Oh, that was one of Rick Hearst's best rolls!  I don't think I would settle
for a re-cast! lol  I know, I know, I'm to picky! lol
Dee

----- Original Message -----
From: <merilee61@...>
To: <b-and-b@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 1:24 PM
Subject: [b-and-b] Re: Whip


> I have to agree with you there.  I would like to see Whip come back.
> It would have to be a recast though unless they could lure Rick
> Hearst away from General Hospital.
>
> Merilee
>
> --- In b-and-b@yahoogroups.com, "Dee" <ndelores@c...> wrote:
> > I think tptb made a big mistake when they let him go.  I think he
> and Brooke could have made an interesting couple if the writers would
> have just tried harder to focus on them!
> > jmo,
> >
> > Dee
> > A sense of humor will get you through anything!
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send a BLANK email to:
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>
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>
>

I have to agree with you there.  I would like to see Whip come back.
It would have to be a recast though unless they could lure Rick
Hearst away from General Hospital.

Merilee

--- In b-and-b@yahoogroups.com, "Dee" <ndelores@c...> wrote:
> I think tptb made a big mistake when they let him go.  I think he
and Brooke could have made an interesting couple if the writers would
have just tried harder to focus on them!
> jmo,
>
> Dee
> A sense of humor will get you through anything!
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I think tptb made a big mistake when they let him go.  I think he and Brooke
could have made an interesting couple if the writers would have just tried
harder to focus on them!
jmo,

Dee
A sense of humor will get you through anything!


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In a message dated 12/28/02 12:03:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
annk919@... writes:


> I'm not a Brooke fan either - I started watching the show about the time she
> and Deacon were doing the nasty, and I was intrigued that a mother could
> actually do that to her own child.  She hasn't redeemed herself to me at
> all - and then to find out she has been with the father and two sons
> besides - ewwww.  That's way sick.
>

Brooke hasnt changed one bit over the years I have watched. If anything, she
has gotton alot worse!  I have been watching since Brooke first came on.

                                                 Robin


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Hey everyone.........

Welcome to the list!! It's great to have everyone here....in less than 14 hours,
there are already 72 of us here, and we're "still" growing. Not shabby :) hee

I wanted to let everyone know there were a couple of spoilers posted on
Thursday. If you were not on the list then, please feel free to go into the
"message" area off the homepage, just click on the word "messages" and you'll
find those right at the top of all messages posted to the list. There are ALWAYS
"spoiler spaces" typed vertically as not to ruin anything for those who like the
element of surprise and don't want to read them :)

Also....if you notice any posts you're sending to the list coming through slow
today, that's just because either Kitty of myself are in the different sections
updating and creating for this list. We're pretty well done now...but we will be
in and out here and there today. I was awake until 4:30AM "trying" to get all of
this completed....but no such luck (you really can't get much typing done when
you're so tired that you can't see) :) .... j/k

One item that was left off of the "dreaded rules" (not intentionally) was
this....I personally think it's a 'fair' one.

We have no problem with anyone bashing any B&B "character" (ie: Brooke) :), but
I don't feel it's fair to bash the actors themselves. This is what I mean:

"I can't believe Brooke slept with her daughter's husband. What a slut" This is
fine, as you're talking about "Brooke" the character. If you say, "The actress
that plays Brooke is a slut" this is NOT fine....here you're bashing the
actress.

You will learn early on, that personally, I am "not" a "Brooke" fan, but this
has to make the actress, Katherine Kelly Lang, sure doing a great acting job if
she can get me to dislike "Brooke" as much as I do. :)
The writing team.....especially Baby Bell -- well...they're fair game...LOL
I don't know how some of these actors work with the material their given :)

Enjoy the list.....both Kitty and I are here 24/7 if you need us for
anything.....I've added our private email addresses to the footer of each email
sent to this list so you'll always have it :)

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--- ann <annk919@...> wrote:
> I'm not a Brooke fan either - I started watching the
> show about the time she and Deacon were doing the
> nasty, and I was intrigued that a mother could
> actually do that to her own child.  She hasn't
> redeemed herself to me at all - and then to find out
> she has been with the father and two sons besides -
> ewwww.  That's way sick.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dee
>   To: b-and-b@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 7:00 AM
>   Subject: [b-and-b] Brooke
>
>
>   Oh good!
>   For a minute there I thought I was gonna be the
> only one here that didn't like Brooke! lol
>   It's such a relief to know I'm not alone!
>   I have to say, that after Stephanie stepped in and
> took over Brooke that she became a little more
> likable until she started getting to close to Ridge
> again.  I just don't think that Ridge and Brooke can
> be just friends like they keep saying they are.
>   I would also like to add that if Bridget wasn't a
> factor in the Brooke and Deacon triangle, then they
> would have made a good couple.  However, since
> Bridget was made part of the triangle based on her
> being married to Deacon this is not going over well
> with me at all either.
>   jmo,
>
>
>   Dee
>   A sense of humor will get you through anything!
>
I also don`t like Brooke. I can`t believe she did that
to her daughter. I`ve watched the show since it
started. Tammy

