LOL I forgot that Toral was on that season. LOL  And Melissa. Wasn't she on Dr.
Phil after her outburst/breakdown on the Apprentice?





--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> The media ran away with this story, but Randal has stated that he will not be
seeking any public office right now.  But at least this article is correct in
that Randal was/is on a short list of those considered for the position.
>
> As far as the "intimidating, highly educated competitors" comment, that is so
typical of Trump to say, but the reality is that the candidates of Season 4,
other than Randal and very few other exceptions, were all kind of pathetic.  I
mean is that how Trump would describe Toral?  Or Melissa?  LOL.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/19/09, drakingson <drakingson@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: drakingson <drakingson@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Randal Pinkett Considered for Lt. Gov of NJ
> To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 3:54 AM
>
>
>
> Is fantastically even a word?  "intimidating highly educated competitors"??? I
think Trump has lost it. I didn't find many to fit this description except
Marshawn or Clay.
>
>
> --- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, George <xslider.geo@> wrote:
> >
> > Donald Trump backs 'Apprentice' Randal Pinkett for N.J. lieutenant governor
> > by The Associated Press
> > Wednesday July 15, 2009, 9:15 AM
> > ATLANTIC CITY -- Donald Trump said a former winner of his TV reality show
would do "fantastically" as New Jersey's lieutenant governor.
> >
> > Randal Pinkett is among the names being considered by Gov. Jon Corzine as a
running mate in the November election contest with former U.S. Attorney Chris
Christie. Pinkett is a Somerset County businessman who won Season 4 of "The
Apprentice."
> >
> > Trump, the real estate and casino mogul, said Pinkett emerged as the leader
of a group of intimidating, highly educated competitors by using charm instead
of pressure.
> >
> > Trump told The Associated Press Pinkett "didn't do it with the stick."
> >
> > Trump won't say whether he has spoken with Pinkett about the No. 2 job, but
added the Rhodes scholar is a tremendous leader.
> >
> > http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/donald_trump_backs_apprentice.html
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Omarasa Becomes an Apprentice to the Lord
http://www.realitytvfans.com/2009/08/19/omarasa-becomes-an-apprentice-to-the-lor\
d.html

The media ran away with this story, but Randal has stated that he will not be
seeking any public office right now.� But at least this article is correct in
that Randal was/is on a short list of those considered for the position.
�
As far as the "intimidating, highly educated competitors" comment, that is so
typical of Trump to say, but the reality is that the candidates of Season 4,
other than Randal and very few other exceptions, were all kind of pathetic.� I
mean is that how Trump would describe Toral?� Or Melissa?� LOL.


--- On Wed, 8/19/09, drakingson <drakingson@...> wrote:


From: drakingson <drakingson@...>
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Randal Pinkett Considered for Lt. Gov of NJ
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 3:54 AM



Is fantastically even a word?� "intimidating highly educated competitors"??? I
think Trump has lost it. I didn't find many to fit this description except
Marshawn or Clay.�


--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:
>
> Donald Trump backs 'Apprentice' Randal Pinkett for N.J. lieutenant governor
> by The Associated Press
> Wednesday July 15, 2009, 9:15 AM
> ATLANTIC CITY -- Donald Trump said a former winner of his TV reality show
would do "fantastically" as New Jersey's lieutenant governor.
>�
> Randal Pinkett is among the names being considered by Gov. Jon Corzine as a
running mate in the November election contest with former U.S. Attorney Chris
Christie. Pinkett is a Somerset County businessman who won Season 4 of "The
Apprentice."
>�
> Trump, the real estate and casino mogul, said Pinkett emerged as the leader of
a group of intimidating, highly educated competitors by using charm instead of
pressure.
>
> Trump told The Associated Press Pinkett "didn't do it with the stick."
>�
> Trump won't say whether he has spoken with Pinkett about the No. 2 job, but
added the Rhodes scholar is a tremendous leader.
>
> http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/donald_trump_backs_apprentice.html
>

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Good lord (no pun intended), what is her motive for doing this?  Is she trying
to destroy this church now that she has destroyed reality TV?  Maybe she wants
to get her own talk show or write a line of books?


--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:
>
> From the Dayton (Ohio) Daily News
>
>
http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/womenslife/\
entries/2009/08/13/omarosa_to_enter_seminary_in_d.html
>
> Omarosa to enter seminary in Dayton
> By Kim Margolis | Thursday, August 13, 2009, 05:06 PM
> �
> Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth, one of the most notorious villains in reality TV
history is entering United Theological Seminary in Dayton on Monday, Aug. 17.
> �
> Stallworth will pursue a doctor of ministry, which will take about two years
to complete, said Ivan Hicks, UTC associate dean for African-American studies.
> �
> “She has expressed a calling in her life and it is our opportunity to
provide leadership and guidance as she makes a transformation,” Hicks said.
“We’re excited about her coming to school at UTS.”
> �
> Stallworth is known for in-your-face roles on “The Apprentice,” “The
Celebrity Apprentice” and “The Surreal Life.”
> �
> But Hicks knows her from his home church, The Metropolitan Baptist Church in
Washington, D.C. He said she has worked on issues involving the homeless and the
poor in Haiti.
> �
> “She certainly has a heart for ministry,” Hicks said.
> �
> Stallworth received her undergraduate degree from Central State University.
> �
> Hicks said the fact that Stallworth’s had her ups and downs will help make
her a good minister.
> �
> “Some of the good things and bad things we’ve done in our lives help us to
actually relate and to be more widely accepted as a minister,” he said.� �
> � "Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will
stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-improving path.
You know you will never get to the end of the journey. But this, so far from
discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb." - Sir Winston
Churchill
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Is fantastically even a word?  "intimidating highly educated competitors"??? I
think Trump has lost it. I didn't find many to fit this description except
Marshawn or Clay.


--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:
>
> Donald Trump backs 'Apprentice' Randal Pinkett for N.J. lieutenant governor
> by The Associated Press
> Wednesday July 15, 2009, 9:15 AM
> ATLANTIC CITY -- Donald Trump said a former winner of his TV reality show
would do "fantastically" as New Jersey's lieutenant governor.
>
> Randal Pinkett is among the names being considered by Gov. Jon Corzine as a
running mate in the November election contest with former U.S. Attorney Chris
Christie. Pinkett is a Somerset County businessman who won Season 4 of "The
Apprentice."
>
> Trump, the real estate and casino mogul, said Pinkett emerged as the leader of
a group of intimidating, highly educated competitors by using charm instead of
pressure.
>
> Trump told The Associated Press Pinkett "didn't do it with the stick."
>
> Trump won't say whether he has spoken with Pinkett about the No. 2 job, but
added the Rhodes scholar is a tremendous leader.
>
> http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/donald_trump_backs_apprentice.html
>
>  "We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

From the Dayton (Ohio) Daily News

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/womenslife/\
entries/2009/08/13/omarosa_to_enter_seminary_in_d.html

Omarosa to enter seminary in Dayton
By Kim Margolis | Thursday, August 13, 2009, 05:06 PM
 
Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth, one of the most notorious villains in reality TV
history is entering United Theological Seminary in Dayton on Monday, Aug. 17.
 
Stallworth will pursue a doctor of ministry, which will take about two years to
complete, said Ivan Hicks, UTC associate dean for African-American studies.
 
“She has expressed a calling in her life and it is our opportunity to provide
leadership and guidance as she makes a transformation,” Hicks said. “We’re
excited about her coming to school at UTS.”
 
Stallworth is known for in-your-face roles on “The Apprentice,” “The
Celebrity Apprentice” and “The Surreal Life.”
 
But Hicks knows her from his home church, The Metropolitan Baptist Church in
Washington, D.C. He said she has worked on issues involving the homeless and the
poor in Haiti.
 
“She certainly has a heart for ministry,” Hicks said.
 
Stallworth received her undergraduate degree from Central State University.
 
