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#30 From: ktoolsie@...
Date: Wed Mar 14, 2001 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: Reception
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Tom,

I'm only a couple miles away from you, although I am using a Dish
6000 as my HDTV receiver. My current set-up comprises a small flat
UHF only antenna and a much larger antenna for VHF and FM reception.
The outputs from these 2 antennas lead into a mas-mounted, high-gain,
low-noise pre-amp. My problem was that this resulted in excessive
gain, causing overloading of my receiever. I split the signal into
4 outputs to feed the rest of my house, prior to feeding it to the
Dish 6000, but had to add a further 7db of reduction to get relatively
high (80% to 90%) readings without drop-outs. I previously tried an
indoor antenna without amplification, and a small Winegard GS2000
"stealth" antenna, both with and without amplification. My take is
that these antennas are essentialy useless. I would strongly
recommend that you move to a more conventional antenna type.
I have mine mounted to a 10 ft pole (actually two 5ft sections
combined) in my back-yard. The UHF antenna can be had for about
$40.

I've only had this set up properly in the last couple of days and
have had steady signal strength since then. I'll have to wait until
it gets really windy again, before I can definitely say that I'm
immune to wind-caused multiplexing drop-outs.

Kurt

--- In ahdtv@y..., "Barry, Tom" <tombarry@m...> wrote:
> I have 3 tall pine trees in the front of the house, which faces
east, and am
> using an amplified indoor antenna in a back room.  On Avsforum John
Stephens
> has suggested mounting an antenna on the roof to solve dynamic
multipath,
> but I have not yet come to grips with doing that.
>
> I can sometimes get all 3 uhf stations without moving the antenna,
but WSB
> is the hardest to get.  If they are broadcasting at their max
wattage it
> should easier to receive than CBS.
>
> I tried an additional 25 db of amplification which boosted the meter
> readings from 45-55 to 70-90 for all stations.  I also tried the RS
double
> bow tie.  Nothing fixed the wind problem.  And WSB was still hard to
get.
> If it is windy for the Masters or Final Four I guess I'll try a
bigger
> antenna in the attic or out a window.  Otherwise I do have other
things to
> do besides watching HDTV.
>
> Tom

#29 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Tue Mar 13, 2001 4:30 am
Subject: Re: Hello Everyone
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CB->Mike:

I've added your data as #13 and someone else's
as #12 to the "Database Map.gif" file.  I listed
you both as A.  Interesting, since you are both
inside the perimeter.  This picture is becoming
clearer.

We need more data people.

> I am glad that there is a place for Atlantians to go as a HDTV
> resource.  I am still new to HD, but I am loving it.  I have filled
> out my info on your database.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

#28 From: mkwillia@...
Date: Mon Mar 12, 2001 10:01 pm
Subject: Hello Everyone
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I am glad that there is a place for Atlantians to go as a HDTV
resource.  I am still new to HD, but I am loving it.  I have filled
out my info on your database.

Thanks,
Mike

#27 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Sat Mar 10, 2001 3:53 am
Subject: Map of database attached
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CB->ahdtv:
 
I have completed and attached a Streets 2000
map which incorporates condensed data from the
OTA Reception.  I have summarized the reception
quality information into A,B,C,D and F based on my
interpretation of the claims.  I used pushpins with the
letter on them.  I added a sequence number to the
database entries and put that in the call-out boxes
for the pushpins so you can cross reference the
geographical and analytical data.
 
Turns out the one person right next to the broadcasters,
and only that one person, reports what I called "A".
Almost everyone else had what I called "B".  I think it
is very positive, because at a glance you can tell that
"B" level reception is available all over town, including
the distant suburban areas.
 
Hopefully the utility of this information will shame the
non-reporters into supplying their information either by
filling out the database or sending it to me.  If you
know others with data to be supplied, like friends who
don't surf for example, please consider supplying their
information for the database.
 

#26 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Fri Mar 9, 2001 1:42 am
Subject: Daily Digest Option on ahdtv
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I counted six messages on the list today,
which is unusual.  I just want to point
out that you can have change your subscription
to Daily Digest at the web site, so that you
get all of the messages for a day in a single
e-mail.  You can also switch off the e-mail
entirely and just review the postings at the
web site.

