very exciting, with him just standing there.

----- Original Message -----

From: spaceforce2000@...

To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:38 AM

Subject: [fugitive] DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

What do you think everybody...could this possibly be David Janssen's WORST-ever photo? Surely, Paramount could have chosen a better photo than this for the DVD cover! http://www.amazon.com/Fugitive-Season-Three-Vol-2/dp/B002OID508/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257172340&sr=1-3

Regards,

Fred

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#11979

From: ferlenarab@...
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

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He's just mad because he heard about the music changes on the rereleased episodes! LORENZO

-----Original Message-----
From: spaceforce2000@...
To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 9:38 am
Subject: [fugitive] DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

What do you think everybody...could this possibly be David Janssen's WORST-ever photo? Surely, Paramount could have chosen a better photo than this for the DVD cover! http://www.amazon.com/Fugitive-Season-Three-Vol-2/dp/B002OID508/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257172340&sr=1-3

Regards,

Fred

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#11978

From: Eleanor <elliemik@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

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I don't have a problem with it; it seems fine to me.

The worst DVD cover art has been season two, volume two, with that
weird wanted poster. Probably the best is season three, volume one.
What a hunk!

Eleanor (elliemik@...)

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#11977

From: christine miller <waldenpond66@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

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Hi Fred,

You are right, this really is not a flattering photo at all. I've never seen it
before and wonder why they did not decide to take a more well-known Fugitive
photo?
Those guys at CBS must be blind :).
I always thought Janssen was a very attractive man, but even the most attractive
people once in a while get caught on ugly snap shots with their eyes closed and
their mouth open etc.

Chrissie


--- On Mon, 11/2/09, spaceforce2000@... <spaceforce2000@...> wrote:

What do you think everybody... could this possibly be David
Janssen's�WORST-ever�photo?��Surely, Paramount could have chosen a better�photo
than this for the DVD cover! � http://www.amazon. com/Fugitive- Season-Three-
Vol-2/dp/ B002OID508/ ref=sr_1_ 3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257172340&sr=1-3
Regards,
Fred
�

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#11976

From: spaceforce2000@...
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 9:38 am
Subject: DVD-S3-Vol. 2 cover--WORST Janssen photo ever???

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What do you think everybody...could this possibly be David Janssen's WORST-ever photo? Surely, Paramount could have chosen a better photo than this for the DVD cover! http://www.amazon.com/Fugitive-Season-Three-Vol-2/dp/B002OID508/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257172340&sr=1-3

Regards,

Fred

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#11975

From: maquebec@...
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

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Besides, linguistics and hand to hand combat, let's not forget Dr. Kimble's most important skill...getting beautiful women to fall in love with him!

A vital skill when you're on the run and need someplace to hide, while fighting the loneliness.

Mike

He could have picked up a lot of useful skills--like fighting--while in jail.

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From: Eleanor <elliemik@...>
To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2009 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [fugitive] Did Kimble speak Spanish?

At 09:15 AM 10/31/2009, shemp472000 wrote:

>There were a few episodes where Kimble speaks a little Spanish. I've
>always wondered where he learned it. Did Kimble take Spanish in high school?

Well, he has a lot of jobs with migrant workers--e.g., Smoke Screen.
So he'd pick up a bit of Spanish even if he never studied it. I don't
remember him speaking Spanish extensively (actually, I don't remember
it at all, but I'll take your word for it!).

He could have picked up a lot of useful skills--like fighting--while in jail.

Eleanor (elliemik@ix.netcom.com)

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From: Eleanor <elliemik@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

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At 09:15 AM 10/31/2009, shemp472000 wrote:

>There were a few episodes where Kimble speaks a little Spanish. I've
>always wondered where he learned it. Did Kimble take Spanish in high school?

Well, he has a lot of jobs with migrant workers--e.g., Smoke Screen.
So he'd pick up a bit of Spanish even if he never studied it. I don't
remember him speaking Spanish extensively (actually, I don't remember
it at all, but I'll take your word for it!).

He could have picked up a lot of useful skills--like fighting--while in jail.

Eleanor (elliemik@...)

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From: maquebec@...
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

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As a fan of martial arts in the movies and tv, I notice that the one armed man uses the infamous '60's style "chop" to the back of the shoulders of J.D. Cannon during that two part "The Judgement."

Kimble uses the duck and toss over the back in some other episodes.

Hhmmm...maybe the one armed man could've gone into business with Kimble, sending patients to him (like the guys he beat up in that bar at the beginning of "The Judgement.") :-)

Mike

He was also in fist fights with the truck driver in "Angels Travel on Lonely Roads." Also with the one-armed man in "A Clean and Quiet Town" and "The Judgement: Part 2." There are probably other examples as well.