Hicks said the fact that Stallworth’s had her ups and downs will help make her
a good minister.
 
“Some of the good things and bad things we’ve done in our lives help us to
actually relate and to be more widely accepted as a minister,” he said.  
 "Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will
stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-improving path.
You know you will never get to the end of the journey. But this, so far from
discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb." - Sir Winston
Churchill




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Donald Trump backs 'Apprentice' Randal Pinkett for N.J. lieutenant governor
by The Associated Press
Wednesday July 15, 2009, 9:15 AM
ATLANTIC CITY -- Donald Trump said a former winner of his TV reality show would
do "fantastically" as New Jersey's lieutenant governor.
�
Randal Pinkett is among the names being considered by Gov. Jon Corzine as a
running mate in the November election contest with former U.S. Attorney Chris
Christie. Pinkett is a Somerset County businessman who won Season 4 of "The
Apprentice."
�
Trump, the real estate and casino mogul, said Pinkett emerged as the leader of a
group of intimidating, highly educated competitors by using charm instead of
pressure.

Trump told The Associated Press Pinkett "didn't do it with the stick."
�
Trump won't say whether he has spoken with Pinkett about the No. 2 job, but
added the Rhodes scholar is a tremendous leader.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/donald_trump_backs_apprentice.html

�"We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I was watching Kathy Griffin's "My Life On The D-List" (Kathy appeared on the
Celebrity Apprentice finale and is a good friend of Joan Rivers) and watched how
she lobbied the Grammy people for a nomination for best comedy album. She
informs us that only two women have won a Grammy for best comedy album in the 60
year history of the show!!!  I found this fact to be very disturbing even more
disturbing than Annie Duke. I know a lot of funny ladies in fact most of my role
models growing up were funny ladies (no not Babs)like Gilda Radner,Mary Tyler
Moore, Carol Burnett, Joan Rivers, Roseanne Barr, Lilly Tomlin, Jane Curtain,
Loraine Newman, and a host of others.  They formed a good portion of my sense of
humor and personality.  I can't believe these people couldn't find more than two
women in over sixty years who could make people laugh. It's an outrage,
seriously!!!  We all should be marching the streets and demanding that this be
changed.


Ok my point is that I hope Joan records a comedy album this year and it
campaigns to get a Grammy next year.  With her success on the Celebrity
Apprentice I am sure people would be receptive to the idea.
And I think the Grammys should award those women I have mentioned above lifetime
achievement awards for their comedy albums.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20285302,00.html?xid=rss-topheadline
s
excerpt:
Denying a recent report that said Baldwin's 1.4-acre property outside N.Y.
city is being put up for public auction on June 24, Brad Taylor, Baldwin's
representative, says that's not the case.

"Stephen is presently going through a legal situation regarding his mortgage
and that situation is still in process. No auction will be happening and all
things related to this matter are being handled by his legal
representation," Taylor tells PEOPLE.com
- Vickie Bane


"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that
will be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour



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d=11735/stime=1245257829/nc1=3858793/nc2=5758223/nc3=5522130>




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All of this is speculation since we don't know first hand what Stephen's
financial situation is. He could owe more on the house than it is worth and more
than he should pay back this making bankruptcy necessary. But whatever the case
may be it doesn't help when newspapers only provide us with a little piece of
information in order to create drama and increase sales. I hope his foreclosure
will improve his financial and personal situation but it has been my experience
that a foreclosure is never the best option except in a small percentage of the
cases. I do hope that he sough some type of financial/pre-foreclosure counseling
that might have prevented this. So many people don't realize that there are ways
to prevent foreclosure like having another investor take over the mortgage
payments and eventually buying the house from the owner (at a loss).  You lose a
lot of the equity that you have in the house but it is better than having a
foreclosure on your record and needing up with nothing. The investor basically
pays the bank what is owed on the house and if there is anything left the owner
gets it.



--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> Everyone owes more on their house than it's worth.�  That's the nature of
borrowing.
> �
> In the article, does it say that Baldwin made this "business decision"?� � If
not,� then why is it fair to make that assumption?�
> �
> So again, how can he "take" $850K to buy a new home?�  He can't necessarily.
> �
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Marg <redriver1991@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Marg <redriver1991@...>
> Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off
> To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 2:05 PM
>
>
> You are right in that it is "over $824,000" and not $850K.�  However,
regarding the rest you are making the assumption that he does not have the money
to pay his mortgage.�  I think he does have the money but is making a decision
to not waste it by paying a mortgage on a house that is not worth what is owed
on it.�  Baldwin does not "owe" the $824K.�  Rather, he has defaulted on "more
than $824,000 in mortgage payments".�  He had tried, unsuccessfully, to sell the
house in 2006.�  So, he obviously has wanted out of the house for several
years.�  If he has not been paying the mortgage but has been working and earning
a living he may well have the money to pay for his house, but is making a
business decision *not to pay the mortgage*.�  Many people do this.�  If one
paid too much for a house or if what is owed on a house is more than the house
is actually worth, it makes sense to stay in the property, save one's money
while letting the property go into
>  foreclosure.�  Then take the money one has saved by not paying the mortgage
and then either rent or buy a less expensive house for cash.�  Why keep making
payments on a house that you don't really want.�  Let the bank have it and move
on with your life.�  I believe that is what Stephen Baldwin is doing.
> Marguerite
>
>
> "There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that will
be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour
>
>
>
> �  _____�
>
> From: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of gad
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:19
> To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off
>
>
>
>
>
> Take what $850K?�  You mean the $824K that he OWES?�  He can't do anything
with money that he doesn't have, that's the reason he's in foreclosure in the
first place.�  And he might actually be staying in his house as long as
possible.
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Marg <redriver1991@ <mailto:redriver1991%40att.net>
att.net> wrote:
>
> From: Marg <redriver1991@ <mailto:redriver1991%40att.net> att.net>
> Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 1:02 PM
>
> Maybe he just made a business decision to let the house go. A smart person
might simply stay in their house as long as possible and then, upon eviction,
either rent an apartment in the newly degraded rental market of NYC or take that
$850K and buy another house for cash.�  Stephen Baldwin strikes me as a smart
person.
> Marguerite
>
> "There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that will
be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour
>
> �  _____�
>
> From: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Apprentice@
<mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
drakingson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 00:01
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off
>
> That is very very sad!!! I don't know why he couldn't afford a %50k home to
begin with??? There was a time when he was making 500k a picture. It makes you
wonder what happened to his money from all of the pictures he's made??? But
really how does someone owe 850k in payments. He must have had a second mortgage
on the place. Otherwise I would have suggested foreclosure counseling. A good
investor could have sold it for him without having to go through foreclosure. It
makes me sad though. Where is he living now? I mean I would feel bad if he was
living in a crappy apartment somewhere. Maybe Alec can put him up in his
mansion. Why hasn't he found Stephen a job on 30 Rock?
>
> --- In The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't particularly like Stephen Baldwin and thought he came off as a goof
on Celebrity Apprentice 1, and kind of an arrogant jerk on the hotel task on
Celebrity Apprentice 2. However, I do think this is a shame that his home is
being foreclosed as I don't wish bad on him or anything. I wonder how his
situation got to that point, but on the other hand he's a celebrity but
certainly not an A-list celebrity or anything, and that area is outrageously
priced with high taxes and high cost-of-living.Â
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 6/13/09, George <xslider.geo@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: George <xslider.geo@>
> > Subject: [The_Apprentice] Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off
> > To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:01 PM
> >
> >
> > NEW YORK â€" Actor Stephen Baldwin's foreclosed home in the suburbs north
of New York City will be publicly auctioned. Baldwin paid $515,000 for the
1.4-acre home in Rockland County in 1997. In 2006, he tried unsuccessfully to
sell it. County filings show Baldwin and his wife Kennya defaulted on more than
$824,000 in payments to mortgage holder Bankers Trust Co. The auction is set
for June 24. A representative for Baldwin couldn't be reached for comment. The
actor has starred in movies such as "Bio-Dome" and "The Usual Suspects."
Recently, he's appeared on reality television shows "The Celebrity Apprentice"
and "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"
> >
> > Go to the story
> > http://news. <http://news.
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin>
yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin>
yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Everyone owes more on their house than it's worth.  That's the nature of
borrowing.
 