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I'm not a Brooke fan either - I started watching the show about the time she and
Deacon were doing the nasty, and I was intrigued that a mother could actually do
that to her own child.  She hasn't redeemed herself to me at all - and then to
find out she has been with the father and two sons besides - ewwww.  That's way
sick.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dee
   To: b-and-b@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 7:00 AM
   Subject: [b-and-b] Brooke


   Oh good!
   For a minute there I thought I was gonna be the only one here that didn't like
Brooke! lol
   It's such a relief to know I'm not alone!
   I have to say, that after Stephanie stepped in and took over Brooke that she
became a little more likable until she started getting to close to Ridge again. 
I just don't think that Ridge and Brooke can be just friends like they keep
saying they are.
   I would also like to add that if Bridget wasn't a factor in the Brooke and
Deacon triangle, then they would have made a good couple.  However, since
Bridget was made part of the triangle based on her being married to Deacon this
is not going over well with me at all either.
   jmo,


   Dee
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This is how I feel also - I know the baby is innocent, but I couldn't handle
having my half sister be my step daughter - it's just sick.  I'm not sure
Bridget has forgiven her mother - she just wants to get past it, and that means
no discussing it.  Actually if it were me, I would tell everyone what my mother
and my husband did to me.  Bridget is a much nicer person than I am.

I'm also new to this group and I love it.  I love all things B&B, even though
I'm a fairly recent viewer.  The whole Macy-Thorne thing is new to me, but
anything that centers on him is ok with me cause he is eye candy.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Inga "Kitty" Trimm
   To: b-and-b@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:45 PM
   Subject: [b-and-b] Re: Eric in the know


   See I agree.  I don't think I could ever forgive my mother either or even
   see her because her baby would be that constant reminder and a painful one
   at that.

   Kitty




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Oh good!
For a minute there I thought I was gonna be the only one here that didn't like
Brooke! lol
It's such a relief to know I'm not alone!
I have to say, that after Stephanie stepped in and took over Brooke that she
became a little more likable until she started getting to close to Ridge again. 
I just don't think that Ridge and Brooke can be just friends like they keep
saying they are.
I would also like to add that if Bridget wasn't a factor in the Brooke and
Deacon triangle, then they would have made a good couple.  However, since
Bridget was made part of the triangle based on her being married to Deacon this
is not going over well with me at all either.
jmo,


Dee
A sense of humor will get you through anything!


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In a message dated 12/27/02 11:47:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
merilee61@... writes:


> Heck,
> really I love all of the things going on right now but I don't think
> I will ever be one of Brooke's fans.
>
> Merilee
>
>
>

Thats something that you and I BOTH agree on Merilee! LOL IMO, Brooke thinks
with one part of her body......and it sure isnt her head! Anyway, welcome to
the group!

                                                    Robin


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In a message dated 12/27/02 10:10:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
itrimm@... writes:


> I just knew that Eric was going to forgive Brooke - he always does!  But if
> Ridge does find out I don't know if he will and if he does I do not think
> it will be so quickly.
>
> I also think that Eric is going to be a little upset with Stephanie about
> keeping him in the dark.  My question is, is he going to tell Bridget that
> he knows now what happened to her?  I wonder how Bridget would feel about?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Kitty
>
>
>
>

When they were in Brooke's room, didnt they both agree that nobody would ever
find out who Hope's real father was?

                                            Robin


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Coming up on The Bold and The Beautiful...

NOTE:

B&B will be airing Classic episodes on Tuesday, December 31 and Wednesday,
January 1, 2003.

S
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S
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     * Can Eric convince Deacon to leave town? And what happens when Ridge
and Deacon come face to face!
     *  Don't miss the action when Sally tries to even the score with
Stephanie!
     *  Why is Lorenzo furious with Adam?
     *  Will Macy agree to meet Thorne...one last time?
     *  Bridget confronts Stephanie about her secret.


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See I agree.  I don't think I could ever forgive my mother either or even
see her because her baby would be that constant reminder and a painful one
at that.

Kitty

At 11:52 PM 12/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't know what they are thingking having Briget forgive her either,
>there is no way I could even look at my mother again if she had sex and
>got pregnant to my husband.
>This storyline has got to be one of the worse ever if you ask me.
>JMO, Tina
>
>
><< > That was just too much to see for me, one minute he hates Brooke, and the
> > next he is forgiving her. There is no way I could forgive her if she did
>that
> > to my daughter.
>
>I think it would be different if Bridget hadn't already forgiven her.  Like
>he
>said...if Bridget can forgive her, why shouldn't he? >>
>
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At 11:14 PM 12/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > That was just too much to see for me, one minute he hates Brooke, and the
> > next he is forgiving her. There is no way I could forgive her if she
> did that
> > to my daughter.
>
>I think it would be different if Bridget hadn't already forgiven her.  Like he
>said...if Bridget can forgive her, why shouldn't he?
>
>Debbie W.

