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From: Jennifer Brouillard <jbrouillard@...>
Date sent: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:33:20 -0400
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Subject: [DisTexters] 101 Undiagnosed Celebrities with AS
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/asperger/top101.html
>
> I don't know that many of them, but it's an interesting read.
>
I'm not sure about most of them. (S)he seems to be using AS
interchangibly with "pain in the neck". One person speculated that
Larry Ellison had ADHD, and I'd readily interchange that with the
other category. :P
I'd agree with the diagnosis of Reg Hollis from "The Bill".
About Twinky-Winky: another case of interchangibility of
homosexuality and AS. One web site speculated that Jar Jar Binks
is gay, and I've speculated that Jace may have AS. Virginia Carper
also noted the similarities between Jace and Joxer.
> Jenn
Andjam
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Subject: Re: [DisTexters] Xena's road to recovery from broken legs
> Ah, Andjam -- you have never read Robert Maruo's
(Mauro, not Maruo for those interested in doing a web search)
> book "Real Crip Sex"?
Not yet.
> Maruo, who has post-polio syndrome, has self-published a book for folks
> with physical disabilities on how to have sex. No legs, one leg, etc.
It didn't happen to mention horse-back did it?
> Yes, you can have doggie-sex if your legs are not working too well -- just
> need to have your knees be stable.
Doggy-style probably wouldn't help if the injury was above the
knee, but odds are the injury was below the knee, right?
> I believe that Lao Ma cured Xena before the Adventures episodes.
Thanks.
> Virginia
Andjam
Ah, Andjam -- you have never read Robert Maruo's book "Real Crip Sex"? Maruo, who has post-polio syndrome, has self-published a book for folks with physical disabilities on how to have sex. No legs, one leg, etc. Yes, you can have doggie-sex if your legs are not working too well -- just need to have your knees be stable.
I believe that Lao Ma cured Xena before the Adventures episodes.
Virginia
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Subject: [DisTexters] Xena's road to recovery from broken legs
Spoiler space for flashback eps
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In AIST2, Xena spies upon a naked Amazon.
http://whoosh.org/issue37/diaz2.html and one commentary for the
episode liked Xena doing this, and the other commentaries were
neutral (ie there were no negative comments). A bit different to the
reaction to Joxer spying on semi-naked Amazons.
Was Xena able-bodied in that ep?
I think Kym interpreted my reference to a sex scene between Xena
and Borias as referring to the horse-back scene in The Debt (the
horse-back scene was in The Debt, wasn't it?).
But they also had sex in AIST1. Was Xena able-bodied at that
stage? (Would someone with bad legs be more likely or less likely
to have sex doggy-style?)
Andjam
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Spoiler space for flashback eps
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a
k
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m
a
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In AIST2, Xena spies upon a naked Amazon.
http://whoosh.org/issue37/diaz2.html and one commentary for the
episode liked Xena doing this, and the other commentaries were
neutral (ie there were no negative comments). A bit different to the
reaction to Joxer spying on semi-naked Amazons.
Was Xena able-bodied in that ep?
I think Kym interpreted my reference to a sex scene between Xena
and Borias as referring to the horse-back scene in The Debt (the
horse-back scene was in The Debt, wasn't it?).
But they also had sex in AIST1. Was Xena able-bodied at that
stage? (Would someone with bad legs be more likely or less likely
to have sex doggy-style?)
Andjam
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From: Jennifer Brouillard <jbrouillard@...>
Date sent: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:02:22 -0400
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Subject: RE: [DisTexters] Kym questions the existance of ablism
> Remember on Whoosh when Thelonius said he did not know what "ablism" was and
> doubted whether it was a word?
Yep.
> I don't think people would know the meaning,
> so I think Kym's suggestion is a good one.
We already provided a definition!
> Even my unabridged dictionary
> doesn't contain the word. (Yet it does contain a dictionary definition for
> "homophobia".)
I suppose it would depend to an extent on when it was written.
Really old dictionaries don't have either, more recent ones would
mention homophobia, and recent ones (perhaps more recent than
the ADA) would have both.
> Jenn
Andjam
Remember on Whoosh when Thelonius said he did not know what "ablism" was and
doubted whether it was a word? I don't think people would know the meaning,
so I think Kym's suggestion is a good one. Even my unabridged dictionary
doesn't contain the word. (Yet it does contain a dictionary definition for
"homophobia".)