In the article, does it say that Baldwin made this "business decision"?  If
not, then why is it fair to make that assumption? 
 
So again, how can he "take" $850K to buy a new home?  He can't necessarily.
 


--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Marg <redriver1991@...> wrote:


From: Marg <redriver1991@...>
Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 2:05 PM


You are right in that it is "over $824,000" and not $850K.  However, regarding
the rest you are making the assumption that he does not have the money to pay
his mortgage.  I think he does have the money but is making a decision to not
waste it by paying a mortgage on a house that is not worth what is owed on it. 
Baldwin does not "owe" the $824K.  Rather, he has defaulted on "more than
$824,000 in mortgage payments".  He had tried, unsuccessfully, to sell the
house in 2006.  So, he obviously has wanted out of the house for several
years.  If he has not been paying the mortgage but has been working and earning
a living he may well have the money to pay for his house, but is making a
business decision *not to pay the mortgage*.  Many people do this.  If one
paid too much for a house or if what is owed on a house is more than the house
is actually worth, it makes sense to stay in the property, save one's money
while letting the property go into
  foreclosure.  Then take the money one has saved by not paying the mortgage and
then either rent or buy a less expensive house for cash.  Why keep making
payments on a house that you don't really want.  Let the bank have it and move
on with your life.  I believe that is what Stephen Baldwin is doing.
Marguerite


"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that will
be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour



  _____ 

From: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of gad
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:19
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off





Take what $850K?  You mean the $824K that he OWES?  He can't do anything with
money that he doesn't have, that's the reason he's in foreclosure in the first
place.  And he might actually be staying in his house as long as possible.




--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Marg <redriver1991@ <mailto:redriver1991%40att.net>
att.net> wrote:

From: Marg <redriver1991@ <mailto:redriver1991%40att.net> att.net>
Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off
To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 1:02 PM

Maybe he just made a business decision to let the house go. A smart person might
simply stay in their house as long as possible and then, upon eviction, either
rent an apartment in the newly degraded rental market of NYC or take that $850K
and buy another house for cash.  Stephen Baldwin strikes me as a smart person.
Marguerite

"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that will
be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour

  _____ 

From: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
[mailto:The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of drakingson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 00:01
To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off

That is very very sad!!! I don't know why he couldn't afford a %50k home to
begin with??? There was a time when he was making 500k a picture. It makes you
wonder what happened to his money from all of the pictures he's made??? But
really how does someone owe 850k in payments. He must have had a second mortgage
on the place. Otherwise I would have suggested foreclosure counseling. A good
investor could have sold it for him without having to go through foreclosure. It
makes me sad though. Where is he living now? I mean I would feel bad if he was
living in a crappy apartment somewhere. Maybe Alec can put him up in his
mansion. Why hasn't he found Stephen a job on 30 Rock?

--- In The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> I don't particularly like Stephen Baldwin and thought he came off as a goof on
Celebrity Apprentice 1, and kind of an arrogant jerk on the hotel task on
Celebrity Apprentice 2. However, I do think this is a shame that his home is
being foreclosed as I don't wish bad on him or anything. I wonder how his
situation got to that point, but on the other hand he's a celebrity but
certainly not an A-list celebrity or anything, and that area is outrageously
priced with high taxes and high cost-of-living.Â
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/13/09, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: George <xslider.geo@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be Auctioned
Off
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:01 PM
>
>
> NEW YORK â€" Actor Stephen Baldwin's foreclosed home in the suburbs north
of New York City will be publicly auctioned. Baldwin paid $515,000 for the
1.4-acre home in Rockland County in 1997. In 2006, he tried unsuccessfully to
sell it. County filings show Baldwin and his wife Kennya defaulted on more than
$824,000 in payments to mortgage holder Bankers Trust Co. The auction is set
for June 24. A representative for Baldwin couldn't be reached for comment. The
actor has starred in movies such as "Bio-Dome" and "The Usual Suspects."
Recently, he's appeared on reality television shows "The Celebrity Apprentice"
and "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"
>
> Go to the story
> http://news. <http://news.
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin>
yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin>
yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin
>
>

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You are right in that it is "over $824,000" and not $850K.  However, regarding
the rest you are making the assumption that he does not have the money to pay
his mortgage.  I think he does have the money but is making a decision to not
waste it by paying a mortgage on a house that is not worth what is owed on it. 
Baldwin does not "owe" the $824K.  Rather, he has defaulted on "more than
$824,000 in mortgage payments".  He had tried, unsuccessfully, to sell the house
in 2006.  So, he obviously has wanted out of the house for several years.  If he
has not been paying the mortgage but has been working and earning a living he
may well have the money to pay for his house, but is making a business decision
*not to pay the mortgage*.  Many people do this.  If one paid too much for a
house or if what is owed on a house is more than the house is actually worth, it
makes sense to stay in the property, save one's money while letting the property
go into foreclosure.  Then take the money one has saved by not paying the
mortgage and then either rent or buy a less expensive house for cash.  Why keep
making payments on a house that you don't really want.  Let the bank have it and
move on with your life.  I believe that is what Stephen Baldwin is doing.
Marguerite


"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that will
be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour



   _____

From: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of gad
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:19
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off





Take what $850K?  You mean the $824K that he OWES?  He can't do anything with
money that he doesn't have, that's the reason he's in foreclosure in the first
place.  And he might actually be staying in his house as long as possible.




--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Marg <redriver1991@ <mailto:redriver1991%40att.net>
att.net> wrote:

From: Marg <redriver1991@ <mailto:redriver1991%40att.net> att.net>
Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off
To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 1:02 PM

Maybe he just made a business decision to let the house go. A smart person might
simply stay in their house as long as possible and then, upon eviction, either
rent an apartment in the newly degraded rental market of NYC or take that $850K
and buy another house for cash.  Stephen Baldwin strikes me as a smart person.
Marguerite

"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that will
be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour

   _____

From: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
[mailto:The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of drakingson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 00:01
To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off

That is very very sad!!! I don't know why he couldn't afford a %50k home to
begin with??? There was a time when he was making 500k a picture. It makes you
wonder what happened to his money from all of the pictures he's made??? But
really how does someone owe 850k in payments. He must have had a second mortgage
on the place. Otherwise I would have suggested foreclosure counseling. A good
investor could have sold it for him without having to go through foreclosure. It
makes me sad though. Where is he living now? I mean I would feel bad if he was
living in a crappy apartment somewhere. Maybe Alec can put him up in his
mansion. Why hasn't he found Stephen a job on 30 Rock?

--- In The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> I don't particularly like Stephen Baldwin and thought he came off as a goof on
Celebrity Apprentice 1, and kind of an arrogant jerk on the hotel task on
Celebrity Apprentice 2. However, I do think this is a shame that his home is
being foreclosed as I don't wish bad on him or anything. I wonder how his
situation got to that point, but on the other hand he's a celebrity but
certainly not an A-list celebrity or anything, and that area is outrageously
priced with high taxes and high cost-of-living.Â
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/13/09, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: George <xslider.geo@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be Auctioned
Off
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:01 PM
>
>
> NEW YORK â€" Actor Stephen Baldwin's foreclosed home in the suburbs north
of New York City will be publicly auctioned. Baldwin paid $515,000 for the
1.4-acre home in Rockland County in 1997. In 2006, he tried unsuccessfully to
sell it. County filings show Baldwin and his wife Kennya defaulted on more than
$824,000 in payments to mortgage holder Bankers Trust Co. The auction is set
for June 24. A representative for Baldwin couldn't be reached for comment. The
actor has starred in movies such as "Bio-Dome" and "The Usual Suspects."
Recently, he's appeared on reality television shows "The Celebrity Apprentice"
and "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"
>
> Go to the story
> http://news. <http://news.
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin>
yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin>
yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Take what $850K?  You mean the $824K that he OWES?  He can't do anything with
money that he doesn't have, that's the reason he's in foreclosure in the first
place.  And he might actually be staying in his house as long as possible.
 