#25 From: "Barry, Tom" <tombarry@...>
Date: Thu Mar 8, 2001 6:31 pm
Subject: Reception
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I have 3 tall pine trees in the front of the house, which faces east, and am
using an amplified indoor antenna in a back room.  On Avsforum John Stephens
has suggested mounting an antenna on the roof to solve dynamic multipath,
but I have not yet come to grips with doing that.

I can sometimes get all 3 uhf stations without moving the antenna, but WSB
is the hardest to get.  If they are broadcasting at their max wattage it
should easier to receive than CBS.

I tried an additional 25 db of amplification which boosted the meter
readings from 45-55 to 70-90 for all stations.  I also tried the RS double
bow tie.  Nothing fixed the wind problem.  And WSB was still hard to get.
If it is windy for the Masters or Final Four I guess I'll try a bigger
antenna in the attic or out a window.  Otherwise I do have other things to
do besides watching HDTV.

Tom

#24 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Thu Mar 8, 2001 5:52 pm
Subject: AVSForum Thread on Atlanta Reception
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There is an interesting thread on the
AVSForum.  If you haven't seen it you
may want to read up on it.  The topic
is:

  Atlanta area Sony SAT-HD100 owners PLEASE READ!

The content is a little more general than the
topic implies.  The URL is:

   http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/012244.html

#23 From: CB Genrich <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Thu Mar 8, 2001 5:01 pm
Subject: RE: Great map
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RayC mailed me the following regarding the map.
I used the lat-lon from someplace on the internet
for those locations and Streets 2000 to mark them.
I plan to update it and make one for the database
this weekend.

> CB,
> There's an error on your map. WSB is on their own tower on the
> Freedom Parkway.  Between Blvd and the Carter center.  On your map,
> it is the yellow road going east from the Connector. Just before the
> straight diagonal section of the road curves north.
> WUPA is supposed to be on the air "late spring" atop the new tower
> located at I-20 and Chester Ave. (a tiny street about 2 mi east of
> the Connector. Hope this helps
> RayC

Also, I got the wattage from the same place.  I
think it represents the legal maximum for the
station, but they may be broadcasting at less?
If they vary power output from time to time, it
will be nearly impossible to get a reliable notion
of reception parameters around town.



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#22 From: Jeff Williamson <jwilliamson@...>
Date: Thu Mar 8, 2001 4:32 pm
Subject: RE: Great map
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Barry,

I have a little better signal strength than you do and my DTC 100 did not
have any problems with wind. I am generally in the high 80's to low 90's and
using CM Stealth mounted on my DTV dish. I also have a HD100 that will not
get CBS, it only stays on for 1-2 seconds, NBC drops out every 5-10 seconds.
I have not hooked it back up since the wind died down but may try that
tonight. By the way signal strength on both the stations is in the high 90's
on the HD100.


Jeff

  -----Original Message-----
From:  Barry, Tom [mailto:tombarry@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 10:12 AM
To: 'ahdtv@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ahdtv] Great map

The map looks great and I am looking forward to push pins for each of us.  I
like knowing the wattage.

My reception is suffering from dynamic multipath.  I am making the
assumption that it was the high wind this past week that has been causing me
problems.  Signal strength would drop from 70 to 0 and back constantly,
making viewing impossible.  Last night was no problem;  I enjoyed the movie
and Leno with no drop outs.  Does any one else have weather related
reception problems?

Tom

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#21 From: "Chris Roussel" <croussel@...>
Date: Thu Mar 8, 2001 4:06 pm
Subject: Re: Great map
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I've got the same problem you have.

The CBS Monday night lineup was unwatchable due to the high winds,
but last night, all four OTA channels were rock solid.

I'm not sure if wind in itself is the problem, or the wind moving
all the very tall old growth pines that surround my house.

It would be interesting to hear from someone who lives in a clear-cut
subdivision and see what his experience was.

