Our "Korean correspondent" Seung (webcolorchart) mentioned once that when EOTS
was shown in various Asian countries, EVERYONE was so distressed by Yeom Jang's
emotional pain...this is a real tribute to Song Il-Guk's superb, nuanced acting,
I think! - Donna T
Erica <erica.entwistle@...> wrote: Donna,
I know! The only thing that's good is that that cow Jung Hwa is NOT a real
character. I can't stand how she treated Yeom Moon and I detested her;
since I totally loved Yeom Moon and ached for the character.
I wished it had ended differently, but it seems the writers tried to stick
with history as much as possible there.
Erica
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>
> To all fans of "Emperor of the Sea" - the bare-bones facts of this
> series and its ending are true, including the characters Jang Bo-Go and Yeom
> Jang
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In defense of Jung-Hwa, her story was as tragic as Yeom-Jang's, don't you
think?? Both were under the "protection" (practically slaves) of evil people,
Lady Jami and Master Lee, and being loyal to their masters under the mores of
the period and place, had no self-determination. Jung-Hwa conducted herself
always with absolute correctness given the circumstances, and earned her
survival. Yeom-Jang avenged Master Lee's death, too, as he had sworn to do, and
then accepted his fate. EOTS was truly Shakespearean in its sorrowful ironies
and inescapable ends.
Erica <erica.entwistle@...> wrote: Donna,
I know! The only thing that's good is that that cow Jung Hwa is NOT a real
character. I can't stand how she treated Yeom Moon and I detested her;
since I totally loved Yeom Moon and ached for the character.
I wished it had ended differently, but it seems the writers tried to stick
with history as much as possible there.
Erica
On 4/30/07, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
>
> To all fans of "Emperor of the Sea" - the bare-bones facts of this
> series and its ending are true, including the characters Jang Bo-Go and Yeom
> Jang
>
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MORE SPOILERS
I agree with you absolutely. Jung Hwa's story WAS tragic. And she
concluded that her involvement with either Jang Bogo or Yeom Moon was bad
for all of them; so she resolved to not get romatically involved with
either. That would seem to have played itself out ~ whenever she admitted
her love for Jang BoGo, bad things happened to all of them.
I just loved the conflicted character of Yeom Moon so much; and felt that
there was so much good in him - and he wanted to be good that had Jung Hwa
given him the slightest encouragement; "I have deep feelings for you and I
owe you so much, just please respect my position" that would have been
something for Yeom Moon to cling to and maintain goodness. I realize though
that the end had to be what it was.
In the end, I still can't stand Jung Hwa and I decided to keep my eye on
Song Il Guk because he was so brilliant as Yeom Moon.
On 5/1/07, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
>
> SPOILER
> In defense of Jung-Hwa, her story was as tragic as Yeom-Jang's, don't you
> think?? Both were under the "protection" (practically slaves) of evil
> people, Lady Jami and Master Lee, and being loyal to their masters under the
> mores of the period and place, had no self-determination. Jung-Hwa conducted
> herself always with absolute correctness given the circumstances, and earned
> her survival. Yeom-Jang avenged Master Lee's death, too, as he had sworn to
> do, and then accepted his fate. EOTS was truly Shakespearean in its
> sorrowful ironies and inescapable ends.
>
> Erica <erica.entwistle@... <erica.entwistle%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> Donna,
>
> I know! The only thing that's good is that that cow Jung Hwa is NOT a real
> character. I can't stand how she treated Yeom Moon and I detested her;
> since I totally loved Yeom Moon and ached for the character.
>
> I wished it had ended differently, but it seems the writers tried to stick
> with history as much as possible there.
>
> Erica
>
> On 4/30/07, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@... <drtwmt%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> > To all fans of "Emperor of the Sea" - the bare-bones facts of this
> > series and its ending are true, including the characters Jang Bo-Go and
> Yeom
> > Jang
> >
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Hoping some of those with the Jumong dvds can answer a
question.
YesAsia offers preorders for a "US version" of 81
episodes, sold in 4 separate volumes, a total of 28
discs.
AsianDB offers a boxed set of the entire show (81
epis) on 20 discs in a Hong Kong version.
Both have english subtitles; both are region 1
compatible. Can anyone offer an opinion as to
distinctions between the two?
Thanks,
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The Hong Kong version will typically have chinese "pirate" subs. Sometimes
these subs are excellent but typically this means both mispellings and glaring
grammatical errors. Also, most times with the Hong Kong version the names are
translated as Chinese names not Korean names.