Jenn
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Subject: [DisTexters] Kym questions the existance of ablism
... The word that is, not the ideology. :P
Kym has asked me to put in a dictionary reference that refers to
the word "ablism" was.
We may as well also include a dictionary reference to the word
"homophobia". (Otherwise, my article would appear to be pitched
at those who know what homophobia means but not what ablism
means)
Andjam
... The word that is, not the ideology. :P
Kym has asked me to put in a dictionary reference that refers to
the word "ablism".
We may as well also include a dictionary reference to the word
"homophobia". (Otherwise, my article would appear to be pitched
at those who know what homophobia means but not what ablism
means)
Andjam
handedness genetically or socially determined?
Genetically determined. They studied tools of early man which lead
folks to believe that he was left-handed. Lefties have better survival
rates in the natural world. Their brains can reconnect and retool
better than a right handed. Later when handedness wasn't needed for
survival, more right handers survived. Later, it became a dominant
gene. Then handedness became socially determined and then right
handedness became needed for survival. They burned lefties during the
Middle Ages for being servants of the Devil.
****
So in a sense it is a mixture of both genetics and culture, right?
Which reminds me: it's interesting to note that the word "right" itself has
become synonymous with "correct".
----> RIGHT!
However, in
the U.S., if you use both hands, you have to choose to be right handed
for purposes of education.
****
What?! I thought that stuff ended in the 1960s! My best friend is
ambidextrous and he didn't have that problem in our public school career
(1980-1993). He did notice at an early age, however, that writing with his
right hand was more comfortable for him, so maybe that had something to do
with it? Every now and then though he'd switch back to writing with his
left hand, but he mostly wrote with his right and I don't remember anyone
ever pressuring him to be right handed. (Maybe because he usually wrote
with his right?)
My grandfather was left handed and he used to get hit by the nuns for
writing with his left hand. He was stubborn though and resisted, until he
broke his left arm when he fell climbing a tree. He learned to write with
his right hand, and after that he felt it wasn't worth the struggle fighting
the nuns.
My mother felt some stigma growing up as a leftie. Some kids would look at
her funny when she would write with her left hand, and teachers would say on
the first day of school, "Oh, you are one of THOSE." And it was a pain for
her in uni sitting at those desks that were designed to support right elbows
and arms. On the other hand (pun intended), she is extremely talented
musically, while her right handed siblings are not, and her left handedness
might have something to do with that.
Virginia, did you face any stigma growing up as a leftie?
-----> Actually, the stress to write right-handed is alive and well in the U.S at least in the South. I am self taught in cursive writing. The teacher sat me in a corner with a writing booklet and told me to teach myself. My handwriting is really bad but I can print really well. ;) Stigma? Well, most of the folks in my family are lefties, so we provided a united front to a right-handed world. But, I got laughed at for doing everything backwards and being clumsy. BTW, President Gerald Ford, a famous lefty, was stigmatized because his natural inclination was to turn left, a no-no in international protocol. You have turn right, look right, etc. Reagan and Bush got around this by having the Secret Service position themselves to that they couldn't turn left and had to turn right. If you watch old film of them, you can see how they turn then 'right' themselves.
****
My son uses both hands but was told to write
with his right hand so his speech would be clear. Speech difficulties
and left-handiness go hand in hand. :)
****
So I'm assuming he has or had speech difficulties? I can understand the
thought processes behind the suggestion- the writing encourages fine motor
control signals in the left brain, which also controls speech and movement.
But to tell someone they HAVE to is just wrong.
--------> I know. But it was explained that if he used both hands, his brain would be mixed up.
Yours in Leftness,
Virginia, unreconstructed leftie.
> About handedness, there have been studies which show that early man
was
> left-handed, during the Greco-Roman time - shifted towards
right-handed,
> and by the Dark Ages, right handedness was the dominant trait. So any
> fiction set during Xena's time would left and right handers evenly
> divided.
Is handedness genetically or socially determined?
