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#143 From: "sunnistar64" <sunnistar64@...>
Date: Tue Sep 9, 2003 2:23 pm
Subject: Chad
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I am glad she followed her heart and chose Chad.

#142 From: MetalBassPro@...
Date: Thu Sep 4, 2003 10:56 pm
Subject: Re: Mike
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I dunno?? I could comment but i might be called a retarded idiot.

  mike


In a message dated 9/5/03 1:22:27 AM, olson.melanie@... writes:

<< Anybody want to make predictions about Monday night's finale?  I think
she's
going to pick Chad and he's going to take the money.  Anybody else?
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Rainie Shewczyk [mailto:moonbeam3672@...]
   Sent: 04 September, 2003 18:53
   To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [forloveormoney] Mike


     Mike,

     I think you should keep your retarded comments to your self. Everything
You say is stupid. Your such an idiot.

     Gwen



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#141 From: MetalBassPro@...
Date: Thu Sep 4, 2003 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: Mike
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In a message dated 9/4/03 11:55:19 PM, moonbeam3672@... writes:

<<
Mike,

I think you should keep your retarded comments to your self. Everything You
say is stupid. Your such an idiot.

Gwen >>

   Gwen, how old are you?

  mike

#140 From: "Melanie D. Olson" <olson.melanie@...>
Date: Fri Sep 5, 2003 1:22 am
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Anybody want to make predictions about Monday night's finale?  I think she's going to pick Chad and he's going to take the money.  Anybody else?
-----Original Message-----
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To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [forloveormoney] Mike

Mike,

I think you should keep your retarded comments to your self. Everything You say is stupid. Your such an idiot.

Gwen


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#139 From: Rainie Shewczyk <moonbeam3672@...>
Date: Thu Sep 4, 2003 11:52 pm
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Mike,

I think you should keep your retarded comments to your self. Everything You say is stupid. Your such an idiot.

Gwen


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#138 From: Todd Luken <tluken76@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2003 6:14 pm
Subject: Erin
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> In no way did Erin give up a million dollars
> for a chance at two
> million.

It also says at the end of each episode that if she
does not win the $2 million, Erin will receive a
consolation prize.  It doesn't say how much, but the
consolation prize alone could be worth more than the
$1 million (spread over many years) she gave up.

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#137 From: MetalBassPro@...
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2003 5:28 am
Subject: Re: of course the show is scripted!
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In a message dated 9/3/03 6:25:49 AM, realitytvjunkie@... writes:

<< how can it not be, i mean, she stands there, waits for ten seconds before
she says anything, and always makes it sound like she is talking about keeping
them around, and then she say buh bye!

they have to be coaching them,

can you imagine how stupid comments and stuff they would say on their own,

well, maybe not, maybe they would be better off not scripted? >>

I think some things are coached, scripted and a lot is left as free play too.

  mike

#136 From: "Junkie" <realitytvjunkie@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2003 4:00 am
Subject: of course the show is scripted!
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how can it not be, i mean, she stands there, waits for ten seconds before she says anything, and always makes it sound like she is talking about keeping them around, and then she say buh bye!
they have to be coaching them,
can you imagine how stupid comments and stuff they would say on their own,
well, maybe not, maybe they would be better off not scripted?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: [forloveormoney] paige

I think she'll choose Chad.  Did you watch the reunion last night?  And if you did, did you see the way Wade and Chad acted at the end?  I thought that they both acted very ill at ease.  I still can't figure out if this show is scripted or real.  Wish I knew for sure.  Anyway, I think, if it's real, that she's falling in love with Chad.  But I don't think he'll pick her, I think he's going to take the money.  That is my guess!!!!
 

#135 From: "Jaynie" <onechozen@...>
Date: Wed Sep 3, 2003 3:47 am
Subject: Re: paige
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good read Tom!