I'm running at 120in Radio Shack YAGI in the attic with no preamp
direct to my DTC100.  I've ordered a CM7777 preamp to see if that
helps.


"Barry, Tom" wrote:
>
> The map looks great and I am looking forward to push pins for each of us.  I
> like knowing the wattage.
>
> My reception is suffering from dynamic multipath.  I am making the
> assumption that it was the high wind this past week that has been causing me
> problems.  Signal strength would drop from 70 to 0 and back constantly,
> making viewing impossible.  Last night was no problem;  I enjoyed the movie
> and Leno with no drop outs.  Does any one else have weather related
> reception problems?
>
> Tom
>
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#20 From: "Barry, Tom" <tombarry@...>
Date: Thu Mar 8, 2001 4:11 pm
Subject: Great map
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The map looks great and I am looking forward to push pins for each of us.  I
like knowing the wattage.

My reception is suffering from dynamic multipath.  I am making the
assumption that it was the high wind this past week that has been causing me
problems.  Signal strength would drop from 70 to 0 and back constantly,
making viewing impossible.  Last night was no problem;  I enjoyed the movie
and Leno with no drop outs.  Does any one else have weather related
reception problems?

Tom

#19 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Thu Mar 8, 2001 12:26 am
Subject: Re: Hello
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Ray, and anyone else who's joined recently:
 
Welcome.
 
Please visit the "OTA Reception" database
or send me mail with the following information so
that I may update the database with your info.
 
Did you get the map of the DTV broadcast
antennas?  I want to do another with push-pins
for each respondent.
 
Nearest Large Intersection:
Set-top box (STB):
Antenna Type & Size:
General OTA DTV Reception:
10 WXIA-DT/NBC:
19 WGCL-DT/CBS:
27 WAGA-DT/FOX:
39 WSB-DT/ABC:
Your Name or ID:

 

#18 From: rccrain@...
Date: Wed Mar 7, 2001 11:22 pm
Subject: Hello
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Just a note to say hello.  I just joined your group and look forward
to hearing from all you other HDTV nuts.  I live in Conyers and have
had a DTC-100 with satellite and OTA reception for 10 months now.
Overall, at least in the last 2-3 months, I have gotten pretty decent
signals from all 4 digital channels.  I love my HDTV, I just wish
there were MORE PROGRAMMING!

Good Luck Everybody,
Ray

#17 From: "Chris Roussel" <croussel@...>
Date: Tue Mar 6, 2001 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: I'll be happy to add your data to the database
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You might want to try attenuating, as you may have too much signal.
Concentrate on getting your UHF OTA Analog Channels to look good
first, then DTV reception should also be good.

RS has a variable attenuator that you can try and bring it back
if it doesn't help.  I've been to the RadioShack.Com store at
Buford Hwy and 285, and they have em.



> Josh Bailey wrote:
>
> Nearest Intersection: Roswell Rd and West Weiuca
> STB: DTC-100 & Integrated tuner in Sony KWP-65HD1
> OTA: 70+ inch YAGI from Home Depot (the biggest one they had) about 15' above
roof line
> Reception Results: In general its OK
>
>
> DTC-100: All stations: 70 to 80 few drop outs temperature & weather make a
difference
> Integrated ATSC tuner: no signal meter. Lots of drop outs on various channels
depending upon antenna direction
>
> Comments: I'm only 6 or 7 miles from the transmitters, why am I only getting
70 -80 signal strength. I've got about 100' of RG-6 from the OTA to the STB w/ 3
or 4 barrel
> connectors in the link. I'm thinking about rerunning from scratch, but that's
alot of work now that I've finished out the basement.
>
> P.S. anyone know where I can get a Sony SAT-HD100 around here?
>
>
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: CB Genrich [mailto:cbgenrich@...]
>      Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:39 PM
>      To: ahdtv@yahoogroups.com
>      Subject: [ahdtv] I'll be happy to add your data to the database
>
>      CB->ahdtv:
>
>      As I was typing my lengthy plea last
>      evening, it occurred to me that some
>      people might rather e-mail their data
>      than go to some web site and enter it.
>
>      So I'd like to offer to fill in any
>      data e-mailed to me.  If you will reply
>      to this mail, or forward it to me (after
>      you fill out the fields below of course)
>      I will put it in the database.
>
>        mailto:cbgenrich@...
>
>      Here are the fields, only a short entry
>      for each field will fit is needed.
>
>      P.S. - Does everybody know that you can
>      reply to the group by replying to these
>      messages, or sending mail to:
>
>         mailto:ahdtv@yahoogroups.com
>
>      -----------------------------------------
>
>      Nearest Large Intersection:
>      Set-top box (STB):
>      Antenna Type & Size:
>      General OTA DTV Reception:
>      10 WXIA-DT/NBC:
>      19 WGCL-DT/CBS:
>      27 WAGA-DT/FOX:
>      39 WSB-DT/ABC:
>      Your Name or ID:
>
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#16 From: "Josh Bailey" <jlayer3@...>
Date: Tue Mar 6, 2001 5:11 pm
Subject: RE: I'll be happy to add your data to the database
jlayer3@...
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Nearest Intersection: Roswell Rd and West Weiuca
STB: DTC-100 & Integrated tuner in Sony KWP-65HD1
OTA: 70+ inch YAGI from Home Depot (the biggest one they had) about 15' above roof line
Reception Results: In general its OK
 