Genetically determined. They studied tools of early man which lead
folks to believe that he was left-handed. Lefties have better survival
rates in the natural world. Their brains can reconnect and retool
better than a right handed. Later when handedness wasn't needed for
survival, more right handers survived. Later, it became a dominant
gene. Then handedness became socially determined and then right
handedness became needed for survival. They burned lefties during the
Middle Ages for being servants of the Devil.
****
So in a sense it is a mixture of both genetics and culture, right?
Which reminds me: it's interesting to note that the word "right" itself has
become synonymous with "correct".
****
> As for left-handedness, because the modern world is structured toward
> right-handedness, the lefties die younger from accidents. However, in
> during the recent U.S. elections, most of the Presidential candidates
and
> Presidents were lefties -- Bush (both), Clinton, Ford, Carter, and
Reagan.
> They were tall too. Maybe being tall and left-handed is a
requirement
> for being U.S. President. ;)
I thought that Bush junior wasn't, though his father is left handed,
and that the other 3 primary candidates (McCain, Gore, the other
democrat candidate) were left-handed.
Bush junior uses both hands. Having a left handed father, Bush Jr.
probably ended using his left hand more than most folks.
****
I'm right handed, but growing up I used my left hand often because my mom is
left handed and all her kitchen tools were left handed.
When I was bored during classes in high school, I used to practice writing
with my left hand, but it's not much better than fourth grade penmanship.
****
However, in
the U.S., if you use both hands, you have to choose to be right handed
for purposes of education.
****
What?! I thought that stuff ended in the 1960s! My best friend is
ambidextrous and he didn't have that problem in our public school career
(1980-1993). He did notice at an early age, however, that writing with his
right hand was more comfortable for him, so maybe that had something to do
with it? Every now and then though he'd switch back to writing with his
left hand, but he mostly wrote with his right and I don't remember anyone
ever pressuring him to be right handed. (Maybe because he usually wrote
with his right?)
My grandfather was left handed and he used to get hit by the nuns for
writing with his left hand. He was stubborn though and resisted, until he
broke his left arm when he fell climbing a tree. He learned to write with
his right hand, and after that he felt it wasn't worth the struggle fighting
the nuns.
My mother felt some stigma growing up as a leftie. Some kids would look at
her funny when she would write with her left hand, and teachers would say on
the first day of school, "Oh, you are one of THOSE." And it was a pain for
her in uni sitting at those desks that were designed to support right elbows
and arms. On the other hand (pun intended), she is extremely talented
musically, while her right handed siblings are not, and her left handedness
might have something to do with that.
Virginia, did you face any stigma growing up as a leftie?
****
My son uses both hands but was told to write
with his right hand so his speech would be clear. Speech difficulties
and left-handiness go hand in hand. :)
****
So I'm assuming he has or had speech difficulties? I can understand the
thought processes behind the suggestion- the writing encourages fine motor
control signals in the left brain, which also controls speech and movement.
But to tell someone they HAVE to is just wrong.
****
Yours in Leftness,
Virginia, unreconstructed leftie.
****
Jenn
rightie with some leftie tendencies
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Subject: Re: [DisTexters] Handedness in fiction
> About handedness, there have been studies which show that early man was
> left-handed, during the Greco-Roman time - shifted towards right-handed,
> and by the Dark Ages, right handedness was the dominant trait. So any
> fiction set during Xena's time would left and right handers evenly
> divided.
Is handedness genetically or socially determined? Genetically determined. They studied tools of early man which lead folks to believe that he was left-handed. Lefties have better survival rates in the natural world. Their brains can reconnect and retool better than a right handed. Later when handedness wasn't needed for survival, more right handers survived. Later, it became a dominant gene. Then handedness became socially determined and then right handedness became needed for survival. They burned lefties during the Middle Ages for being servants of the Devil.
> As for left-handedness, because the modern world is structured toward
> right-handedness, the lefties die younger from accidents. However, in
> during the recent U.S. elections, most of the Presidential candidates and
> Presidents were lefties -- Bush (both), Clinton, Ford, Carter, and Reagan.
> They were tall too. Maybe being tall and left-handed is a requirement
> for being U.S. President. ;)
I thought that Bush junior wasn't, though his father is left handed,
and that the other 3 primary candidates (McCain, Gore, the other
democrat candidate) were left-handed.
