Yes, I believe you can show pride in your body by sitting in a lawn
chair in a tasteful, ladylike pose. That is much better than being
on all fours with your butt up in the air, especially on national
television!

As for questions for the Christian lady, let me think...I suppose
you could ask her how SHE feels about the young ladies who were on
all fours with their butt up in the air? And how she feels about
fellow women judging and being in charge of this show, making it
appear that posing like this is acceptible behavior?

I know that guys want to look at ladies. But if these ladies didn't
pose the way they did--especially in pornographic magazines, or in
porn movies or in strip clubs and such--there wouldn't be any porn
industry. Men would have better respect for the ladies. Women who do
these things just keep it all going.

Btw, I am a writer, too--actually more of an ex-writer; I did
freelance reporting for the local newspaper for years, writing
features and profiles probably similar to what you do. It was fun
but I got kinda burnt out on it and am glad to be away from it for
awhile.


--- In Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
movieman26@h... wrote:
>
> > You can be proud of your body and just do everyday things!
>
> So you can show pride in your body by sitting in a lawn chair in a
> skimpy swimsuit, as long as your legs are crossed? OK, got it.
>
> > As for a Christian posing topless, it sounds like she was fairly
> > covered up...but even so, you really have to be careful and
don't
> > overstep the limits of good taste.
>
> You and her father would get along well. His response when he
found
> out was, "I hope you wore a lot of leis!"
>
> > So you interview these young ladies, right?
>
> Yes, I do. I'll be interviewing the Christian model tomorrow. And
> I'll be sure to ask her a question just for you. If you have
> anything else you'd like me to ask her let me know, and I'll see
> what I can do.
>
> > I suppose you compliment them about their appearance and photos,
> > further instilling the notion in them that what they are doing
is
> > okay?
>
> If you mean do I say, "I love the way you posed on all fours with
> your butt in the air," no, I don't say that. If you mean, do I
> say "You looked great on the runway" or "Your photos from the
recent
> photo shoot looked really good," then yes, sometimes I do.
>
> > Young guys watching this will think women are just
> > supposed to natural "strut their stuff" and show off their body
by
> > gyrating in unladylike, suggestive positions.
>
> First, I'd question your use of the term "gyrating." Gyrating
means
> to "move around on an axis" or to "move in a spiral motion". It is
> also a synonym for "turn". While the models do turn to change
> positions, they are not rotating or revolving, which is the kind
of
> turning to which "gyrating" refers.
>
> > What kind of message does that send?
>
> It sends the message that we live in a commercial society. Where
> there is a demand, you can be sure that someone will come up with
a
> way to supply that demand. If guys want to look at young women of
> legal age (a human behavior that is not only completely normal,
it's
> a rite of passage), someone will find a way to take pictures of
> young women to view. In this case, that "way" is called modeling.
>
> As for posing in "gyrating unladylike, suggestive positions",
that's
> a subjective interpretation, to which you are welcome. I, on the
> other hand, feel differently.
>
> --- In
> Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com, "Cindy"
> <cindybin2001@y...> wrote:
> >
> > It is definitely more the positions. The part I caught a glimpse
> of
> > was when some of them were on all fours with their butt up in
the
> > air. That is totally uncalled for. While I don't really approve
of
> > the skimpy bikinis these days, it is the style, so I try to
accept
> > it. And I probably would not say anything to a young lady
wearing
> a
> > very revealing swimsuit. For instance, I frequently post on the
> > Yahoo headline boards, and one young woman has a profile photo
of
> > herself in a string bikini. But she is sitting in a lawn chair
in
> a
> > very ladylike position, legs together and crossed at the ankles,
> her
> > arms on the armrest of the chair, and just smiling nicely into
the
> > camera. I even complimented her on the photo. I mean, she was
not
> in
> > some extremely provocative position, or holding her boobs or
> > anything. Just sitting there tastefully posed.
> >
> > As for a Christian posing topless, it sounds like she was fairly
> > covered up...but even so, you really have to be careful and
don't
> > overstep the limits of good taste.
> >
> > You also don't have to do those things you mentioned in order to
> > show pride in your body. Being proud of your body does not mean
> > posing or being in contests. You can be proud of your body and
> just
> > do everyday things!
> >
> > So you interview these young ladies, right? I suppose you
> compliment
> > them about their appearance and photos, further instilling the
> > notion in them that what they are doing is okay?
> >
> > Again, it is one thing to pose in a swimsuit--even if it is
skimpy-
> -
> > but what I object to is the way these models are posing--the
> > positions they often are in. It definitely projects the wrong
> image,
> > and then young people watching these shows think it is okay to
do
> > things like this. Young guys watching this will think women are
> just
> > supposed to natural "strut their stuff" and show off their body
by
> > gyrating in unladylike, suggestive positions. What kind of
message
> > does that send?