--- In forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Wilson"
<tomwilson64@c...> wrote:
> I was only an actor in a drama team at church, but learned a lot
about
> acting in those 5 years.  I have e-mailed with Paige a few times,
she seems
> nice enough in her responses.  As for the show and Erin's choices,
I know
> this kind of ruins the fun, but this is really about lights,
camera and
> action than real genuine love.  My feeling is people are so hungry
to see
> good relationships that the networks simply capitalize on it by
editing it
> just the right way to disguise the fact that these people are
mostly
> interested in putting their lives on hold for the exposure it can
give their
> hopes for a career in television.  This isn't like the woman you
work with
> being chosen at random to participate and they hide the cameras
and sit back
> and let everyone watch 24 hours a day.  This is 72 - 96 hours of
several
> people's lives and interactions highly edited down to the 40
minutes or so
> of manipulation that lets them call it a reality show so people
believe the
> tag.  In no way did Erin give up a million dollars for a chance at
two
> million.  She gave up payments of about $1000 a month (after
taxes) for 25
> years in exchange for an additional two months of an hour weekly
network
> exposure which is worth a whole lot more than a million dollars
after taxes
> spread over 25 years, especially in our TV-conscious, image-driven
society.
>
> Remember Erin has been on network television for about 4 - 5
months now.
> She didn't give up anything in my book.
>
> And oh yeah, lets edit it jsut right so it appears Erin is seeking
a
> relationship.  Do you all realize they could take any 12 - 15
minutes of
> edits with either Chad or Wade and turn your feelings how they
want you to
> feel?  If they want to shock you, they will have her pick Wade and
convince
> you it is actually a hidden love she had for Wade.  If they have
her pick
> Chad they can shock you with all the edited tape of Chad being out
only for
> the money that they have hidden just for the shock.   Remember
this isn't a
> live show.  The whole series, including the part II (Erin's as the
main
> character) was shot before the first episode of the first one ever
aired.
> Enjoy it like a sitcom if you would like to, but understand that's
as much
> reality as there is.  Mark my words, if you interview these people
when they
> are 60 years old some day they will laugh and tell you how staged
it was and
> how their only interest was the exposure their agents and business
contacts
> told them they could get.
>
> That's not even being a cynic, its actually more far reality than
you'll get
> from the show. :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sunni Star [mailto:sunnistar64@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:28 AM
> To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [forloveormoney] paige
>
>
> I don't have Paige's e-mail, but I wish I had Rob's and Chad's.  I
am hoping
>
> she follows her heart and chooses Chad.  Any comments????
>
>
> >From: MetalBassPro@a...
> >Reply-To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
> >To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [forloveormoney] paige
> >Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:07:51 EDT
> >
> >   Anyone got paige's e-mail? I think I am in love :)
> >
> >  Mike
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#134 From: Jenny Cordova <jenny378us@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 8:36 pm
Subject: RE: paige
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I think you're right.  About whether the show is scripted, I don't believe it is.  I actually know one of the contestants who got the boot on the first "For Love or Money 2" episode and he says that the producers definitely influence things.  For example, pit the guys against each other, had them staying up until 3 am -- that's what time they did those elimination ceremonies -- I guess so they'd be tired and more stressed out and therefore more emotional.  I think that's as far as they go though.  It's not scripted.

"Melanie D. Olson" <olson.melanie@...> wrote:
I think she'll choose Chad.  Did you watch the reunion last night?  And if you did, did you see the way Wade and Chad acted at the end?  I thought that they both acted very ill at ease.  I still can't figure out if this show is scripted or real.  Wish I knew for sure.  Anyway, I think, if it's real, that she's falling in love with Chad.  But I don't think he'll pick her, I think he's going to take the money.  That is my guess!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Sunni Star [mailto:sunnistar64@...]
Sent: 02 September, 2003 10:28
To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [forloveormoney] paige

I don't have Paige's e-mail, but I wish I had Rob's and Chad's.  I am hoping
she follows her heart and chooses Chad.  Any comments????


