Just a heads up that if you want to know the production history behind Fireball
XL5, then Filmed in Supermarionation begins shipping shortly: 
www.filmedinsupermarionation.co.uk

Thanks

To any that are interested- I have posted a video on You Tube of my recently
completed CAD model of Fireball XL5.  Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CCneauICPI

Hi Dave

I agree with Don. Real Boss piece of 3D CAD modeling.
Great to see the results of your labour up on YouTube

Very well done.

Regards Keith

--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, don rinkus <c690240@...> wrote:
>
> MOST Impressive!
> I liked that coming at you frontal view, unique perspective.
>
> Star Trek Next Gen. saucer separation idea had to come from Fireball.
>
>
> Didn't someone at one time attempt build an actual scale model of Fireball Jr?
> One that you can actually walk in.
> Would be a nice attraction, somewhere it would be appreciated, of course.
>
> Don.
>
>
>
>  
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: dvd_ireland <direland@...>
> To: fireball@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 3:21:49 PM
> Subject: [fireball] New Fireball XL5 3-D CAD Model
>
>  
> Hello Everyone,
>
> As some of you may know, I have been working on an extensively detailed CAD
model of Fireball XL5 for some time now. For the most part, I have recently
completed it and generated a number of renderings. I have created a slide show
video presentation of some of the renderings and made it available for viewing
on You Tube.
>
> Simply type in "Fireball XL5 3-D CAD Model" in the You Tube search window and
it should come up. Be sure to turn up the sound.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Ireland
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

MOST Impressive!
I liked that coming at you frontal view, unique perspective.

Star Trek Next Gen. saucer separation idea had to come from Fireball.


Didn't someone at one time attempt build an actual scale model of Fireball Jr?
One that you can actually walk in.
Would be a nice attraction, somewhere it would be appreciated, of course.

Don.



 


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: dvd_ireland <direland@...>
To: fireball@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 3:21:49 PM
Subject: [fireball] New Fireball XL5 3-D CAD Model

 
Hello Everyone,

As some of you may know, I have been working on an extensively detailed CAD
model of Fireball XL5 for some time now. For the most part, I have recently
completed it and generated a number of renderings. I have created a slide show
video presentation of some of the renderings and made it available for viewing
on You Tube.

Simply type in "Fireball XL5 3-D CAD Model" in the You Tube search window and it
should come up. Be sure to turn up the sound.

Regards,

Dave Ireland







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

CHeck out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcDhY2BGRQQ for the first of a
three-part posting of the colorized version of "A Day In The Life of A Space
General".  It's in High Definition and completely beautiful!

Larry

Keith,

I found the changed setting and restored it to it's rightful value.  You can now
read the messages without logging in, but you must be logged on to post, reply,
or access other areas of the group.

Thanks again for the heads-up!!!

Larry

--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Larry
>
> I hope you are keeping well
> One thing I have noticed that has changed in the last few days is that we have
to Sign In to read the postings - whereas before any one could read the postings
to this Group without Sighing In.
> Is that a deliberate change?
> Regards Keith
>
> - In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, larry fugate <jfugate@> wrote:
> >
> > Test 3A
> >
> > Yahoo rejected by Test #3 post because I sent it from my GMail account,
> > which is not registered with them.  This one is from the email account that
> > IS registered with Yahoo!
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Hi, Keith!

No, Robin and I have made no changes to the group ourselves, but it appears that
Yahoo! may be doing so.  I'm checking the group's settings now.

Thanks!

Larry

--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Larry
>
> I hope you are keeping well
> One thing I have noticed that has changed in the last few days is that we have
to Sign In to read the postings - whereas before any one could read the postings
to this Group without Sighing In.
> Is that a deliberate change?
> Regards Keith
>
> - In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, larry fugate <jfugate@> wrote:
> >
> > Test 3A
> >
> > Yahoo rejected by Test #3 post because I sent it from my GMail account,
> > which is not registered with them.  This one is from the email account that
> > IS registered with Yahoo!
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Hi Larry

I hope you are keeping well
One thing I have noticed that has changed in the last few days is that we have
to Sign In to read the postings - whereas before any one could read the postings
to this Group without Sighing In.
Is that a deliberate change?
Regards Keith

- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, larry fugate <jfugate@...> wrote:
>
> Test 3A
>
> Yahoo rejected by Test #3 post because I sent it from my GMail account,
> which is not registered with them.  This one is from the email account that
> IS registered with Yahoo!
>
> Larry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Test 3A

Yahoo rejected by Test #3 post because I sent it from my GMail account,
which is not registered with them.  This one is from the email account that
IS registered with Yahoo!

Larry


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Okay, the posting directly to the group from the website works.  Now we'll see
if one sent via email works...

Larry

Hi, everyone!

I'm just testing to see if the forum is working.  I'm told that some can't post.
We'll see if this appears.....

Larry

Well there is no arguing the fact that Professor Matic is a super genius, just
take a look at his glasses.

Another thought occurred to me when watching "Whistle for Danger",  when Zoonie
incessant whistle blowing causes Robert to blow his stack the sound effect is
exactly that of a tea kettle whistle.   Perhaps Robert was the result of
Professor Matic failed attempted to build a machine to brew a perfect cup of
tea.   It would explain Robert's predisposition to blow steam out of his head at
the lease provocation.

Another thing,  then I watched the Star Trek movie The Voyage Home and they used
transparent aluminum, I thought to myself, I bet Robert is made out of
transparent aluminum.