 
DTC-100: All stations: 70 to 80 few drop outs temperature & weather make a difference
Integrated ATSC tuner: no signal meter. Lots of drop outs on various channels depending upon antenna direction
 
Comments: I'm only 6 or 7 miles from the transmitters, why am I only getting 70 -80 signal strength. I've got about 100' of RG-6 from the OTA to the STB w/ 3 or 4 barrel connectors in the link. I'm thinking about rerunning from scratch, but that's alot of work now that I've finished out the basement.
 
P.S. anyone know where I can get a Sony SAT-HD100 around here?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: CB Genrich [mailto:cbgenrich@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:39 PM
To: ahdtv@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ahdtv] I'll be happy to add your data to the database

CB->ahdtv:

As I was typing my lengthy plea last
evening, it occurred to me that some
people might rather e-mail their data
than go to some web site and enter it.

So I'd like to offer to fill in any
data e-mailed to me.  If you will reply
to this mail, or forward it to me (after
you fill out the fields below of course)
I will put it in the database.

  mailto:cbgenrich@...

Here are the fields, only a short entry
for each field will fit is needed.

P.S. - Does everybody know that you can
reply to the group by replying to these
messages, or sending mail to:

   mailto:ahdtv@yahoogroups.com

-----------------------------------------

Nearest Large Intersection:
Set-top box (STB):
Antenna Type & Size:
General OTA DTV Reception:
10 WXIA-DT/NBC:
19 WGCL-DT/CBS:
27 WAGA-DT/FOX:
39 WSB-DT/ABC:
Your Name or ID:





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#15 From: "Terry Knight" <terryk2@...>
Date: Tue Mar 6, 2001 3:25 pm
Subject: DTV
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Nearest Large Intersection: Ga Hwy 20 & I-575
Set-top box (STB): Dish 6000 (previously used Samsung)
Antenna Type & Size: Radio Shack 80" UHF/VHF Attic Mounted
General OTA DTV Reception: Good   
10 WXIA-DT/NBC: Good
19 WGCL-DT/CBS: Good
27 WAGA-DT/FOX: Good
39 WSB-DT/ABC: Good
Your Name or ID: Terry Knight
(If Interested have a new Radio Shack UHF/VHF antenna. Don't recall model number but it was the largest one they had. Cost $129 - sell for $50)

#14 From: <ahdtv@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun Mar 4, 2001 5:02 am
Subject: New file uploaded to ahdtv
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ahdtv
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#13 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Sun Mar 4, 2001 3:39 am
Subject: I'll be happy to add your data to the database
cbgenrich@...
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CB->ahdtv:

As I was typing my lengthy plea last
evening, it occurred to me that some
people might rather e-mail their data
than go to some web site and enter it.