 
 


--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Marg <redriver1991@...> wrote:


From: Marg <redriver1991@...>
Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 1:02 PM


Maybe he just made a business decision to let the house go. A smart person might
simply stay in their house as long as possible and then, upon eviction, either
rent an apartment in the newly degraded rental market of NYC or take that $850K
and buy another house for cash.  Stephen Baldwin strikes me as a smart person.
Marguerite


"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that will
be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour



  _____ 

From: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of drakingson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 00:01
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off





That is very very sad!!! I don't know why he couldn't afford a %50k home to
begin with??? There was a time when he was making 500k a picture. It makes you
wonder what happened to his money from all of the pictures he's made??? But
really how does someone owe 850k in payments. He must have had a second mortgage
on the place. Otherwise I would have suggested foreclosure counseling. A good
investor could have sold it for him without having to go through foreclosure. It
makes me sad though. Where is he living now? I mean I would feel bad if he was
living in a crappy apartment somewhere. Maybe Alec can put him up in his
mansion. Why hasn't he found Stephen a job on 30 Rock?

--- In The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> I don't particularly like Stephen Baldwin and thought he came off as a goof on
Celebrity Apprentice 1, and kind of an arrogant jerk on the hotel task on
Celebrity Apprentice 2. However, I do think this is a shame that his home is
being foreclosed as I don't wish bad on him or anything. I wonder how his
situation got to that point, but on the other hand he's a celebrity but
certainly not an A-list celebrity or anything, and that area is outrageously
priced with high taxes and high cost-of-living.Â
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/13/09, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: George <xslider.geo@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be Auctioned
Off
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:01 PM
>
>
> NEW YORK â€" Actor Stephen Baldwin's foreclosed home in the suburbs north
of New York City will be publicly auctioned. Baldwin paid $515,000 for the
1.4-acre home in Rockland County in 1997. In 2006, he tried unsuccessfully to
sell it. County filings show Baldwin and his wife Kennya defaulted on more than
$824,000 in payments to mortgage holder Bankers Trust Co. The auction is set
for June 24. A representative for Baldwin couldn't be reached for comment. The
actor has starred in movies such as "Bio-Dome" and "The Usual Suspects."
Recently, he's appeared on reality television shows "The Celebrity Apprentice"
and "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"
>
> Go to the story
> http://news.
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin>
yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Maybe he just made a business decision to let the house go. A smart person might
simply stay in their house as long as possible and then, upon eviction, either
rent an apartment in the newly degraded rental market of NYC or take that $850K
and buy another house for cash.  Stephen Baldwin strikes me as a smart person.
Marguerite


"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that will
be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour



   _____

From: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of drakingson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 00:01
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be
Auctioned Off





That is very very sad!!! I don't know why he couldn't afford a %50k home to
begin with??? There was a time when he was making 500k a picture. It makes you
wonder what happened to his money from all of the pictures he's made??? But
really how does someone owe 850k in payments. He must have had a second mortgage
on the place. Otherwise I would have suggested foreclosure counseling. A good
investor could have sold it for him without having to go through foreclosure. It
makes me sad though. Where is he living now? I mean I would feel bad if he was
living in a crappy apartment somewhere. Maybe Alec can put him up in his
mansion. Why hasn't he found Stephen a job on 30 Rock?

--- In The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> I don't particularly like Stephen Baldwin and thought he came off as a goof on
Celebrity Apprentice 1, and kind of an arrogant jerk on the hotel task on
Celebrity Apprentice 2. However, I do think this is a shame that his home is
being foreclosed as I don't wish bad on him or anything. I wonder how his
situation got to that point, but on the other hand he's a celebrity but
certainly not an A-list celebrity or anything, and that area is outrageously
priced with high taxes and high cost-of-living.Â
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/13/09, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: George <xslider.geo@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be Auctioned
Off
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:01 PM
>
>
> NEW YORK â€" Actor Stephen Baldwin's foreclosed home in the suburbs north
of New York City will be publicly auctioned. Baldwin paid $515,000 for the
1.4-acre home in Rockland County in 1997. In 2006, he tried unsuccessfully to
sell it. County filings show Baldwin and his wife Kennya defaulted on more than
$824,000 in payments to mortgage holder Bankers Trust Co. The auction is set
for June 24. A representative for Baldwin couldn't be reached for comment. The
actor has starred in movies such as "Bio-Dome" and "The Usual Suspects."
Recently, he's appeared on reality television shows "The Celebrity Apprentice"
and "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"
>
> Go to the story
> http://news.
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin>
yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

That is very very sad!!!  I don't know why he couldn't afford a %50k home to
begin with??? There was a time when he was making 500k a picture. It makes you
wonder what happened to his money from all of the pictures he's made???  But
really how does someone owe 850k in payments. He must have had a second mortgage
on the place.  Otherwise I would have suggested foreclosure counseling. A good
investor could have sold it for him without having to go through foreclosure. It
makes me sad though. Where is he living now? I mean I would feel bad if he was
living in a crappy apartment somewhere. Maybe Alec can put him up in his
mansion. Why hasn't he found Stephen a job on 30 Rock?





--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> I don't particularly like Stephen Baldwin and thought he came off as a goof on
Celebrity Apprentice 1, and kind of an arrogant jerk on the hotel task on
Celebrity Apprentice 2.�  However, I do think this is a shame that his home is
being foreclosed as I don't wish bad on him or anything.�  I wonder how his
situation got to that point, but on the other hand he's a celebrity but
certainly not an A-list celebrity or anything, and that area is outrageously
priced with high taxes and high cost-of-living.�
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/13/09, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: George <xslider.geo@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be Auctioned
Off
> To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:01 PM
>
>
> NEW YORK �" Actor Stephen Baldwin's foreclosed home in the suburbs north of
New York City will be publicly auctioned. Baldwin paid $515,000 for the 1.4-acre
home in Rockland County in 1997. In 2006, he tried unsuccessfully to sell it.
County filings show Baldwin and his wife Kennya defaulted on more than $824,000
in payments to mortgage holder Bankers Trust Co.�  The auction is set for June
24. A representative for Baldwin couldn't be reached for comment. The actor has
starred in movies such as "Bio-Dome" and "The Usual Suspects." Recently, he's
appeared on reality television shows "The Celebrity Apprentice" and "I'm a
Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"
>
> Go to the story
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Annie said "You can't let your emotions dictate your actions" yet she was guilty
of that herself, letting Joan get under her skin.� Does Annie even realize how
stupid she sounds?� She says that she "never reacted" to Joan.� LOL -
what-ever.� I can't believe that she is still saying that.
�


--- On Sat, 6/13/09, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:


From: George <xslider.geo@...>
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke Says Playing Poker is Like Running a
Business
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:22 PM


From The Las Vegas Review-Journal

http://www.lvrj.com/news/47992831.html

Jun. 13, 2009
Copyright � Las Vegas Review-Journal�

Poker ace Annie Duke keeps emotions at bay

Appearance on 'Celebrity Apprentice' brought her a new legion of fans

By HOWARD STUTZ
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL�

�

Annie Duke plays during this year's special 40th annual No-Limit Hold'em $40,000
Tournament at the Rio. The event draws some of the biggest names in poker.�
Photo by John Gurzinski�






Annie Duke treats poker like business.


She thinks it's a lesson business people should follow.

"You can't let your emotions dictate your actions," Duke said. "You will always
lose. In poker and business, you see people reacting with emotion. It's
important not to react to something, but to plan your next move."