The US version typically has better subs and has been translated from Korean to
English. (In the Hong Kong version you will often find that the subs have been
translated from Korean to Chinese to English.)
For the cost of this set, I would not risk purchasing the Hong Kong version.
Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:
Hoping some of those with the Jumong dvds can answer a
question.
YesAsia offers preorders for a "US version" of 81
episodes, sold in 4 separate volumes, a total of 28
discs.
AsianDB offers a boxed set of the entire show (81
epis) on 20 discs in a Hong Kong version.
Both have english subtitles; both are region 1
compatible. Can anyone offer an opinion as to
distinctions between the two?
Thanks,
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Thanks, T - buying the volumes separately (I do not
see that the US version is being sold as a complete
set) is more expensive, so I needed to know if there
was a justification for it - and from your
explanation, there certainly is!
Anne
--- Theresa Landis <mtlandis@...> wrote:
> The Hong Kong version will typically have chinese
> "pirate" subs. Sometimes these subs are excellent
> but typically this means both mispellings and
> glaring grammatical errors. Also, most times with
> the Hong Kong version the names are translated as
> Chinese names not Korean names.
>
> The US version typically has better subs and has
> been translated from Korean to English. (In the Hong
> Kong version you will often find that the subs have
> been translated from Korean to Chinese to English.)
>
> For the cost of this set, I would not risk
> purchasing the Hong Kong version.
>
> Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:
> Hoping some of those with
> the Jumong dvds can answer a
> question.
>
> YesAsia offers preorders for a "US version" of 81
> episodes, sold in 4 separate volumes, a total of 28
> discs.
>
> AsianDB offers a boxed set of the entire show (81
> epis) on 20 discs in a Hong Kong version.
>
> Both have english subtitles; both are region 1
> compatible. Can anyone offer an opinion as to
> distinctions between the two?
>
> Thanks,
> Anne
>
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Thanks, Theresa, for clarifying that about Hong Kong subtitles - I was wondering
why the subtitles to the Chinese series I occasionally watch ( "Seven Swords
from Mt. Heaven", and " The Romance of Red Dust" )are so horribly translated!
It adds such humor to them it's hard to take the stories seriously at all. -
DonnaT
Theresa Landis <mtlandis@...> wrote: The
Hong Kong version will typically have chinese "pirate" subs. Sometimes these
subs are excellent but typically this means both mispellings and glaring
grammatical errors. Also, most times with the Hong Kong version the names are
translated as Chinese names not Korean names.
The US version typically has better subs and has been translated from Korean to
English. (In the Hong Kong version you will often find that the subs have been
translated from Korean to Chinese to English.)
For the cost of this set, I would not risk purchasing the Hong Kong version.
Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:
Hoping some of those with the Jumong dvds can answer a
question.
YesAsia offers preorders for a "US version" of 81
episodes, sold in 4 separate volumes, a total of 28
discs.
AsianDB offers a boxed set of the entire show (81
epis) on 20 discs in a Hong Kong version.
Both have english subtitles; both are region 1
compatible. Can anyone offer an opinion as to
distinctions between the two?
Thanks,
Anne
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Yes thanks Seung,
I read all of it. This definitely makes the series more interesting to me.
JUDY
Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
Wow, thanks, Seung for all those links - - reading them makes the DJY
series a lot more interesting to me! It seems that Xue and Yeon were
larger-than-life in history as well as on screen - Donna T
webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...> wrote: According to my search on the
net, Xue's origin as a Khitan is quite
unclear. After Koguryo was destroyed, he was even sent to fight the
Khitans. But Xue has been fairly famous in China, and had many
folklore, one of them might be describing him as Khitan.
http://www.answers.com/topic/xue-rengui
Yeon was also a good general of Koguryo, but at the same time he was
a terrible tyrant. I believe the tyranny of him is described in this
series as well. The wikipedia artice below is worth reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeon_Gaesomun
And I searched for portrayals (re-creation of modern days) of Yeon
and Xue on the net. Please click and scroll down the link below to
see them.
http://tinyurl.com/25eryr
--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Donna Thomas <drtwmt@...> wrote:
>
> I would imagine that Yeon is a better-documented person than Xue
(because he's a Khitan?? don't know, just thought they were not
as "civilized") - at any rate, since they are well-know figures in
Chinese and Korean history, are their portrayals here ( the way their
characters are re-created) controversial in any way??- Donna T
>
> webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...>
wrote: It's interesting that the
showdown of Yeon Gaesomoon (YGSM) and Xue
> Rengui has been one of the popular topics to Chinese story tellers
> since Tang Dynasty. So some Beijing Operas such as DuMuQiao (The
Single-
> plank Bridge) and YuNiHe (The Sludge River) deal with the showdown
of
> the two heroes.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/25eryr
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The video that Bob (subprimitive) shot for the KDrama Group's last get
together (4/21/2007) is now available online.