So I google transparent aluminum and found out Oxford scientist have create
transparent aluminum using soft X-ray.  By the time Professor Matic invents
Robert in about 2062 transparent aluminum maybe as common as glass.

David


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Robin Day
   To: fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 1:11 PM
   Subject: Re: [Fireball XL5] Division Of Labor


     Hi david,
   Digittal photos? That would be incredible. It'll never happen in real life
   of course...

   I think Mattt's coffee receives a somewhat mixed reception.
   Still, his contributions to science in the formm of advances in robotics,
   the development of the Ultrascope and machines that can accomplish time
   travel may also have played a part in his importance to the UPO and the
   World Space Patrol in particular.

   Perhaps one key to his success as an inventor is that he's not afraid of
   getting things wrong and appearing foolish.
   He also appears to be an inventor for the sheer joy of it.

   Robin





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi :)
Came across this group when i randomly googled "XL5 a tribute" into google, Glad
you all enjoyed the Vid, and thanks for the nice comments, It was fun to make
:D.

In response to Kieths question im doing a 10 minuite Thunderbirds fanfilm with
my friends in Belfast, its nearly finished so more info should be coming later.

Great to see a large active XL5 forum still running.

Chris



--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> 'Real Boss' as they say in the WSP.
>
> I don't know what Chris Thompson is working on - but I'm definitely looking
forward to see the finished producty after watching his Fireball XL5 Tribute.
>
> Anybody know out there?
>
> Regards Keith
>
>
>
> --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, don rinkus <c690240@> wrote:
> >
> > WOW WOW & Double WOW!
> > Working on Thunderbirds, in what sense, movie?
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Fireball XL5 Tribute
> > Posted by: "cahelium" keith.ansell@   cahelium
> > Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:13 pm (PDT)
> >
> >
> > Howdy Folks
> > See the link below which Richard Farrell sent me yesterday.
> >
> > http://www.eagletra nsporter. com/forum/ showthread. php?p=124061& posted=1
> >
> > When the Eagle Transporter. com page opens just scroll up to the top and
click on the 'Fireball XL5 - A trubute' link.
> >
> > I think you will like it.
> >
> > Regards Keith
> >
>

Hi david,
Digittal photos? That would be incredible. It'll never happen in real life
of course...

I think Mattt's coffee receives a somewhat mixed reception.
Still, his contributions to science in the formm of advances in robotics,
the development of the Ultrascope and machines that can accomplish time
travel may also have played a part in his  importance  to the UPO and the
World Space Patrol in particular.


Perhaps one key to his success as an inventor is that he's not afraid of
getting things wrong and appearing foolish.
He also appears to be an inventor for the sheer joy of it.

Robin

I finally cashed in a round-to-it and watched "Whistle for Danger".

I believe, because of his brilliance at making machines that brew a prefect cup
of coffee, Professor Matic is the head of all scientific research for Space
City.

The picture at the conference room of Fireball XL5 does change.   Technology
perfected at the start of the 21st century called digital photography allows
this.   It's a digital picture frame that show digital photos.   Depending on
who has reserved the conference room it shows photos pertaining to them.   At
other times, it shows the Fireball ship currently ready for launch.

David

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: phydeaux44
   To: fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:54 AM
   Subject: [Fireball XL5] Division Of Labor


     Recently I was re-watching "Whistle For Danger", and was struck by the way a
scientific space mission was handled. During the initial discussion concerning
the planet Floran, Professor Matic sits in with Commander Zero and Lieutenant
Ninety. After XL5 makes its survey, the conference consists of Commander Zero,
Professor Matic, Venus and Steve.

   I had initially wondered why Venus wasn't asked to attend the first meeting
concerning Floran. But, after some thought, I felt that the Professor wasn't
just XL5's navigator and Chief Engineer, but also the Chief Science Officer as
well. Venus is also a competent scientist (and the ship's Medical Officer), but
protocol would dictate that the Professor be consulted first concerning possible
scientific missions for XL5.

   (Plus, does every Fireball have a Doctor of Medicine? I could see there being
a dedicated Science Officer on each Fireball, but Venus might be assigned to XL5
as an adjunct: part of the crew in order to carry out continuing deep space
medical research. In "Invasion Earth", Venus is busy inoculating several Earth
outposts against the spread of a disease. The job would've been simpler if each
Fireball had its own Medical Officer, so Venus' position could be considered
unique.)

   Back to the original discussion. Once the situation on Floran was proven to be
entirely biological in nature, Venus is asked to contribute her own findings
concerning the problem (with Matt still sitting in). This would make sense as
the opinion of a dedicated MD and biologist would be important in such a
problem.

   This episode made me feel that perhaps Professor Matic was not only the
Science Officer for XL5, but also occupied an executive position within the
World Space Patrol concerning matters involving scientific research and related
situations. XL5 might not have been the ship chosen to go to Floran, but it was
still necessary to consult Matt in regards to the problem (the fact that XL5's
crew included Venus might've been a deciding factor in assigning that ship to
the mission). It might be that Matt represents the "head" for the Patrol's
Science Division: keeping tabs on the particular specialities of various
Fireball Science Officers. He, Zero and Ninety would, as a result, consider
which Fireballs (or other Patrol ships) would be sent on scientific missions
(the patrol sectors for each Fireball would also be a consideration).