So I'd like to offer to fill in any
data e-mailed to me.  If you will reply
to this mail, or forward it to me (after
you fill out the fields below of course)
I will put it in the database.

   mailto:cbgenrich@...

Here are the fields, only a short entry
for each field will fit is needed.

P.S. - Does everybody know that you can
reply to the group by replying to these
messages, or sending mail to:

    mailto:ahdtv@yahoogroups.com

-----------------------------------------

Nearest Large Intersection:
Set-top box (STB):
Antenna Type & Size:
General OTA DTV Reception:
10 WXIA-DT/NBC:
19 WGCL-DT/CBS:
27 WAGA-DT/FOX:
39 WSB-DT/ABC:
Your Name or ID:

#12 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Sat Mar 3, 2001 4:12 am
Subject: Still in angst over antenna issues
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CB->ahdtv:
 
I have my 53" HD ready Hitachi.
 
I have ordered my Samsung SIR-T150 DTV tuner.
 
I have a Radio Shack double bow-tie and also a
Radio Shack round thing Dave recommended.  I
am planning to put the amplified at the pole unit
on the rooftop soon (weather permitting).
 
Still, I can't help fretting over whether it will be
adequate.
 
I've wagged it around inside the house and I've
waved it around outside a window.  I don't have
my DTV tuner, so I don't really know what to make
of the analog reception anyhow.  I wonder if I will
have to get more antenna later.  And I have 45 deg.
pitch roof, and don't look forward to going up there
many times.  I'd hate to eat the $100 I paid for the
amplified round thing if in the end it isn't satisfactory.
 
Ultimately, it was for me and others that I started
this Yahoo Group.  To get the skinny on things in
the Atlanta area.  If I hadn't heard from many of
you already, I would really be fretting about this
(and probably not moving forward with my own
setup).
 
I wish everyone in Atlanta with OTA DTV would
please go to the associated web site and enter
some information about their location, equipment
and reception.  There is a database, which is
really simple to fill out, and I really feel that people
will benefit from having that reference.
 
I read postings all the time from people wishing
someone would do something to promote HDTV.
One thing we can do is promote it locally, and
let people know that it is doable, it has been
done, and we've got some numbers to prove it.
 
Please visit the website and enter your information.
Visit again later to see what others have added.
 
 
 

#11 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Wed Feb 28, 2001 2:33 am
Subject: Anyone want a Samsung SIR-T150 DTV set-top tuner?
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CB->ahdtv:
 
Today I saw Tom's Samsung SIR-T150 at his home.
 
Tomorrow I plan to special order one from Hi-Fi Buys.
 
I have spoken with someone at corporate in Atlanta,
and he will match the JandR.com price of $649,
although he said he would have to charge me sales
tax, which is fine.
 
The box is purely a DTV terrestrial over-the-air tuner.
No satelite nothing.  No cable nothing.  Just what I
wanted.   Connect an antenna on one side (Tom had
nice looking rabbit ears on top of his TV) and an HD
ready unit on the other side (component and rgb).
 
If anyone would like to also order one, I would be
happy to facilitate that.  I would like to think we
could have a minor role in influencing Hi-Fi Buys
to live up to their HDTV hype in the area of OTA
DTV.  Mostly, I like the unit and I'm ready to move.
 
Many thanks to Tom for showing that to me.
 
To learn more visit www.samsungusa.com and
search on SIRT150.  Or read the great review
that was done on the box and is readily available
online.
 

#10 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Sun Feb 25, 2001 4:09 am
Subject: Re: Re: I guess I'm another local videophile now
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I just bought one like Dave's at Radio Shack.
Then I was at Home Depot, and they had
an RCA unit which looks exactly the same,
but I like the mounting it came with, so will
put this up tomorrow (rain?).
 