>From: MetalBassPro@...
>Reply-To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
>To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [forloveormoney] paige
>Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:07:51 EDT
>
>   Anyone got paige's e-mail? I think I am in love :)
>
>  Mike

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#133 From: "Melanie D. Olson" <olson.melanie@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 6:58 pm
Subject: RE: paige
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I think she'll choose Chad.  Did you watch the reunion last night?  And if you did, did you see the way Wade and Chad acted at the end?  I thought that they both acted very ill at ease.  I still can't figure out if this show is scripted or real.  Wish I knew for sure.  Anyway, I think, if it's real, that she's falling in love with Chad.  But I don't think he'll pick her, I think he's going to take the money.  That is my guess!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Sunni Star [mailto:sunnistar64@...]
Sent: 02 September, 2003 10:28
To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [forloveormoney] paige

I don't have Paige's e-mail, but I wish I had Rob's and Chad's.  I am hoping
she follows her heart and chooses Chad.  Any comments????


>From: MetalBassPro@...
>Reply-To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
>To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [forloveormoney] paige
>Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:07:51 EDT
>
>   Anyone got paige's e-mail? I think I am in love :)
>
>  Mike

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#132 From: MetalBassPro@...
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: paige
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In a message dated 9/2/03 5:44:55 PM, tomwilson64@... writes:

<<
The 2000 - 2010 decade will be remembered for the manipulation of a
prosperous population.  The scary part?  This manipulated generation is the
next generation of leaders.  The scariest thing happening right now, day by
day is the dying off of the World War II generation and the Silent
Generation (born during the depression).  They have been the anchor holding
down the basic truths of this country.  What will be left when they are gone
is a bit discomforting to me. >>

   What will be left is the endless war on terrorism and Orwell's vision.

  Mike

#131 From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 5:18 pm
Subject: RE: paige
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I assume this is the same part of you that responds to wanting or wishing for how things turn out in soap operas.  Those are direct actors, these shows simply employ indirect actors.  They are made to respond by remote control in response to the endless number of situations and circumstances the writers (yes these series have writers) dream up to keep the plotline (yes these have targeted plotlines) on track to sell advertising (this is the whole reason for the show).  The advertisers pay a lot of money because a generation of marketing degrees from good universities combined with a population that is TV-conscious makes for the ideal poulation to be manipulated into purchasing the products and services advertised.
 
The 2000 - 2010 decade will be remembered for the manipulation of a prosperous population.  The scary part?  This manipulated generation is the next generation of leaders.  The scariest thing happening right now, day by day is the dying off of the World War II generation and the Silent Generation (born during the depression).  They have been the anchor holding down the basic truths of this country.  What will be left when they are gone is a bit discomforting to me.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Tara Cranfield [mailto:tmc430@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:50 AM
To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [forloveormoney] paige

I have sat here for the last month and have read every
e-mail that I have received from this group and this
is the first one I had to respond to.
I totally agree with everything that Tom wrote. I am
glad that someone else pointed out the fact that Erin
is not really giving up $1 million. She is giving up
$25,000 a year for 40 years and that is not with the
taxes taken out. I live about an hour and a half south
of San Francisco and let me tell you, $25,000 is
nothing. You can not retire and live off of it so I
think that Erin made a good choice in going for
"double or nothing". It does not matter to me how this
ends, part of me wants the fairy tale ending with her
finding love and the other side thinks that it would
be funny if she got turned down like she did to Rob. 


--- Tom Wilson <tomwilson64@...> wrote:
> I was only an actor in a drama team at church, but
> learned a lot about
> acting in those 5 years.  I have e-mailed with Paige
> a few times, she seems
> nice enough in her responses.  As for the show and
> Erin's choices, I know
> this kind of ruins the fun, but this is really about
> lights, camera and
> action than real genuine love.  My feeling is people
> are so hungry to see
> good relationships that the networks simply
> capitalize on it by editing it
> just the right way to disguise the fact that these
> people are mostly
> interested in putting their lives on hold for the
> exposure it can give their
> hopes for a career in television.  This isn't like
> the woman you work with
> being chosen at random to participate and they hide
> the cameras and sit back
> and let everyone watch 24 hours a day.  This is 72 -
> 96 hours of several
> people's lives and interactions highly edited down
> to the 40 minutes or so
> of manipulation that lets them call it a reality
> show so people believe the
> tag.  In no way did Erin give up a million dollars
> for a chance at two
> million.  She gave up payments of about $1000 a
> month (after taxes) for 25
> years in exchange for an additional two months of an
> hour weekly network
> exposure which is worth a whole lot more than a
> million dollars after taxes
> spread over 25 years, especially in our
> TV-conscious, image-driven society.

