In 1441, the 23rd reign year of King Sejong, Prince Yi Hyang invented the
pluviameter some 200 years earlier than Castelli who invented it in Italy in
1639.

On May 19 1442, the rainfall gauge system was established throughout the country

In 1959, the Korean government began to celebrate May 19 as Day of Invention.

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i have no idea anne. i'm way too busy to log in there very often.
maybe theresa can answer that for u directly. theresa, please
see anne's post. thx a bunch!

c 
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:

From: Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...>
Subject: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas.net get hacked?
To: wangguhn@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:12 AM






are the evil bots at work again????

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anne, u know whatever u saw may be an april fool's gag by theresa & the gang?
check
the site again, there could be hidden doorways in. a/f all it's april fool's
day!!!
 
have fun folks!!!!

c 
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:

From: Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...>
Subject: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas.net get hacked?
To: wangguhn@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:12 AM






are the evil bots at work again????

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Good thought!  I hope so!
I was sneaking a peek at work, and got concerned about infecting my office
network...

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@...> wrote:


From: Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@...>
Subject: Re: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas.net get hacked?
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 9:13 AM






anne, u know whatever u saw may be an april fool's gag by theresa & the gang?
check
the site again, there could be hidden doorways in. a/f all it's april fool's
day!!!
 
have fun folks!!!!

c 
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@yahoo. com>
Subject: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas. net get hacked?
To: wangguhn@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:12 AM

are the evil bots at work again????

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anne, try it now. i just went in ad it's the normal home page. maybe they
had something set up for the ultra early birds!

c 
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:

From: Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...>
Subject: Re: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas.net get hacked?
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 9:48 AM






Good thought!  I hope so!
I was sneaking a peek at work, and got concerned about infecting my office
network...

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas. net get hacked?
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 9:13 AM

anne, u know whatever u saw may be an april fool's gag by theresa & the gang?
check
the site again, there could be hidden doorways in. a/f all it's april fool's
day!!!
 
have fun folks!!!!

c 
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@ yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@ yahoo. com>
Subject: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas. net get hacked?
To: wangguhn@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:12 AM

are the evil bots at work again????

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Sorry I was at work and was unable to respond to this message.

If you scroll down on that first page you see the message "April Fools! Please
click here to be taken to koreandramas.net"

The other Admin and I were having a little fun and taking advantage of the fact
that the site was attacked by North Korean bots a few months ago.





Catch the wave at www.koreandramas.net
Recipient of the New York Korean Wave Award





________________________________
From: Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@...>
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 10:28:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas.net get hacked?


anne, try it now. i just went in ad it's the normal home page. maybe they
had something set up for the ultra early birds!

c
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas. net get hacked?
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 9:48 AM

Good thought!  I hope so!
I was sneaking a peek at work, and got concerned about infecting my office
network...

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas. net get hacked?
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 9:13 AM

anne, u know whatever u saw may be an april fool's gag by theresa & the gang?
check
the site again, there could be hidden doorways in. a/f all it's april fool's
day!!!

have fun folks!!!!

c
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@ yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@ yahoo. com>
Subject: [WangGuhn] Did koreandramas. net get hacked?
To: wangguhn@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:12 AM

are the evil bots at work again????

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I was watching the episode and enjoyed seeing the last part as it related
to some of the other things going on in the world at that time.

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...> wrote:


From: webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...>
Subject: [WangGuhn] the Korean scroll at the end of episode 79
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 6:11 AM






In 1441, the 23rd reign year of King Sejong, Prince Yi Hyang invented the
pluviameter some 200 years earlier than Castelli who invented it in Italy in
1639.

On May 19 1442, the rainfall gauge system was established throughout the country

In 1959, the Korean government began to celebrate May 19 as Day of Invention.



















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Hello, All! - Last nite I was awake at 3 AM or so, and turned to the Sundance
channel (digital) which sometimes shows
recent Korean films in the wee hours of the morning.  One of their offerings was
a horror flick called "Bunshinsaba",
and it was so scary I only watched it for 10 minutes then scurried back to bed! 
My nerves can't stand the creepy surprises
of a good horror film, but if you're made of sterner stuff, I can really
recommend it! (Maybe it's on DVD).