If you are a member of www.koreandramas.net you can download the video
directly to you computer. Instructions can be found here....
http://forum.koreandramas.net/topic_3871.html
If you are not a member (or if you prefer not to download it) you can
view it online here.....
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5376397418396794056
Bob did a fantastic job with the video!!!!!!!
ms. anne, versions such as the ones asiandb sells are the "others"
i told u about. they are not really "pirated" as they are legal
releases. they are just not formatted for english speaking audiences.
kds are hudge w/the chinese so most companies make specific
releases for the chinese market.
remember it may cost more but any sbs/mbc coming from ya entertainment
is the only us english subbed version. any sbs/mbc media that says "eng subs"
but
not put out by ya entertainment distribution is not for englsih speaking
(ie american) audiences. ya does the north american distribution for
sbs/mbc. kbs does their own u.s. distribution but may begin using ya
in the future (keep ur fingers crossed). ya is a great company. product
& packaging is well done & the subs are great. they contain no grammar/
spelling errors. they sometimes also come w/small booklets that help explain
any cultural traditions non-koreans are not familiar w/. my "damo" & "dae
jang-geum" sets each have these & they are broken down per eppy. it
will be worth the cost in the end. u will have high quality product that will
last a whole lot longer. think of it as an investment w/a great return
pending!
Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:
Thanks, T - buying the volumes separately (I do not
see that the US version is being sold as a complete
set) is more expensive, so I needed to know if there
was a justification for it - and from your
explanation, there certainly is!
Anne
--- Theresa Landis <mtlandis@...> wrote:
> The Hong Kong version will typically have chinese
> "pirate" subs. Sometimes these subs are excellent
> but typically this means both mispellings and
> glaring grammatical errors. Also, most times with
> the Hong Kong version the names are translated as
> Chinese names not Korean names.
>
> The US version typically has better subs and has
> been translated from Korean to English. (In the Hong
> Kong version you will often find that the subs have
> been translated from Korean to Chinese to English.)
>
> For the cost of this set, I would not risk
> purchasing the Hong Kong version.
>
> Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:
> Hoping some of those with
> the Jumong dvds can answer a
> question.
>
> YesAsia offers preorders for a "US version" of 81
> episodes, sold in 4 separate volumes, a total of 28
> discs.
>
> AsianDB offers a boxed set of the entire show (81
> epis) on 20 discs in a Hong Kong version.
>
> Both have english subtitles; both are region 1
> compatible. Can anyone offer an opinion as to
> distinctions between the two?
>
> Thanks,
> Anne
>
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Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwang-bo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo
King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum
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Hello all
The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a Korean
nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented to
me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great Tiger.
ÃàÇÏÇÕ´Ï´Ù! Àß Çß´Ù! (ch'uk-ha hamnida! chal haetda!)
seung, help me please! :-) is the above correct?
Frank <chiroronin1@...> wrote:
Hello all
The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a Korean
nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented to
me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great Tiger.
C
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwang-bo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo
King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum
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Frank, congratulations on your Korean name and new sword!
Dae in 'Dae-Ho' is the same Dae in 'Dae Jo-Young,' and Hae actually
means Sun, and accordingly 'brilliant.' Good name.
--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <chiroronin1@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a
Korean
> nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented to
> me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great
Tiger.
>
C,
Yes, they are correct. The former means "congratulations" and the
secong "Good Job." But the latter should not be used toward persons
older than you, since it is not a respectful form. More respectful
form would be "Àß Çß¾î¿ä!" and the most respectful form would be "Àß
Çϼ̾î¿ä!"
Seung
--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Chrissandra Hamilton
<csh3prodigy@...> wrote:
>
> ÃàÇÏÇÕ´Ï´Ù! Àß Çß´Ù! (ch'uk-ha hamnida! chal haetda!)
>
> seung, help me please! :-) is the above correct?
>
> Frank <chiroronin1@...> wrote:
> Hello all
>
> The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a
Korean
> nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented
to
> me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great
Tiger.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> C
> Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage
of me."
> Hwang-bo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish
to have."