> Remember Erin has been on network television for
> about 4 - 5 months now.
> She didn't give up anything in my book.

> And oh yeah, lets edit it jsut right so it appears
> Erin is seeking a
> relationship.  Do you all realize they could take
> any 12 - 15 minutes of
> edits with either Chad or Wade and turn your
> feelings how they want you to
> feel?  If they want to shock you, they will have her
> pick Wade and convince
> you it is actually a hidden love she had for Wade.
> If they have her pick
> Chad they can shock you with all the edited tape of
> Chad being out only for
> the money that they have hidden just for the shock.
>  Remember this isn't a
> live show.  The whole series, including the part II
> (Erin's as the main
> character) was shot before the first episode of the
> first one ever aired.
> Enjoy it like a sitcom if you would like to, but
> understand that's as much
> reality as there is.  Mark my words, if you
> interview these people when they
> are 60 years old some day they will laugh and tell
> you how staged it was and
> how their only interest was the exposure their
> agents and business contacts
> told them they could get.

> That's not even being a cynic, its actually more far
> reality than you'll get
> from the show. :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sunni Star [mailto:sunnistar64@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:28 AM
> To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [forloveormoney] paige
>
>
> I don't have Paige's e-mail, but I wish I had Rob's
> and Chad's.  I am hoping
>
> she follows her heart and chooses Chad.  Any
> comments????
>
>
> >From: MetalBassPro@...
> >Reply-To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
> >To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [forloveormoney] paige
> >Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:07:51 EDT
> >
> >   Anyone got paige's e-mail? I think I am in love
> :)
> >
> >  Mike
>
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#130 From: Tara Cranfield <tmc430@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 4:50 pm
Subject: RE: paige
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I have sat here for the last month and have read every
e-mail that I have received from this group and this
is the first one I had to respond to.
I totally agree with everything that Tom wrote. I am
glad that someone else pointed out the fact that Erin
is not really giving up $1 million. She is giving up
$25,000 a year for 40 years and that is not with the
taxes taken out. I live about an hour and a half south
of San Francisco and let me tell you, $25,000 is
nothing. You can not retire and live off of it so I
think that Erin made a good choice in going for
"double or nothing". It does not matter to me how this
ends, part of me wants the fairy tale ending with her
finding love and the other side thinks that it would
be funny if she got turned down like she did to Rob.