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The ancient Egyptians--as we know from the pyramids and massive architecture and
statuary--were fine engineers, and their society depended on an annual flooding
of the land to wash nutrients and water from the Nile River over Egypt's narrow
strip of arable land.  The "Nilometer" (a modern term, based on Greek) involved
a series of wells along the northward-flowing Nile River, particularly a great
well far upriver near Aswan, with marks on the interior stone to indicate the
height of the flood at that point.  These measurements were taken north of the
Mountains of the Moon (the Nile's origin) but far south of the fertile and
civilized region of Egypt, and thus enabled a prediction of whether the annual
floods would be (1) too heavy, causing ruin from excess water, (2) moderate and
just right, within the hoped-for boundaries, or (3) bring drought, because
inadequate snow-melt and rainfall would not permit any flooding at all.  A
detailed explanation can be seen in this interesting educational video: 
http://videos.howstuffworks.com/science-channel/30376-what-the-ancients-knew-nil\
ometer-video.htm .

There's a discussion of the antiquity of the Nilometer in this source:
http://www.touregypt.net/niloelephant.htm.  This article dates it back to about
the period of Thutmose III, who reigned from 1479 to 1425 BC.  This was in the
famous 18th Dynasty of the Middle Kingdom--an era that produced the religious
reformer Akhnaten and several able warrior Pharaohs.

The Nilometer seems similar in principle although not identical to the Korean
rain gauge, and was used for similar reasons, to warn of possible disastrous
flooding or drought.  Maybe one of you engineers can explain the differences
between the Nilometer and both the Korean rain gauge & the one developed later
by Castelli in Europe.  I can think of one difference, in that the Nilometer
measured river height at a particular time of year (before the flood that the
Egyptians called the "inundation") and not rainfall over a period of one day or
some other short period.  Rain contributed to the Nile, of course, but rainfall,
specifically, wasn't what was being measured.  Still, it was a pretty neat
invention for 3,500 years ago!

Sandy Fulton

I heard that "Bunshinsaba" was a remake of a Japanese movie with the same title,
and the original film was scarier than the remake.
For those of you who are interested in Korean horror movies, I can say that "A
Tale of Two Sisters" has the reputation of the scariest hoorror movie in Korea.
(You can see Kim Kap-Su in it) It was also remade as "Anna and Alex"in USA.

http://tinyurl.com/cy5rlf


--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, All! - Last nite I was awake at 3 AM or so, and turned to the Sundance
channel (digital) which sometimes shows
> recent Korean films in the wee hours of the morning.  One of their offerings
was a horror flick called "Bunshinsaba",
> and it was so scary I only watched it for 10 minutes then scurried back to
bed!  My nerves can't stand the creepy surprises
> of a good horror film, but if you're made of sterner stuff, I can really
recommend it! (Maybe it's on DVD).
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

seung i so agree w/u about "a tale of two sisters" aka "janghwa, hongryeon";
it is one of my favorite films ever. it's more psychological thriller than
horror.
also the u.s. title was 'reworked' by dreamworks @ the last minute to
"the uninvited". it was released here in feb of this year and was gone almost 
as soon as it came out. absolutely horrible which was not surprising. the
original
was more than brilliant. hence the old adage:  if it's not broke, don't fix it!
 
seung, i read on wiki, that the film is based on the joeseon era
folklore, janghwa
hongreyon jeon. how popular is this folktale in korean culture? it reminds me
a great deal of hansel and gretal & rapunzel. each gave life lesson about love
and
the definition of family. they also are great lessons in leaning to be careful
for
what u wish for as it just may come to u. i wonder if janghwa hongreyon jeon is
viewed in the same way by koreans.   

c 
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Sat, 4/4/09, webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...> wrote:


From: webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...>
Subject: [WangGuhn] Re: Scary Movie
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 3:37 AM






I heard that "Bunshinsaba" was a remake of a Japanese movie with the same title,
and the original film was scarier than the remake.
For those of you who are interested in Korean horror movies, I can say that "A
Tale of Two Sisters" has the reputation of the scariest hoorror movie in Korea.
(You can see Kim Kap-Su in it) It was also remade as "Anna and Alex"in USA.

http://tinyurl. com/cy5rlf

--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, All! - Last nite I was awake at 3 AM or so, and turned to the Sundance
channel (digital) which sometimes shows
> recent Korean films in the wee hours of the morning. One of their offerings
was a horror flick called "Bunshinsaba" ,
> and it was so scary I only watched it for 10 minutes then scurried back to
bed! My nerves can't stand the creepy surprises
> of a good horror film, but if you're made of sterner stuff, I can really
recommend it! (Maybe it's on DVD).
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



