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From: John D. Wagner <jwagner4@...>
To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2009 10:25 am
Subject: Re: [fugitive] Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

He was also in fist fights with the truck driver in "Angels Travel on Lonely Roads." Also with the one-armed man in "A Clean and Quiet Town" and "The Judgement: Part 2." There are probably other examples as well.

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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:49 AM

Subject: [fugitive] Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

--- In fugitive@yahoogroups.com, maquebec@... wrote:
> Then again, as a doctor, where did he learn how to fight like he does? I think the only hand to hand fight he had a problem with was with Claude Akins.

I don't think he put up much of a fight in The Witch, but that was an early episode and he hadn't been a fugitive that long. Plus Kimble had military training and was in the Korean War (as a medic, but he still had to go through basic training, etc.).

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From: "John D. Wagner" <jwagner4@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

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He was also in fist fights with the truck driver in "Angels Travel on Lonely Roads." Also with the one-armed man in "A Clean and Quiet Town" and "The Judgement: Part 2." There are probably other examples as well.

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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:49 AM

Subject: [fugitive] Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

--- In fugitive@yahoogroups.com, maquebec@... wrote:
> Then again, as a doctor, where did he learn how to fight like he does? I think the only hand to hand fight he had a problem with was with Claude Akins.

I don't think he put up much of a fight in The Witch, but that was an early episode and he hadn't been a fugitive that long. Plus Kimble had military training and was in the Korean War (as a medic, but he still had to go through basic training, etc.).

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#11971

From: maquebec@...
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

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Hey, you're right. All kidding aside, boxing and judo was a part of basic hand to hand combat training (according to my dad, who was a veteran.)

As for Spanish, it would make sense for him to be bilingual in his practice, (Can't hurt.)

Mike

Plus Kimble had military training and was in the Korean War (as a medic, but he still had to go through basic training, etc.).

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From: clugul <andrews.ja@...>
To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2009 9:49 am
Subject: [fugitive] Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

--- In fugitive@yahoogroups.com, maquebec@... wrote:
> Then again, as a doctor, where did he learn how to fight like he does? I think the only hand to hand fight he had a problem with was with Claude Akins.

I don't think he put up much of a fight in The Witch, but that was an early episode and he hadn't been a fugitive that long. Plus Kimble had military training and was in the Korean War (as a medic, but he still had to go through basic training, etc.).

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From: "clugul" <andrews.ja@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

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--- In fugitive@yahoogroups.com, maquebec@... wrote:
> Then again, as a doctor, where did he learn how to fight like he does?  I
think the only hand to hand fight he had a problem with was with Claude Akins.

I don't think he put up much of a fight in The Witch, but that was an early
episode and he hadn't been a fugitive that long. Plus Kimble had military
training and was in the Korean War (as a medic, but he still had to go through
basic training, etc.).

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From: maquebec@...
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

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Well, maybe as a doctor in his private practice, his selling point was, "Se habla, espanol." :-)

Then again, as a doctor, where did he learn how to fight like he does? I think the only hand to hand fight he had a problem with was with Claude Akins.

Maybe Spanish, with a smattering of judo, was a requirement in the medical field back in the day.

Mike

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From: shemp472000 <shemp56@...>
To: fugitive@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2009 6:15 am
Subject: [fugitive] Did Kimble speak Spanish?

There were a few episodes where Kimble speaks a little Spanish. I've always wondered where he learned it. Did Kimble take Spanish in high school?

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From: "shemp472000" <shemp56@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:15 pm
Subject: Did Kimble speak Spanish?

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There were a few episodes where Kimble speaks a little Spanish. I've always
wondered where he learned it. Did Kimble take Spanish in high school?

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From: christine miller <waldenpond66@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:48 am
Subject: Re: NuVenture intros by Barry

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Hi Rusty,

Thanks for your kind e-mail. I'm glad I know now that what happened in 1997,
happened to lots of other Fugitive fans as well.

It did not hurt me finacially way back then, I was making a lot of money and
$240 (I think that's what I paid Nu-Venture) did not really make any difference.
I was just disappointed, because this was (it seemed to me way back then at
least) my only chance to watch a few never on TV in Germany aired Fugitive
episodes.
I had no clue that I would immigrate to the US 5 years later and catch some
"new" Fugitive episodes on TVLand even before that (1999/2000).

I will check out the Barry Morse intros on youtube. Thanks, Joyce, for posting
the links.

Happy Halloween,

Chrissie




--- On Fri, 10/30/09, Rusty Pollard <rustypollard@...> wrote:

Hi Chrissie,
�
Your story is not unique, Nu-Ventures managed to rip a lot of people off and had
they played their cards right, they could have become very successful - but
either greed or shear stupidity kicked in and they fell to the way side - taking
some innocent people's money along with them.
�
I am sorry to hear you never got your merchandise from them, but if it's any
consolation, there were many others as well.
�
Take care!
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Rusty

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