--- Tom Wilson <tomwilson64@...> wrote:
> I was only an actor in a drama team at church, but
> learned a lot about
> acting in those 5 years.  I have e-mailed with Paige
> a few times, she seems
> nice enough in her responses.  As for the show and
> Erin's choices, I know
> this kind of ruins the fun, but this is really about
> lights, camera and
> action than real genuine love.  My feeling is people
> are so hungry to see
> good relationships that the networks simply
> capitalize on it by editing it
> just the right way to disguise the fact that these
> people are mostly
> interested in putting their lives on hold for the
> exposure it can give their
> hopes for a career in television.  This isn't like
> the woman you work with
> being chosen at random to participate and they hide
> the cameras and sit back
> and let everyone watch 24 hours a day.  This is 72 -
> 96 hours of several
> people's lives and interactions highly edited down
> to the 40 minutes or so
> of manipulation that lets them call it a reality
> show so people believe the
> tag.  In no way did Erin give up a million dollars
> for a chance at two
> million.  She gave up payments of about $1000 a
> month (after taxes) for 25
> years in exchange for an additional two months of an
> hour weekly network
> exposure which is worth a whole lot more than a
> million dollars after taxes
> spread over 25 years, especially in our
> TV-conscious, image-driven society.
>
> Remember Erin has been on network television for
> about 4 - 5 months now.
> She didn't give up anything in my book.
>
> And oh yeah, lets edit it jsut right so it appears
> Erin is seeking a
> relationship.  Do you all realize they could take
> any 12 - 15 minutes of
> edits with either Chad or Wade and turn your
> feelings how they want you to
> feel?  If they want to shock you, they will have her
> pick Wade and convince
> you it is actually a hidden love she had for Wade.
> If they have her pick
> Chad they can shock you with all the edited tape of
> Chad being out only for
> the money that they have hidden just for the shock.
>  Remember this isn't a
> live show.  The whole series, including the part II
> (Erin's as the main
> character) was shot before the first episode of the
> first one ever aired.
> Enjoy it like a sitcom if you would like to, but
> understand that's as much
> reality as there is.  Mark my words, if you
> interview these people when they
> are 60 years old some day they will laugh and tell
> you how staged it was and
> how their only interest was the exposure their
> agents and business contacts
> told them they could get.
>
> That's not even being a cynic, its actually more far
> reality than you'll get
> from the show. :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sunni Star [mailto:sunnistar64@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:28 AM
> To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [forloveormoney] paige
>
>
> I don't have Paige's e-mail, but I wish I had Rob's
> and Chad's.  I am hoping
>
> she follows her heart and chooses Chad.  Any
> comments????
>
>
> >From: MetalBassPro@...
> >Reply-To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
> >To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [forloveormoney] paige
> >Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:07:51 EDT
> >
> >   Anyone got paige's e-mail? I think I am in love
> :)
> >
> >  Mike
>
>
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#129 From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 3:58 pm
Subject: RE: paige
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I was only an actor in a drama team at church, but learned a lot about acting in those 5 years.  I have e-mailed with Paige a few times, she seems nice enough in her responses.  As for the show and Erin's choices, I know this kind of ruins the fun, but this is really about lights, camera and action than real genuine love.  My feeling is people are so hungry to see good relationships that the networks simply capitalize on it by editing it just the right way to disguise the fact that these people are mostly interested in putting their lives on hold for the exposure it can give their hopes for a career in television.  This isn't like the woman you work with being chosen at random to participate and they hide the cameras and sit back and let everyone watch 24 hours a day.  This is 72 - 96 hours of several people's lives and interactions highly edited down to the 40 minutes or so of manipulation that lets them call it a reality show so people believe the tag.  In no way did Erin give up a million dollars for a chance at two million.  She gave up payments of about $1000 a month (after taxes) for 25 years in exchange for an additional two months of an hour weekly network exposure which is worth a whole lot more than a million dollars after taxes spread over 25 years, especially in our TV-conscious, image-driven society.
 
Remember Erin has been on network television for about 4 - 5 months now.  She didn't give up anything in my book.
 
And oh yeah, lets edit it jsut right so it appears Erin is seeking a relationship.  Do you all realize they could take any 12 - 15 minutes of edits with either Chad or Wade and turn your feelings how they want you to feel?  If they want to shock you, they will have her pick Wade and convince you it is actually a hidden love she had for Wade.  If they have her pick Chad they can shock you with all the edited tape of Chad being out only for the money that they have hidden just for the shock.   Remember this isn't a live show.  The whole series, including the part II (Erin's as the main character) was shot before the first episode of the first one ever aired.  Enjoy it like a sitcom if you would like to, but understand that's as much reality as there is.  Mark my words, if you interview these people when they are 60 years old some day they will laugh and tell you how staged it was and how their only interest was the exposure their agents and business contacts told them they could get.
 
That's not even being a cynic, its actually more far reality than you'll get from the show. :-)
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I don't have Paige's e-mail, but I wish I had Rob's and Chad's.  I am hoping
she follows her heart and chooses Chad.  Any comments????