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sorry guys typos........................................
 
hi all
just a quick btw for philly area mems. the 2009 philadelphia international film
festival wraps this weekend on 4/6:   http://www.phillycinefest.com/index.cfm 
included with the many international listings are 5 south korean films:
 
 
chugyeokja (the chaser): great thriller; think "silence of the lambs" meets
"seven" with a hint of "saw" (saw 1 only; parts 2-6 are just ridiculous!) for
flavor; see the original, warner brothers just acquired the rights so guess who
will be getting a bad remake ala "the uninvited".
 
go go 70s:  music biography based on a true story of the rock group, the devils;
archival footage is mixed into this film to give it a more vintage feel along
with it's incredible music.
 
meotjin haru(my dear enemy):  road movie slash romance film about a
heard-it-all-before woman and her charming, fast-talking, ladies man, dead-beat
ex-boyfriend; just how long before the sparks rekindle?
 
won-nang-so-ri(old partner):   this heartwarming tale came out of nowhere
beating some of south korea's top movies as the 3rd highest grossing film of
2008; the docu looks @ the inseparable bond between choi won-kyun and his ox
which has been by his side for 40yrs; the ox called the "one" who stayed as
choi's 9 children, including all of his sons, left home a/f the ox put them all
through college; tears of joy & sorrow will come as u watch their last journey
together.
 
treeless mountain(na mo ohpshi noon san) hangul mal title may be
incorrect/pulled from another site:  this is a joint u.s./south
korean semi-autobiographic work by korean-american director, kim so-young; shot
in south korea, the story centers on the abandonment of jin and bin, 7yr old and
5yr old sisters; tossed everywhere they amazingly still manage to always adapt
to whatever life throws @ them with a grace and maturity most adults could stand
to learn.
 
check these out this weekend if u can. if not, look for their upcoming dvd
releases. other members keep an eye on the international film festivals in ur
area as most of these films will be included in the same.
seung, out of curiosity, did u see any of the above films last year?

enjoy!


c 
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

Thanks for the tip! But I'll have to watch it in the middle of the day!




________________________________
From: webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...>
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 3:37:42 AM
Subject: [WangGuhn] Re: Scary Movie


I heard that "Bunshinsaba" was a remake of a Japanese movie with the same title,
and the original film was scarier than the remake.
For those of you who are interested in Korean horror movies, I can say that "A
Tale of Two Sisters" has the reputation of the scariest hoorror movie in Korea.
(You can see Kim Kap-Su in it) It was also remade as "Anna and Alex"in USA.

http://tinyurl. com/cy5rlf

--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, All! - Last nite I was awake at 3 AM or so, and turned to the Sundance
channel (digital) which sometimes shows
> recent Korean films in the wee hours of the morning.  One of their offerings
was a horror flick called "Bunshinsaba" ,
> and it was so scary I only watched it for 10 minutes then scurried back to
bed!  My nerves can't stand the creepy surprises
> of a good horror film, but if you're made of sterner stuff, I can really
recommend it! (Maybe it's on DVD).
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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"Jangwha and Hongryeon" is so well known  that most Koreans (even youngsters)
know it. What Koreans generally think about it is that it's one of the
"rewarding the good and punishing the evil" stories to which most Korean
folktales belong.