I think that is what he was thinking.  That if Bridget was able to move on
so could he.  However, I don't think that Bridget has moved on completely
because she wouldn't cringe about it every time.  Not that she doesn't have
the right to cringe - heck I would, but I don't think I would have forgiven
my mother that fast either if ever.  That is a tough one.

Kitty

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I don't know what they are thingking having Briget forgive her either, there
is no way I could even look at my mother again if she had sex and got
pregnant to my husband.
This storyline has got to be one of the worse ever if you ask me.
JMO, Tina


<< > That was just too much to see for me, one minute he hates Brooke, and the
  > next he is forgiving her. There is no way I could forgive her if she did
that
  > to my daughter.

  I think it would be different if Bridget hadn't already forgiven her.  Like
he
  said...if Bridget can forgive her, why shouldn't he? >>

First Look at Spoilers: Week of 12/30/2002

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     *  Ridge is relieved by the end of a family crisis.
     *  Darla is caught in the middle in Portofino.
     *  Bridget struggles to keep secret Ridge's paternity.
     *  Macy mysteriously disappears.
     *  Stephanie and Sally's argument escalates to a point of no return.
     *  Preparations begin for the big Portofino fashion show.
MORE TO COME...

Source: Scott Novick
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/scott_novick/bb_home.htm


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> That was just too much to see for me, one minute he hates Brooke, and the
> next he is forgiving her. There is no way I could forgive her if she did that
> to my daughter.

I think it would be different if Bridget hadn't already forgiven her.  Like he
said...if Bridget can forgive her, why shouldn't he?

Debbie W.

That was just too much to see for me, one minute he hates Brooke, and the
next he is forgiving her. There is no way I could forgive her if she did that
to my daughter.



<< I just knew that Eric was going to forgive Brooke - he always does!  But
if
  Ridge does find out I don't know if he will and if he does I do not think
  it will be so quickly. >>

I just knew that Eric was going to forgive Brooke - he always does!  But if
Ridge does find out I don't know if he will and if he does I do not think
it will be so quickly.

I also think that Eric is going to be a little upset with Stephanie about
keeping him in the dark.  My question is, is he going to tell Bridget that
he knows now what happened to her?  I wonder how Bridget would feel about?

Any thoughts?

Kitty

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Bold and the Beautiful Recap for Thursday, December 26, 2002

Recap provided by:
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Written by Scott Novick

Eric drops by Ridge's room and finds Bridget (still wearing her robe)
there. Bridget tells him that Ridge just went to Brooke's room for her
opinion on a necklace and invites her dad to wait. Speaking of Brooke, Eric
says, it's clear to him that Ridge seems happier after spending time with
Brooke lately, and he doesn't want anything to interfere with that. He asks
Bridget how she feels about her mom with Ridge, and Bridget diplomatically
answers that she doesn't see anything bad with it. She also admits that
Ridge has his old spark back, and while she agrees with Stephanie that the
competition is part of that, she thinks there's more to it than that. Eric
agrees, so Bridget asks why Stephanie can't see that. Eric reminds her that
Stephanie has never been objective where Brooke is concerned, but Bridget
can't help but recall how it was Stephanie who convinced her that Brooke
had changed and that she should give Brooke another chance. Speaking of
that, Eric reminds Bridget, he never knew what caused the rift between her
and her mom, so he asks what happened. Bridget ducks his questions and says
it is in the past. As Bridget walks out to the balcony, Eric says he's glad
that she and Brooke are working things out, but he would still like to know
what happened. After all, he points out, with her marriage breaking up, she
was experiencing a lot of tension, and mother-daughter relationships can be
tense as well. As he reminds Bridget how tense things were between
Stephanie and Kristen and Felicia, Bridget says it's not the same. Eric
hugs her and tells her that he's sure of one thing: that Brooke loves
Bridget and would never do anything to intentionally hurt her.


In her room at the Splendido, Brooke panics as Ridge calls out for her to
let him in. Go ahead, Deacon tells her, open the door and let lover boy in.
A frantic Brooke tells Deacon that Ridge can't see him here, so Deacon
agrees to step out on the balcony. Once Deacon is out of sight, Brooke
grabs her towel, starts wiping her hair and opens the door. As Ridge asks
what kept her, she says she must have not heard him since she was in the
shower. Ridge says he thought he heard voices, so Brooke lies that it must
have been the radio and asks Ridge what brings him by. He explains that he
wanted her opinion on how some accessories work with one of his outfits for
the show. Before he can even show her anything, Brooke says that she's the
competition and tries to rush him out. Ridge senses that something is wrong
and asks Brooke what's going on. And why is she whispering, he wonders? As
Brooke looks past Ridge at Deacon, poking his head out slightly from the
balcony, she tells Ridge that Hope is sleeping. Ridge hopes he didn't wake
the baby and suggests that maybe he should be going. He asks one more time
if everything is OK, and she assures him she's fine as she leads him to the
door. He and Brooke wish each other luck tomorrow, with Ridge adding with a
smile that Brooke is going to need in as he leaves.