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>Subject: [forloveormoney] paige
>Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:07:51 EDT
>
>   Anyone got paige's e-mail? I think I am in love :)
>
>  Mike

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#128 From: "Sunni Star" <sunnistar64@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 3:27 pm
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I don't have Paige's e-mail, but I wish I had Rob's and Chad's.  I am hoping
she follows her heart and chooses Chad.  Any comments????


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>Subject: [forloveormoney] paige
>Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:07:51 EDT
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>   Anyone got paige's e-mail? I think I am in love :)
>
>  Mike

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#127 From: MetalBassPro@...
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 2:07 am
Subject: paige
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Anyone got paige's e-mail? I think I am in love :)

  Mike

#126 From: MetalBassPro@...
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 1:38 am
Subject: Re: To set the record somewhat straight re Erin
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In a message dated 9/2/03 1:25:36 AM, zeusthegreekgod2003@... writes:

<<

3. I have heard through work (I'm in the film business in LA) that her

agent has been negotiating a sports media position with a major

network/production house.  Perhaps there will be an announcement after

the conclusion of the show.  >>

   I am a musician. Maybe you know people in the record business? Hook me up
Bro. I'm tired of working at a Saw mill and wasting my talents.

  www.sanitysvoid.com

  mike

#125 From: Cricketmab <cricketmab@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2003 3:13 am
Subject: RE: Re:stop bashing erin
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Well, I don't know Erin or Paige so I can only base my opinion on how they come across on tv.  To me Erin doesn't seem sincere.  Rob and Paige does.  By the way, did anyone watch the reunion tonight?
Mary Ann

Tom Wilson <tomwilson64@...> wrote:
Real genuineness on reality TV is more rare than it seems.  Don't think Paige was genuine in For Love or Money I, a friend of mine (female) had lunch with her, I can't say what the circumstances were, but Paige wasn't who she seemed to be on the show either. Erin is what she is a youngest child who is going to bloom (in sincerity and many ways) later in her life.  She seems insincere because she doesn't know what she really wants yet.  In the post-war years people tend to mature much later in life than during the Greeat Depression or World War II when you had to mature to survive.  That's why the prase adult-children has become more popular.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:39 PM
To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [forloveormoney] Re:stop bashing erin

My problem with Erin has nothing to do with living off her parents, not getting a job or wanting to be an actress.  Erin just doesn't seem sincere to me.  I didn't like her on For Love or Money 1.  Thought maybe my feelings would change on Love or Money 2, but it hasn't.
Mary Ann
 

MetalBassPro@... wrote:

In a message dated 8/31/03 3:51:41 PM, moonbeam3672@... writes:

<< i dont see why everyone is having a problem with erin.
So what she isnt planning on getting a job.... I
wouldnt either if i got 2 million dollars. Next time
you want to bash erin try puting yourself in her
sheos.
>>

I was in her shoes once. I got a job. I hear she has moved to L.A. to work on
an acting career. Good luck she will need it. Watch her end up in porno
films.

mike


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#124 From: "Dave" <zeusthegreekgod2003@...>
Date: Mon Sep 1, 2003 1:40 pm
Subject: Re:stop bashing erin
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--- In forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com, MetalBassPro@a... wrote:
> " Watch her end up in porno
> films."
>

Mike -- Really? How unkind of you, and so unadult and common.

Several points in reponse to you and others:

1. She has not "lived off her parents."  (with apologies for the
quoted syntax).  Erin was in a management position in sales for a
high-tech firm.  She and the company jointly agreed a resignation was
appropriate when she decided to take the NBC offer for the second show.

2. She holds a degree in communication from a major university in the
LA area.  Neither LA nor the industry are foreign to her.

3. Her agent has been negotiating a sports media position with a major
network/production house.  Expect an announcement after the conclusion
of the show.

4. The "may parents need the money" was an ill-chosen throw away line
that I'm sure Erin regrets.  While he father suffered a serious stroke
a few years ago, he was one of the most successful golfers on the
senior pro tour.  He was far more successful there, in financial
terms, than as a professional football player in a era when
compensation was good, but not exceptional by most standards.

