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I wish I could tell you... but still... I must know...
was he actually riding a horse??? I have no
recollection of him ever being on a horse in any of
the shows... I'd like to see that!

Zeta

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necessary as in religion. It can be built up as an exact science by the
reasoner. Our highest assurance of the goodness of Providence seems to me to
rest in the flowers. All other things, our powers, our desires, our food, are
all really necessary for our existence in the first instance. But this rose is
an extra. Its smell and its colour are an embellishment of life, not a condition
of it. It is only goodness which gives extras, and so I say again that we have
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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the musical piece being
played at the beginning of the Connections 2 Episode #1 (Revolutions)?
It is the one that is being played when JB is riding in the country on
the horse.

Thanks for your help and I look forward to interacting with all of my
fellow Connections fans.

LP

Well i tried to post this before but no answer as been forthcoming so this time
there will be no clickable IMG SRC tags to let you see the latest pics of James
Burke. Instead, only URLs that you may probably have to cut n paste for
yourself.

  I include them here in a narrative style.  Damn it feels good to meet James
Burke.
=============================
As for meeting the man, the *legend* himself?   In person he seemed much more
personable than Dr. David Suzuki (though i admire Suzuki's eco-irateness).  In
fact James is very affable.  Every bit as charming as he seems on TV.  He's also
tall.

I asked James if... http://www.wontonway.com/freephorm/James_Burke.swf Damn it
feels good to be James Burke. He seemed to think it was, having just recently
seen the flash/animation.  I had to explain the gangsta reference though.  Which
made me feel very young and hip despite the crowsfeet.

   Normally i dislike the culture of celebrity, but now in my 5th decade, i
decided it was time to have my autograph cherry busted.  I gave it to James.  I
thought it might go to Bill Mumy, but you know, James was there for me.   :-)
  I asked him to sign my HP craptop and he was all like "Boyyyyyzzzz, let me
scratch a rhythm on the disc". He was a human beat machine. MC Burke we call him
now. Photo:

  http://i15.tinypic.com/33jlsg5.jpg


I was so impressed by James that I asked him if he wanted to be an official
member of our Vegan gang.  This way he's always welcome in Utah*.

And James was like "Yo, jump me in."
And I was like "You sure bro?"
And he was all like "Don't make me hit you first, biatch".
And I was like "Dude, hitting one of my heros, i don't know, it doesn't seem
right y'all".
And James, man, he was all like "BOOT TO THE HEAD! You damn pussy."

Afterwards we took the obligatory photo with each of of making half of the V-Gun
(Vegan) gang hand signals.  We look like crap cuz we just jumped him into the
gang yo.  He's bigger than me so he had an unfair advantage; that's why he looks
so utterly unscathed.  Did I mention that James is rather tall?  Photo:

  http://i18.tinypic.com/2mgm9mg.jpg


James is now in that pantheon of people who have been photo'd with the very
famous McVomit shirt. Sadly, Hall & Oates missed out on this great honor because
my ex-gf wouldn't let me wear it when we met them.  However, Dr. David Suzuki
shared in the honor last month. One of these links should work. Photo:

  http://tinypic.com/2rzwd2e.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/2rzwd2e.jpg

Sadly, i screwed up the gang hand signal, so Dr. Suzuki isn't an official part
of the gang.  Which is OK, because i don't want to jump in a guy who might know
martial arts.  ;-)  Carl Sagan has a nomination, and since i have connections
with two of his homeboys, I think it can be worked out.  I'll just go to his
Lakeview cemetery plot in Ithaca and do the ceremony there.  Odds are, when i
jump him in, i'll win.  Unless he goes for my brain.

UPDATE: Since writing the above, i did actually get to pay my respects at Carl
Sagan's grave last Monday. It was exceedingly humbling, and his grave is also
exceedingly humble, which actually bothers me a bit.  It was well worth the trip
and ending up in a ditch during an Ithaca blizzard.  You can see a bit of my
visit to see Carl's resting place in the videos here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwgYS-QAxSA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvysTdpN6CA

The famous McVomit shirt was there too. McVomit has also met Howard Lyman, Dan
"Bizarro" Pirraro, Persia White and Corey Feldman.  No Shatner or Mumy.  Yet. 
Just saying.