Deacon comes out from hiding, asking where the goodbye kiss was. Brooke
tells him to stop, but Deacon refuses to stop until she is honest with
herself. He wants her to admit that she wants more than friendship from
Ridge, and to admit that deep down, she knows that she's not going to get
it. Brooke says that was in the past, but now she has her pride and her
family back -- and if Deacon cared about her, she wouldn't interfere.
Deacon doesn't see it as interfering, because they had a passion and fire
between them that doesn't happen every day. When you have that, he argues,
you fight to hold onto it, so he can't understand why Brooke is waiting for
a fantasy when she can have him, the real thing. Brooke looks away from
him, but he turns her around and tells her to think about it. He assures
her that he'll wait for her as long as it takes, and once she sees that
he's right, he'll be waiting for her down the hall. With that, he leaves,
and Brooke sits down on the bed, considering what's happening here.

Back in L.A., at Forrester, Rick checks on Amber, who's working on some
sketches. Rick looks at the designs and thinks his parents would be proud
of her, even joking that she could give Ridge and Eric some competition in
Portofino. Amber comments that Eric's collection rocks, so he doesn't need
any help from her. Rick replies that from what he hears, both Eric AND
Ridge have pulled out all the stops. Like father like son, Amber says.
Getting back to Portofino, Amber asks if Rick got a hold of his mom. When
he says she wasn't in her room, Amber wonders if he tried Ridge's room.
Rick tells her not to start that again, but she reminds him that Brooke has
been going location hunting with Ridge a lot: isn't that Eric's job? Maybe
Eric went too, Rick says, reminding Amber how close his parents have been
lately. He tells her about the family dinner he and Bridget had with his
folks a few months ago, where his mom and dad started re-connecting. But
Eric is married to Stephanie, Amber reminds him. Rick says that Brooke
isn't hitting on Eric, any more than she is hitting on Ridge. She's just
reconnecting with them, and he thinks that Brooke has everything under
control. Amber senses that Rick is proud of his mom, and he admits he is,
because of how she's patched things up with Ridge, Bridget and his dad.
When Amber says things were never strained between Brooke and Eric, Rick
reminds her that Brooke now owns 51% of the company Eric founded. He has to
give his dad credit for respecting his mom, even with all that. In fact, he
thinks that respect is the most important part of their relationship. If
they were to lose that, he guesses, it could tear both the family and the
company apart.

Brooke tries to clean up the flowers that Deacon dropped on the floor when
Eric stops by. As Brooke lets him in, Eric starts talking about last minute
preparations for the show, but he quickly changes the subject to Ridge. He
admits that while he came up with the idea for this competition, it's
Brooke that has put the smile back on Ridge's face, and he wants her to
know that he appreciates that. Seeing the sad look on Brooke's face, Eric
asks what's wrong. She tries to say she's fine, but he can tell something's
wrong and asks her to open up to him. Did she fight with Ridge? Brooke says
no, so Eric asks if someone hurt her. No, Brooke says, **HE** didn't do
anything to her. Eric wants to know who HE is, but she again says she's
fine. Eric reminds her that they share two children, so she can open up to
him about anything. Brooke cries that he can't help her, but Eric pleads
with her to let him help. An ashamed Brooke finally says she made a mistake
that, if he knew about it, would change things so that he could never see
her the same way again. Eric insists that he will not judge her, so Brooke
reveals that it has to do with Hope's father. Is Whip here, Eric asks, or
did he call? Brooke tearfully explains that Whip is not the father. He just
said he was to spare her and Hope the scandal of her mistake, she says, but
deep down, he's a good man. And the real father isn't, Eric guesses,
wondering who it could be and what he wants.

Brooke says that the father is just bitter and hurt and doesn't really want
to hurt her. Hearing that, Eric says he's going to see to it that this man
is taken care of, but Brooke admits that the man isn't what really has her
so upset. It's just that she thought she had her life together, and that
things were better for her and Ridge and Bridget. Eric asks what this has
to do with Bridget: Brooke replies that it has EVERYTHING to do with
Bridget. Suddenly, it dawns on Eric: shocked, he pleads with Brooke, "Tell
me that Deacon is not the father of your baby." He then grabs Brooke by the
shoulders and demands that she tell him that Deacon Sharpe isn't Hope's
father!


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Bold and the Beautiful Recap for Wednesday, December 25, 2002

Recap provided by:
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Written by Scott Novick

On Christmas Day, CBS showed classic episodes of all 4 of its soaps. B&B
aired episode #812 from June 18, 1990.