Bush junior uses both hands. Having a left handed father, Bush Jr. probably ended using his left hand more than most folks. However, in the U.S., if you use both hands, you have to choose to be right handed for purposes of education. My son uses both hands but was told to write with his right hand so his speech would be clear. Speech difficulties and left-handiness go hand in hand. :)
Yours in Leftness,
Virginia, unreconstructed leftie.
From: Andjam <andjamgeo@...>
To: distexters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Handedness in fiction
Date sent: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:57:48 +1000
> "There is one thing I forgot to tell you - I'm not left handed" - The
> Princess Bride.
>
> There are estimates that about 1 in 10 people are left handed. Is
> this reflected in fiction? Are left-handers required to act as right-
> handers or vice versa? Are left-handed actors discriminated
> against?
>
> In many sporting areas (baseball, tennis AFAIK), left-handers have
> an edge and are well represented because most people (including
> left-handers themselves) are more familiar with playing against a
> right-handed player. Would this also be the case with fighting
> prowess? If so, wouldn't that make lack of representation of left-
> handers in fiction involving successful fighters more anomolous?
> (Though a character being successful due to handedness rather
> than having extra skills up one's sleeve may be boring).
I had a look at http://www.usopen.org/bios/top20.html and only 3 of
the top 20 men and women combined were left-handed - if
anything, a marginal under-representation of left-handers.
Not a good start...
Andjam
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> About handedness, there have been studies which show that early man was
> left-handed, during the Greco-Roman time - shifted towards right-handed,
> and by the Dark Ages, right handedness was the dominant trait. So any
> fiction set during Xena's time would left and right handers evenly
> divided.
Is handedness genetically or socially determined?
> As for left-handedness, because the modern world is structured toward
> right-handedness, the lefties die younger from accidents. However, in
> during the recent U.S. elections, most of the Presidential candidates and
> Presidents were lefties -- Bush (both), Clinton, Ford, Carter, and Reagan.
> They were tall too. Maybe being tall and left-handed is a requirement
> for being U.S. President. ;)
I thought that Bush junior wasn't, though his father is left handed,
and that the other 3 primary candidates (McCain, Gore, the other
democrat candidate) were left-handed.
> The only historical recorded lefty of Xena's time is Caesar, Julius
> Caesar.
I guess Carl didn't get that detail right either. :P
> Yours in left handedness,
> Virginia Carper
Andjam
About handedness, there have been studies which show that early man was left-handed, during the Greco-Roman time - shifted towards right-handed, and by the Dark Ages, right handedness was the dominant trait. So any fiction set during Xena's time would left and right handers evenly divided.
As for left-handedness, because the modern world is structured toward right-handedness, the lefties die younger from accidents. However, in during the recent U.S. elections, most of the Presidential candidates and Presidents were lefties -- Bush (both), Clinton, Ford, Carter, and Reagan. They were tall too. Maybe being tall and left-handed is a requirement for being U.S. President. ;)
The only historical recorded lefty of Xena's time is Caesar, Julius Caesar.
Yours in left handedness,
Virginia Carper
"Andjam" <andjamgeo@...>
04/15/01 07:00 AM
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Subject: [DisTexters] Handedness in fiction
"There is one thing I forgot to tell you - I'm not left handed" - The
Princess Bride.
There are estimates that about 1 in 10 people are left handed. Is
this reflected in fiction? Are left-handers required to act as right-
handers or vice versa? Are left-handed actors discriminated
against?
In many sporting areas (baseball, tennis AFAIK), left-handers have
an edge and are well represented because most people (including
left-handers themselves) are more familiar with playing against a
right-handed player. Would this also be the case with fighting
prowess? If so, wouldn't that make lack of representation of left-
handers in fiction involving successful fighters more anomolous?
(Though a character being successful due to handedness rather
than having extra skills up one's sleeve may be boring).
Most of the characters in XWP are right-handed, aren't they? What
about the actors / actresses for XWP?
Have they misrepresented any historical characters with respect to
handedness? :P
Andjam
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"There is one thing I forgot to tell you - I'm not left handed" - The
Princess Bride.
There are estimates that about 1 in 10 people are left handed. Is
this reflected in fiction? Are left-handers required to act as right-
handers or vice versa? Are left-handed actors discriminated
against?