For those who emailed asking about the documentaries that i gave to James Burke
you can view or download them:

"Peaceable Kingdom" is available here:
http://dl.veg-tv.info/Peaceable%20Kingdom%20-%20A%20Tribe%20of%20Heart%20Documen\
tary.avi

^This is the first edition. Another version is expected later this year.  This
version spawned some unintended results and the second edition is meant to
prevent that from happening.  Don't go all free range on us now.  That would be
missing the point.

   I believe "Earthlings" (which has won a buttload of awards BTW) can be had
here. It's 695 MB, and fits perfectly on a 700MB CD:
http://dl.veg-tv.info/Earthlings.avi

People with slow connections who want to watch it streaming-style instead of
saving it can go to http://veg-tv.info/Earthlings

"The Witness" can be found  here:
http://dl.veg-tv.info/The%20Witness%20-%20A%20Tribe%20of%20Heart%20Documentary.a\
vi
http://attilahildmann.com/en/recipes.html


* People who are baffled by the Utah "Vegan gangs" references should email
camilla@... and ask about it.  She might even send you a photo!






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Once upon a time Sardonicus Rexx shaped the electrons to say...
> There were no attachments.  I did have URLs for the photos as well
> as their address within IMG SRC tags.  Do you have the list set to
> filter all HTML?  If so it's odd that neither you nor i were flagged
> abotu it.

I'm not the list maintainer for this list. :-)

-MZ
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Hi...MZ,


MegaZone <yahoo@...> wrote:                                  Once upon
a time Sardonicus Rexx shaped the electrons to say...
  > I posted a message about meeting James Burke.  With HTML IMG SRC
  > tags to see the pics.  It never appeared on the list.  What's up wit
  > that?

  This message?
  http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/connectionswithjamesburke/message/178


No.



  If it was another message, it may have had an attachment or something
  which is blocked.  If the images are online, just put the URLs in the
  email.


There were no attachments.   I did have URLs for the photos as well as their
address within IMG SRC tags.  Do you have the list set to filter all HTML?  If
so it's odd that neither you nor i were flagged abotu it.
Pat


PS I got to add Carl Sagan to my list this Monday. Of course he didn't say much.
He didn't say anything really.






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Once upon a time Sardonicus Rexx shaped the electrons to say...
> I posted a message about meeting James Burke.  With HTML IMG SRC
> tags to see the pics.  It never appeared on the list.  What's up wit
> that?

This message?
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/connectionswithjamesburke/message/178

If it was another message, it may have had an attachment or something
which is blocked.  If the images are online, just put the URLs in the
email.

-MZ
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"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-852-2171
<URL:http://www.megazone.org/>  <URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/> Eris

I posted a message about meeting James Burke.  With HTML IMG SRC tags to see the
pics.  It never appeared on the list.  What's up wit that?




PS I found Carl Sagan's grave yesterday, and cleared it of 3 feet of snow.



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MegaZone wrote:

> Yahoo groups are just webified mailing lists.  I never use the web
> interface - I'm typing this in emacs right now, running from within
> mutt, which is running on a FreeBSD box that I'm SSH'd into. :-)  You
> can treat Yahoo groups just like mailing lists, and never, ever use
> the web interface.
>
> The only time I use it are for the groups I help maintain, to approve
> posts, etc.
>
> Having been a mailing list admin on and off since 1994, it is
> definitely easier to manage a Yahoo group/list than Majordomo was.
> And even a bit easier than Mailman.
>
> I've been online since 1989, and I've seen a lot of 'social forums'
> rise and fall over the years.  Mailing lists seem to have some staying
> power in one form or another.


Similar story here, but not going as far back as MZ and no Linux :(.

YG does seem to be getting better (since 1999 anyway).

It must have been a thrill to meet Mr. Burke, he's one of my heroes.
Well, him and Britney, of course.