At the Logan home, Brooke tries to rush her brother Storm off before a
visitor she's expecting arrives. Storm is curious who is coming, but Brooke
says it's just a friend -- a woman. Storm gets the hint and turns to leave
-- and as he's leaving, he's surprised to see Caroline standing there!
Storm tries to be cordial, but Brooke gives him a hint, so he heads off,
leaving the women alone. Once they are alone, Brooke apologizes, saying
that she has not told Storm anything about Caroline's problem. Caroline
tells Brooke she knows, because she trusts her. Brooke thinks it is ironic
that Caroline has to trust her, but Caroline doesn't: she and Brooke know
each other's strengths and weaknesses so well that Caroline knows she can
count on Brooke. Brooke wonders how Caroline is handling the news of her
illness. Caroline admits she's scared -- but more for Ridge than herself.
Brooke thinks she means she's worried about how Ridge will react to the
news that Caroline is dying, but Caroline says that she doesn't want Ridge
to know until the end. She wants their last days to be filled with joy, not
grief. The only hard part about that is once she's gone, she knows Ridge
will be crushed with grief -- that is, unless she finds someone else for
him, someone that he loves and trusts. Brooke says that Ridge only loves
and trusts one woman, Caroline. No, Caroline says, there is one other
person. It suddenly dawns on Brooke what Caroline is saying, and she can't
believe it. Yes, Caroline admits -- she's talking about Brooke!

At Spectra, Sally is on the phone making wedding plans and wonders why Macy
seems so glum. She wonders if it had to do with her visit last night with
the Forresters, but Macy doesn't want to talk about it. Sally doesn't let
up and asks if Macy saw Stephanie. Yes, Macy says -- she was friendly, but
preoccupied. That's to be expected with Stephanie's impending divorce,
Sally says: is that what got Macy upset? No, Macy says, it was overhearing
Ridge and Thorne by the pool that made her realize that she and Thorne can
never have a future. They were talking about Spectra and Clarke in less
than flattering terms: given that, what will Thorne do when he finds out
who she is? And what will Stephanie do? Sally says she's heard enough and
heads for the door. She tells Macy that she is going to confront this
problem head on and leaves.

In his apartment, Jake Maclaine is about to leave for a tennis lesson when
there's a knock at the door. He answers and is surprised to see Margo
there! She wants to know why he's in L.A. Is he looking for her? Jake says
he didn't even know she was here, but she doesn't believe it, since she saw
him at Forrester with Felicia. Jake is surprised to learn that Margo works
for Forrester, but she's more interested in how he met Felicia. He explains
that he is a tennis pro, and Ridge hired him to give Stephanie some private
lessons. When he came by the house for that, he met Felicia and they became
friends. He assures Margo that he's not here to bother her -- in fact, had
he known she was here, he would have gone someplace else. But now, seeing
her again... She tells him that she doesn't want anything to do with him,
but Jake says she is all wrong about him!

Sally arrives at the Forrester mansion and finds Stephanie alone. Stephanie
wonders why Sally is here, so Sally explains that she knows what it's like
to lose a husband and just wanted to offer Stephanie a little company.
Stephanie is skeptical but invites Sally in. As they sit down to chat,
Stephanie still wonders what Sally's ulterior motive in coming is. Sally
says she knew Stephanie would need someone to talk to, to tell her the
honest truth -- and since she is already the bad guy, it might as well be
her. Stephanie thanks Sally for the advice but says she is fine. No, Sally
says, she's frightened, frightened of what her identity will be once her
marriage of 30 years ends. She knows how in love with her husband Stephanie
was, how dedicated to her marriage and her family. Now, suddenly, her
husband has abandoned and betrayed her. Sally knows how that feels -- it
hurts tremendously, even for a woman who is strong. That's why she is
offering friendship, so that Stephanie will not turn hard and cold from
this divorce. She tells Stephanie to resist the urge to do this alone,
fight it just as hard as she is fighting against Eric in this divorce. And
if Stephanie needs someone to talk to, she's here. With that, she has said
her piece and turns to leave. As Sally heads for the door, Stephanie thanks
her. Sally then leaves the mansion.

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Bold and the Beautiful Recap for Tuesday December 24 2002

Recap provided by:
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Written by Scott Novick

In the light house in Camogli, Thorne and Macy are kissing. Macy pulls
away, but Thorne doesn't understand when she wants to stop. She says that
they can't do this, that things are moving way too fast! Thorne tells her
to come to his hotel room to tell him about her life here, which makes him
realize how happy her family will be when she gets back to L.A. Macy
regretfully says that she's not going back: she CAN'T! She has a life here,
she explains one as someone who is different from the woman Thorne knew.
That life is real, and she's not about to give it up to Thorne, especially
after what he did to her the last time. Thorne admits he could understand
that she does not trust him after he walked away from her, but he explains
that he was a fool then. He's changed now, however, and he wants the chance
to prove that to her. Macy tells him to forget her, and to promise not to
tell anybody that he saw her. Thorne promises, but he wants her to hear him
out. He knows she can't just jump on the Forrester jet and head home to
L.A. That's because she needs to think, he suspects -- in fact, they both
do. That's why he intends to find a place here in Italy, so they can get to
know each other again. Macy reminds him that she can't be seen with him and
shouldn't even be here with him! But she is, Thorne says, and that can't be
a coincidence that he comes here with his family and finds the woman he
loves, that he wants to spend the rest of his li-- As he says that, Thorne
turns around and sees that Macy is gone! He looks out for her and calls out
her name, but she's nowhere to be found.