Duke, 43, is arguably one of the most successful female poker
players on the circuit, and she is popular among poker fans. She's been playing
in the World Series of Poker since 1994 and has cashed in 37 events, earning
more than $1.13 million through this year's tournament at the Rio.


In 2004, Duke won an Omaha High-Low event for her first World Series of Poker
champion's bracelet.

Her best finish in the tournament's $10,000 buy-in no-limit hold'em Main Event
was in 2000 when she placed 10th and won $52,160.

"I'll probably play in about 15 or 20 events at the World Series," Duke said.
"It's a long haul."

Duke drafted a new legion of fans and followers as a contestant on the recently
concluded television series "The Celebrity Apprentice."� She was one of 16
personalities trying to raise money for charity while trying not be fired by the
host, billionaire real estate developer Donald Trump.


Duke finished second ahead of sports stars Scott Hamilton, Natalie Gulbis,
Dennis Rodman and Hershel Walker, country singer Clint Black, comedians Andrew
"Dice" Clay and Tom Green, and motorcycle designer Jesse James.� But it was her
acrimonious verbal battles with comedienne Joan Rivers, the show's eventual
winner, that had audiences watching and
drove the show's ratings skyward.

At times during the episodes, Rivers said Duke was worse than
"Hitler" and compared poker players to members of the Mafia. The comments raised
the ire of the poker community, including World Series of Poker Commissioner
Jeffrey Pollack, who told media last month that he was looking forward to a
woman winning the tournament's Main Event title, "unless that woman happens to
be Joan Rivers."

As part of the contestants' final task, Duke raised hundreds of
thousands of dollars for her charity, Refugees International, mainly through her
connections in the poker community.

Reflecting on how the show played out, Duke said she was able to dispel Rivers'
stereotyping of poker players. Both Duke and Trump said "Celebrity Apprentice"
raised more than $1.5 million for various charities, and poker players played a
big part in the fund-raising efforts.


Duke believes Rivers owes poker players and Las Vegas an apology.

"Poker is a legitimate profession," said Duke, who is a graduate of Columbia
University with degrees in psychology and English. She also spent five years
working toward a doctorate at the University of Pennsylvania in cognitive
psychology, which she set aside. Divorced, Duke is the mother of four children,
ranging in age from 7 to 14.

"Most of us are math nerds," Duke said. "But poker players are very charitable
and concerned about the community. That wasn't how Joan portrayed us."

By finishing ahead of most of the show's more well-known
celebrities, Duke showed her business abilities, such as being able to think
quickly on her feet in order to complete a task when the contestants had only
hours or minutes to come up with a solution.


"I never reacted to Joan, which is how I play at the poker table,"
Duke said. "You learn quickly to let things slide off your back and not react
emotionally. That also works well in business."

Duke's management skills impressed Trump.

"I think Annie did a lot for the image of poker players," Trump
said. "She's extremely talented, and we saw that right from the first task."

As for the animosity between Duke and Rivers on the show, Trump� said it was
real and not the result of creative editing or acting skills.

"It was major hatred and dislike," Trump said. "No one is that good an actress."


Pollack thought Duke's participation on "Celebrity Apprentice" gave poker a new
audience.

"The fact that a poker player at all, but certainly a poker player
of any stature, is on 'Celebrity Apprentice,' is a quantum leap forward for the
mainstreaming of poker into our pop culture," Pollack said. "I think Annie is
representing poker players beautifully."

Long before "Celebrity Apprentice," Duke was well known for her charitable
endeavors. Through poker events, she has raised millions for children's
hospitals and educational foundations.


In 2007, she and actor Don Cheadle established the Ante Up For Africa event, a
$5,000 buy-in no-limit hold'em game that raises funds for the survivors of the
humanitarian crisis in Dafur, Sudan. The event attracts both Hollywood
celebrities and poker's elite. Last year's game raised almost $500,000 for the
cause.

Duke is also an activist on Capitol Hill in trying to change the
federal law outlawing Internet wagering. She is one of the founding members of
the Poker Players Alliance, which supports making online poker a legal activity.
Duke can recite contradictions in federal regulations better than most
Washington, D.C., lobbyists.

"It's not a poker issue, it's a civil liberties issue," Duke said. "It's about
adults being allowed to do adult things."
Despite her success, Duke doesn't consider herself a trailblazer for female
poker players.

"For a while, it might have seemed like myself and Jennifer Harman were the only
women out there," Duke said. "The lines have blurred as to what sex someone is,
but it will be a huge deal the first time a woman wins the Main Event."

Contact reporter Howard Stutz at hstutz@... or 702-477-3871.

"We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley




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I don't particularly like Stephen Baldwin and thought he came off as a goof on
Celebrity Apprentice 1, and kind of an arrogant jerk on the hotel task on
Celebrity Apprentice 2.  However, I do think this is a shame that his home is
being foreclosed as I don't wish bad on him or anything.  I wonder how his
situation got to that point, but on the other hand he's a celebrity but
certainly not an A-list celebrity or anything, and that area is outrageously
priced with high taxes and high cost-of-living. 


--- On Sat, 6/13/09, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:


From: George <xslider.geo@...>
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Stephen Baldwin's Foreclosed NY Home to be Auctioned
Off
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:01 PM


NEW YORK – Actor Stephen Baldwin's foreclosed home in the suburbs north of New
York City will be publicly auctioned. Baldwin paid $515,000 for the 1.4-acre
home in Rockland County in 1997. In 2006, he tried unsuccessfully to sell it.
County filings show Baldwin and his wife Kennya defaulted on more than $824,000
in payments to mortgage holder Bankers Trust Co.  The auction is set for June
24. A representative for Baldwin couldn't be reached for comment. The actor has
starred in movies such as "Bio-Dome" and "The Usual Suspects." Recently, he's
appeared on reality television shows "The Celebrity Apprentice" and "I'm a
Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"

Go to the story
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

From The Las Vegas Review-Journal

http://www.lvrj.com/news/47992831.html

Jun. 13, 2009
Copyright � Las Vegas Review-Journal

Poker ace Annie Duke keeps emotions at bay

Appearance on 'Celebrity Apprentice' brought her a new legion of fans

By HOWARD STUTZ
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL



Annie
Duke plays during this year's special 40th annual No-Limit Hold'em
$40,000 Tournament at the Rio. The event draws some of the biggest
names in poker.
Photo by John Gurzinski






Annie Duke treats poker like business.


She thinks it's a lesson business people should follow.

"You
can't let your emotions dictate your actions," Duke said. "You will
always lose. In poker and business, you see people reacting with
emotion. It's important not to react to something, but to plan your
next move."

Duke, 43, is arguably one of the most successful female poker
players on the circuit, and she is popular among poker fans. She's been
playing in the World Series of Poker since 1994 and has cashed in 37
events, earning more than $1.13 million through this year's tournament
at the Rio.


In 2004, Duke won an Omaha High-Low event for her first World Series of Poker
champion's bracelet.

Her best finish in the tournament's $10,000 buy-in no-limit hold'em Main Event
was in 2000 when she placed 10th and won $52,160.

"I'll probably play in about 15 or 20 events at the World Series," Duke said.
"It's a long haul."

Duke drafted a new legion of fans and followers as a contestant on
the recently concluded television series "The Celebrity Apprentice."
She was one of 16 personalities trying to raise money for charity while
trying not be fired by the host, billionaire real estate developer
Donald Trump.


Duke finished second ahead of sports stars Scott Hamilton, Natalie
Gulbis, Dennis Rodman and Hershel Walker, country singer Clint Black,
comedians Andrew "Dice" Clay and Tom Green, and motorcycle designer
Jesse James.
But it was her acrimonious verbal battles with comedienne Joan
Rivers, the show's eventual winner, that had audiences watching and
drove the show's ratings skyward.