Preliminary results indoors after 5 minutes
of moving it around: not that positive.  I'll
let you know how it works out.  BTW, I only
have analog VHF/UHF for the time being.
----- Original Message -----
From: dmilam@...
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 9:14 AM
Subject: [ahdtv] Re: I guess I'm another local videophile now

I live near I-575 and Bells Ferry. I was able to use a $20 amplified
indoor antenna to get the stations, but I had to keep adjusting it
anytime I wanted to change stations. So I switched to an amplified
omnidirectional in my attic. So far its been an okay compromise
between getting all the channels and the channels staying locked in
most of the time. My signal levels will fluctuate and drop down to 0
or 40% sometimes and I'll lose picture and sound. But this only
happens about 1 or 2 times an hour.  I also have local air traffic
going into and out of McCollum airfield that goes directly over my
neighborhood occasionally.  That may be one of the things messing up
my signal.

Dave

--- In ahdtv@y..., "Tom Barry" <tombarry@m...> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Where do you live?  Here in East Cobb I'm having mostly success
with a $30
> indoor antenna.  I've only had my stb a week, so maybe I should
know better.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmilam@m... [mailto:dmilam@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:47 PM
> To: ahdtv@y...
> Subject: [ahdtv] Re: I guess I'm another local videophile now
>
>
> The antenna is model 15-1624 from Radio Shack.
> It lists for $99.99
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> --- In ahdtv@y..., "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@y...> wrote:
> > CB->ahdtv:
> >
> > I'm on my way to being a videophile, if not
> > already.  Got my 53" Hitachi HDTV ready
> > unit delivered.  Yipee.
> >
> > Kindof saturated (the color settings and my
> > brain) at the moment, but it's fun.
> >
> > I've got to admit I've become more than a
> > little frustrated at the idea of getting a set-
> > top box and OTA HDTV.  Maybe after I get
> > used to this, I'll get back on that trail.
> >
> > For now, I think I want to try out that round
> > omni-directional antenna that dmilam has.
> > Just to start with analog OTA, and go from
> > there.
> >
> > Exactly what model was that from where?
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#9 From: dmilam@...
Date: Sat Feb 24, 2001 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: I guess I'm another local videophile now
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I live near I-575 and Bells Ferry. I was able to use a $20 amplified
indoor antenna to get the stations, but I had to keep adjusting it
anytime I wanted to change stations. So I switched to an amplified
omnidirectional in my attic. So far its been an okay compromise
between getting all the channels and the channels staying locked in
most of the time. My signal levels will fluctuate and drop down to 0
or 40% sometimes and I'll lose picture and sound. But this only
happens about 1 or 2 times an hour.  I also have local air traffic
going into and out of McCollum airfield that goes directly over my
neighborhood occasionally.  That may be one of the things messing up
my signal.

Dave

--- In ahdtv@y..., "Tom Barry" <tombarry@m...> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Where do you live?  Here in East Cobb I'm having mostly success
with a $30
> indoor antenna.  I've only had my stb a week, so maybe I should
know better.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmilam@m... [mailto:dmilam@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:47 PM
> To: ahdtv@y...
> Subject: [ahdtv] Re: I guess I'm another local videophile now
>
>
> The antenna is model 15-1624 from Radio Shack.
> It lists for $99.99
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> --- In ahdtv@y..., "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@y...> wrote:
> > CB->ahdtv:
> >
> > I'm on my way to being a videophile, if not
> > already.  Got my 53" Hitachi HDTV ready
> > unit delivered.  Yipee.
> >
> > Kindof saturated (the color settings and my
> > brain) at the moment, but it's fun.
> >
> > I've got to admit I've become more than a
> > little frustrated at the idea of getting a set-
> > top box and OTA HDTV.  Maybe after I get
> > used to this, I'll get back on that trail.
> >
> > For now, I think I want to try out that round
> > omni-directional antenna that dmilam has.
> > Just to start with analog OTA, and go from
> > there.
> >
> > Exactly what model was that from where?
>
>
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#8 From: "Tom Barry" <tombarry@...>
Date: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:18 am
Subject: RE: Re: I guess I'm another local videophile now
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Dave,

Where do you live?  Here in East Cobb I'm having mostly success with a $30
indoor antenna.  I've only had my stb a week, so maybe I should know better.