--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@...> wrote:
>
> seung i so agree w/u about?quot;a tale of two sisters" aka "janghwa,
hongryeon";
> it is one of my favorite films ever. it's more psychological thriller than
horror.
> also the u.s. title was 'reworked' by dreamworks @ the last minute to
> "the uninvited". it was released here in feb of this year and was gone
almost?> as soon as it came out. absolutely horrible which was not surprising.
the original
> was more than brilliant. hence the old adage:?if it's not broke, don't fix it!
> ?> seung, i read on wiki, that the film is based on the joeseon era
folklore, janghwa
> hongreyon jeon. how popular is this folktale in korean culture? it reminds me
> a great deal of hansel and gretal & rapunzel. each gave life lesson about love
and
> the definition of family. they also are great lessons in leaning to be careful
for
> what u wish for as it just may come to u. i wonder if janghwa hongreyon jeon
is
> viewed in the same way by koreans.  ?>
> c?> Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
> Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
> -MBC Damo
>
> King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
> "I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
> -MBC Dae Jang-geum
>
> --- On Sat, 4/4/09, webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...>
> Subject: [WangGuhn] Re: Scary Movie
> To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 3:37 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I heard that "Bunshinsaba" was a remake of a Japanese movie with the same
title, and the original film was scarier than the remake.
> For those of you who are interested in Korean horror movies, I can say that "A
Tale of Two Sisters" has the reputation of the scariest hoorror movie in Korea.
(You can see Kim Kap-Su in it) It was also remade as "Anna and Alex"in USA.
>
> http://tinyurl. com/cy5rlf
>
> --- In WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, All! - Last nite I was awake at 3 AM or so, and turned to the
Sundance channel (digital) which sometimes shows
> > recent Korean films in the wee hours of the morning. One of their offerings
was a horror flick called "Bunshinsaba" ,
> > and it was so scary I only watched it for 10 minutes then scurried back to
bed! My nerves can't stand the creepy surprises
> > of a good horror film, but if you're made of sterner stuff, I can really
recommend it! (Maybe it's on DVD).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

thank u seung. i can see that theme and it's even more interesting considering
the ending of "a tale of two sisters".
 
 
c 
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have." -MBC
Damo
 
King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum: "I love you, but I won't make you my concubine,
because I don't want you to be involved in a power struggle. However, I really
want you to be with me. I order you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you
as a man. This is my way of love. " -MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Sat, 4/4/09, webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...> wrote:


From: webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...>
Subject: [WangGuhn] Re: Scary Movie
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 1:32 PM






"Jangwha and Hongryeon" is so well known that most Koreans (even youngsters)
know it. What Koreans generally think about it is that it's one of the
"rewarding the good and punishing the evil" stories to which most Korean
folktales belong.

--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com, Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@ ...> wrote:
>
> seung i so agree w/u about?quot;a tale of two sisters" aka "janghwa,
hongryeon";
> it is one of my favorite films ever. it's more psychological thriller than
horror.
> also the u.s. title was 'reworked' by dreamworks @ the last minute to
> "the uninvited". it was released here in feb of this year and was gone
almost?> as soon as it came out. absolutely horrible which was not surprising.
the original
> was more than brilliant. hence the old adage:?if it's not broke, don't fix it!
> ?> seung, i read on wiki, that the film is based on the joeseon era
folklore, janghwa
> hongreyon jeon. how popular is this folktale in korean culture? it reminds me
> a great deal of hansel and gretal & rapunzel. each gave life lesson about love
and
> the definition of family. they also are great lessons in leaning to be careful
for
> what u wish for as it just may come to u. i wonder if janghwa hongreyon jeon
is
> viewed in the same way by koreans.  ?>
> c?> Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
> Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
> -MBC Damo
>
> King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
> "I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
> -MBC Dae Jang-geum
>
> --- On Sat, 4/4/09, webcolorchart <webcolorchart@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: webcolorchart <webcolorchart@ ...>
> Subject: [WangGuhn] Re: Scary Movie
> To: WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com
> Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 3:37 AM
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> I heard that "Bunshinsaba" was a remake of a Japanese movie with the same
title, and the original film was scarier than the remake.
> For those of you who are interested in Korean horror movies, I can say that "A
Tale of Two Sisters" has the reputation of the scariest hoorror movie in Korea.
(You can see Kim Kap-Su in it) It was also remade as "Anna and Alex"in USA.
>
> http://tinyurl. com/cy5rlf
>
> --- In WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, All! - Last nite I was awake at 3 AM or so, and turned to the
Sundance channel (digital) which sometimes shows
> > recent Korean films in the wee hours of the morning. One of their offerings
was a horror flick called "Bunshinsaba" ,
> > and it was so scary I only watched it for 10 minutes then scurried back to
bed! My nerves can't stand the creepy surprises
> > of a good horror film, but if you're made of sterner stuff, I can really
recommend it! (Maybe it's on DVD).
> >
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Tonight I was watching some clips of "Hwang Jini" on YouTube (yes, I realize
many didn't catch it, since it was on the now-defunct AZN)
so I could hear the great music and see the fabulous dresses and wigs of the
gisaeng once again, and in the first ep who should I spy as the kindly monk that
raised Jini in the temple where her mother left her, none other than our evil
Wang Zhen!