Paul
Calgary

andreea.rm wrote:

> Well, I don't know if these are pirated copies or some videos BBC
> planned to share through the online Google Video. I think Google has
> strong anti-piracy policies, and this is the old 1970 version. The
> quality is poor and the voice hard to understand (especially for non-
> english native), but I was excited to find these online (the same
> feeling I had when I discovered this group) so I shared it with you.
> You paid 175 for all 3 parts?


"The old 1970 version" is exactly what I wanted (as I saw it
originally), even if it doesn't have laser effects and 1920P triple
non-interlaced Ultra-High-SuperDefinition stuff.

It's the content, not the presentation (although in JB's case, the
presentation *is* very important, just not in a superficial way).

Which all 3 parts do you mean?

Paul

Once upon a time Rexx Sardoni (not really) shaped the electrons to say...
> * I think YahooGroups are an abomination and an affront to usenet
> newsgroups and only serve to balkanize the internet. And the interface
> is just as bad as i feared it might be. WTF?

Nice post overall.

As for this point, remember, before USEnet there were mailing lists.
Mailing lists and USEnet thrived alongside each other for many years.
Mailing lists and USEnet serve different purposes, one can't really
replace the other.

Yahoo groups are just webified mailing lists.  I never use the web
interface - I'm typing this in emacs right now, running from within
mutt, which is running on a FreeBSD box that I'm SSH'd into. :-)  You
can treat Yahoo groups just like mailing lists, and never, ever use
the web interface.

The only time I use it are for the groups I help maintain, to approve
posts, etc.

Having been a mailing list admin on and off since 1994, it is
definitely easier to manage a Yahoo group/list than Majordomo was.
And even a bit easier than Mailman.

I've been online since 1989, and I've seen a lot of 'social forums'
rise and fall over the years.  Mailing lists seem to have some staying
power in one form or another.

I still use USEnet, and I'm active on a lot of web forums these days
of course.

-MZ
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Hi All.

  First off this is my first ever YahooGroup. And it hurts. I'll be
sore for a month. * See more of this below

   So why am i here?  After recently reconnecting with heros from my
younger days (Carl Sagan, David Suzuki) i had a chance to meet James
Burke and Dr. Suzuki. Carl is long dead but his student protege was on
a maillist i ran about a decade ago. I plan on visiting his grave in
LakeView cemetery in Ithaca this spring. James Burke is up there in my
pantheon with Sagan and Suzuki, but sometimes we forget the people who
affected us.  Luckily meeting Suzuki got me thinking about other
influences like James Burke.

   Which leads me to tonight's lecture/meeting at SUNY Oswego.  Yes,
there was a *lot* of snow.  ;-)

   I thought James was far far more affable than Suzuki was, though i
think Suzuki is far more realistic about the future of life on earth.
James seems to try to avoid direct political commentary but Suzuki
dives right in.  I get the impression that James is not a fan of the
Bush administration. Suzuki clearly isn't.

   You're all wondering by now: Does it really feel good to be James
Burke? I asked James about the song and animation "Damn It Feels Good
To Be James Burke" and he said that somebody had recently directed him
to it.  He seemed amused by it, so i'm guessing this means that it IS
good to be James Burke.  :-)  He wasn't sure exactly which song it was
based on so i filled him in.

   James is tall.  He also looks good after all these years.  Better
than  expected.  He also seems good natured, which of course means
that he's probably scary when he's angry ;-)

   James was my very first autograph. I try not to go for the celeb
crap, but I couldn't resist. I had him sign my HP laptop.  He was more
than agreeable, which is nice since i didn't buy any of the books or
CD/DVDs he was selling.  I did however give him a copy of two
wonderful documentaries:

Earthlings
Peaceable Kingdom

   Over the last weekend i started talking to a Burke fan (Steve) on
YouTube and it turns out he was going to come all the way from
Pennsylvania to see James speak tonight.  At the autograph-table line
I spotted Steve and we started talking.  I took pics of him with James
and he got several of me.

   If I can stand any more of this Yahoo interface crapware stuff, i'll
upload the fresh pics.  Yahoo didn't even record my profile right, so
who knows what it will do with any pics.