At times during the episodes, Rivers said Duke was worse than
"Hitler" and compared poker players to members of the Mafia. The
comments raised the ire of the poker community, including World Series
of Poker Commissioner Jeffrey Pollack, who told media last month that
he was looking forward to a woman winning the tournament's Main Event
title, "unless that woman happens to be Joan Rivers."

As part of the contestants' final task, Duke raised hundreds of
thousands of dollars for her charity, Refugees International, mainly
through her connections in the poker community.

Reflecting on how the show played out, Duke said she was able to
dispel Rivers' stereotyping of poker players. Both Duke and Trump said
"Celebrity Apprentice" raised more than $1.5 million for various
charities, and poker players played a big part in the fund-raising
efforts.


Duke believes Rivers owes poker players and Las Vegas an apology.

"Poker is a legitimate profession," said Duke, who is a graduate of
Columbia University with degrees in psychology and English. She also
spent five years working toward a doctorate at the University of
Pennsylvania in cognitive psychology, which she set aside. Divorced,
Duke is the mother of four children, ranging in age from 7 to 14.

"Most of us are math nerds," Duke said. "But poker players are very
charitable and concerned about the community. That wasn't how Joan
portrayed us."

By finishing ahead of most of the show's more well-known
celebrities, Duke showed her business abilities, such as being able to
think quickly on her feet in order to complete a task when the
contestants had only hours or minutes to come up with a solution.


"I never reacted to Joan, which is how I play at the poker table,"
Duke said. "You learn quickly to let things slide off your back and not
react emotionally. That also works well in business."

Duke's management skills impressed Trump.

"I think Annie did a lot for the image of poker players," Trump
said. "She's extremely talented, and we saw that right from the first
task."

As for the animosity between Duke and Rivers on the show, Trump said
it was real and not the result of creative editing or acting skills.

"It was major hatred and dislike," Trump said. "No one is that good an actress."


Pollack thought Duke's participation on "Celebrity Apprentice" gave poker a new
audience.

"The fact that a poker player at all, but certainly a poker player
of any stature, is on 'Celebrity Apprentice,' is a quantum leap forward
for the mainstreaming of poker into our pop culture," Pollack said. "I
think Annie is representing poker players beautifully."

Long before "Celebrity Apprentice," Duke was well known for her
charitable endeavors. Through poker events, she has raised millions for
children's hospitals and educational foundations.


In 2007, she and actor Don Cheadle established the Ante Up For
Africa event, a $5,000 buy-in no-limit hold'em game that raises funds
for the survivors of the humanitarian crisis in Dafur, Sudan. The event
attracts both Hollywood celebrities and poker's elite. Last year's game
raised almost $500,000 for the cause.

Duke is also an activist on Capitol Hill in trying to change the
federal law outlawing Internet wagering. She is one of the founding
members of the Poker Players Alliance, which supports making online
poker a legal activity. Duke can recite contradictions in federal
regulations better than most Washington, D.C., lobbyists.

"It's not a poker issue, it's a civil liberties issue," Duke said. "It's about
adults being allowed to do adult things."
Despite her success, Duke doesn't consider herself a trailblazer for female
poker players.

"For a while, it might have seemed like myself and Jennifer Harman
were the only women out there," Duke said. "The lines have blurred as
to what sex someone is, but it will be a huge deal the first time a
woman wins the Main Event."

Contact reporter Howard Stutz at hstutz@... or 702-477-3871.

  "We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley





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NEW YORK – Actor Stephen Baldwin's foreclosed home
in the suburbs north of New York City will be publicly auctioned. Baldwin paid
$515,000 for the 1.4-acre home in Rockland County in 1997. In 2006, he tried
unsuccessfully to sell it. County filings show Baldwin and his wife Kennya
defaulted on more than $824,000 in payments to mortgage holder Bankers Trust Co.
The auction is set for June 24. A representative for Baldwin couldn't be reached
for comment. The actor has starred in movies such as "Bio-Dome" and "The Usual
Suspects." Recently, he's appeared on reality television shows "The Celebrity
Apprentice" and "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"

Go to the story
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_stephen_baldwin
  "We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley





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Far�as I know, Jeff Conaway will not be Celebrity Rehab again.� At least...let's
hope not.

�"We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley




________________________________
From: drakingson <drakingson@...>
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 3:30:51 AM
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Glenn, You Must Be Psychic





That is one of a myriad of my talents! It's not really shocking. All of the has
been celebrities want to go on Celebrity Rehab. I think some of them are faking
it just for the exposure. It will be nice to see Mackenzie back on TV. I just
hope Jeff from taxi isn't there. e first saw his break down on Celebrity Fit
club. I hated whenhe punched his girlfriend on last season..

--- In The_Apprentice@ yahoogroups. com, George <xslider.geo@ ...> wrote:
>
> Remember when Glenn in a posting after Dennis Rodman was fired said that we
might see the Worm on Celebrity Rehab? Guess what? He will be one of Dr. Drew's
patients in the 3rd season of the celeb-reality show; "Celebrity Rehab with Dr.
Drew". Along with Rodman, other celebrities who will be checking into Dr. Drew's
clinic will be; Tom Sizemore, Sizemore's ex-girlfriend and Hollywood Madam Heidi
Fleiss, Kari Ann Peniche, country music star Mindy McCreedy, Mike Starr,
Mackenzie Phillips (One Day At A Time), Lisa D'Amato and Joey Kovar, No word on
when the show will air but expect to be on VH-1 sometime this season.
>
> "We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley
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That is one of a myriad of my talents!  It's not really shocking.  All of the
has been celebrities want to go on Celebrity Rehab. I think some of them are
faking it just for the exposure. It will be nice to see Mackenzie back on TV. I
just hope Jeff from taxi isn't there. e first saw his break down on Celebrity
Fit club. I hated whenhe punched his girlfriend on last season..






--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, George <xslider.geo@...> wrote:
>
> Remember when Glenn in a posting after Dennis Rodman was fired said that we
might see the Worm on Celebrity Rehab?  Guess what?  He will be one of Dr.
Drew's patients in the 3rd season of the celeb-reality show; "Celebrity Rehab
with Dr. Drew".  Along with Rodman, other celebrities who will be checking into
Dr. Drew's clinic will be; Tom Sizemore, Sizemore's ex-girlfriend and Hollywood
Madam Heidi Fleiss, Kari Ann Peniche, country music star Mindy McCreedy, Mike
Starr, Mackenzie Phillips (One Day At A Time), Lisa D'Amato and Joey Kovar,   No
word on when the show will air but expect to be on VH-1 sometime this season.
>
>  "We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley
>
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Cool. that would be fun. But I wonder what the legality of it all is. I mean
what is the copyright law about using someone else' likeness in a t-shirt
without their permission?