In Ridge's hotel room, he is sitting on the couch when Bridget (now wearing
a robe) comes in. Ridge comments that she must be getting brave after the
way she ran out earlier, but Bridget says she's not scared. She just thinks
she's too old for him to tickle that way. Ridge accept that she's all grown
up, but quips that she DID look cute in those PJ's. Bridget seems
embarrassed, so Ridge asks how he's not supposed to notice that his little
sister's a cutie! No wonder she has so many guys drooling over her. Bridget
asks him to stop, so Ridge apologizes for embarrassing her. They then talk
about the kids, guessing how the twins must have been in sugar shock from
the local gelati. When Ridge jokes about how powerful all that energy might
make him, Bridget asks if that's why he accepted Eric's challenge. No,
Ridge says, it's not about power, but respect. Bridget says he and Eric are
already respected, so why do they have to compete. Ridge thinks Eric needs
to prove he's better than him -- but in the end, it isn't winning that's
important, but what you learn from the battle. He compares it to her
marriage with Deacon, where she survived being married to a loser and
ultimately cut him loose. Bridget says things are going too well for this
unpleasant topic and asks if they can talk about something other than
Deacon. Ridge agrees. He just wants to say one last thing: if Deacon ever
causes this family any more trouble, he'll have to deal with Ridge.


In Brooke's room, Brooke orders Deacon to hand Hope to her and leave! After
all, she already told him that she doesn't want to see him ever again! He
asks why she can't give him just 15 minutes to talk after he flew halfway
around the world. Brooke asks what this is about. More money? Deacon
laughs, leading Brooke to ask if he finds this funny. No, he says, he finds
it's pathetic, and he thinks he's an idiot to show up here like some
schoolboy on his first date and expect things to be like old times. Brooke
reminds him that her life has changed now. Her main concern is now Hope.
No, Deacon counters, he main concern -- he only concern, in fact, is RIDGE!
Brooke says her relationship with Ridge is none of his business, but Deacon
reminds her of all she told him about Ridge. Ridge was like an addiction to
her that she could not shake, just like he was addicted to booze. Brooke
says that's not fair, and Deacon agrees: it's not fair to her, or his
daughter! Brooke reminds him of his promise to leave her and Hope alone,
but he can't sit back and watch another Forrester pretty boy raise his kid,
especially since Ridge can never make Brooke happy -- and never will.

Macy arrives back at her apartment and doesn't see Lorenzo there at first.
He explains that he's been waiting for her. As Macy apologizes for running
off earlier, Lorenzo guesses that she has seen Thorne. Yes, she admits. she
did, but she made him promise not to tell anyone that he saw her -- and as
for her, she has no plans to see Thorne again, either. She explains to
Lorenzo how she told Thorne that their life was over, since her life was
here now. She then suggested to Thorne that he just go home and forget
about her. But can she forget about Thorne, Lorenzo asks? Macy nods, and
Lorenzo then takes her in his arms and holds her tightly.

Ridge reminds Bridget that she said things are going well now: did she mean
the fashion show? Among other things, she says, pointing out how she's seen
him with her mother, including the goofy grins on his face after he and
Brooke return from their little "location scouts." Ridge asks if she minds,
and she asks if she should. Well, Ridge admits, he and Brooke have a fast.
But do they have a future, Bridget asks? Ridge says he hasn't even thought
about it, since all he wants now is someone whose company he can enjoy,
without any drama. He has that and doesn't want to interfere with it. He
then shows Bridget some accessories he is considering for the showing and
asks for her opinion. Bridget says that's not really her area of expertise.
That means she won't be much help in his making a choice, Ridge laments --
maybe he'll ask Brooke, since she has a sixth sense for these things.
That's because they've known each other for so long, Bridget says. Ridge
says that he thinks that Brooke probably knows him better than anyone.
Bridget thinks it must be nice to connect to someone that way. Ridge
agrees, pointing out that he and Brooke have been partner and enemies, both
in the trenches together and at each other's throats. But when push comes
to shove, he points out, the thing that matters most is that they've been
there, so he doesn't think there's anything at all that could possibly come
between them now.