   During the lecture, it was very much like watching his shows, but no
  reenactments.  He also moves at a pace that taxes most American
brains.  I took a few pictures during the lecture as well.

If you watch the Palmer site, you can see his speaking engagements and
plan for them.



* I think YahooGroups are an abomination and an affront to usenet
newsgroups and only serve to balkanize the internet. And the interface
is just as bad as i feared it might be. WTF?

Once upon a time andreea. rm shaped the electrons to say...
> Well, I don't know if these are pirated copies or some videos BBC

It was uploaded by a user - note the description is lifted from
Wikipedia, the BBC isn't going to do that.

> feeling I had when I discovered this group) so I shared it with you.
> You paid 175 for all 3 parts?

No, that sounds like the cost of just 'Connections'.

Connections isn't available as a consumer release, just educational,
so it costs a lot more.  Same with The Day The Universe Changed.
Though the prices have come WAY down - I paid US$750 for TDTUC and
US$1,000 for Connections (Yes, $100 an episode) back around 1998 for
the legitimate VHS released.

Then Connections came out on DVD and the price dropped, now it is
US$150 for the full
series. http://www.ambrosevideo.com/displayitem.cfm?vid=854

The Day The Universe Changed is still $750 for the series:
http://www.clearvue.com/productDetail.asp?objectID=20655

-MZ
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--- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bowers
<pbowers@...> wrote:
>
> andreea.rm wrote:
> > First episode
> > http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2010590024183774407
> > Second
> > http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6607607154723190303
> >
> > And more...
>
> What!? I just paid for the full DVD set.
>
> That's OK though, it was CAN$175 worth spent.
>
> I'm willing to pay for brilliance but I refuse to digitize and
upload my
> copy.
>
> Paul
>


Well, I don't know if these are pirated copies or some videos BBC
planned to share through the online Google Video. I think Google has
strong anti-piracy policies, and this is the old 1970 version. The
quality is poor and the voice hard to understand (especially for non-
english native), but I was excited to find these online (the same
feeling I had when I discovered this group) so I shared it with you.
You paid 175 for all 3 parts?

andreea.rm wrote:
> First episode
> http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2010590024183774407
> Second
> http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6607607154723190303
>
> And more...

What!? I just paid for the full DVD set.

That's OK though, it was CAN$175 worth spent.

I'm willing to pay for brilliance but I refuse to digitize and upload my
copy.

Paul

First episode
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2010590024183774407
Second
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6607607154723190303

And more...

The Wikipedia entry for The Day the Universe Changed has an external
link to a podcast of the series:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Universe_Changed
http://clickcaster.com/daytheuniversechanged

Interestingly, the podcast entry shows as having been created by James
Burke; however, it looks like they were all captured from a television
(cable) broadcast; so, I am dubious. The shows can be streamed or
downloaded from there in MP4 format.

I heard about this offer in a roundabout, Connections-type of way,
seeing it mentioned at a thoughtful site unrelated to James Burke. I
have no affiliation with the seller.

Paul
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http://www.documentary-video.com/displayitem.cfm?vid=854

Connections 1 (DVD version)
10 VOLUMES ON 5 DVD'S


Product Details:
-English subtitled for the hearing impaired
-10 Volumes on 5 DVDs
-Series Running Time: 8 Hours and 20 minutes
-Available for delivery to US destinations only
-Region 1
-Rating: General audiences
-Color
Producer:  BBC and Time Life  Release Date: July 2001
Series Price:  $395.00  (5 DVDs in series)
Sale Price:  $149.99   Purchase this series



"This is another superb example of the genuis of James Burke, whose
Connections Series has rightly garnered all sorts of awards...This
journey will introduce the student to the famous as well as the
obscure. This film is a wonderful intellectual romp," -The American
Film and Video Review

This ten volume series was made in 1978 by turning science into a
detective story, James Burke creates a series that will fascinate
students and adults alike. This interdisciplinary approach has never
before been applied to history or science and it succeeds
tremendously. Winner of the Red Ribbon in the American Film Festival,
the scope of the series covers 19 countries and 150 locations,
requiring over 14 months of filming.