> -MBC Damo
>
> King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
> "I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't
want you to be involved in a power struggle. However, I really want
you to be with me. I order you (to be with me) as your lord, and I
beg you as a man. This is my way of love. "
> -MBC Dae Jang-geum
>
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>
thank u seung, i knew there were different honorifics but i still learning
so i never remember which is for u r senior, formal & informal. btw, i'm not
sure what came up on ur screen but for some reason the hangul is coming
up coded on my end ( a series of symbols). just started happening recently
so i'm gonna have to see what is wrong on my end.
thanks again for all ur help. i may have u resend to
me so i can see the correct spelling again. :-)
webcolorchart <webcolorchart@...> wrote:
C,
Yes, they are correct. The former means "congratulations" and the
secong "Good Job." But the latter should not be used toward persons
older than you, since it is not a respectful form. More respectful
form would be "Àß Çß¾î¿ä!" and the most respectful form would be "Àß
Çϼ̾î¿ä!"
Seung
--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, Chrissandra Hamilton
<csh3prodigy@...> wrote:
>
> ÃàÇÏÇÕ´Ï´Ù! Àß Çß´Ù! (ch'uk-ha hamnida! chal haetda!)
>
> seung, help me please! :-) is the above correct?
>
> Frank <chiroronin1@...> wrote:
> Hello all
>
> The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a
Korean
> nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented
to
> me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great
Tiger.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> C
> Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage
of me."
> Hwang-bo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish
to have."
> -MBC Damo
>
> King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
> "I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't
want you to be involved in a power struggle. However, I really want
you to be with me. I order you (to be with me) as your lord, and I
beg you as a man. This is my way of love. "
> -MBC Dae Jang-geum
>
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Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwang-bo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo
King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum
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congratulations Hae Dae-Ho,
Or am I allowed to address you as such?
good news any way.
Bob
--
"In the next life, you're on your own"
http://www.sub-primitive.150m.com/
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From: "Frank" <chiroronin1@...>
> Hello all
>
> The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a Korean
> nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented to
> me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great Tiger.
>
>
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Uhhh-HUM!
(clears throat)...
FRANK!?
CONGRATS!!!!
Now we just need to find you a Khitan Princess and have someone chase you
around for a bit so you can rise to power and take over Washington!
-_-
What? It could happen! I'd love to know about the Korean swordmaking process.
And is there a specific name for a Korean sword? What about the quality of
Korean swords, in comparison to Chinese swords, in comparison to Japanese
swords? Do you secretly slash at the air when no one is looking only for the
mere fun of it? Is there a Korean sword draw technique that emphasizes drawing
from the sheath like Japanese battojutsu? When you were givin this name, was or
will there be, a ceremony? Sorry to sound idiotic but, will you swear
brotherhood, kill a white horse, and then drink its blood while vowing to
restore the integrity of something, somewhere, within a set amount of time?
If so, can Bob video tape your adventures since we have been made aware of his
skill with the camera? Can I write about it? Although random these questions be,
do you find yourself headed off to wherever and constantly reaching for your
sword before heading out the door? Can you now randomly smite the following
unabridged list; brigands, rebels, eunichs, peasants, Choi Choong-hon,
attendants, Chon-su the Sellout from IYSS, wayward people like me who post these
things, the Infamous Wimpy King of IYSS, the person who created the bad pacing
music for DJY, anyone who says that Wakizaka was not one of the best all-time
villains and those... who ascribe to the religion of MACROBIOTIC FAITH!?
Has anyone timed your sword draw? Who is the best known swordsman in Korean
history and who is regarded as the current master of Korean swordsmanship? Do
women learn swordsmanship? How long did it take for you to master the sword...
and, and this one is key... have you begun to master... the Art of Korean Drama
telepathy? Hmmmm, hmmm, hmm...
Om Mani Padme Hum, Om Mani Padme Hum, OOM MANI PADME HUM!!!!
I still can't gain ground on the whole mind-reading technique...
I'm starting to lose faith here! Why do I see an image of all of the ministers
clearing their throats and looking at me funny as they look around and up in the
sky?
With all of my foolishness as well as seriousness, I say to you Hae Dae-Ho. I
could tell when I saw that demonstration a while back that you have worked very
hard to get to where you are. CONGRATS!!!! And keep striving forward! Continued
success, sincerely, Shawn.
Frank <chiroronin1@...> wrote:
Hello all
The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a Korean
nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented to
me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great Tiger.