Brooke asks how Deacon could dare sneak in and harass her and her child
because he's jealous of Ridge. He tells her that Ridge is not right for
her, because in the end, he will hurt her. He begs her to listen to him and
confesses that since he left L.A., his life has been a mess. When she saw
him in that bar, he thought he had hit rock bottom -- and then she told him
to get lost! He knows he acted like a jerk, but it's only because he cares
about her and the baby. Brooke is sure that Ridge would not hurt her, but
Deacon says he already has, again and again. Brooke can't believe that he
thinks he came her to protect her and asks what if Eric or Stephanie saw
him -- or Bridget? What about Ridge, he asks -- or does he know who Hope's
father is? Deacon doesn't think so, since he doesn't think Ridge would give
her the time of day if he did. Brooke asks if that's a threat, but Deacon
says it's a warning, that Ridge will break her heart. Brooke has had enough
and orders him out, but Deacon says he's not done. He wants her to know
that he doesn't want to ruin her life, or her relationship with Bridget. He
just wants to talk. Brooke says there's nothing to talk about, so he should
leave. Deacon resists, but Brooke tells him that if he ever cared about
her, he'll listen to her and leave. Just then, there's a knock at the door:
it's Ridge, to talk to Brooke. Brooke is stunned and horrified, since
Deacon is still in the room!

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     * Can Bridget cope with the knowledge that Ridge is really Massimo's son?
     * The Portofino challenge begins, pitting Forrester v. Forrester: who
will win in this battle of father and son?
     * Will being in romantic Italy mean anything for Ridge and Brooke?
     * How will Brooke react when a cleaned-up Deacon shows up in Portofino?
     * Thorne continues to hope for a reunion with Macy, but she has built a
new life in Italy with Lorenzo.
     * How can Adam explain keeping his daughter from the people who loved
her most?
     * Can Thorne bring Macy back to Los Angeles, since she has built a life
for herself with Lorenzo?
     * Deacon is determined to stay in Los Angeles and stir up trouble for
Brooke.
     * Stephanie and Massimo remain determined to keep Brooke out of Ridge's
life -- and Massimo's plan to do it involves using Deacon to do his dirty
work!
     * Will Ridge and Brooke have a future once Massimo puts his plan into
action?
     * An old boyfriend of Amber's shows up in Los Angeles, angry at her for
how she dumped him years ago.
     * Amber's old boyfriend blackmails her, threatening to reveal something
from her past if she doesn't pay up. What skeleton does she have in her
closet that can impact her life in L.A.?
     * After Sally suffers a health crisis, Macy is forced to choose between
her past and her present.
     * C.J. gets the biggest shock of his life: will Bridget be there to
support him, or will she be busy with Mark?
     * How will C.J.'s shocking news impact the gang at Spectra?


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Bold and the Beautiful Recap for Monday December 23 2002

Recap provided by:
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Written by Scott Novick

In Bridget's hotel room, she talks with Eric about Thomas. She explains how
Thomas is trying to act like an adult, so he gets offended when she treats
him like a child. Ridge however handles it well, she explains, with
one-on-one talks with Thomas about stuff that Ridge calls a family --.
Council meeting, Eric finishes, explaining that he used to do the same
thing with Ridge. Ridge had a bit of an ego back then and didn't like to be
told what to do, so Eric had these talks to steer Ridge in the right
direction. Now Ridge is doing the same with Thomas, he explains. Bridget
says that Eric is still doing that, coming up with this competition and
trip to get Ridge focused after Taylor died. Well, Eric says, no matter how
old they are, they're still your kids. Except, Bridget thinks to herself,
Ridge ISN'T Eric's son, but Eric will never know that.


Brooke and Ridge arrive at her hotel room. Brooke jokes that Ridge was
probably tiring her out to take care of the competition, but it didn't
work, because she's more excited than ever now. Ridge confesses that he too
is excited and wishes the day wouldn't end, but he has some things to take
care of for the showing. With that, they exchange good-nights, and Ridge
gives Brooke a good night kiss -- just as Stephanie walks by and gets
disgusted at the sight of the kiss.


Brooke goes into her room and checks with the nanny to make sure Hope is
OK. Just then, Stephanie comes to the door, so Brooke tells the nanny she
can go. Once she is gone, Brooke sees the look on Stephanie's face and asks
what's wrong, reminding her that she didn't have to cause a scene in front
of the nanny. Stephanie is stunned that Brooke is now concerned about
propriety after she just cavorted all over Portofino with Ridge, making a
fool of herself. This is just what she predicted would happen, and she
thinks Brooke is in denial about it. Brooke wants to know what's wrong with
Stephanie and why she thinks she is so perfect that she has all the
answers. Brooke says she knows she doesn't have all the answers -- but what
she does know is that Ridge called her his lifeline, so she has no
intention of backing away from him when he needs her!


Eric asks Bridget is something is wrong, but she covers by asking why he
didn't go on the location scout with Brooke and Ridge. Just as Eric
explains that he thought they needed some time together, Ridge walks in and
starts joking about catching his dad spying in the enemy camp. Eric says
that he's just visiting his daughter, but Ridge pretends to see through
that ruse. Eric playfully says that Bridget called him because she is
worried about how he [Ridge] will feel once he loses this competition --
and he is sure that Ridge will in fact lose. Bridget tells her dad not to
put her in the middle since, no matter who wins, the important thing is
that they are all acting like a family again. Ridge asks where she gets
this stuff, and Eric quips that she must be hanging out with the wrong
crowd. Calling both her dad and Ridge impossible, Bridget says she is going
to bed and bids them good night. Once she is gone, Ridge jokes that now
it's time for Eric to get out. Eric makes a quip about how terrible he is:
Ridge agrees and sends his dad on his way.