As the Sherlock Holmes of science, Burke tracks through 12,000 years
of history for the clues that lead us to eight great life changing
inventions-the atom bomb, telecommunications, the computer, the
production line, jet aircraft, plastics, rocketry and television.
Burke postulates that such changes occur in response to factors he
calls "triggers," some of them seemingly unrelated. These have their
own triggering effects, causing change in totally unrelated fields as
well. And so the connections begin...



Connections DVD No. 1

Volume 1:The Trigger Effect
Both the beginning and the end of the story are here. The end is our
present dependence on complex technological networks illustrated by
the NYC power blackouts. Life came almost to a standstill: support
systems taken for granted failed. How did we become so helpless?
Technology originated with the plow and agriculture. Each invention
demands its own follow-up: once started, it is hard to stop. This
segment ends in Kuwait, where society has leapt from ancient Egypt to
the technology of today in 30 years.

Volume 2: Death in the Morning
How did a test of gold's purity revolutionize the world 2500 years
ago and lead to the atomic bomb? Standardizing precious metal in
coins stimulated trade from Greece to Persia, causing the
construction of a huge commercial center and library at Alexandria.
This wealth of nautical knowledge aided navigators 14 centuries
later. Mariners discovered that the compass's magnetized needle did
not point directly north. Investigations into the nature of magnetism
led to the discovery of electricity, radar and to the atomic bomb.

Connections DVD No. 2

Volume 3: Distant Voices
Telecommunications exist because the Normans wore stirrups at the
Battle of Hastings- a simple advance that caused a revolution in the
increasingly expensive science of warfare. Europe turned its
attention to making money to wage wars. As mine shafts were dug
deeper, they became flooded, stimulating scientists like Galileo to
investigate vacuums, air pressure and other natural laws to mine
deeper silver. This led to the discovery of electricity and
magnetism's relationship and to the development of radio, and deep
space telecommunications that may enable contact with galactic
civilizations.

Volume 4: Faith in Numbers
Each development in the organization of systems (political, economic,
mechanical, electronic)influences the next, by logic, by genius, by
chance, or by utterly unforeseen events. The transition from the
Middle ages to the Renaissance was influenced by the rise of
commercialism, a sudden change in climate, famine and the Black
Death, which set the stage for the invention of the printing press.

Connections DVD No. 3

Volume 5: The Wheel of Fortune
The power to see into the future with computers originally rested
with priest-astronomers who knew the proper times to plant and
harvest. The constellations influenced life spectacularly,
particularly when the ailing Caliph of Baghad was cured by an
astrologer using Greek lore. His ancient medical secrets were
translated and spread throughout Europe, ushering in an era of
scientific inquiry. The need for more precise measuring devices in
navigation gave rise to the pendulum clock, the telescope, forged
steel and interchangeable machine parts-the basis of modern
industrial system.

Volume 6: Thunder in the Skies
A dramatically colder climate gripped Europe during the 13th century
profoundly affecting the course of history for the next seven
centuries. The changes in energy usage transformed architecture and
forced the creation of new power sources. The coming of the
Industrial Revolution, spurred on by advances in the steam engine,
scarred England indelibly: but a moment in history later, gasoline-
powered engines opened the way to the heavens.

Connections DVD No. 4

Volume 7: The Long Chain
Often, materials discovered by accident alter the course of the
world. In the 1600s Dutch commercial freighters controlled Atlantic
trade routes. Competing British lines induced America to produce
pitch to protect hulls of their royal vessels. This arrangement
lasted until 1776, after which a Scottish inventor tried to produce
pitch from coal tar. By the time he succeeded the navy was using
copper instead. Subsequent experiments with coal tar yielded gaslight
lamps, waterproofed garments, a brilliant mauve dye that established
the German chemical industry and nylon, the first of the miracle
plastics.

Volume 8: Eat, Drink and Be Merry
When Napoleon marched huge forces across Europe, he needed an
efficient way to store provisions. A Frenchman preserved sterilized
food in empty champagne bottles, an idea modified by the British, who
tried tin cans. Still, canned foods sometimes spoiled, which led to
experiments with refrigeration. Later, it was discovered that gases
may be stored at very low temperatures in a thermos flask, a device
handy for picnics, for polar explorers and for, storing large
quantities of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. When lit by a spark these
gases can send rockets into space.