---------------------------------
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Frank, that's wonderful! What a lovely experience! Congrats!
Judy
Frank <chiroronin1@...> wrote:
Hello all
The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a Korean
nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented to
me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great Tiger.
---------------------------------
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
My 20 disc set just arrived. So I guess I ended up
with the Hong Kong version. I ordered it the day
BEFORE you posted your question...Wish you'd posted
your question a day earlier, I might have waited.
Well, not sure when I will have time to watch the
series, but I will post my opinion of this set when I
do.
Dom
--- Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:
> Hoping some of those with the Jumong dvds can answer
> a
> question.
>
> YesAsia offers preorders for a "US version" of 81
> episodes, sold in 4 separate volumes, a total of 28
> discs.
>
> AsianDB offers a boxed set of the entire show (81
> epis) on 20 discs in a Hong Kong version.
>
> Both have english subtitles; both are region 1
> compatible. Can anyone offer an opinion as to
> distinctions between the two?
>
> Thanks,
> Anne
>
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now, now dom, it's spilled milk @ this point. ;-)
u could've asked the same question. :-) now, u
know for next time.
Dom DiGioia <digioiadom@...> wrote:
My 20 disc set just arrived. So I guess I ended up
with the Hong Kong version. I ordered it the day
BEFORE you posted your question...Wish you'd posted
your question a day earlier, I might have waited.
Well, not sure when I will have time to watch the
series, but I will post my opinion of this set when I
do.
Dom
--- Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:
> Hoping some of those with the Jumong dvds can answer
> a
> question.
>
> YesAsia offers preorders for a "US version" of 81
> episodes, sold in 4 separate volumes, a total of 28
> discs.
>
> AsianDB offers a boxed set of the entire show (81
> epis) on 20 discs in a Hong Kong version.
>
> Both have english subtitles; both are region 1
> compatible. Can anyone offer an opinion as to
> distinctions between the two?
>
> Thanks,
> Anne
>
> __________________________________________________
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C
Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the heavy baggage of me."
Hwang-bo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a dream I wish to have."
-MBC Damo
King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
"I love you, but I won't make you my concubine, because I don't want you to be
involved in a power struggle. However, I really want you to be with me. I order
you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg you as a man. This is my way of
love. "
-MBC Dae Jang-geum
---------------------------------
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Shawn
Hi
I really appreciate your sense of humor. It's great!
I'll try to answer some of your questions. The sword we use is called
a jin gum. Gum (Kum) means sword Jin is the type of sword. It is hand
forged and has many of the same characteristics of a Japanese sword.
Actually I am more familiar with the forging process of a Japanese
sword as I have studied and collected antique Japanese swords for
many years. The Korean sword lacks the folding process of its
Japanese counterpart but it holds up very well in cutting hard
targets like thick bamboo stalks. A more delicate and lighter Korean
sword is known as a samgakdo and is used for cutting softer targets
like rolls of straw.
Most training consists of cutting through the air. I make at least
500 cuts with different techniques every day. It almost become like a
meditation as the mind and body work in harmony. I try to cut bamboo
as much as I can I just planted a garden in my yard. I also practice
throw cutting techniques in which I toss an object in the air and
then draw and cut it. There are twelve techniques we need to know. I
also like to practice cutting blindfolded.
I also practice sparring techniques with a partner. Sometimes with
out contact and sometimes we put armor on and use jukto (shinai) and
practice full contact. Not many of my classmates do full contact
because it leads to a lot of bruising and can be quite painful if you
are on the receiving end of a successful attack,
I haven't slain any white horses yet nor drank their blood. I have
had a glass or two of soju with my instructor several times.
I don't consider my skills worthy of Bob's taping abilities and
regarding Macrobiotics, I haven't seen Michio Kuchi in years,
although I will be meeting Christina Pirillo tomorrow.
The best Korean swordsman I know in the States is Master Dong Jin
Park and I think Master Jung Woo Kim may be the best in Korea right
now. I think one of the best past swordsmen would have been Hae Mo
Su, if he existed.
Women do study sword technique and I have to admit that they are
often times much more graceful then men. I have seen Korean sword
dance done by women and I am totally amazed by their grace and beauty.
Thanks again Shawn for sharing your gifted wit. Hope to see you soon.
HDH
--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, shawn williams
<geesehoward4life@...> wrote:
>
> Uhhh-HUM!
> (clears throat)...
>
> FRANK!?
> CONGRATS!!!!