--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> You are so right, Annie is not nearly as smart as she thinks she is.  Just
look at her "strategy" for picking castmates to work on her team on the final
task.  Basically no strategy at all.  So winning the coin toss didn't give her
any big advantage anyway.
>
> If you do start selling those t-shirts I will definitely buy one!!
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/2/09, drakingson <drakingson@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: drakingson <drakingson@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 12:52 AM
>
>
> Hey:
>
> That is very insightful. And wasn't it funny how tom Green poked fun of Annie
during the finale when she cried about Joan's treatment of her. Tom spoke
volumes when he said "You let her get to you. Joan's a legend. It's a bade of
honor. I think you let her get to you". Annie isn't as tough as she makes
herself out to be. She is definitely not as smart as she says she is.
>
> I want to sell "Annie Duke is Hitler" t-shirts with  Annie wearing a Nazi
uniform and the words Annie Duke is Hitler underneath.
>
> --- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@> wrote:
> >
> > Even so, it's a fair statement to make.  Maybe that's also why Annie was so
over-sensitive about the "Hitler" thing.  And that makes Annie seem really quite
stupid, because at her age she should certainly remember Joan Rivers as a
comedian who every so often referred to "Hitler" in her comedy, including and
especially when Annie would have been little which was when Joan was certainly
in the prime of her career.  Annie didn't even need to be a fan of Joan to know
that.  Annie thinks she's so smart but she's dumb enough to take something like
that way too literally.  Really dumb for someone who's supposed to be expert at
a game which requires skill at reading other people.
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 6/1/09, J Phillips <mopar_superbird@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: J Phillips <mopar_superbird@>
> > Subject: Re: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> > To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:48 AM
> >
> >
> > Even if true.....that's quite a stereotypical accusation.
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 6/1/09, drakingson <drakingson@> wrote:
> >
> > From: drakingson <drakingson@>
> > Subject: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> > To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 1:54 AM
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> >       I think that Annie Duke or her family were members of the Nazi party
who escaped Europe before being captured by Allied forces. It only makes sense.
It would explain why she supported a refugee charity. She would be sensitive to
people having a hard time getting into the country. Many of the Hitler youth and
Nazi clan had to hang out in South America before they could sneak their way
into the USA. They were experts at all sorts of illegal activity like gambling
and had mob connection. Their money was considered blood money because it was
earned through stealing from Jews before they went into the camps. Just
something to think about.
> >
> >
> >
>
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Kendra Todd winner of the third season of�The Apprentice Is on HGTV.��The show
is�entitled; "My House Is�Worth What?".� The show is bascially a home remodeling
show.� The show is currently airing on HGTV.� Here is the URL for the show's
website if you are interested in watching the show.�
http://www.hgtv.com/my-house-is-worth-what/show/index.html

�"We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Remember�when Glenn in a posting after Dennis Rodman was fired said
that�we�might see the Worm on Celebrity Rehab?� Guess what?� He�will be one of
Dr. Drew's patients in the 3rd season of the celeb-reality show; "Celebrity
Rehab with Dr. Drew".� Along with Rodman, other celebrities who will be checking
into Dr. Drew's clinic will be;�Tom Sizemore, Sizemore's ex-girlfriend and
Hollywood Madam Heidi Fleiss, Kari Ann Peniche, country music star Mindy
McCreedy, Mike Starr, Mackenzie Phillips (One Day�At A Time), Lisa D'Amato
and�Joey Kovar,�� No word on when the show will air but expect to be on VH-1
sometime this season.

�"We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the
Mount.... The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more
about war than about peace, more about killing than we know about living." -
General of the Army Omar Nelson Bradley




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Thanks to all of you for joining my The Apprentice group.  Since this is the
high point of the year for reality shows I wanted to invite you to join some of
the groups for shows airing this summer.  By joining the group you will get
access to group discussions and get regular emails with previews and other
updates too.  Here is a not so brief rundown:

American Idol - The show is over but the tour will be going on this summer and
usually there is usually something going on.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/AmericanIdol/join

America's Got Talent - The show premieres Tuesday, June 23
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Americas_Got_Talent/join

The Bachelorette - The second episode aired last night
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Bachelor/join

Big Brother 11 - Premieres July 9th - Since the live feeds can get R rated, so
can this group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Big_Brother_11/join

Blonde Charity Mafia - A new show on The CW that premieres July 7
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Blonde_Charity_Mafia/join

Brooke Knows Best - Season 2 begins June 7
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Brooke_Knows_Best_Vh1/

Canada's Next Top Model - For those of you up north, the season debuted May 26
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Canadas_Next_Top_Model/join

The Cougar - The season ends this week
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Cougar/join

Dog the Bounty Hunter - Season 4 is in progress
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Dog_the_Bounty_Hunter/join

Don't Forget the Lyrics - Season began two weeks ago on FOX
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Dont_Forget_the_Lyrics/join

Expedition Africa - This Mark Burnett show just started this week on History. 
It's pretty cool.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Expediton_Africa/join

The Fashion Show - The Project Runway replacement on Bravo which began May 7
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Fashion_Show/join

Gene Simmons Family Jewels - Season 4 Premieres June 7
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gene_Simmons_Family_Jewels/join

Great American Road Trip - A new NBC show that debut's July 7.  Participants
travel America's legendary Route 66.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Great_American_Road_Trip/join

Here Come the Newlyweds - Season 2 premiered May 25
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Here_Come_the_Newlyweds/

Hitched or Ditched - This CW show debuted May 26
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hitched_or_Ditched/join

Ice Road Truckers - This show just began season 3 on Sunday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Road_Truckers/join

I'm a Celebrity - Get Me Out of Here - This started last night on NBC
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/ImaCelebrity_GetMeOutofHere/join

Intervention - Season 7 debuted May 25
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Intervention_Show/join

Kathy Griffin: My Life on the D-List - Season 5 premieres June 8
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kathy_Griffin_My_Life_on_the_D_List/join

Kendra - Formerly of The Girls Next Door, her new series begins June 7
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Kendra_Show/join

Make Me a Supermodel - This shows season is almost done:
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Make_Me_a_Supermodel/join

Miami Social  - This premieres on Bravo July 14
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Million Dollar Password - Just began last Sunday on CBS
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More to Love - A plus sized dating show.  The premiere date has not been
announced.
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The Next Food Network Star - The season begins June 7
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NYC Prep - A new series on Bravo that begins June 16
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/NYC_Prep/join

Paris Hilton's My New BFF - Season 2 begins tonight June 2
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Paris_Hiltons_My_New_BFF/join

The Shark Tank, an entrepreneurial show - This premieres this fall but they are
casting now
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Shark_Tank_Show/join

Shear Genius - The third season is in casting but a premiere has not been
announced yet
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So You Think You Can Dance - Season 5 debuted May 21
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The Superstars - a new ABC sports themed show that premieres June 23
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Top Chef - The new "Masters" edition begins June 10
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Wipeout - Season 2 began on ABC May 27
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Finally a few new summer scripted series too:

The Listener
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The Philanthropist
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Philanthropist/join

Merlin
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Mental (on FOX)
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Mental_Show/join

Have a great summer!

Annie is a total sore loser.� Her fans are sore losers.� Annie has been
incredibly ungracious about losing to Joan.� I kept waiting for Annie to do
something to show a little class, like congratulating Joan, and say something to
let her fans know that she was not cheated out of the title of Celebrity
Apprentice.� But instead Annie has been a sore loser, basically agreeing with
those who say that.� So this stunt doesn't surprize me at all.��Annie didn't
even go to the after-party.� Even�Tana and Rebecca weren't such sore losers to
have skipped their after-parties.�


--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Marg <redriver1991@...> wrote:


From: Marg <redriver1991@...>
Subject: RE: [The_Apprentice] Re: Annie making money off Joan's real fame
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 2:43 AM


If Annie is so much better than Joan, why does she have to use Joan's
hard-earned fame to promote herself.
Check out Annie's website at
http://www.annieduke.com/2009/05/sucking-out-on-the-rivers/
Is this silly "girl" (as she likes to call herself) a sore loser or what?
Oh, yeah, and Annie's back in her crapola thrift store rags again.� She
looks worse than the guys impersonating Ms. Rivers.
Marguerite


"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that
will be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour



� _____�

From: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of drakingson
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 23:53
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany





Hey:

That is very insightful. And wasn't it funny how tom Green poked fun of
Annie during the finale when she cried about Joan's treatment of her. Tom
spoke volumes when he said "You let her get to you. Joan's a legend. It's a
bade of honor. I think you let her get to you". Annie isn't as tough as she
makes herself out to be. She is definitely not as smart as she says she is.

I want to sell "Annie Duke is Hitler" t-shirts with Annie wearing a Nazi
uniform and the words Annie Duke is Hitler underneath.