   On space missions, Venus is the crew member who spends the most time in the
laboratory on XL5 (her name, in fact, being on the laboratory door), but
Professor Matic still holds the position of Science Officer (having experience
and training in several disciplines, but he would defer to Venus on matters
medical or biological).

   (One other minor observation: a picture of XL5 is seen above the entrance to
the Conference Room. It's interesting to ponder why the picture would be of a
specific ship, rather than just a "generic" Fireball. Possibly XL5 is *the* ship
of the Patrol . . . as evidenced by the fact that the Patrol's Senior Astronaut
is at the helm . . . or perhaps the picture changes depending on which Fireball
is currently scheduled for launch.)

   Michael





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Liz

What happened to your response to my posting?

Regards Keith

--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy Folks
> See the link below which Richard Farrell sent me yesterday.
>
> http://www.eagletransporter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=124061&posted=1
>
> When the Eagle Transporter.com page opens just scroll up to the top and click
on the 'Fireball XL5 - A trubute' link.
>
> I think you will like it.
>
> Regards Keith
>

Hi, Just wanted to mention thaat Issue 8 of Andersonic is now available,
featuring a new interview with Fireball artist Mike Noble. Issue 8 also
features:-

• Stingray - is there more to Stingray's longevity than all that colour?
• Joe 90 - City of Dolls: a look at how the series captured the zeitgeist of the
late 60s.
• The Metamorph Retrospective - Our writers take a closer look at the colourful
opening episode of Space:1999's reboot.
• Beyond Century 21 - a look at the fate of costumes, instrumentation and
miniatures from the Anderson series after the closure of the studios... but
where exactly do Sid James and mashed potato fit into the equation?
• Space:1999/ Missing Link - a look at Edward di Lorenzo's thoughtful offering
from the first series.
• UFO/ The Square Triangle - UFO does melodrama. Classic episode reviewed.
• Things You Do - ...when you're a fan.

The new issue is available via the website www.andersonic.co.uk - price £2.25
including UK postage and also from eBay for a limited period. Thanks!

Hi Don

'Real Boss' as they say in the WSP.

I don't know what Chris Thompson is working on - but I'm definitely looking
forward to see the finished producty after watching his Fireball XL5 Tribute.

Anybody know out there?

Regards Keith



--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, don rinkus <c690240@...> wrote:
>
> WOW WOW & Double WOW!
> Working on Thunderbirds, in what sense, movie?
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Fireball XL5 Tribute
> Posted by: "cahelium" keith.ansell@...   cahelium
> Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:13 pm (PDT)
>
>
> Howdy Folks
> See the link below which Richard Farrell sent me yesterday.
>
> http://www.eagletra nsporter. com/forum/ showthread. php?p=124061& posted=1
>
> When the Eagle Transporter. com page opens just scroll up to the top and click
on the 'Fireball XL5 - A trubute' link.
>
> I think you will like it.
>
> Regards Keith
>

WOW WOW & Double WOW!
Working on Thunderbirds, in what sense, movie?
 
 
 
 
 
Fireball XL5 Tribute
Posted by: "cahelium" keith.ansell@...   cahelium
Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:13 pm (PDT)


Howdy Folks
See the link below which Richard Farrell sent me yesterday.

http://www.eagletra nsporter. com/forum/ showthread. php?p=124061& posted=1

When the Eagle Transporter. com page opens just scroll up to the top and click
on the 'Fireball XL5 - A trubute' link.

I think you will like it.

Regards Keith

Howdy Folks
See the link below which Richard Farrell sent me yesterday.

http://www.eagletransporter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=124061&posted=1

When the Eagle Transporter.com page opens just scroll up to the top and click on
the 'Fireball XL5 - A trubute' link.

I think you will like it.

Regards Keith

And if impatient for the book in the meantime, enjoy an extract from a Gerry
Anderson documentary of mine:
http://www.youtube.com/user/stephenlariviere#play/uploads/23/X5CFWP3at0M