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Even if he does resemble the STAR WARS Emperor, the man playing Wang Zhen is a
good actor, so I imagine he could play all kinds of roles.  I don't know the
actor's name, but he has a noticeable permanent smile and twinkly eyes, which
are sinister in his current role, but could also be jovial and fatherly.  My
curiosity has to do with his enunciation of Chinese.  Because of his slowness of
speech and extreme tonalism he gives a vague impression of being a bit
uncomfortable in Chinese.  I can't speak and understand any Chinese, and simply
don't know.  I only feel that the other actors in "Sejong" don't exaggerate
tonalism quite so much when talking in Chinese and speak more rapidly.

There are many Chinese here in Philly and I used to work alongside one of them. 
A few years ago a former boss was a Chinese-American.  They often spoke Chinese
on the phone to relatives, and their speech was very rapid and although tonal,
not as noticeable as Wang Zhen's.  Most Chinese Americans (and I believe most
Chinese who have emigrated overseas) come from regions that use Cantonese (Yuet
Yu) while Wang Zhen may be speaking what Americans call Mandarin and others call
Northern Chinese (modern China's official language).  I can't tell.  They aren't
the same, and Mandarin may be both deliberately slower and perhaps more tonal. 
Or the "Wang Zhen" actor is speaking that way to appear more sinister.

Can anyone comment on this?

PS:  I do know the name of the actor playing Choi Man-Ri (Lee Sung Min).  He's
very good-looking but the pouches under his eyes give him something of a
sinister look, too--which is useful for the plot!  His menace reminds me of Cato
at the end of the Roman Republic--intending to do right, but ending up doing
everything wrong out of excessively narrow and rigidly dogmatic personal
principles (which both of them hypocritically broke when it was for their own
convenience).  Nearly all modern historians are convinced that Cato wrecked the
Republic with his intransigence and extremism, and Choi seems to be a real
threat to Sejong.  But--who knows?  So was Jo Mal Seng and he's changed.


Sandy Fulton

interesting blog and pics re:
How cosmic time was kept in Korea

http://nmazca.com/3142857/2006/07/how-cosmic-timewas-kept-in-korea.htm


Greetings to All from Betz in Philly  :-)
...I have limited access to my PC/Net
and have not posted in many months, altho I do
enjoy reading all the great information posted

--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, "webcolorchart" <webcolorchart@...> wrote:
>
> I heard that "Bunshinsaba" was a remake of a Japanese movie with the same
title, and the original film was scarier than the remake.
> For those of you who are interested in Korean horror movies, I can say that "A
Tale of Two Sisters" has the reputation of the scariest hoorror movie in Korea.
(You can see Kim Kap-Su in it) It was also remade as "Anna and Alex"in USA.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cy5rlf
>

I didn't think that "A Tale of Two Sisters" had as much of a reputation for
scariness as it did for its cinematography and its set decoration.  Actually I
always thought some of the Korean action films such as Oldboy and Sympathy for
Mister Vengeance are as suspenseful as the horror films from Korea.  Speaking of
Oldboy, they're showing that tonight at 11:30 on The Sundance Channel.



--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, All! - Last nite I was awake at 3 AM or so, and turned to the Sundance
channel (digital) which sometimes shows
> recent Korean films in the wee hours of the morning.  One of their offerings
was a horror flick called "Bunshinsaba",
> and it was so scary I only watched it for 10 minutes then scurried back to
bed!  My nerves can't stand the creepy surprises
> of a good horror film, but if you're made of sterner stuff, I can really
recommend it! (Maybe it's on DVD).


The Sundance Channel will be showing that again late night April 20th at 1:30.



The Sundance Channel will also be showing the Korean horror film Cinderella on
April 19th at midnight and the Korean horror movie Face on April 26th at
midnight.



Speaking of Korean horror movies, Park Ye Jin, the actress who played Cho Rin in
Dae Jo Young, starred in the Korean horror movie Memento Mori(Yeogo goedam II).