> Now we just need to find you a Khitan Princess and have someone
chase you around for a bit so you can rise to power and take over
Washington!
> -_-
> What? It could happen! I'd love to know about the Korean
swordmaking process. And is there a specific name for a Korean sword?
What about the quality of Korean swords, in comparison to Chinese
swords, in comparison to Japanese swords? Do you secretly slash at
the air when no one is looking only for the mere fun of it? Is there
a Korean sword draw technique that emphasizes drawing from the sheath
like Japanese battojutsu? When you were givin this name, was or will
there be, a ceremony? Sorry to sound idiotic but, will you swear
brotherhood, kill a white horse, and then drink its blood while
vowing to restore the integrity of something, somewhere, within a set
amount of time?
>
> If so, can Bob video tape your adventures since we have been made
aware of his skill with the camera? Can I write about it? Although
random these questions be, do you find yourself headed off to
wherever and constantly reaching for your sword before heading out
the door? Can you now randomly smite the following unabridged list;
brigands, rebels, eunichs, peasants, Choi Choong-hon, attendants,
Chon-su the Sellout from IYSS, wayward people like me who post these
things, the Infamous Wimpy King of IYSS, the person who created the
bad pacing music for DJY, anyone who says that Wakizaka was not one
of the best all-time villains and those... who ascribe to the
religion of MACROBIOTIC FAITH!?
>
> Has anyone timed your sword draw? Who is the best known swordsman
in Korean history and who is regarded as the current master of Korean
swordsmanship? Do women learn swordsmanship? How long did it take for
you to master the sword... and, and this one is key... have you begun
to master... the Art of Korean Drama telepathy? Hmmmm, hmmm, hmm...
>
> Om Mani Padme Hum, Om Mani Padme Hum, OOM MANI PADME HUM!!!!
> I still can't gain ground on the whole mind-reading technique...
> I'm starting to lose faith here! Why do I see an image of all of
the ministers clearing their throats and looking at me funny as they
look around and up in the sky?
>
> With all of my foolishness as well as seriousness, I say to you
Hae Dae-Ho. I could tell when I saw that demonstration a while back
that you have worked very hard to get to where you are. CONGRATS!!!!
And keep striving forward! Continued success, sincerely, Shawn.
>
>
> Frank <chiroronin1@...> wrote:
> Hello all
>
> The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a
Korean
> nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented
to
> me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great
Tiger.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Well, that's the nice thing about a group like
this...you find out about all sorts of other options.
you folks have been most helpful.
Just think...I will only have to get up to change the
DVD 20 times with this set. If I'd purchased the
YesAsia version, I'd have to get off the couch 8 MORE
TIMES!!! So maybe it's not such a bad deal after all.
Dom
--- Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@...>
wrote:
> now, now dom, it's spilled milk @ this point. ;-)
> u could've asked the same question. :-) now, u
> know for next time.
>
>
>
> Dom DiGioia <digioiadom@...> wrote:
> My 20 disc set just arrived. So I guess I
> ended up
> with the Hong Kong version. I ordered it the day
> BEFORE you posted your question...Wish you'd posted
> your question a day earlier, I might have waited.
>
> Well, not sure when I will have time to watch the
> series, but I will post my opinion of this set when
> I
> do.
>
> Dom
>
> --- Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:
>
> > Hoping some of those with the Jumong dvds can
> answer
> > a
> > question.
> >
> > YesAsia offers preorders for a "US version" of 81
> > episodes, sold in 4 separate volumes, a total of
> 28
> > discs.
> >
> > AsianDB offers a boxed set of the entire show (81
> > epis) on 20 discs in a Hong Kong version.
> >
> > Both have english subtitles; both are region 1
> > compatible. Can anyone offer an opinion as to
> > distinctions between the two?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Anne
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
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>
>
>
>
> C
> Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by the
> heavy baggage of me."
> Hwang-bo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not a
> dream I wish to have."
> -MBC Damo
>
> King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
> "I love you, but I won't make you my concubine,
> because I don't want you to be involved in a power
> struggle. However, I really want you to be with me.
> I order you (to be with me) as your lord, and I beg
> you as a man. This is my way of love. "
> -MBC Dae Jang-geum
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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LOL, Dom! Now I'll always think of the ya version as
the "aerobic" one!
Anne
--- Dom DiGioia <digioiadom@...> wrote:
> Well, that's the nice thing about a group like
> this...you find out about all sorts of other
> options.
> you folks have been most helpful.