Why do comments such as yours have life on the internet?  Likely
because one can remain anynonimous.  It is sad, because it is also
likely that if your mother knew you made such coments about Erin
finding a job in porn, she would be greatly disappointed in you. Can't
we find the ability to communicate on a higher plane?

Dave G.

#123 From: "Dave" <zeusthegreekgod2003@...>
Date: Mon Sep 1, 2003 1:49 pm
Subject: To set the record somewhat straight re Erin
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Several points in reponse to you and others:

1. She has not "lived off her parents."  (with apologies for the
quoted syntax).  Erin was in a management position in sales for a
high-tech firm.  She and the company jointly agreed a resignation was
appropriate when she decided to take the NBC offer for the second show.

2. She holds a degree in communication from a major university in the
LA area.  Neither LA nor the industry are foreign to her. SHe has
already had one spots-related appearance on the East Coast.

3. I have heard through work (I'm in the film business in LA) that her
agent has been negotiating a sports media position with a major
network/production house.  Perhaps there will be an announcement after
the conclusion of the show.

4. The "my parents need the money" was an ill-chosen throw away line
that I'm sure Erin regrets.  While her father suffered a serious
stroke a few years ago, he was one of the most successful golfers on
the senior pro tour.  He was far more successful there, in financial
terms, than as a professional football player in a era when
compensation was good, but not exceptional by most standards.

I played in a pro-am tournement with John Brodie a number of years
ago.  He was a real gentleman. I expect the apple has not fallen far
from the tree.

I wish Erin the best in her future, wherever that future may take her.


Dave G.

#122 From: "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson64@...>
Date: Mon Sep 1, 2003 4:16 am
Subject: RE: Re:stop bashing erin
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Real genuineness on reality TV is more rare than it seems.  Don't think Paige was genuine in For Love or Money I, a friend of mine (female) had lunch with her, I can't say what the circumstances were, but Paige wasn't who she seemed to be on the show either. Erin is what she is a youngest child who is going to bloom (in sincerity and many ways) later in her life.  She seems insincere because she doesn't know what she really wants yet.  In the post-war years people tend to mature much later in life than during the Greeat Depression or World War II when you had to mature to survive.  That's why the prase adult-children has become more popular.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:39 PM
To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [forloveormoney] Re:stop bashing erin

My problem with Erin has nothing to do with living off her parents, not getting a job or wanting to be an actress.  Erin just doesn't seem sincere to me.  I didn't like her on For Love or Money 1.  Thought maybe my feelings would change on Love or Money 2, but it hasn't.
Mary Ann
 

MetalBassPro@... wrote:

In a message dated 8/31/03 3:51:41 PM, moonbeam3672@... writes:

<< i dont see why everyone is having a problem with erin.
So what she isnt planning on getting a job.... I
wouldnt either if i got 2 million dollars. Next time
you want to bash erin try puting yourself in her
sheos.
>>

I was in her shoes once. I got a job. I hear she has moved to L.A. to work on
an acting career. Good luck she will need it. Watch her end up in porno
films.

mike


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#121 From: Cricketmab <cricketmab@...>
Date: Sun Aug 31, 2003 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: Re:stop bashing erin
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My problem with Erin has nothing to do with living off her parents, not getting a job or wanting to be an actress.  Erin just doesn't seem sincere to me.  I didn't like her on For Love or Money 1.  Thought maybe my feelings would change on Love or Money 2, but it hasn't.
Mary Ann
 

MetalBassPro@... wrote:

In a message dated 8/31/03 3:51:41 PM, moonbeam3672@... writes:

<< i dont see why everyone is having a problem with erin.
So what she isnt planning on getting a job.... I
wouldnt either if i got 2 million dollars. Next time
you want to bash erin try puting yourself in her
sheos.
>>

I was in her shoes once. I got a job. I hear she has moved to L.A. to work on
an acting career. Good luck she will need it. Watch her end up in porno
films.

mike


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#120 From: MetalBassPro@...
Date: Sun Aug 31, 2003 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: Re:stop bashing erin
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In a message dated 8/31/03 3:51:41 PM, moonbeam3672@... writes:

<< i dont see why everyone is having a problem with erin.
So what she isnt planning on getting a job.... I
wouldnt either if i got 2 million dollars. Next time
you want to bash erin try puting yourself in her
sheos.
  >>

I was in her shoes once. I got a job. I hear she has moved to L.A. to work on
an acting career. Good luck she will need it. Watch her end up in porno
films.

  mike

#119 From: Rainie Shewczyk <moonbeam3672@...>
Date: Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: Re:stop bashing erin
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i dont see why everyone is having a problem with erin.
So what she isnt planning on getting a job.... I
wouldnt either if i got 2 million dollars. Next time
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#118 From: "Jaynie" <onechozen@...>
Date: Sun Aug 31, 2003 7:06 am
Subject: Re: It's gotten confusing; "living off her parents"
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I don't think she is all that!!


--- In forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com, MetalBassPro@a... wrote:
>   Ha ha ha read that she does not want to go work a real job. She's
got a
> pretty big head to think that she will make it in holly wood just
because of the
> show.
>
>  Mike
> In a message dated 8/30/03 4:21:09 AM, olson.melanie@v... writes:
>
> << Figures
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>
>   From: Jaynie [mailto:onechozen@y...]
>
>   Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:59 PM
>
>   To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com
>
>   Subject: [forloveormoney] Re: It's gotten confusing; "living off
her
>
> parents"
>
>
>
>   I read somewhere that she has moved to L.A. where she can pursue
an
>
>   acting career
>
>
>  >>

#117 From: MetalBassPro@...
Date: Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:23 am
Subject: Re: Re: It's gotten confusing; "living off her parents"
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Ha ha ha read that she does not want to go work a real job. She's got a
pretty big head to think that she will make it in holly wood just because of the
show.

  Mike
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<< Figures

   -----Original Message-----

   From: Jaynie [mailto:onechozen@...]

   Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:59 PM

   To: forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com

   Subject: [forloveormoney] Re: It's gotten confusing; "living off her

parents"



   I read somewhere that she has moved to L.A. where she can pursue an

   acting career


  >>

#116 From: "Melanie D. Olson" <olson.melanie@...>
Date: Sat Aug 30, 2003 4:15 am
Subject: RE: Re: It's gotten confusing; "living off her parents"
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Figures
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Subject: [forloveormoney] Re: It's gotten confusing; "living off her parents"

I read somewhere that she has moved to L.A. where she can pursue an
acting career



--- In forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com, "Melanie D. Olson"
<olson.melanie@v...> wrote:
> There ya go!!!  You've got the right idea.  Why don't they have a
true
> reality show instead of all the glitz and glamour, have one with
REAL
> people.  Probably nobody would watch that though.  Like, instead of
all
> these high priced dates, why couldn't they have a show where the
couple goes
> to the Sonic for a couple of brown bag specials for their date?  Oh
God, I'd
> love to see something like that.
> Sometimes I wonder why I'm so into this show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  LOL





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#115 From: "Jaynie" <onechozen@...>
Date: Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: It's gotten confusing; "living off her parents"
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I read somewhere that she has moved to L.A. where she can pursue an
acting career



--- In forloveormoney@yahoogroups.com, "Melanie D. Olson"
<olson.melanie@v...> wrote:
> There ya go!!!  You've got the right idea.  Why don't they have a
true
> reality show instead of all the glitz and glamour, have one with
REAL
> people.  Probably nobody would watch that though.  Like, instead of
all
> these high priced dates, why couldn't they have a show where the
couple goes
> to the Sonic for a couple of brown bag specials for their date?  Oh
God, I'd
> love to see something like that.
> Sometimes I wonder why I'm so into this show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  LOL
>

#114 From: "Jaynie" <onechozen@...>
Date: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:04 pm
Subject: site to watch past episodes
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This site has several different reality shows on it.. you can even
download if you like..

http://www.thebachelor.info/Bachelor%20related%20tv.htm

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