> >
> > --- In Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
> > movieman26@h... wrote:
> > >
> > > > But what I saw on the TV show was them gyrating around
> > > > in extremely suggestive positions, like being on all
> > > > fours with their butts up in the air.
> > >
> > > OK, NOW we are getting somewhere! So is it the positions or
the
> > > bikinis or both of which you do not approve? I got the feeling
> it
> > > was just the bikinis.
> > >
> > > > I don't understand what you mean about the Christian
> > > > model--you said she did a topless photo shoot but her
> > > > breasts were covered. Was she topless or not?
> > >
> > > Perhaps I should have described it better. Yes, she was
topless,
> > but
> > > she was wearing several Hawaiian-style floral leis that
covered
> a
> > > good 90% of her breasts. So she was topless, but her breasts
> were
> > > (mostly) covered.
> > >
> > > > Really, a Christian would not pose topless.
> > >
> > > So are you calling her a liar?
> > >
> > > > As I said, there is nothing wrong with being proud of your
> body.
> > > > But posing nude is totally inappropriate.
> > >
> > > Isn't posing nude just another way of showing pride in your
> body?
> > It
> > > seems posing in bikinis is also totally inappropriate.
> > >
> > > There are only a few ways I can think of to show pride in
one's
> > > body, aside from posing nude
> > >
> > > 1) Bt modeling (whether with clothes or without) - Something
of
> > > which you don't seem to approve because of the positions in
> which
> > > the models pose
> > >
> > > 2) By wearing a skimpy bikini -- Something of which you do not
> > seem
> > > to approve
> > >
> > > 3) Entering a body building contest (where the women also wear
> > > bikinis) -- To me (notice the qualifier), this kind of showing
> off
> > > of a woman's body is not attractive. Since these women wear
> > bikinis
> > > as well and show bulging muscles, which are certainly
> unladylike,
> > I
> > > doubt you would approve of this either.
> > >
> > > So just how would you suggest a woman show pride in her body?
> > >
> > > --- In
Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
> > > Cindybin <cindybin2001@y...> wrote:
> > > > I know that these young ladies are wearing swimsuits.
> > > > But what I saw on the TV show was them gyrating around
> > > > in extremely suggestive positions, like being on all
> > > > fours with their butts up in the air. That is sooo
> > > > unladylike and gives a completely wrong impression.
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand what you mean about the Christian
> > > > model--you said she did a topless photo shoot but her
> > > > breasts were covered. Was she topless or not? Really,
> > > > a Christian would not pose topless. Of course you can
> > > > be a "sexy Christian", but we need to have a sense of
> > > > modesty, and that does not mean topless. That is just
> > > > going too far.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure Denise Richards is proud of her body,
> > > > otherwise she wouldn't do it. As I said, there is
> > > > nothing wrong with being proud of your body. But
> > > > posing nude is totally inappropriate. It's obvious she
> > > > doesn't feel she is lowering herself. But she really
> > > > is. She is just misguided, that's all. She thinks it's
> > > > okay because Hollywood, or the media says it's okay,
> > > > it's like it is expected of these women for their
> > > > career. But it's not how women should behave.
> > > >
> > > > --- movieman26@h... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > there is a huge difference between being proud of
> > > > > your body and
> > > > > > going too far by doing something like displaying
> > > > > it for the world
> > > > > > to see. You don't just go "showing it off" for
> > > > > strangers.
> > > > >
> > > > > But getting back to models, they are far from being
> > > > > nude. They are
> > > > > showing off their bodies while keeping all their
> > > > > strategic parts
> > > > > covered, and you don't approve of that either.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the models describes herself as a Christian
> > > > > with morals and
> > > > > principles, yet she had no problem doing a topless
> > > > > bikini shoot
> > > > > because her breasts were covered. According to her,
> > > > > "There's nothing
> > > > > in the Bible that says you can't be a sexy
> > > > > Christian." Is she also
> > > > > not intelligent enough to know better? Was she also
> > > > > raised badly?
> > > > >
> > > > > >It's a shame she has lowered herself to do these
> > > > > things.
> > > > >
> > > > > What if Denise Richards is proud of her body and
> > > > > doesn't consider
> > > > > such a photo shoot as "lowering herself"?
> > > > >
> > > > > > But even an adult woman shouldn't be doing this.
> > > > > It's just not
> > > > > > right.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who is to say that it's not right? Morality is a
> > > > > very subjective
> > > > > thing. You say it's not right; I say there's nothing
> > > > > wrong with it.