Connections DVD No. 5

Volume 9: Countdown
What happens when you combine a carbon arc light, a billiard ball
coating, a spoked wheel and consecutive images? Motion pictures!
Complex and sometimes incredible events led to Thomas Edison's
remarkable invention; the beginnings of limelight on a Irish
mountain; George Eastman's production of celluloid from the slightly
explosive gun cotton; the "magic lantern" of an Austrian ballistics
teacher. Then Eadweard Muybridge settled a bet in 1872 by
photographs; does a horse raise all four feet when galloping? (Yes.)
Today moving pictures, together with television, are enormously
powerful mass media. Have we become trapped by our own technology?

Volume 10: Yesterday, Tomorrow and You
"Why did we do it this way?" Essential moments from the previous
programs are reviewed to illustrate the common factors that make for
change. Will they go on operating to affect our futures? And if so,
can we recognize them? The second half looks at the extent to which
we have become increasingly incapable of understanding how change
occurs in our complex world and at why we are in such a predicament.
Finally, there is a look ahead to the need for radical change in the
availability and use of information in the future, if we are to
remain in control of our destinies.

Hi,

I'm not aware of transcripts, but there is a book that accompanies the
series: http://www.amazon.com/Connections-James-Burke/dp/0316116726


--- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, "dohhhaz"
<dohhhaz@...> wrote:
>
> --- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, "arpena_ar"
> <arpena_ar@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody have subtitles or the script of the first Connections?
> > Thanks, Alf
>
> I, also, would be interested in the script of the first Connections.
>

--- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, "arpena_ar"
<arpena_ar@...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody have subtitles or the script of the first Connections?
> Thanks, Alf

I, also, would be interested in the script of the first Connections.

Does anybody have subtitles or the script of the first Connections?
Thanks, Alf

Here:
http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?
mode=torrentdetails&id=498885&torrent=James_Burke_The_Day_The_Universe_Changed#c\
o
mments

On Friday, October 28, 2005 James Burke will be the keynote speaker at
Kean University's Transfer Technology Conference.

For more information, please see:

www.kean.edu/~techtran

This is two , surely there's more of us somewhere , but their not old enough
yet......Bob

I wish James Burke was in his hay-day and take on the story of oil ..That would
be something to see.......


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Paul Bowers
   To: connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 11:52 AM
   Subject: Re: [Connections with James Burke] Re: new member question about
older show


   And it's going to get worse, in my opinion.

   I'm no luddite (I use computers and software every day with my website,
   using CAD software, etc.), but I see *too much* reliance on technology
   and the forgetting of how to do simple things without it.

   It only takes a couple of generations to do away with that "old, useless
   way of doing things" and putting the technology band-aid on more serious
   issues tends to quell public concerns until something else undesired
   happens. But by the time that that happens, we have all this new
   technology(!) that can be implemented! It seems to be recursive.

   Many of the old tech/skilled/trade jobs have been marginalized or
   eliminated due to automation and the knowledge at the "local" level has
   been cast off to history in many situations. The promise has always been
   that technology will improve society (flying cars, work only 3
   days/week, become an "idea person" rather than a lowly worker) but
   things don't seem to be working out that way in the real world.

   It's quite sad, actually, to see so many centuries of technological
   progress and knowledge get stuffed into software and then largely forgotten.

   Speaking as an old draftsman, I've seen the trade/profession change from
   one that required talent, learned skills and dedication to one where the
   ability to click a mouse and know specific software has become more
   important. This is convenient for MBA/manager-types, since complicated
   thought and consideration is now relegated to the machine and can be
   easily counted. The people that operate the machines can now be measured
   by a simple time-and-motion study.

   This list has been fairly inactive lately, I hope these comments will
   spark some lively discussion and exchange of ideas.