In many sporting areas (baseball, tennis AFAIK), left-handers have
an edge and are well represented because most people (including
left-handers themselves) are more familiar with playing against a
right-handed player. Would this also be the case with fighting
prowess? If so, wouldn't that make lack of representation of left-
handers in fiction involving successful fighters more anomolous?
(Though a character being successful due to handedness rather
than having extra skills up one's sleeve may be boring).
Most of the characters in XWP are right-handed, aren't they? What
about the actors / actresses for XWP?
Have they misrepresented any historical characters with respect to
handedness? :P
Andjam
I just wanted to announce to everyone that I have been mistaken in thinking
that I am a guest editor for the All Joxer Whoosh issue, due out next
Sunday. I learned a few days ago that I was not nor ever was. I wanted to
let you know in case you look for such a credit, since you will not find
one. Kym has offered to mention me in her editorial, however- so the work
I've done will receive an acknowledgement.
Many of you know about the many hours I've put in to recruit and edit
articles for this issue. Many of you also know that this issue wouldn't be
happening if Joxer fans didn't organize and come together to write enough
articles and submit them together for an issue. We've succeeded in this and
we all should be proud of our effort. I know I am. It's better than any
acknowledgement.
So please, remember to check the edition out. The 11 articles that I
recruited and helped edit are top-quality, pro-Joxer pieces. Please support
these authors for their hard work if they receive jeers for their pro-Joxer
stance.
Jenn
(S.F.X.) Heartbeat. (B & W) Close up of a crescent
moon, errie clouds looming around it.
TITLE OVER MOON: Rumble High.
Bleak sea waves crash rocks on the shore.
TONYA: (V.O.) My name is Tonya Nimon. Night grows ever
shorter as I lay here in this dorm, dreaming the same
nightmare. Night after night since it happened. There
are no limits to what some people will do, they sink
to the lowest depts of evil. Unthinkable acts to most
human beings are indulged in by some. They leave
behind only death and the shattered lifes of the
survivors, if you could call this survival.
{DREAM IMAGES} Tonya stands on a balcony over looking
the rage of the sea in her dream, she's wearing a long
black gown. A shadow of a man with a knife comes up
behind her, as the knife comes down towards her the
heartbeat stops. Dramatic silence gives way to a
spooky opera type singing in the back ground as she
tries to run from the mans shadow.
TONYA: (V.O.) In my dream I always stare into the cold
dark eyes of the man who murdered my parents and I run
but I'm helpless as he kills me with the same way as
he killed them.
Tonya falls down as the shadow of the mans image.
Tonya cries out as footfalls grow closer.
TITLE OVER THE WAVES: Reurrection of Family Bonds.
The title drains into the waves as black and white
bleeds to color.
Tonya wakes up with a heavy gasp. A girl in the bunk
above her looks down at Tonya, it's obvious these two
don't like each other. Other girls are getting dressed
in the drom room.
LAURA: Ahem? (Irritated) What's your problem?
TONYA: (Dryly) Well for one thing having to wake up to
your ugly mug every morning.
LAURA: That does it! (Tosses a pillow at Tonya's head)
TONYA: Eh! (Tossing the pillow to the floor) Don't you
ever wash your sheets?
LAURA: Oh get up, bitch, I'm gonna kick your ass!
Tonya stands up and so does Laura.
TONYA: Yeah and if you keep it up I'll show you just
what a real bitch I can be. (Laura makes a fist) Don't
tempt me, skank.
Laura growls as she jumps up and lunges at Tonya but
she tosses the girl away from her like a rag doll. The
other girls just look on.
LAURA: Dammit! (Picks up a baseball bat in rage) I
will kill you!
Laura tries to hit Tonya with the bat but she chokes
slams Laura to the floor.
TONYA: Hum. (Yawns) Anybody else here wanna try to
screw with me?
KATE: We know better. (To the other girls) Let's just
go eat.
The other girls go about their business, as Tonya
kicks Laura onto her back. She then starts to get
dressed in her uniform herself. Then they all dressed
in the same uniform, as they eat at long tables. Tonya
walks in with her uniform but she's got on boots and
other accessories with it, she gets her tray. She
looks at the food and makes a face. Then she looks at
the fat, ugly lunch lady with a hair net over that
hangs over her forehead.