Bryan
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thx 4 the heads up bryan. i'll be marking my cal 4 all. i didn't even realize
park ye-jin was chul-in. i've had the yeogo goedam  series for over 4yrs
now but it's been a while since i've looked @ it. i'm gonna have to check
them out again. in fact sundance aired ryeong (aka the ghost aka dear friend)
last week. for those watching dae wang sejong, yi yun-ji (queen soheon) played
eun-jeong, eun-seo's tong-saeng(younger sister) in ryeong. interesting since
in ryeong her character is all of 15yrs and in less than 5yrs she's now playing
the 'omoni' of korea. actually she's quite versatile considering she started in
comedy (sitcom nonstop). thx again, i'll be watching 4 sure. :-)
 
 
 
c 
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwangbo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo

King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Bryan <TheWitchingHours@...> wrote:


From: Bryan <TheWitchingHours@...>
Subject: [WangGuhn] Re: Scary Movie
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 9:41 PM








--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com, "webcolorchart" <webcolorchart@ ...> wrote:
>
> I heard that "Bunshinsaba" was a remake of a Japanese movie with the same
title, and the original film was scarier than the remake.
> For those of you who are interested in Korean horror movies, I can say that "A
Tale of Two Sisters" has the reputation of the scariest hoorror movie in Korea.
(You can see Kim Kap-Su in it) It was also remade as "Anna and Alex"in USA.
>
> http://tinyurl. com/cy5rlf
>

I didn't think that "A Tale of Two Sisters" had as much of a reputation for
scariness as it did for its cinematography and its set decoration. Actually I
always thought some of the Korean action films such as Oldboy and Sympathy for
Mister Vengeance are as suspenseful as the horror films from Korea. Speaking of
Oldboy, they're showing that tonight at 11:30 on The Sundance Channel.

--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroup s.com, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, All! - Last nite I was awake at 3 AM or so, and turned to the Sundance
channel (digital) which sometimes shows
> recent Korean films in the wee hours of the morning. One of their offerings
was a horror flick called "Bunshinsaba" ,
> and it was so scary I only watched it for 10 minutes then scurried back to
bed! My nerves can't stand the creepy surprises
> of a good horror film, but if you're made of sterner stuff, I can really
recommend it! (Maybe it's on DVD).

The Sundance Channel will be showing that again late night April 20th at 1:30.

The Sundance Channel will also be showing the Korean horror film Cinderella on
April 19th at midnight and the Korean horror movie Face on April 26th at
midnight.

Speaking of Korean horror movies, Park Ye Jin, the actress who played Cho Rin in
Dae Jo Young, starred in the Korean horror movie Memento Mori(Yeogo goedam II).

Bryan
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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Thanks Betz! Really Interesting - Is this sundial the "ganui" in the plot - or
is the ganui an armillary? Or are they the same thing?? (anyone?)




________________________________
From: betz3424 <betz.mc@...>
To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:30:36 PM
Subject: [WangGuhn] How  cosmic  time  was  kept  in  Korea





interesting blog and pics re:
How cosmic time was kept in Korea

http://nmazca. com/3142857/ 2006/07/how- cosmic-timewas- kept-in-korea. htm

Greetings to All from Betz in Philly  :-)
...I have limited access to my PC/Net
and have not posted in many months, altho I do
enjoy reading all the great information posted







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Comcast dropped three of four PBS stations (WLVT, WNJS and WYBE)
without announcement on Monday, April 13th. So much for my watching
the ending of GKS.

Bill Jameson wrote:
> Comcast dropped three of four PBS stations (WLVT, WNJS and WYBE)
> without announcement on Monday, April 13th. So much for my watching
> the ending of GKS.
>
Here in Bucks County (Comcast
Bensalem), the channels have
been dropped *only* in the
old-style "analog" feed --
they're still there if you
have digital service through
a Comcast-provided digital
converter box, which costs
less than $10 extra per month
per set.  I suspect if you
get yourself one of those
boxes before the weekend, you
won't miss a GKS beat.  :-)

Donna:

Ganui (simplified instrument) is a sky-observing instrument which evolved from
an armillary by simplifying it, whereas a sundial is just for measuring time.
Perhaps an armillary is not an observing instrument but an educational or
modelling tool, isn't it?
After Ganui had been invented in China, it was made smaller and portable in
Chosun during the reign of King Sejong, and named so-ganui (small simplified
instrument).
For more detail, please click on and scroll down the link below.

http://tinyurl.com/clwg4w


--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Betz! Really Interesting - Is this sundial the "ganui" in the plot - or
is the ganui an armillary? Or are they the same thing?? (anyone?)
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: betz3424 <betz.mc@...>
> To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:30:36 PM
> Subject: [WangGuhn] How  cosmic  time  was  kept  in  Korea
>
>
>
>
>
> interesting blog and pics re:
> How cosmic time was kept in Korea
>
> http://nmazca. com/3142857/ 2006/07/how- cosmic-timewas- kept-in-korea. htm
>
> Greetings to All from Betz in Philly  :-)
> ...I have limited access to my PC/Net
> and have not posted in many months, altho I do
> enjoy reading all the great information posted
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Mind Tv explains it all.....

http://forum.koreandramas.net/topic/8159/

We are still watching on analog because we tape the show.  (We can also see it
with digital converter box, but are not able to tape.) I am assuming that this
will continue same until June 12???  Anyone know? I must see GKS to the end!