Tom

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To: ahdtv@yahoogroups.com
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The antenna is model 15-1624 from Radio Shack.
It lists for $99.99

Dave



--- In ahdtv@y..., "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@y...> wrote:
> CB->ahdtv:
>
> I'm on my way to being a videophile, if not
> already.  Got my 53" Hitachi HDTV ready
> unit delivered.  Yipee.
>
> Kindof saturated (the color settings and my
> brain) at the moment, but it's fun.
>
> I've got to admit I've become more than a
> little frustrated at the idea of getting a set-
> top box and OTA HDTV.  Maybe after I get
> used to this, I'll get back on that trail.
>
> For now, I think I want to try out that round
> omni-directional antenna that dmilam has.
> Just to start with analog OTA, and go from
> there.
>
> Exactly what model was that from where?



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#7 From: dmilam@...
Date: Fri Feb 23, 2001 1:46 am
Subject: Re: I guess I'm another local videophile now
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The antenna is model 15-1624 from Radio Shack.
It lists for $99.99

Dave



--- In ahdtv@y..., "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@y...> wrote:
> CB->ahdtv:
>
> I'm on my way to being a videophile, if not
> already.  Got my 53" Hitachi HDTV ready
> unit delivered.  Yipee.
>
> Kindof saturated (the color settings and my
> brain) at the moment, but it's fun.
>
> I've got to admit I've become more than a
> little frustrated at the idea of getting a set-
> top box and OTA HDTV.  Maybe after I get
> used to this, I'll get back on that trail.
>
> For now, I think I want to try out that round
> omni-directional antenna that dmilam has.
> Just to start with analog OTA, and go from
> there.
>
> Exactly what model was that from where?

#6 From: CB Genrich <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Thu Feb 22, 2001 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: I guess I'm another local videophile now
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CB->ahdtv:

> So CB, where'd you get your TV?
> What'd you pay for it?
> What do you think so far?

I work at Hitachi Telecom, and bought
it through the employee purchase program.

It's 53" 16:9 format, and I'm glad I
didn't get the 61" I was trying to
get.  After waiting 60 days for one
to become availabe through the program,
I said I would take which ever came up
first.  We don't need anything bigger.

It cost me $2500 including sales tax and
shipping.  I think I saved about $1000
using the program, but had to wait about
100 days to get it.

As expected, it is like a magnifying
glass on signal flaws.  I'm using AT&T
digital cable as before, which is only
digital above channel 100 or some such,
and we don't watch those higher channels.

I don't have a 5.1 setup, but the TV
does support it through its own center,
a subwoofer out, digital audio in, stereo
out to a receiver.  I will try that out
this weekend.  I've got a lot of rearranging
to do.

I'm still gaining experience with the
color/contrast/brightness options.  It
has a room light sensor with can help
do some things automatically, but I'm
not sure exactly how that all relates
together.

I'll be looking into OTA signals once
I get settled in.

You didn't mention where you live, with
the hookup outdoors.  I live in Tucker,
and expect strong but somewhat directional
signals.  We'll see.  It's been good to
hear from locals, to get a stronger idea
who gets what where with what equipment.
There's a simple database for this group
where people can enter this information
once and for all without having to e-mail
it to every newbie that comes along like
myself.  Not much data there now, and I'd
be interested in comments on what columns
should be included.

I'll tell more as I get hooked up.  If
someone wants to come by and give their
opinion on settings, let me know.


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#5 From: "Mark Garofalo" <markgarofalo@...>
Date: Thu Feb 22, 2001 11:24 am
Subject: Re: I guess I'm another local videophile now
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I'm still waiting to get an HDTV, but I do have HDTV reception off of my DTC-100 going to my older Sony XBR250.  If I could only have waited a year to buy that TV :).  I'm using a silver stealth antenna loosely mounted outside on the balcony of my apartment, and get really intermittent TV.  I managed to get all of the stations above 70 strength, but some of them cut in and out.  Does anyone have any good experience with a small/indoor antenna?  I'd be interested to see if anyone's getting ALL of the locals with an indoor.  I know I had to move my silver stealth outside to even hope to get all of them.  Everywhere inside got 2 or 3 out of the 4. 
 