TONYA: I'll have some of the slop in that first pan
you got there. (Sarcasm) It's only the only thing that
looks like it was once food. (The lunch lady spoons
some on her tray) I take it the green and orange
things here were once... Hum, peas and carrots?
LUNCH LADY: Yes. (Points to another tray) You want the
meat dish, sunshine?
TONYA: Prime cut? (Scoffs) I can tell by the hoofs?
(Rasies an eyebrow) I'll pass.
Tonya takes a juice and sits at one of the tables, she
starts eating.
FULL FRAME TITLE: Crash Course.
Tonya sits on a park table outside in the recreational
area of the school. Above her 2 women look at her from
a second story window.
WOMAN: She's shows classic abandonment anger issues.
(Sighs) She is defiant, stubborn and at times sullen.
(Pauses) She's full of rage, so much so the other
girls fear her.
MARILYN: She's the picture of sadness. It has been
only six weeks since my sister and her husband were
killed. (Sighs) I'm not dealing with the loss well
myself since I haven't talked to my sister in awhile.
(Pauses) It still can't be as awful as what Tonya is
going through.
WOMAN: It's not my business to pry that deeply into
your personal life, Dr Nimon. (Clears her throat)
Unless you were to refect your estanged feelings for
your sister onto her child.
MARILYN: No it's not her fault. (Sighs) Besides that I
know she's been through enough in her short life. My
husband is dead as well and Allison... (Pauses) My
child is about the same age as Tonya and I feel that
they might help each other out with their problems.
WOMAN: You are the best member of the her true family
to take care of her and she needs family ties. (Taps a
file on her desk) She needs to learn to cope with her
loss, because she hasn't been. (Opens the file) She's
in a deep state of denial, she is very defensive if
you try to get her to open up about her true feelings.
(Sighs) She is very tough but there is a soft side to
her, I know I've seen it. (Pauses) There's a stray cat
she has been feeding.
MARILYN: I see. Well how soon can I take her home?
WOMAN: Now if you want.
MARILYN: I'll take her now then.
FULL FRAME TITLE: Walking on Broken Eggshells.
Marilyn walks into the dorm room where Tonya is
looking out a window at the moon.
TONYA: If you're a reporter, go to hell. (Turns to
face Marilyn) I'm not talking, got it?
MARILYN: Tonya, I'm your aunt Marlilyn.
TONYA: Aunt Marilyn? (Marilyn nods) The last time I
saw you I was five. You and my mother had some sort of
fight. (Looking away) Let me guess, guilt has cault up
to you since she and my father were butchered?
MARILYN: Tonya please?
TONYA: I heard you two yelling and all I heard was
that my mother did something to you. (Crosses her
arms) Something you couldn't forgive her for.
MARILYN: Look Tonya, all I will tell you is that it
was that bad but I still love my sister. (Pauses) Even
in death I hold a place in my heart for her and for
you.
TONYA: You don't even know me. (Scoffs) So what do you
want from me?
MARILYN: Fine vert your anger at me if you want. You
have two choices, either stay here or come live with
me and your cousin Allison.
TONYA: I can't stay here but if I come with you there
are a few things we have to clear up.
MARILYN: We will in time. (Smiles) Can I help you
pack?
TONYA: Most of my things are in storage after the
house was sold, because I didn't want anything good
stolen from me. As it is some of my clothes have come
up missing here.
Tonya picks up a large bag and stuffs it full of her
things.
MARILYN: We've been moving into her grandfather's
house this week.
TONYA: So one more isn't going to matter, huh?
FULL FRAME TITLE: Detachment.
Marilyn comes into the house, her father in law and
Allison are sitting in the living room.
ALLISON: Mom? (Stands up) How did it go?
MARILYN: She be right in.
Allison gives Tonya a huge hug when she walks in with
her bag in hand.
ALLISON: I'm glad you decided to live with us.
TONYA: You can stop hugging me now, little Miss Mary
Sunshine. (Allison backs off) I'm only here because I
my only other choice was that dorm, so lets take it a
tad slower.
MARILYN: I think you should show Tonya the bedroom you
two will share.
TONYA: There are only three bedrooms in this house?
(Rude) I take it is a little too much to ask for my
own room?
MARILYN: If there was one of course but sorry there
isn't another one.