>
> Just think...I will only have to get up to change
> the
> DVD 20 times with this set. If I'd purchased the
> YesAsia version, I'd have to get off the couch 8
> MORE
> TIMES!!! So maybe it's not such a bad deal after
> all.
>
> Dom
>
> --- Chrissandra Hamilton <csh3prodigy@...>
> wrote:
>
> > now, now dom, it's spilled milk @ this point. ;-)
> > u could've asked the same question. :-) now, u
> > know for next time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dom DiGioia <digioiadom@...> wrote:
> > My 20 disc set just arrived. So I guess
> I
> > ended up
> > with the Hong Kong version. I ordered it the day
> > BEFORE you posted your question...Wish you'd
> posted
> > your question a day earlier, I might have waited.
> >
> > Well, not sure when I will have time to watch the
> > series, but I will post my opinion of this set
> when
> > I
> > do.
> >
> > Dom
> >
> > --- Anne Pedersen <aepedersen@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hoping some of those with the Jumong dvds can
> > answer
> > > a
> > > question.
> > >
> > > YesAsia offers preorders for a "US version" of
> 81
> > > episodes, sold in 4 separate volumes, a total of
> > 28
> > > discs.
> > >
> > > AsianDB offers a boxed set of the entire show
> (81
> > > epis) on 20 discs in a Hong Kong version.
> > >
> > > Both have english subtitles; both are region 1
> > > compatible. Can anyone offer an opinion as to
> > > distinctions between the two?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anne
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > > protection around
> > > http://mail.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
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> > protection around
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > C
> > Jang Chae-ok: "I can't see your dream blocked by
> the
> > heavy baggage of me."
> > Hwang-bo Yoon: "A dream that sacrifices you is not
> a
> > dream I wish to have."
> > -MBC Damo
> >
> > King Jung-jong to Dae Jang-geum:
> > "I love you, but I won't make you my concubine,
> > because I don't want you to be involved in a power
> > struggle. However, I really want you to be with
> me.
> > I order you (to be with me) as your lord, and I
> beg
> > you as a man. This is my way of love. "
> > -MBC Dae Jang-geum
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car"
> smell?
> > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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"New North Korean Liquor Coming to U.S."
A traditional North Korean liquor that
is clear and tastes smoother and
sweeter than vodka is expected to hit
the U.S. market...
Read more about it here...
www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-nkorea-us-
liquor,0,5945878.story
(Thanks to Lucy on the Chicago K-Drama
Board for posting the article
http://deiner.proboards48.com/index.cgi)
That makes no damn sense. Which is it, are we against the oppressive regime of
North Korea, are we the oppressive regime or are we all supposed to get drunk
off their liquor and inter-marry until it goes against filial piety to kill your
in-law's! No matter how much you may want to!
betz3424 <betz.mc@...> wrote: "New North Korean Liquor Coming
to U.S."
A traditional North Korean liquor that
is clear and tastes smoother and
sweeter than vodka is expected to hit
the U.S. market...
Read more about it here...
www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-nkorea-us-
liquor,0,5945878.story
(Thanks to Lucy on the Chicago K-Drama
Board for posting the article
http://deiner.proboards48.com/index.cgi)
---------------------------------
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thank you for the information! Keep up the great work!
Frank <chiroronin1@...> wrote: Shawn
Hi
I really appreciate your sense of humor. It's great!
I'll try to answer some of your questions. The sword we use is called
a jin gum. Gum (Kum) means sword Jin is the type of sword. It is hand
forged and has many of the same characteristics of a Japanese sword.
Actually I am more familiar with the forging process of a Japanese
sword as I have studied and collected antique Japanese swords for
many years. The Korean sword lacks the folding process of its
Japanese counterpart but it holds up very well in cutting hard
targets like thick bamboo stalks. A more delicate and lighter Korean
sword is known as a samgakdo and is used for cutting softer targets
like rolls of straw.
Most training consists of cutting through the air. I make at least
500 cuts with different techniques every day. It almost become like a
meditation as the mind and body work in harmony. I try to cut bamboo
as much as I can I just planted a garden in my yard. I also practice
throw cutting techniques in which I toss an object in the air and
then draw and cut it. There are twelve techniques we need to know. I
also like to practice cutting blindfolded.
I also practice sparring techniques with a partner. Sometimes with
out contact and sometimes we put armor on and use jukto (shinai) and
practice full contact. Not many of my classmates do full contact
because it leads to a lot of bruising and can be quite painful if you
are on the receiving end of a successful attack,
I haven't slain any white horses yet nor drank their blood. I have
had a glass or two of soju with my instructor several times.