So CB, where'd you get your TV?  What'd you pay for it?  What do you think so far?
 
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To: ahdtv@yahoogroups.com <ahdtv@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:08 PM
Subject: [ahdtv] I guess I'm another local videophile now

CB->ahdtv:
 
I'm on my way to being a videophile, if not
already.  Got my 53" Hitachi HDTV ready
unit delivered.  Yipee.
 
Kindof saturated (the color settings and my
brain) at the moment, but it's fun.
 
I've got to admit I've become more than a
little frustrated at the idea of getting a set-
top box and OTA HDTV.  Maybe after I get
used to this, I'll get back on that trail.
 
For now, I think I want to try out that round
omni-directional antenna that dmilam has.
Just to start with analog OTA, and go from
there.
 
Exactly what model was that from where?
 


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#4 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Thu Feb 22, 2001 3:59 am
Subject: I guess I'm another local videophile now
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CB->ahdtv:
 
I'm on my way to being a videophile, if not
already.  Got my 53" Hitachi HDTV ready
unit delivered.  Yipee.
 
Kindof saturated (the color settings and my
brain) at the moment, but it's fun.
 
I've got to admit I've become more than a
little frustrated at the idea of getting a set-
top box and OTA HDTV.  Maybe after I get
used to this, I'll get back on that trail.
 
For now, I think I want to try out that round
omni-directional antenna that dmilam has.
Just to start with analog OTA, and go from
there.
 
Exactly what model was that from where?
 

#3 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Sun Feb 18, 2001 12:58 am
Subject: Possible get together
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CB->ahdtv:

I would like to meet with some of
the locals who've had (varying)
success at recieving OTA.  It sounds
fun to get together and tell horror
stories about ill-informed sales
people, good and bad broadcasters
and reception, etc.

Scanning people's locations, it
seems Perimeter area is centrally
located, as is often the case for
this type of thing.  That's what
I thought, anyhow.

Alternatively, I would suggest we
meet somewhere near someone's
system, if they might be interested
in showing and telling, for example.

Timeframe-wise, I was thinking
that Saturday morning, maybe for
breakfast, would be good.  It's
an unusual time to meet, so less
likely to be difficult to schedule?

Alternatively, assuming there are
only a few of us into this at any
particular location, we might plan
to schedule when several things are
on several channels, just to be able
to compare features, reception, etc.,
which implies some prime time?

First schedule conflict: My kids are
in a joint custody situation, so half
of all possible times are already
eliminated for me.  Sorry.  Mondays
and Tuesdays and every other weekend,
starting next weekend is best for me.

-----------  First Specific Suggestion

I'm due to get my 53" Hitachi this
week.  Would someone bring a STB over
and check out my signal strength,
judge my DVD picture quality, etc.?
I have a Radio Shack double bow-tie
to hook up, but would probably try
to have an alternate for such a test.
I'm work with others to work out a
good time.  I live in Tucker.

#2 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Sun Feb 18, 2001 12:19 am
Subject: HDTV Broadcast Schedule Link
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Nice link, dmilam.

In case you weren't familar with
this, dmilam has added a bookmark
to the ahdtv@yahoogroups.com site
to a site which supplies daily
schedule listings of HDTV material.

dmilam, do you find the listings
to be consistent with what's actually
shown?  Can that site be trusted to
be pretty accurate with what is
shown in Atlanta?  Are there things
broadcast on the Atlanta stations
which are not listed there?

#1 From: "CB Genrich" <cbgenrich@...>
Date: Fri Feb 16, 2001 10:12 pm
Subject: Bookmarks and Database Added
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CB->ahdtv:

I've added a bookmarks section to
the AHDTV group.  This is a place
to put key URLs related to the
topic.  I've setup a couple and
would benefit from others including
their favorites.

I've also added a simple database
table.  The idea is to start
collecting OTA reception results
with different antennas and STBs,
from different areas.  This will
help me, future people in my
position, and possibly even a few
who already have a working system.

Checkout groups.yahoo.com/group/ahdtv
and login.  You'll find these features
pretty quickly, I'm sure.

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