--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information on the Fireball Zoom adverts Stephen.
>
> Have you got any idea why Network did not include all 3 on their Special
edition DVD boxed set?
>
> I have already preordered your book on the filmedinsupermarionation.co.uk
website by the way and am very much looking forward to reading it. I had
originally intended buying it on Amazon but the fact your website accepted
payment by Paypal made me change my mind.
> When do you hope to get preordered copies posted out?
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
> --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "de_la_riviere" <stellar@> wrote:
> >
> > Fireball XL5 was still in production after the first episode went out. The
cinema commercials were shot in around May 1963 (I have got an actual date
somewhere) and seems likely to have been the first thing shot at the new
Stirling Road studios. Stingray commenced shooting in June 1963.
> >
> > There's a note about it in my book... but I've not got the manuscript to
hand now, so can't confirm exactly.
> >
> >
> > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, Graeme Walker <graemewalker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Keith:
> > > I have to agree with you regarding the notion that it is a rebuilt
> > > control cabin. I'm pretty sure that the AP Films staff were well into
> > > pre-production on Stingray by the time they were commissioned to create
> > > the colour XL5 advert. I believe I'm right in thinking that Production
> > > on XL5 ceased during or just before its first run on TV. The sets and
> > > miniatures for XL5 would have been recycled into the world of Stingray
> > > or tossed into a rubbish skip by then. This would necessitate a new set
> > > for the cinema ad. Also, the commercial potential of Steve and Venus as
> > > 'spokes-puppets' would have only been viable after the series was shown
> > > on TV and it's popularity (& recognition factor) defined for the
> > > ice-lolly market to take notice.
> > > This is only my opinion but it seems to explain the new or refurbished
set.
> > > GW
> > >
> > > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > Hi Liz
> > >  >
> > >  > I'm not sure where Steve & Venus are standing. It almost looks like
> > > the main control cabin at first glance until you notice the observation
> > > screens are missing and our heroes are standing on a blue tiled floor. I
> > > suspect it is the rebuilt control cabin which featured in a few TV21
> > > colour cover shots that has been given a makeover for the Zoom advert
> > > rather than a set from the actual TV series.
> > >  >
> > >  > I look forward to your comments on the Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
> > >  >
> > >  > Regards Keith
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "Liz Beamish" <mrsgooner@> wrote:
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Thanks for that link, Graeme.  This is the only Fireball XL5 Zoom
> > > advert I can recall and I was most disappointed that it's not included
> > > in the extras on the new dvd set.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > As an aside - I 'm interested to see the unusual location for this
> > > clip.  Is it the jetmobile bay?  I'm looking at the small narrow window
> > > which can be seen behind Venus when Steve says, "Get your Zoom now."
> > > The only other time I can remember seeing this window in such detail is
> > > in XL5 to H2O.  (I think)
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Keith - I've been meaning to post a few words about the new boxset,
> > > which I agree is excellent.  I'll try and get that done asap.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Best wishes to everyone,
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Liz
> > >
> > > --
> > > Graeme Walker - Graphic Artist + Designer
> > >
> > > http://www.graemewalkergraphics.com
> > >
> > > Phone/ Fax: 905 839-5164
> > > Cell:  905 409-7219
> > >
> >
>

I don't work for Network, so I don't know.

The book will be shipped as soon as it arrives. Unfortunately, the publishers
haven't actually delivered the book to me yet. But I'm sure it'll be soon...



--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information on the Fireball Zoom adverts Stephen.
>
> Have you got any idea why Network did not include all 3 on their Special
edition DVD boxed set?
>
> I have already preordered your book on the filmedinsupermarionation.co.uk
website by the way and am very much looking forward to reading it. I had
originally intended buying it on Amazon but the fact your website accepted
payment by Paypal made me change my mind.
> When do you hope to get preordered copies posted out?
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
> --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "de_la_riviere" <stellar@> wrote:
> >
> > Fireball XL5 was still in production after the first episode went out. The
cinema commercials were shot in around May 1963 (I have got an actual date
somewhere) and seems likely to have been the first thing shot at the new
Stirling Road studios. Stingray commenced shooting in June 1963.
> >
> > There's a note about it in my book... but I've not got the manuscript to
hand now, so can't confirm exactly.
> >
> >
> > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, Graeme Walker <graemewalker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Keith:
> > > I have to agree with you regarding the notion that it is a rebuilt
> > > control cabin. I'm pretty sure that the AP Films staff were well into
> > > pre-production on Stingray by the time they were commissioned to create
> > > the colour XL5 advert. I believe I'm right in thinking that Production
> > > on XL5 ceased during or just before its first run on TV. The sets and
> > > miniatures for XL5 would have been recycled into the world of Stingray
> > > or tossed into a rubbish skip by then. This would necessitate a new set
> > > for the cinema ad. Also, the commercial potential of Steve and Venus as
> > > 'spokes-puppets' would have only been viable after the series was shown
> > > on TV and it's popularity (& recognition factor) defined for the
> > > ice-lolly market to take notice.
> > > This is only my opinion but it seems to explain the new or refurbished
set.
> > > GW
> > >
> > > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > Hi Liz
> > >  >
> > >  > I'm not sure where Steve & Venus are standing. It almost looks like
> > > the main control cabin at first glance until you notice the observation
> > > screens are missing and our heroes are standing on a blue tiled floor. I
> > > suspect it is the rebuilt control cabin which featured in a few TV21
> > > colour cover shots that has been given a makeover for the Zoom advert
> > > rather than a set from the actual TV series.
> > >  >
> > >  > I look forward to your comments on the Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
> > >  >
> > >  > Regards Keith
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "Liz Beamish" <mrsgooner@> wrote:
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Thanks for that link, Graeme.  This is the only Fireball XL5 Zoom
> > > advert I can recall and I was most disappointed that it's not included
> > > in the extras on the new dvd set.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > As an aside - I 'm interested to see the unusual location for this
> > > clip.  Is it the jetmobile bay?  I'm looking at the small narrow window
> > > which can be seen behind Venus when Steve says, "Get your Zoom now."
> > > The only other time I can remember seeing this window in such detail is
> > > in XL5 to H2O.  (I think)
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Keith - I've been meaning to post a few words about the new boxset,
> > > which I agree is excellent.  I'll try and get that done asap.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Best wishes to everyone,
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Liz
> > >
> > > --
> > > Graeme Walker - Graphic Artist + Designer
> > >
> > > http://www.graemewalkergraphics.com
> > >
> > > Phone/ Fax: 905 839-5164
> > > Cell:  905 409-7219
> > >
> >
>

Thanks for the information on the Fireball Zoom adverts Stephen.

Have you got any idea why Network did not include all 3 on their Special edition
DVD boxed set?

I have already preordered your book on the filmedinsupermarionation.co.uk
website by the way and am very much looking forward to reading it. I had
originally intended buying it on Amazon but the fact your website accepted
payment by Paypal made me change my mind.
When do you hope to get preordered copies posted out?