   Paul

   qqf_avengers wrote:

   > Yes, that's definitely the one. It's all about the infamous 1967 NE
   > blackout. His point is that one tiny little piece of technology (a
   > trip relay, in this case) can cause a collapse of all our technology
   > (and therefore our society) because of the extremely complex
   > technical interdependence that every has these days. It seems more
   > true today that it was then. And, believe me, our electrical systems
   > are worse off today than they were in 1967 despite improvements in
   > technology. It's jumbled like a Christmas tree!
   >
   > I mean, look at how Katrina has affected the entire country and
   > economy. It's a domino effect.
   >
   > Michael




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Sorry about the information on the trip breaker giving out but that's technology
the more we count on technology the more it will let us down , I was an
electrician for 40 years and worked on power houses and watched accidents being
built into said power houses , enough said about technology ...........What's
the big one problem is these large corp.'s getting all the products under one
corporate roof , the oil co's to be precise , the major oil co's ( make no
different what they're call or what name they go by ) they started 40 years ago
to eliminate the independent oil producers , they've done that and now their
working on the independent station owners and will soon put them out of business
then they will control the entire world oil supply , if you think 3.00 dollar
gasoline is high , wait and see what your grand-children will pay when all the
independent dealers are gone , even if we manage to get the best hybrid car
under production it will take 60 dollars to fill the ten gallon tank and where
has it gotten us ? nowhere .

I have lived 75 years and have watched all the moves the large Corporations 
building little by little and when Uncle Ronny took all the controls off in his
administration , thats like taking the gloves off and going bare knuckles with
the big boys , I'm here to tell you --you ain't got a chance in hell in beating
them at their own game ................Bob Fansler Sr. --Oct.2 2005

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: qqf_avengers
   To: connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 11:12 AM
   Subject: [Connections with James Burke] Re: new member question about older
show


   Yes, that's definitely the one. It's all about the infamous 1967 NE
   blackout. His point is that one tiny little piece of technology (a
   trip relay, in this case) can cause a collapse of all our technology
   (and therefore our society) because of the extremely complex
   technical interdependence that every has these days. It seems more
   true today that it was then. And, believe me, our electrical systems
   are worse off today than they were in 1967 despite improvements in
   technology. It's jumbled like a Christmas tree!

   I mean, look at how Katrina has affected the entire country and
   economy. It's a domino effect.

   Michael

   --- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, "Mike"
   <mikeatl1@g...> wrote:
   > Thanks.
   > To be sure, and take the scenes further, he started with the NE
   brown-
   > out years ago, that one little piece of malfunctioning equipment
   caused
   > all the choas, then - what would you do?  Flee the city?  But
   you'd
   > only get as far as your gas would take you, you'd have to abandon
   your
   > car on the highway and start walking to look for shelter and
   food.  You
   > might find a farm, but could you milk cows, grow food, etc.?.?
   >
   >
   > --- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, qqf_avengers
   > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
   > > It sounds like you are referring to the very first episode of
   the
   > > original Connections series.
   > >
   > > Michael
   > >
   > > --- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, "Mike"
   > > <mikeatl1@g...> wrote:
   > > > It seems I once saw a program (one episode) where James took
   us
   > > through
   > > > the "what if" scenario if we had to survive/function through
   > another
   > > > brown/black out.  Does anyone know the name of such a program?
   > > > It was a big pre-Y2K subject, but appropriate for today too.




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And it's going to get worse, in my opinion.

I'm no luddite (I use computers and software every day with my website,
using CAD software, etc.), but I see *too much* reliance on technology
and the forgetting of how to do simple things without it.

It only takes a couple of generations to do away with that "old, useless
way of doing things" and putting the technology band-aid on more serious
issues tends to quell public concerns until something else undesired
happens. But by the time that that happens, we have all this new
technology(!) that can be implemented! It seems to be recursive.

Many of the old tech/skilled/trade jobs have been marginalized or
eliminated due to automation and the knowledge at the "local" level has
been cast off to history in many situations. The promise has always been
that technology will improve society (flying cars, work only 3
days/week, become an "idea person" rather than a lowly worker) but
things don't seem to be working out that way in the real world.