TONYA: Were am I going to put all my stuff and the
stuff my parents had in our old house? It's in
storage. (Pauses) I don't know where it's all going to
fit in this house.
MARILYN: We'll put it in storage over the garage.
TONYA: Over the garage? (Allison points out the
window) Is that a garage apartment? (Allison nods)
Great then I can move in there and you can have your
room all to yourself.
MARILYN: I don't know about that Tonya, it's been
unused for years and I'd worry.
GRAMPA: Well why can't she use it? (Hacks) The
neighbors have two kids living in theirs and it ani't
even as big as that one. (Pauses) Hell why don't you
let them both live out there?
MARILYN: Well I was going to use part of it as an
office but if you girls wanna live out there. (Sighs)
I guess I can take your room for my office, Allison.
TONYA: Don't worry about us being alone out there.
(Pauses) I'll have a security and fire alarm put in.
(Scoffs) I also know Martial arts and other types of
hand to hand combat.
MARILYN: You do?
ALLISON: You mean like a Ninja Warrior or something?
TONYA: I don't have a crew of people adding camera
tricks for me if that's what you mean.
GRAMPA: (Laughing) You're all right kid.
MARILYN: There's some cleaning products in the
kitchen.
TONYA: You're about as subtile as a wild elephant in a
glass shop.
FULL FRAME TITLE: Scene of the Grime.
In the bathroom Tonya tosses an empty container in the
trash, as Allison walks in.
TONYA: That can of bathroom cleaner says it works
harder than you. (Scoffs) I've scrubbed, shined,
disinfected and deodorized. (Sits on the toilet lid)
All it did was bubble.
ALLISON: I can't believe you got all that gross mold
and mildew that was in here.
TONYA: You didn't see the worst of it, trust me.
ALLISON: It couldn't of been as bad as what was in the
refrgerator.
TONYA: I'm sure I don't want to know. (Yawns) How
about we hit the hay soon?
ALLISON: After I clean myself I'll make a space on the
floor for us to sleep.
TONYA: Yeah, the rest of this place can wait.
FULL FRAME TITLE: Reptile Lullaby.
Darkened room Allison sleeps peaceful on the floor
next to Tonya who isn't when she wakes them both up
with a hard scary gasp. Allison turns on the light as
she looks over at her.
ALLISON: Are you ok?
TONYA: It's nothing. (Pauses) Just a bad dream, that's
all.
ALLISON: Do you want to talk about it?
TONYA: It was dream, it's not real. (Rolls over)
Forget about and go back to sleep.
ALLISON: Suit yourself. (Turns off the light) Good
night.
TONYA: Yeah. (Sighs) Do you know what your mother and
my mother had a fight about?
ALLISON: I've always wondered about that myself.
TONYA: It must of been something really awful for two
sisters to stop talking for so long.
ALLISON: Cousin for what it's worth I'm sorry they
did.
TONYA: For what it's worth I think your mom feels even
more guilty about it since I saw her at the funerals
of my parents.
ALLISON: She wouldn't let me go for some reason.
TONYA: That's odd. (Yawns) Oh my, I think we need to
go back to sleep, huh?
ALLISON: Ok. (Sighs) Tonya? (Pauses) Sweet dreams
cousin.
{BLACK AND WHITE DREAM FLASH BACK}
Silence as a cemetery fades in, the funeral scene of
mourns becomes clearer and the peacher gives his
service. Silence gives slowly to the slight sound of
clock sounds. Tonya with two white flowers in hand,
looks over at her aunt Marilyn. Then she steps in
between her parents two coffins being lowered into the
ground she tosses the flowers on into each grave. The
wind blows her hair back, then rain starts falling.
The scene fades out.
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>> My husband ordered the WWF event on Pay Per View
and
> our guy friends came
> over to see it live. You don't like Stone Cold or
> The Rock? (Probably not
> if you like Triple H.)
::::
I like the Rock and Stone Cold as well as Triple H.
Some of the things Triple H says are just to funny.
THE ROCK: "Do you like pie?"
BEAVIS & BUTT-HEAD: "Yeah we'll have a piece. Huh,
huh!"
I like most of them really but "The Right To Censor" I
really hate them... Oh like that's a big shock huh?