I don't consider my skills worthy of Bob's taping abilities and
regarding Macrobiotics, I haven't seen Michio Kuchi in years,
although I will be meeting Christina Pirillo tomorrow.
The best Korean swordsman I know in the States is Master Dong Jin
Park and I think Master Jung Woo Kim may be the best in Korea right
now. I think one of the best past swordsmen would have been Hae Mo
Su, if he existed.
Women do study sword technique and I have to admit that they are
often times much more graceful then men. I have seen Korean sword
dance done by women and I am totally amazed by their grace and beauty.
Thanks again Shawn for sharing your gifted wit. Hope to see you soon.
HDH
--- In WangGuhn@yahoogroups.com, shawn williams
<geesehoward4life@...> wrote:
>
> Uhhh-HUM!
> (clears throat)...
>
> FRANK!?
> CONGRATS!!!!
> Now we just need to find you a Khitan Princess and have someone
chase you around for a bit so you can rise to power and take over
Washington!
> -_-
> What? It could happen! I'd love to know about the Korean
swordmaking process. And is there a specific name for a Korean sword?
What about the quality of Korean swords, in comparison to Chinese
swords, in comparison to Japanese swords? Do you secretly slash at
the air when no one is looking only for the mere fun of it? Is there
a Korean sword draw technique that emphasizes drawing from the sheath
like Japanese battojutsu? When you were givin this name, was or will
there be, a ceremony? Sorry to sound idiotic but, will you swear
brotherhood, kill a white horse, and then drink its blood while
vowing to restore the integrity of something, somewhere, within a set
amount of time?
>
> If so, can Bob video tape your adventures since we have been made
aware of his skill with the camera? Can I write about it? Although
random these questions be, do you find yourself headed off to
wherever and constantly reaching for your sword before heading out
the door? Can you now randomly smite the following unabridged list;
brigands, rebels, eunichs, peasants, Choi Choong-hon, attendants,
Chon-su the Sellout from IYSS, wayward people like me who post these
things, the Infamous Wimpy King of IYSS, the person who created the
bad pacing music for DJY, anyone who says that Wakizaka was not one
of the best all-time villains and those... who ascribe to the
religion of MACROBIOTIC FAITH!?
>
> Has anyone timed your sword draw? Who is the best known swordsman
in Korean history and who is regarded as the current master of Korean
swordsmanship? Do women learn swordsmanship? How long did it take for
you to master the sword... and, and this one is key... have you begun
to master... the Art of Korean Drama telepathy? Hmmmm, hmmm, hmm...
>
> Om Mani Padme Hum, Om Mani Padme Hum, OOM MANI PADME HUM!!!!
> I still can't gain ground on the whole mind-reading technique...
> I'm starting to lose faith here! Why do I see an image of all of
the ministers clearing their throats and looking at me funny as they
look around and up in the sky?
>
> With all of my foolishness as well as seriousness, I say to you
Hae Dae-Ho. I could tell when I saw that demonstration a while back
that you have worked very hard to get to where you are. CONGRATS!!!!
And keep striving forward! Continued success, sincerely, Shawn.
>
>
> Frank <chiroronin1@...> wrote:
> Hello all
>
> The World Haidong Gumdo Federation president recently gave me a
Korean
> nick name. This name is engraved on a new sword that was presented
to
> me. My name is Hae Dae-Ho. I'm told that it means Brilliant Great
Tiger.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
---------------------------------
Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Pyongyang Soju, it will make the hair on your head stand up just like Kim
Jong-il
what more enticements do you need?
Bob
--
"In the next life, you're on your own"
http://www.sub-primitive.150m.com/
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: shawn williams <geesehoward4life@...>
> That makes no damn sense. Which is it, are we against the oppressive regime of
> North Korea, are we the oppressive regime or are we all supposed to get drunk
> off their liquor and inter-marry until it goes against filial piety to kill
your
> in-law's! No matter how much you may want to!
>
> betz3424 <betz.mc@...> wrote: "New North Korean Liquor Coming
> to U.S."
>
> A traditional North Korean liquor that
> is clear and tastes smoother and
> sweeter than vodka is expected to hit
> the U.S. market...
>
> Read more about it here...
> www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-nkorea-us-
> liquor,0,5945878.story
>
> (Thanks to Lucy on the Chicago K-Drama
> Board for posting the article
> http://deiner.proboards48.com/index.cgi)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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