Regards
Keith

--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "de_la_riviere" <stellar@...> wrote:
>
> Fireball XL5 was still in production after the first episode went out. The
cinema commercials were shot in around May 1963 (I have got an actual date
somewhere) and seems likely to have been the first thing shot at the new
Stirling Road studios. Stingray commenced shooting in June 1963.
>
> There's a note about it in my book... but I've not got the manuscript to hand
now, so can't confirm exactly.
>
>
> --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, Graeme Walker <graemewalker@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Keith:
> > I have to agree with you regarding the notion that it is a rebuilt
> > control cabin. I'm pretty sure that the AP Films staff were well into
> > pre-production on Stingray by the time they were commissioned to create
> > the colour XL5 advert. I believe I'm right in thinking that Production
> > on XL5 ceased during or just before its first run on TV. The sets and
> > miniatures for XL5 would have been recycled into the world of Stingray
> > or tossed into a rubbish skip by then. This would necessitate a new set
> > for the cinema ad. Also, the commercial potential of Steve and Venus as
> > 'spokes-puppets' would have only been viable after the series was shown
> > on TV and it's popularity (& recognition factor) defined for the
> > ice-lolly market to take notice.
> > This is only my opinion but it seems to explain the new or refurbished set.
> > GW
> >
> > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hi Liz
> >  >
> >  > I'm not sure where Steve & Venus are standing. It almost looks like
> > the main control cabin at first glance until you notice the observation
> > screens are missing and our heroes are standing on a blue tiled floor. I
> > suspect it is the rebuilt control cabin which featured in a few TV21
> > colour cover shots that has been given a makeover for the Zoom advert
> > rather than a set from the actual TV series.
> >  >
> >  > I look forward to your comments on the Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
> >  >
> >  > Regards Keith
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "Liz Beamish" <mrsgooner@> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > Thanks for that link, Graeme.  This is the only Fireball XL5 Zoom
> > advert I can recall and I was most disappointed that it's not included
> > in the extras on the new dvd set.
> >  > >
> >  > > As an aside - I 'm interested to see the unusual location for this
> > clip.  Is it the jetmobile bay?  I'm looking at the small narrow window
> > which can be seen behind Venus when Steve says, "Get your Zoom now."
> > The only other time I can remember seeing this window in such detail is
> > in XL5 to H2O.  (I think)
> >  > >
> >  > > Keith - I've been meaning to post a few words about the new boxset,
> > which I agree is excellent.  I'll try and get that done asap.
> >  > >
> >  > > Best wishes to everyone,
> >  > >
> >  > > Liz
> >
> > --
> > Graeme Walker - Graphic Artist + Designer
> >
> > http://www.graemewalkergraphics.com
> >
> > Phone/ Fax: 905 839-5164
> > Cell:  905 409-7219
> >
>

Fireball XL5 was still in production after the first episode went out. The
cinema commercials were shot in around May 1963 (I have got an actual date
somewhere) and seems likely to have been the first thing shot at the new
Stirling Road studios. Stingray commenced shooting in June 1963.

There's a note about it in my book... but I've not got the manuscript to hand
now, so can't confirm exactly.


--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, Graeme Walker <graemewalker@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Keith:
> I have to agree with you regarding the notion that it is a rebuilt
> control cabin. I'm pretty sure that the AP Films staff were well into
> pre-production on Stingray by the time they were commissioned to create
> the colour XL5 advert. I believe I'm right in thinking that Production
> on XL5 ceased during or just before its first run on TV. The sets and
> miniatures for XL5 would have been recycled into the world of Stingray
> or tossed into a rubbish skip by then. This would necessitate a new set
> for the cinema ad. Also, the commercial potential of Steve and Venus as
> 'spokes-puppets' would have only been viable after the series was shown
> on TV and it's popularity (& recognition factor) defined for the
> ice-lolly market to take notice.
> This is only my opinion but it seems to explain the new or refurbished set.
> GW
>
> --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi Liz
>  >
>  > I'm not sure where Steve & Venus are standing. It almost looks like
> the main control cabin at first glance until you notice the observation
> screens are missing and our heroes are standing on a blue tiled floor. I
> suspect it is the rebuilt control cabin which featured in a few TV21
> colour cover shots that has been given a makeover for the Zoom advert
> rather than a set from the actual TV series.
>  >
>  > I look forward to your comments on the Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
>  >
>  > Regards Keith
>  >
>  >
>  > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "Liz Beamish" <mrsgooner@> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Thanks for that link, Graeme.  This is the only Fireball XL5 Zoom
> advert I can recall and I was most disappointed that it's not included
> in the extras on the new dvd set.
>  > >
>  > > As an aside - I 'm interested to see the unusual location for this
> clip.  Is it the jetmobile bay?  I'm looking at the small narrow window
> which can be seen behind Venus when Steve says, "Get your Zoom now."
> The only other time I can remember seeing this window in such detail is
> in XL5 to H2O.  (I think)
>  > >
>  > > Keith - I've been meaning to post a few words about the new boxset,
> which I agree is excellent.  I'll try and get that done asap.
>  > >
>  > > Best wishes to everyone,
>  > >
>  > > Liz
>
> --
> Graeme Walker - Graphic Artist + Designer
>
> http://www.graemewalkergraphics.com
>
> Phone/ Fax: 905 839-5164
> Cell:  905 409-7219
>