Madelyn



  --- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Morgen <editor@...> wrote:
>
> Bill Jameson wrote:
> > Comcast dropped three of four PBS stations (WLVT, WNJS and WYBE)
> > without announcement on Monday, April 13th. So much for my watching
> > the ending of GKS.
> >
> Here in Bucks County (Comcast
> Bensalem), the channels have
> been dropped *only* in the
> old-style "analog" feed --
> they're still there if you
> have digital service through
> a Comcast-provided digital
> converter box, which costs
> less than $10 extra per month
> per set.  I suspect if you
> get yourself one of those
> boxes before the weekend, you
> won't miss a GKS beat.  :-)
>

You can record onto a VCR
from the digital box --
it's just a matter of how
you hook it up.  What you
can't do is record from
the box and watch another
channel.  Many (most?)
VCRs have video and audio
inputs in addition to the
usual screw-on cable
input, and those can be
connected directly to the
corresponding outputs on
the digital box with an
inexpensive A-V cable.


Madelyn wrote:
> We are still watching on analog because we tape the show.  (We can also see it
with digital converter box, but are not able to tape.) I am assuming that this
will continue same until June 12???  Anyone know? I must see GKS to the end!
>
> Madelyn
>
>
>
>  --- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Morgen <editor@...> wrote:
>
>> Bill Jameson wrote:
>>
>>> Comcast dropped three of four PBS stations (WLVT, WNJS and WYBE)
>>> without announcement on Monday, April 13th. So much for my watching
>>> the ending of GKS.
>>>
>>>
>> Here in Bucks County (Comcast
>> Bensalem), the channels have
>> been dropped *only* in the
>> old-style "analog" feed --
>> they're still there if you
>> have digital service through
>> a Comcast-provided digital
>> converter box, which costs
>> less than $10 extra per month
>> per set.  I suspect if you
>> get yourself one of those
>> boxes before the weekend, you
>> won't miss a GKS beat.  :-)
>>
>>

I've been told that, but I haven't had time to work it out.  That's encouraging!

To: WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com
From: editor@...
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:29:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [WangGuhn] Re: Comcast Delaware County drops WYBE


























       You can record onto a VCR

from the digital box --

it's just a matter of how

you hook it up.  What you

can't do is record from

the box and watch another

channel.  Many (most?)

VCRs have video and audio

inputs in addition to the

usual screw-on cable

input, and those can be

connected directly to the

corresponding outputs on

the digital box with an

inexpensive A-V cable.



Madelyn wrote:

> We are still watching on analog because we tape the show.  (We can also see it
with digital converter box, but are not able to tape.) I am assuming that this
will continue same until June 12???  Anyone know? I must see GKS to the end!

>

> Madelyn

>

>

>

>  --- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Morgen <editor@...> wrote:

>

>> Bill Jameson wrote:

>>

>>> Comcast dropped three of four PBS stations (WLVT, WNJS and WYBE)

>>> without announcement on Monday, April 13th. So much for my watching

>>> the ending of GKS.

>>>

>>>

>> Here in Bucks County (Comcast

>> Bensalem), the channels have

>> been dropped *only* in the

>> old-style "analog" feed --

>> they're still there if you

>> have digital service through

>> a Comcast-provided digital

>> converter box, which costs

>> less than $10 extra per month

>> per set.  I suspect if you

>> get yourself one of those

>> boxes before the weekend, you

>> won't miss a GKS beat.  :-)

>>

>>























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Hi Everyone,

Does anyone in the Willow Grove PA area know if WYBE is having
technical difficulties?

We have Comcast and Channel 35 has nothing but "snow" since yesterday,
4/18/09....obviously I missed last night's episode.

I didn't see any notices on their website.

Well then.....

Fretless