He, he! Since I personally believe Censorship in
UNAMERICAN. Freedom of speech and all that. You don't
have to like my P.O.V. but that's why they make
crayons in so many colors. :)
::::::
Those are usually most
> people's favorites. I liked
> how Stephanie won her fight too. I liked the
> Undertaker better when he
> looked like an undertaker as opposed to this new
> biker look.
::::
The Undertaker and Kane are just huge they don't need
to do many moves. I wouldn't want to meet these two
guys in a dark alley. I'd just run away. Hey they are
too tough for me. I like to watch them on Smack Down I
never watch the Pay Per View. I'm too much of a tight
wad with my cash. :) He, He!
:::::
I miss Shane
> McMahan though- he was my fave.
::::
I enjoy watching him get beat up by the other guys.
:::::
>
> Hey MMc- the McMahans wouldn't be related to you,
> would they? *eg*
>
> Jenn
::::
Um, I don't really know. They spell it McMahon where
as in my family it's McMahan. I do have a slight
relation in show biz. But he's too far down the family
tree for me to ever contact him. James Garner is like
my 8th uncle. Oh well no chance of me ever using him
to launch my show biz goals huh? I might as well be a
complet stranger to him, which I pretty much am.
(Sighs) Anyway I've gotta go to my Joe job in a few
so. Adios from this Texan. M.Mc
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There are seizures and there are seizures. One can have 'absent' seizures which look you're nodding off or falling asleep. My husband has those all the time. People who don't know, think he just can't stay awake. Then there are the 'rage' seizures, where you beat the walls and feel no pain. My son has a number of scars from when he did just that. He was not aware of what was happening. So seizures come in all shapes and sizes. Joxer could be having absent seizures and no one would take notice.
Virginia
"Andjam" <andjamgeo@...>
03/03/01 03:03 AM
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Subject: [DisTexters] Frequencies of epileptic seizures
Someone (not Melissa Good or McMahon) wrote a sex scene for
Kerry and Dar (characters in Tropical Storm) in
merwolfpack@yahoogroups.com and by sheer coincidence had
some stuff about "unless Kerry is epileptic, which I think she is
not". It's ended up a bit of a debate more or less on whether it is ok
to assume that Kerry does not have epilepsy.
One of the arguments is that Kerry hasn't had any seizures so far
in the story, therefore she isn't epileptic. While this isn't bad
evidence (at least it's better than merely assuming "normal" people
don't have epilepsy, which is what I want to argue against), it's
possible for people to have only one or two epileptic seizures in a
lifetime, right?
Andjam
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Subject: Re: [DisTexters] Frequencies of epileptic seizures
> > it's
> > possible for people to have only one or two epileptic seizures in a
> > lifetime, right?
> >
> > Andjam
> >
> >
>
> Yes, it is totally possible to have only one or two in a life time and
> happens often as a result of past head trama....a high fever...a viral
> infection...electrical mis-fireing in the brain out of no where etc. the
> list
> goes on and on.
>
Thanks.
Virginia once suggested the damage caused in "King Con" was
severe enough to cause an epileptic seizure. I wonder if any
hurt/comfort fan fics have any of the characters experiencing
epileptic seizures.
> Christie Morgan
Andjam
In a message dated 03/03/2001 3:02:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, andjamgeo@... writes:
), it's possible for people to have only one or two epileptic seizures in a lifetime, right?
Andjam
Yes, it is totally possible to have only one or two in a life time and happens often as a result of past head trama....a high fever...a viral infection...electrical mis-fireing in the brain out of no where etc. the list goes on and on.
Christie Morgan
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Someone (not Melissa Good or McMahon) wrote a sex scene for
Kerry and Dar (characters in Tropical Storm) in
merwolfpack@yahoogroups.com and by sheer coincidence had
some stuff about "unless Kerry is epileptic, which I think she is
not". It's ended up a bit of a debate more or less on whether it is ok
to assume that Kerry does not have epilepsy.
One of the arguments is that Kerry hasn't had any seizures so far
in the story, therefore she isn't epileptic. While this isn't bad
evidence (at least it's better than merely assuming "normal" people
don't have epilepsy, which is what I want to argue against), it's
possible for people to have only one or two epileptic seizures in a
lifetime, right?
Andjam