Hi Keith:
I have to agree with you regarding the notion that it is a rebuilt
control cabin. I'm pretty sure that the AP Films staff were well into
pre-production on Stingray by the time they were commissioned to create
the colour XL5 advert. I believe I'm right in thinking that Production
on XL5 ceased during or just before its first run on TV. The sets and
miniatures for XL5 would have been recycled into the world of Stingray
or tossed into a rubbish skip by then. This would necessitate a new set
for the cinema ad. Also, the commercial potential of Steve and Venus as
'spokes-puppets' would have only been viable after the series was shown
on TV and it's popularity (& recognition factor) defined for the
ice-lolly market to take notice.
This is only my opinion but it seems to explain the new or refurbished set.
GW

--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "cahelium" <keith.ansell@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hi Liz
  >
  > I'm not sure where Steve & Venus are standing. It almost looks like
the main control cabin at first glance until you notice the observation
screens are missing and our heroes are standing on a blue tiled floor. I
suspect it is the rebuilt control cabin which featured in a few TV21
colour cover shots that has been given a makeover for the Zoom advert
rather than a set from the actual TV series.
  >
  > I look forward to your comments on the Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
  >
  > Regards Keith
  >
  >
  > --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "Liz Beamish" <mrsgooner@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Thanks for that link, Graeme.  This is the only Fireball XL5 Zoom
advert I can recall and I was most disappointed that it's not included
in the extras on the new dvd set.
  > >
  > > As an aside - I 'm interested to see the unusual location for this
clip.  Is it the jetmobile bay?  I'm looking at the small narrow window
which can be seen behind Venus when Steve says, "Get your Zoom now."
The only other time I can remember seeing this window in such detail is
in XL5 to H2O.  (I think)
  > >
  > > Keith - I've been meaning to post a few words about the new boxset,
which I agree is excellent.  I'll try and get that done asap.
  > >
  > > Best wishes to everyone,
  > >
  > > Liz

--
Graeme Walker - Graphic Artist + Designer

http://www.graemewalkergraphics.com

Phone/ Fax: 905 839-5164
Cell:  905 409-7219

Hi Keith,

Thanks for your reply.  Yes, I too noticed the tiled floor and thought of the
TV21 pictures, but doesn't the advert pre-date TV21 by a good couple of years? 
I thought the adverts were done while they were still shooting the series, or
immediately after they had finished, but perhaps my memory is letting me down. 
(There's alot to be said for being 55 - and none of it good!!!)   After having
another look at the film, it seems the set has been modified for the advert as
there's a sort of "astroscope" type monitor in the first shot of S and V and
it's definitely not the navigation bay.  I've checked the episode XL5 to H2O and
the jetmobile bay does have a tiled floor, but the rectangular window we see in
that episode is not the same as we see here.  So all in all it looks like a load
of XL5 scenery just assembled for the purpose of shooting the advert.  However,
the ship's circular bulkhead, which we see behind Steve, and the open door-way
giving us a view beyond into another part of the ship, is a nice detail which
suggests that at least part of the set was something more substantial.  And it's
nice that they went to so much trouble for such a short piece of film.

Thanks again Graeme for giving us this link.

Liz
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: cahelium
   To: fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:39 PM
   Subject: [Fireball XL5] Re: Fireball XL5 Special Edition DVD Boxed Set


     Hi Liz

   I'm not sure where Steve & Venus are standing. It almost looks like the main
control cabin at first glance until you notice the observation screens are
missing and our heroes are standing on a blue tiled floor. I suspect it is the
rebuilt control cabin which featured in a few TV21 colour cover shots that has
been given a makeover for the Zoom advert rather than a set from the actual TV
series.

   I look forward to your comments on the Special Edition DVD Boxed Set

   Regards Keith

   --- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "Liz Beamish" <mrsgooner@...> wrote:
   >
   > Thanks for that link, Graeme. This is the only Fireball XL5 Zoom advert I
can recall and I was most disappointed that it's not included in the extras on
the new dvd set.
   >
   > As an aside - I 'm interested to see the unusual location for this clip. Is
it the jetmobile bay? I'm looking at the small narrow window which can be seen
behind Venus when Steve says, "Get your Zoom now." The only other time I can
remember seeing this window in such detail is in XL5 to H2O. (I think)
   >
   > Keith - I've been meaning to post a few words about the new boxset, which I
agree is excellent. I'll try and get that done asap.
   >
   > Best wishes to everyone,
   >
   > Liz
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: Graeme Walker
   > To: fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:52 PM
   > Subject: [Fireball XL5] Re: Fireball XL5 Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
   >
   >
   > Keith:
   > Micky Bister's site has Supermarionation advertisement clips online as
   > MOV files - including the ones you mention.
   > http://www.thunderbirds-and-friends.de/
   > Click on the 'Videoclips' button.
   > No idea what has been released with the DVDs. It's complicated, since
   > licensing is different for each region code and the extras vary with
   > each geographical set.
   > GW
   >
   > > 1a.
   > >
   > >
   > > Fireball XL5 Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
   > >
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fireballxl5/message/5644;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMG1rZGpsBF9\
TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUyMzc3MzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDM1MjkxBG1zZ0lkAzU2NDQEc2VjA2R\
tc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTI1MDY4NDI3Mg-->
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > Posted by: "cahelium" keith.ansell@...
   > >
<mailto:keith.ansell@...?Subject=%20Re%3AFireball%20XL5%20Special%20Edition%20DV\
D%20Boxed%20Set>
   > > cahelium <http://profiles.yahoo.com/cahelium>
   > >
   > >
   > > Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:51 pm (PDT)
   > >
   > > Howdy Folks Has every one bought their copy of the Fireball XL5
   > > Special Edition DVD Boxed Set released by Network Video yet? If so
   > > what do you think? I am very pleased with it. My only grip is that
   > > the extras only include 2 of the 3 colour Zoom Ice Lolly adverts.
   > > The third one features Steve standing besides Venus watching the
   > > launch of a Zoom shaped vertical take-off rocket. I'm sure I seen
   > > it somewhere recently but I can't remember where. It could be on
   > > one of my Fanderson videos - or I may have seen it at a Fanderson
   > > Convension. Does anyone know if the third Fireball Zoom advert
   > > appears on any of the Anderson DVD's. I can also remeber seeing a
   > > b/w Supercar Walls ice cream advert too with Jimmy holding a
   > > MASSIVE ice cream cone but I can't find that either. maybe it is
   > > on the same DVD? Regards Keith
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Liz

