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[TV WOMB] Re: Relationship porn

Having now watched two episodes of Tell Me You Love Me (one more than
cousin Tom will presumably ever watch), I feel like I can comment.
There seems to be a "cinema verite" category of HBO drama that includes
the (to borrow a phrase) "brilliant but cancelled" K Street, also the
less interesting but fairly entertaining Unscripted, and now this. The
first two were created by Steven Soderbergh and George Clooney and were
dispatched quickly, so I can't imagine that this series by (who was it
again?) will survive its first season. Apparently the first episode
ratings were terrible, and as for my personal reaction to the first two,
I have to say I was more or less as annoyed as you all. The first sex
scene in Episode 2 was an exercise in eye rolling as in "here we go
again". Mercifully, the sex never becomes as explicit as it was in
episode 1, but the characters never really become more likable either.
Others have pointed to the characters of David and Katie played by Tim
DeKay and Ally Walker as representing the only compelling story. I
agree that they are the "most sufferable" characters on the show, but I
don't really like watching their interactions play out either. I didn't
enjoy watching Tim DeKay as a crippled roustabout on Carnivale and he's
no more appealing here. To me, he looks too much like Shemp Howard.



On the positive side, I respect a show that makes me uncomfortable, and
there was one point in the first episode that had me squirming in a
memorable way that caused me to reflect. I'm not referring to any of
the explicit sex acts, but rather the sex act that they didn't show.





(HERE I WILL PUT IN A SPOILER ALERT FOR THOSE WHO INTEND TO CATCH UP
WITH THE FIRST EPISODE)





When the elderly lady therapist started getting friendly with her
(husband?) I was filled with mild dread, thinking that I really, really
didn't want to see the old folks' junk. This moment (which came just
before the end of the episode allayed my fears) made me reevaluate
everything. It didn't make the characters any less irritating, but it
made me to think about the relationship between TV/Hollywood and sex and
my own prejudices. It made me wonder if there was really something
worthwhile in the show creators' agenda that is somehow brought to light
by the unflinching money shots. It's not to say these worthwhile
elements will be successfully coaxed to the surface before the series
meets its demise, but given the freedom of the HBO venue, I wouldn't be
surprised if the show turned a corner at some point. And given the
track record of HBO, I can't see myself withholding the benefit of the
doubt without giving the show a few more episodes.



Jim



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From: TV-WOMB@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TV-WOMB@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Darius and Jennifer Koski
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:05 PM
To: TV-WOMB@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TV WOMB] Re: Relationship porn



yes i agree.
-jennie

On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Thomas Sweeney wrote:

> Watched it last night...had a decent moment or two but ultimately
BLAH,
> STUPID!!!...these people need to lighten up and or get a clue! And i
> really
> dont need to see THAT much of THAT kind of intimacy.





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Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:17 pm

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By the way, I watched the premiere of "Tell Me You Love Me" on HBO and I am completely baffled. I don't shy away from fairly graphic sex, but this has very...
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Sep 11, 2007
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Interesting, I wanted to see Tell Me You Love Me because the trailers looked very interesting for all the right reasons (not just the occasional sex scene)....
Thomas Sweeney
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Sep 11, 2007
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I think the show is supposed to be about intimacy and reestablishing intimacy, but I just felt they missed the mark. The sex scenes were not like sex in the...
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Watched it last night...had a decent moment or two but ultimately BLAH, STUPID!!!...these people need to lighten up and or get a clue! And i really dont need...
Thomas Sweeney
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Sep 12, 2007
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yes i agree. -jennie ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Having now watched two episodes of Tell Me You Love Me (one more than cousin Tom will presumably ever watch), I feel like I can comment. There seems to be a...
Jim Sweeney
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Sep 17, 2007
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... I'll probably watch a couple of more episodes, but I'm not sure how much after that. The problem I have with the show is not that it makes me uncomfortable...
Tom
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Sep 19, 2007
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I will watch a few more episodes, but i am sure this will not be one of my favorite shows for all the collective reasons we have mentioned. This show doesn't...
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Welcome, Tom and thanks for your initial comments! Inasmuch as this group serves as a TV intervention for those of us who watch way too many shows, I should...
Jim Sweeney
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Sep 19, 2007
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... Yeah. My problem is that I show a little too much patience. That, plus a skewed sense of loyalty often make me unable to dump shows that I should have...
Tom
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I will watch ER until it dies, no matter how many helicopters tragically fall on people. -Jennie ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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