Later, Bridget, wearing some skimpy PJ's, slips into the room to get
something to eat. Ridge finds her there and surprises her, saying that he
was just enjoying the view. Ridge remarks how even with all the food she
eats, she still fits well in her PJ's. From her reaction, you can see that
Bridget is uncomfortable with these remarks, and with her brother watching
her that way. She tells him to knock it off. Sure, he says, indicating for
her to go ahead and help herself to some candy -- but each times she
reaches for the candy, Ridge reaches over to tickle her! Bridget pulls
back, telling Ridge to please stop. At first, he thinks she is playing and
continues, but then he sees she's serious and asks what's wrong. Nothing's
wrong, she says: it's just that the tickling is inappropriate. Ridge
reminds her that he's been tickling her all her life. Bridget doesn't quite
know what to say. Ridge tells her to go to bed; as she turns to go, Ridge
taps her on the butt. "I suppose that's out, too?" he asks. Yes, Bridget
says, going to bed and leaving a very confused Ridge behind.


In Camogli, Thorne and Macy are now inside the light house, which is lit by
candles. Thorne tells Macy that he will stay here until he dies if he must,
since he can't accept losing her again. Macy says he has to, since lives,
like her dad's, are at stake. Thorne points out that even if Adam has to
hide out, Macy can still come home. This is home, Macy says, telling Thorne
that they need to sat good-bye. Thorne however can't do that, vowing to
follow Macy everywhere for the rest of her life if she leaves. Macy says
letting him see her was a mistake: even if it was, Thorne counters, there
is no turning back, and he senses that Macy feels it too. Macy says this is
his excitement and relief talking and reminds him how much is at stake.
It's more than just her dad, she explains: there is also he own long, hard
struggle to get sober and healthy. But she made it through on her own,
Thorne says. No, she says: she had help from her father, and also from a
special man who was like a rock to her, a man who she owes her life to.
Thorne asks if she loves this man, but Macy doesn't want to have this
conversation. She is not about to compare her feelings for this man to her
feelings for Thorne. That implies she still has feelings for him, Thorne
points out. Yes she does, Macy says, but that doesn't matter, because she
can't trust him. Thorne admits that his relationship with Brooke was a
mistake and pleads with her to believe that he has changed from that.
Please forgive him and give him another chance, he begs. Macy tells him not
to say this to her, but Thorne says his biggest regret is that he thought
he'd never be able to say them. Now that he can, she's going to hear it.
Macy says she doesn't want to. Thorne asks why: because she doesn't believe
him? Or because she does? He pleads with her to believe that he knows what
a mistake he made and to trust her, because he loves her. With that, Thorne
starts kissing her, and Macy kisses him back.


Hope starts crying, so Brooke goes to hold her. She tells Stephanie to
leave them alone -- or better yet, tell Ridge how she's is victimizing him,
so he can laugh in Stephanie's face when she does! Stephanie bets Brooke is
right about that, because Ridge doesn't know what Brooke is capable of --
but she does, and Hope is proof of it! Brooke tells Stephanie to stop
living in the past, holding Deacon over her head for the rest of her life.
The fact is that Deacon has moved on and she and Bridget are working things
out, so she suggests Stephanie do the same. Stephanie warns Brooke that
history repeats itself if she doesn't learn something, but Brooke says she
has. Stephanie however doesn't see it and thinks Brooke is heading for
disaster for everyone, including Hope. Brooke tells Stephanie to leave Hope
out of this and thinks this all because Stephanie again thinks she's not
good enough for Ridge. Stephanie thinks that comment just proves how Brooke
hasn't changed a bit, but Brooke thinks nothing she can do would convince
Stephanie anyway. Ridge now, she intends to be there for Ridge if he needs
her, and she's not going to let Stephanie or anyone stop her. She then
orders Stephanie to just get out now, before she calls security! With that,
Stephanie leaves.


Brooke goes to take a shower. When she comes back into the room, wearing a
robe and drying her hair, she spots a bouquet of flowers without a card.
She guesses they are from Ridge and calls to thank him for sending those at
just the right time. Ridge however says he didn't send them. When Brooke
says there was no card, Ridge wonders if Brooke has a secret admirer. More
likely, Brooke says, it was the hotel. Not wanting to keep Ridge, they bid
each other good night. After she hangs up the phone, she smells the flowers
and walks over to check on Hope, and she's shocked when she sees Hope isn't
in her crib! A frantic Brooke cries out for her baby -- and just then,
Deacon appears, holding Hope in his arms. He says, "Hey, baby. Ah, man --
you look great." Brooke has a horrified look on her face as Deacon asks if
he scared her.

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