I'm not sure where Steve & Venus are standing. It almost looks like the main
control cabin at first glance until you notice the observation screens are
missing and our heroes are standing on a blue tiled floor. I suspect it is the
rebuilt control cabin which featured in a few TV21 colour cover shots that has
been given a makeover for the Zoom advert rather than a set from the actual TV
series.

I look forward to your comments on the Special Edition DVD Boxed Set

Regards Keith


--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, "Liz Beamish" <mrsgooner@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that link, Graeme.  This is the only Fireball XL5 Zoom advert I can
recall and I was most disappointed that it's not included in the extras on the
new dvd set.
>
> As an aside - I 'm interested to see the unusual location for this clip.  Is
it the jetmobile bay?  I'm looking at the small narrow window which can be seen
behind Venus when Steve says, "Get your Zoom now."  The only other time I can
remember seeing this window in such detail is in XL5 to H2O.  (I think)
>
> Keith - I've been meaning to post a few words about the new boxset, which I
agree is excellent.  I'll try and get that done asap.
>
> Best wishes to everyone,
>
> Liz
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Graeme Walker
>   To: fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:52 PM
>   Subject: [Fireball XL5] Re: Fireball XL5 Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
>
>
>     Keith:
>   Micky Bister's site has Supermarionation advertisement clips online as
>   MOV files - including the ones you mention.
>   http://www.thunderbirds-and-friends.de/
>   Click on the 'Videoclips' button.
>   No idea what has been released with the DVDs. It's complicated, since
>   licensing is different for each region code and the extras vary with
>   each geographical set.
>   GW
>
>   > 1a.
>   >
>   >
>   > Fireball XL5 Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
>   >
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fireballxl5/message/5644;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMG1rZGpsBF9\
TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUyMzc3MzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDM1MjkxBG1zZ0lkAzU2NDQEc2VjA2R\
tc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTI1MDY4NDI3Mg-->
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Posted by: "cahelium" keith.ansell@...
>   >
<mailto:keith.ansell@...?Subject=%20Re%3AFireball%20XL5%20Special%20Edition%20DV\
D%20Boxed%20Set>
>   > cahelium <http://profiles.yahoo.com/cahelium>
>   >
>   >
>   > Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:51 pm (PDT)
>   >
>   > Howdy Folks Has every one bought their copy of the Fireball XL5
>   > Special Edition DVD Boxed Set released by Network Video yet? If so
>   > what do you think? I am very pleased with it. My only grip is that
>   > the extras only include 2 of the 3 colour Zoom Ice Lolly adverts.
>   > The third one features Steve standing besides Venus watching the
>   > launch of a Zoom shaped vertical take-off rocket. I'm sure I seen
>   > it somewhere recently but I can't remember where. It could be on
>   > one of my Fanderson videos - or I may have seen it at a Fanderson
>   > Convension. Does anyone know if the third Fireball Zoom advert
>   > appears on any of the Anderson DVD's. I can also remeber seeing a
>   > b/w Supercar Walls ice cream advert too with Jimmy holding a
>   > MASSIVE ice cream cone but I can't find that either. maybe it is
>   > on the same DVD? Regards Keith
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Graham
Thanks very much for the link to the Thunderbirds and Friends site.
I recon that is where I have seen the missing Fireball Zoom advert before - and
the Supercar Walls ice cream one too.
My memory is obviously begining to play tricks on me since I hit the big 50 (or
should I admit to 55).