> > > > > There is no law against wearing a bikini and having
> > > > > your photo
> > > > > taken. There's also no law against NOT wearing a
> > > > > bikini and having
> > > > > your photo taken (as long as it's not done in public
> > > > > where people
> > > > > have no choice BUT to see you naked).
> > > > >
> > > > > > That's not what we teach our daughters. I don't
> > > > > know why you can't
> > > > > > see this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps because I am more open-minded when it comes
> > > > > to sexiness. The
> > > > > male body is utilitarian; The female body is a thing
> > > > > of beauty. If
> > > > > you had a Heaven-sent gift, wouldn't it be almost
> > > > > criminal to let it
> > > > > go to waste?
> > > > >
> > > > > These women were born with Heaven-sent attractive
> > > > > looks. All the
> > > > > human-made makeup and other products just enhances
> > > > > one's natural
> > > > > beauty; it can't make someone ugly instantly
> > > > > beautiful. So these
> > > > > women are just making sure that their Heaven-sent
> > > > > gifts don't go to
> > > > > waste. Is that so bad? If people want to pay them
> > > > > for use of those
> > > > > gifts, so much the better for these women. They
> > > > > decide for whom to
> > > > > work.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Are you affiliated with this show somehow?
> > > > >
> > > > > The only way I am "affiliated" with this show is
> > > > > that I recap it for
> > > > > a reality TV website and interview eliminated
> > > > > contestants. I am more
> > > > > a part of the media, than a part of the show.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
> > > > >
> > > > Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > "Cindy"
> > > > > <cindybin2001@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
> > > > >
> > > > Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > >
> > > > > > movieman26@h... wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > The thing is, people like Denise Richards are
> > > > > ACTRESSES. They are
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the type of business where doing things like
> > > > > posing in the nude
> > > > > > seems okay, but it's really not. They may be
> > > > > intelligent, but they
> > > > > > are caught up in this lifestyle. I have seen
> > > > > Denise Richards on
> > > > > talk
> > > > > > shows, and she seems so sweet. It's a shame she
> > > > > has lowered
> > > > > herself
> > > > > > to do these things. She really wouldn't have to.
> > > > > She could keep
> > > > > her
> > > > > > clothes on and maintain her dignity and respect.
> > > > > But it's like
> > > > > these
> > > > > > actresses think they HAVE to do these things to be
> > > > > accepted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think you would want your daughter posing
> > > > > for Playboy,
> > > > > even
> > > > > > if she were 18. That is still such a young age to
> > > > > make a decision
> > > > > > like that. You are still a teenager! But even an
> > > > > adult woman
> > > > > > shouldn't be doing this. It's just not right. And
> > > > > yes, there is a
> > > > > > huge difference between being proud of your body
> > > > > and going too far
> > > > > > by doing something like displaying it for the
> > > > > world to see. You
> > > > > > don't just go "showing it off" for strangers.
> > > > > That's not what we
> > > > > > teach our daughters. I don't know why you can't
> > > > > see this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you affiliated with this show somehow? If so,
> > > > > in what way? Do
> > > > > > you know of a mailing address I could send a
> > > > > letter to?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for a good chuckle.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The reason these ladies actively approach
> > > > > magazines to appear
> > > > > > nude
> > > > > > > > in them is because they honestly don't know
> > > > > any better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > People like Denise Richards and Teri Polo, who
> > > > > have millions of
> > > > > > > dollars and could never want for money in their
> > > > > lifetimes are
> > > > > > > intelligent women. They didn't get that way by
> > > > > being ignorant to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > ways of the world. Are you telling me that they
> > > > > aren't
> > > > > intelligent
> > > > > > > enought to know that appearing nude is "wrong"?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But there is a difference between being proud
> > > > > of your
> > > > > > > > body, and doing something inappropriate, which
> > > > > is displaying
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > for all to see
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And just what exactly are your credentials for
> > > > > being the arbiter
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > what is appropriate and what is inappropriate
> > > > > for people to do
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > their own bodies?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would you raise your daughter to pose in
> > > > > suggestive movements
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > that on TV? Would you raise your daughter to
> > > > > pose nude in
> > > > > > Playboy?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd raise my daughter to make her own decisions.
> > > > > After all, you
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > only pose in Playboy if you are at least 18. And
> > > > > whether I like
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > or not, 18-year-olds are adults. I'd caution my
> > > > > daughter that in
> > > > > > > this age of the Internet, those pictures --
> > > > > should she choose to
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > > ahead with them -- would never die and could pop
> > > > > up later in
> > > > > life
> > > > > > > when she least expects them to, but that it
> > > > > would be her choice
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > make.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's sad that these ladies must not have been
> > > > > taught these
> > > > >
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