It's quite sad, actually, to see so many centuries of technological
progress and knowledge get stuffed into software and then largely forgotten.

Speaking as an old draftsman, I've seen the trade/profession change from
one that required talent, learned skills and dedication to one where the
ability to click a mouse and know specific software has become more
important. This is convenient for MBA/manager-types, since complicated
thought and consideration is now relegated to the machine and can be
easily counted. The people that operate the machines can now be measured
by a simple time-and-motion study.

This list has been fairly inactive lately, I hope these comments will
spark some lively discussion and exchange of ideas.

Paul

qqf_avengers wrote:

> Yes, that's definitely the one. It's all about the infamous 1967 NE
> blackout. His point is that one tiny little piece of technology (a
> trip relay, in this case) can cause a collapse of all our technology
> (and therefore our society) because of the extremely complex
> technical interdependence that every has these days. It seems more
> true today that it was then. And, believe me, our electrical systems
> are worse off today than they were in 1967 despite improvements in
> technology. It's jumbled like a Christmas tree!
>
> I mean, look at how Katrina has affected the entire country and
> economy. It's a domino effect.
>
> Michael

Yes, that's definitely the one. It's all about the infamous 1967 NE
blackout. His point is that one tiny little piece of technology (a
trip relay, in this case) can cause a collapse of all our technology
(and therefore our society) because of the extremely complex
technical interdependence that every has these days. It seems more
true today that it was then. And, believe me, our electrical systems
are worse off today than they were in 1967 despite improvements in
technology. It's jumbled like a Christmas tree!

I mean, look at how Katrina has affected the entire country and
economy. It's a domino effect.

Michael

--- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, "Mike"
<mikeatl1@g...> wrote:
> Thanks.
> To be sure, and take the scenes further, he started with the NE
brown-
> out years ago, that one little piece of malfunctioning equipment
caused
> all the choas, then - what would you do?  Flee the city?  But
you'd
> only get as far as your gas would take you, you'd have to abandon
your
> car on the highway and start walking to look for shelter and
food.  You
> might find a farm, but could you milk cows, grow food, etc.?.?
>
>
> --- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, qqf_avengers
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > It sounds like you are referring to the very first episode of
the
> > original Connections series.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, "Mike"
> > <mikeatl1@g...> wrote:
> > > It seems I once saw a program (one episode) where James took
us
> > through
> > > the "what if" scenario if we had to survive/function through
> another
> > > brown/black out.  Does anyone know the name of such a program?
> > > It was a big pre-Y2K subject, but appropriate for today too.

Thanks.
To be sure, and take the scenes further, he started with the NE brown-
out years ago, that one little piece of malfunctioning equipment caused
all the choas, then - what would you do?  Flee the city?  But you'd
only get as far as your gas would take you, you'd have to abandon your
car on the highway and start walking to look for shelter and food.  You
might find a farm, but could you milk cows, grow food, etc.?.?


--- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, qqf_avengers
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> It sounds like you are referring to the very first episode of the
> original Connections series.
>
> Michael
>
> --- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, "Mike"
> <mikeatl1@g...> wrote:
> > It seems I once saw a program (one episode) where James took us
> through
> > the "what if" scenario if we had to survive/function through
another
> > brown/black out.  Does anyone know the name of such a program?
> > It was a big pre-Y2K subject, but appropriate for today too.

I Strongly Encourage all of you to download [Torrent it if need
be] 'The Essential Lectures of Alan Watts'.

Google: Torrent 'Alan Watts'.

Now if You notice, you find a very strong relation with the Anology of
James Burkes 1st Connection (though I was rather disapointed with the
following Connections) and the Essential Lectures of Alan Watts; And
now we'd find a whole world of new questions.

Cheers,

J

It sounds like you are referring to the very first episode of the
original Connections series.

Michael

--- In connectionswithjamesburke@yahoogroups.com, "Mike"
<mikeatl1@g...> wrote:
> It seems I once saw a program (one episode) where James took us
through
> the "what if" scenario if we had to survive/function through another
> brown/black out.  Does anyone know the name of such a program?
> It was a big pre-Y2K subject, but appropriate for today too.