Regards
Keith

--- In fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com, Graeme Walker <graemewalker@...> wrote:
>
> Keith:
> Micky Bister's site has Supermarionation advertisement clips online as
> MOV files - including the ones you mention.
> http://www.thunderbirds-and-friends.de/
> Click on the 'Videoclips' button.
> No idea what has been released with the DVDs. It's complicated, since
> licensing is different for each region code and the extras vary with
> each geographical set.
> GW
>
> > 1a.
> >
> >
> >         Fireball XL5 Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
> >        
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fireballxl5/message/5644;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMG1rZGpsBF9\
TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUyMzc3MzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDM1MjkxBG1zZ0lkAzU2NDQEc2VjA2R\
tc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTI1MDY4NDI3Mg-->
> >
> >
> >
> >           Posted by: "cahelium" keith.ansell@...
> >          
<mailto:keith.ansell@...?Subject=%20Re%3AFireball%20XL5%20Special%20Edition%20DV\
D%20Boxed%20Set>
> >             cahelium <http://profiles.yahoo.com/cahelium>
> >
> >
> >             Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:51 pm (PDT)
> >
> >     Howdy Folks Has every one bought their copy of the Fireball XL5
> >     Special Edition DVD Boxed Set released by Network Video yet? If so
> >     what do you think? I am very pleased with it. My only grip is that
> >     the extras only include 2 of the 3 colour Zoom Ice Lolly adverts.
> >     The third one features Steve standing besides Venus watching the
> >     launch of a Zoom shaped vertical take-off rocket. I'm sure I seen
> >     it somewhere recently but I can't remember where. It could be on
> >     one of my Fanderson videos - or I may have seen it at a Fanderson
> >     Convension. Does anyone know if the third Fireball Zoom advert
> >     appears on any of the Anderson DVD's. I can also remeber seeing a
> >     b/w Supercar Walls ice cream advert too with Jimmy holding a
> >     MASSIVE ice cream cone but I can't find that either. maybe it is
> >     on the same DVD? Regards Keith
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks for that link, Graeme.  This is the only Fireball XL5 Zoom advert I can
recall and I was most disappointed that it's not included in the extras on the
new dvd set.

As an aside - I 'm interested to see the unusual location for this clip.  Is it
the jetmobile bay?  I'm looking at the small narrow window which can be seen
behind Venus when Steve says, "Get your Zoom now."  The only other time I can
remember seeing this window in such detail is in XL5 to H2O.  (I think)

Keith - I've been meaning to post a few words about the new boxset, which I
agree is excellent.  I'll try and get that done asap.

Best wishes to everyone,

Liz
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Graeme Walker
   To: fireballxl5@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:52 PM
   Subject: [Fireball XL5] Re: Fireball XL5 Special Edition DVD Boxed Set


     Keith:
   Micky Bister's site has Supermarionation advertisement clips online as
   MOV files - including the ones you mention.
   http://www.thunderbirds-and-friends.de/
   Click on the 'Videoclips' button.
   No idea what has been released with the DVDs. It's complicated, since
   licensing is different for each region code and the extras vary with
   each geographical set.
   GW

   > 1a.
   >
   >
   > Fireball XL5 Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
   >
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fireballxl5/message/5644;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMG1rZGpsBF9\
TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUyMzc3MzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDM1MjkxBG1zZ0lkAzU2NDQEc2VjA2R\
tc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTI1MDY4NDI3Mg-->
   >
   >
   >
   > Posted by: "cahelium" keith.ansell@...
   >
<mailto:keith.ansell@...?Subject=%20Re%3AFireball%20XL5%20Special%2\
0Edition%20DVD%20Boxed%20Set>
   > cahelium <http://profiles.yahoo.com/cahelium>
   >
   >
   > Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:51 pm (PDT)
   >
   > Howdy Folks Has every one bought their copy of the Fireball XL5
   > Special Edition DVD Boxed Set released by Network Video yet? If so
   > what do you think? I am very pleased with it. My only grip is that
   > the extras only include 2 of the 3 colour Zoom Ice Lolly adverts.
   > The third one features Steve standing besides Venus watching the
   > launch of a Zoom shaped vertical take-off rocket. I'm sure I seen
   > it somewhere recently but I can't remember where. It could be on
   > one of my Fanderson videos - or I may have seen it at a Fanderson
   > Convension. Does anyone know if the third Fireball Zoom advert
   > appears on any of the Anderson DVD's. I can also remeber seeing a
   > b/w Supercar Walls ice cream advert too with Jimmy holding a
   > MASSIVE ice cream cone but I can't find that either. maybe it is
   > on the same DVD? Regards Keith

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Keith:
Micky Bister's site has Supermarionation advertisement clips online as
MOV files - including the ones you mention.
http://www.thunderbirds-and-friends.de/
Click on the 'Videoclips' button.
No idea what has been released with the DVDs. It's complicated, since
licensing is different for each region code and the extras vary with
each geographical set.
GW

> 1a.
>
>
>         Fireball XL5 Special Edition DVD Boxed Set
>        
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fireballxl5/message/5644;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMG1rZGpsBF9\
TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzUyMzc3MzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDM1MjkxBG1zZ0lkAzU2NDQEc2VjA2R\
tc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTI1MDY4NDI3Mg-->
>
>
>
>           Posted by: "cahelium" keith.ansell@...
>          
<mailto:keith.ansell@...?Subject=%20Re%3AFireball%20XL5%20Special%2\
0Edition%20DVD%20Boxed%20Set>
>             cahelium <http://profiles.yahoo.com/cahelium>
>
>
>             Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:51 pm (PDT)
>
>     Howdy Folks Has every one bought their copy of the Fireball XL5
>     Special Edition DVD Boxed Set released by Network Video yet? If so
>     what do you think? I am very pleased with it. My only grip is that
>     the extras only include 2 of the 3 colour Zoom Ice Lolly adverts.
>     The third one features Steve standing besides Venus watching the
>     launch of a Zoom shaped vertical take-off rocket. I'm sure I seen
>     it somewhere recently but I can't remember where. It could be on
>     one of my Fanderson videos - or I may have seen it at a Fanderson
>     Convension. Does anyone know if the third Fireball Zoom advert
>     appears on any of the Anderson DVD's. I can also remeber seeing a
>     b/w Supercar Walls ice cream advert too with Jimmy holding a
>     MASSIVE ice cream cone but I can't find that either. maybe it is
>     on the same DVD? Regards Keith




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