--- In The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> Even so, it's a fair statement to make. Maybe that's also why Annie was so
over-sensitive about the "Hitler" thing. And that makes Annie seem really
quite stupid, because at her age she should certainly remember Joan Rivers
as a comedian who every so often referred to "Hitler" in her comedy,
including and especially when Annie would have been little which was when
Joan was certainly in the prime of her career. Annie didn't even need to be
a fan of Joan to know that. Annie thinks she's so smart but she's dumb
enough to take something like that way too literally. Really dumb for
someone who's supposed to be expert at a game which requires skill at
reading other people.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, J Phillips <mopar_superbird@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: J Phillips <mopar_superbird@...>
> Subject: Re: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:48 AM
>
>
> Even if true.....that's quite a stereotypical accusation.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, drakingson <drakingson@...> wrote:
>
> From: drakingson <drakingson@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 1:54 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think that Annie Duke or her family were members of the Nazi party who
escaped Europe before being captured by Allied forces. It only makes sense.
It would explain why she supported a refugee charity. She would be sensitive
to people having a hard time getting into the country. Many of the Hitler
youth and Nazi clan had to hang out in South America before they could sneak
their way into the USA. They were experts at all sorts of illegal activity
like gambling and had mob connection. Their money was considered blood money
because it was earned through stealing from Jews before they went into the
camps. Just something to think about.
>
>
>
>


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You are so right, Annie is not nearly as smart as she thinks she is.� Just look
at her "strategy" for picking castmates to work on her team on the final task.�
Basically no strategy at all.� So winning the coin toss didn't give her any big
advantage anyway.
�
If you do start selling those t-shirts I will definitely buy one!!


--- On Tue, 6/2/09, drakingson <drakingson@...> wrote:


From: drakingson <drakingson@...>
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 12:52 AM


Hey:

That is very insightful. And wasn't it funny how tom Green poked fun of Annie
during the finale when she cried about Joan's treatment of her. Tom spoke
volumes when he said "You let her get to you. Joan's a legend. It's a bade of
honor. I think you let her get to you". Annie isn't as tough as she makes
herself out to be. She is definitely not as smart as she says she is.

I want to sell "Annie Duke is Hitler" t-shirts with� Annie wearing a Nazi
uniform and the words Annie Duke is Hitler underneath.

--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> Even so, it's a fair statement to make.� Maybe that's also why Annie was so
over-sensitive about the "Hitler" thing.� And that makes Annie seem really quite
stupid, because at her age she should certainly remember Joan Rivers as a
comedian who every so often referred to "Hitler" in her comedy, including and
especially when Annie would have been little which was when Joan was certainly
in the prime of her career.� Annie didn't even need to be a fan of Joan to know
that.� Annie thinks she's so smart but she's dumb enough to take something like
that way too literally.� Really dumb for someone who's supposed to be expert at
a game which requires skill at reading other people.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, J Phillips <mopar_superbird@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: J Phillips <mopar_superbird@...>
> Subject: Re: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:48 AM
>
>
> Even if true.....that's quite a stereotypical accusation.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, drakingson <drakingson@...> wrote:
>
> From: drakingson <drakingson@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 1:54 AM
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>� � ���I think that Annie Duke or her family were members of the Nazi party who
escaped Europe before being captured by Allied forces. It only makes sense. It
would explain why she supported a refugee charity. She would be sensitive to
people having a hard time getting into the country. Many of the Hitler youth and
Nazi clan had to hang out in South America before they could sneak their way
into the USA. They were experts at all sorts of illegal activity like gambling
and had mob connection. Their money was considered blood money because it was
earned through stealing from Jews before they went into the camps. Just
something to think about.
>
>
>

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Regardless of who you liked better, the following is really funny:
http://www.shreddingradio.com/duke.html


"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that
will be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour



Marguerite
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If Annie is so much better than Joan, why does she have to use Joan's
hard-earned fame to promote herself.
Check out Annie's website at
http://www.annieduke.com/2009/05/sucking-out-on-the-rivers/
Is this silly "girl" (as she likes to call herself) a sore loser or what?
Oh, yeah, and Annie's back in her crapola thrift store rags again.  She
looks worse than the guys impersonating Ms. Rivers.
Marguerite


"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished. Yet that
will be the beginning."-- Louis L'Amour



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From: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of drakingson
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 23:53
To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [The_Apprentice] Re: Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany





Hey:

That is very insightful. And wasn't it funny how tom Green poked fun of
Annie during the finale when she cried about Joan's treatment of her. Tom
spoke volumes when he said "You let her get to you. Joan's a legend. It's a
bade of honor. I think you let her get to you". Annie isn't as tough as she
makes herself out to be. She is definitely not as smart as she says she is.

I want to sell "Annie Duke is Hitler" t-shirts with Annie wearing a Nazi
uniform and the words Annie Duke is Hitler underneath.

--- In The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
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> Even so, it's a fair statement to make. Maybe that's also why Annie was so
over-sensitive about the "Hitler" thing. And that makes Annie seem really
quite stupid, because at her age she should certainly remember Joan Rivers
as a comedian who every so often referred to "Hitler" in her comedy,
including and especially when Annie would have been little which was when
Joan was certainly in the prime of her career. Annie didn't even need to be
a fan of Joan to know that. Annie thinks she's so smart but she's dumb
enough to take something like that way too literally. Really dumb for
someone who's supposed to be expert at a game which requires skill at
reading other people.
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> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, J Phillips <mopar_superbird@...> wrote:
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> From: J Phillips <mopar_superbird@...>
> Subject: Re: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:48 AM
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> Even if true.....that's quite a stereotypical accusation.
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> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, drakingson <drakingson@...> wrote:
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> From: drakingson <drakingson@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> To: The_Apprentice@ <mailto:The_Apprentice%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 1:54 AM
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> I think that Annie Duke or her family were members of the Nazi party who
escaped Europe before being captured by Allied forces. It only makes sense.
It would explain why she supported a refugee charity. She would be sensitive
to people having a hard time getting into the country. Many of the Hitler
youth and Nazi clan had to hang out in South America before they could sneak
their way into the USA. They were experts at all sorts of illegal activity
like gambling and had mob connection. Their money was considered blood money
because it was earned through stealing from Jews before they went into the
camps. Just something to think about.
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Hey:

That is very insightful. And wasn't it funny how tom Green poked fun of Annie
during the finale when she cried about Joan's treatment of her. Tom spoke
volumes when he said "You let her get to you. Joan's a legend. It's a bade of
honor. I think you let her get to you". Annie isn't as tough as she makes
herself out to be. She is definitely not as smart as she says she is.

I want to sell "Annie Duke is Hitler" t-shirts with  Annie wearing a Nazi
uniform and the words Annie Duke is Hitler underneath.

--- In The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com, gad <geead7@...> wrote:
>
> Even so, it's a fair statement to make.  Maybe that's also why Annie was so
over-sensitive about the "Hitler" thing.  And that makes Annie seem really quite
stupid, because at her age she should certainly remember Joan Rivers as a
comedian who every so often referred to "Hitler" in her comedy, including and
especially when Annie would have been little which was when Joan was certainly
in the prime of her career.  Annie didn't even need to be a fan of Joan to know
that.  Annie thinks she's so smart but she's dumb enough to take something like
that way too literally.  Really dumb for someone who's supposed to be expert at
a game which requires skill at reading other people.
>
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> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, J Phillips <mopar_superbird@...> wrote:
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> From: J Phillips <mopar_superbird@...>
> Subject: Re: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:48 AM
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> Even if true.....that's quite a stereotypical accusation.
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> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, drakingson <drakingson@...> wrote:
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> From: drakingson <drakingson@...>
> Subject: [The_Apprentice] Annie Duke: Refugee from Nazi Germany
> To: The_Apprentice@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 1:54 AM
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escaped Europe before being captured by Allied forces. It only makes sense. It
would explain why she supported a refugee charity. She would be sensitive to
people having a hard time getting into the country. Many of the Hitler youth and
Nazi clan had to hang out in South America before they could sneak their way
into the USA. They were experts at all sorts of illegal activity like gambling
and had mob connection. Their money was considered blood money because it was
earned through stealing from Jews before they went into the camps. Just
something to think about.
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