> But what I saw on the TV show was them gyrating around
> in extremely suggestive positions, like being on all
> fours with their butts up in the air.

OK, NOW we are getting somewhere! So is it the positions or the
bikinis or both of which you do not approve? I got the feeling it
was just the bikinis.

> I don't understand what you mean about the Christian
> model--you said she did a topless photo shoot but her
> breasts were covered. Was she topless or not?

Perhaps I should have described it better. Yes, she was topless, but
she was wearing several Hawaiian-style floral leis that covered a
good 90% of her breasts. So she was topless, but her breasts were
(mostly) covered.

> Really, a Christian would not pose topless.

So are you calling her a liar?

> As I said, there is nothing wrong with being proud of your body.
> But posing nude is totally inappropriate.

Isn't posing nude just another way of showing pride in your body? It
seems posing in bikinis is also totally inappropriate.

There are only a few ways I can think of to show pride in one's
body, aside from posing nude

1) Bt modeling (whether with clothes or without) - Something of
which you don't seem to approve because of the positions in which
the models pose

2) By wearing a skimpy bikini -- Something of which you do not seem
to approve

3) Entering a body building contest (where the women also wear
bikinis) -- To me (notice the qualifier), this kind of showing off
of a woman's body is not attractive. Since these women wear bikinis
as well and show bulging muscles, which are certainly unladylike, I
doubt you would approve of this either.

So just how would you suggest a woman show pride in her body?

--- In Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
Cindybin <cindybin2001@y...> wrote:
> I know that these young ladies are wearing swimsuits.
> But what I saw on the TV show was them gyrating around
> in extremely suggestive positions, like being on all
> fours with their butts up in the air. That is sooo
> unladylike and gives a completely wrong impression.
>
> I don't understand what you mean about the Christian
> model--you said she did a topless photo shoot but her
> breasts were covered. Was she topless or not? Really,
> a Christian would not pose topless. Of course you can
> be a "sexy Christian", but we need to have a sense of
> modesty, and that does not mean topless. That is just
> going too far.
>
> I'm sure Denise Richards is proud of her body,
> otherwise she wouldn't do it. As I said, there is
> nothing wrong with being proud of your body. But
> posing nude is totally inappropriate. It's obvious she
> doesn't feel she is lowering herself. But she really
> is. She is just misguided, that's all. She thinks it's
> okay because Hollywood, or the media says it's okay,
> it's like it is expected of these women for their
> career. But it's not how women should behave.
>
> --- movieman26@h... wrote:
>
> >
> > > there is a huge difference between being proud of
> > your body and
> > > going too far by doing something like displaying
> > it for the world
> > > to see. You don't just go "showing it off" for
> > strangers.
> >
> > But getting back to models, they are far from being
> > nude. They are
> > showing off their bodies while keeping all their
> > strategic parts
> > covered, and you don't approve of that either.
> >
> > One of the models describes herself as a Christian
> > with morals and
> > principles, yet she had no problem doing a topless
> > bikini shoot
> > because her breasts were covered. According to her,
> > "There's nothing
> > in the Bible that says you can't be a sexy
> > Christian." Is she also
> > not intelligent enough to know better? Was she also
> > raised badly?
> >
> > >It's a shame she has lowered herself to do these
> > things.
> >
> > What if Denise Richards is proud of her body and
> > doesn't consider
> > such a photo shoot as "lowering herself"?
> >
> > > But even an adult woman shouldn't be doing this.
> > It's just not
> > > right.
> >
> > Who is to say that it's not right? Morality is a
> > very subjective
> > thing. You say it's not right; I say there's nothing
> > wrong with it.
> > There is no law against wearing a bikini and having
> > your photo
> > taken. There's also no law against NOT wearing a
> > bikini and having
> > your photo taken (as long as it's not done in public
> > where people
> > have no choice BUT to see you naked).
> >
> > > That's not what we teach our daughters. I don't
> > know why you can't
> > > see this.
> >
> > Perhaps because I am more open-minded when it comes
> > to sexiness. The
> > male body is utilitarian; The female body is a thing
> > of beauty. If
> > you had a Heaven-sent gift, wouldn't it be almost
> > criminal to let it
> > go to waste?
> >
> > These women were born with Heaven-sent attractive
> > looks. All the
> > human-made makeup and other products just enhances
> > one's natural
> > beauty; it can't make someone ugly instantly
> > beautiful. So these
> > women are just making sure that their Heaven-sent
> > gifts don't go to
> > waste. Is that so bad? If people want to pay them
> > for use of those
> > gifts, so much the better for these women. They
> > decide for whom to
> > work.
> >
> > > Are you affiliated with this show somehow?
> >
> > The only way I am "affiliated" with this show is
> > that I recap it for
> > a reality TV website and interview eliminated
> > contestants. I am more
> > a part of the media, than a part of the show.
> >
> >
> > --- In
> >
> Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Cindy"
> > <cindybin2001@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In
> >
> Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
> >
> > > movieman26@h... wrote:
> > > >
> > > The thing is, people like Denise Richards are
> > ACTRESSES. They are
> > in
> > > the type of business where doing things like
> > posing in the nude
> > > seems okay, but it's really not. They may be
> > intelligent, but they
> > > are caught up in this lifestyle. I have seen
> > Denise Richards on
> > talk
> > > shows, and she seems so sweet. It's a shame she
> > has lowered
> > herself
> > > to do these things. She really wouldn't have to.
> > She could keep
> > her
> > > clothes on and maintain her dignity and respect.
> > But it's like
> > these
> > > actresses think they HAVE to do these things to be
> > accepted.
> > >
> > > I don't think you would want your daughter posing
> > for Playboy,
> > even
> > > if she were 18. That is still such a young age to
> > make a decision
> > > like that. You are still a teenager! But even an
> > adult woman
> > > shouldn't be doing this. It's just not right. And
> > yes, there is a
> > > huge difference between being proud of your body
> > and going too far
> > > by doing something like displaying it for the
> > world to see. You
> > > don't just go "showing it off" for strangers.
> > That's not what we
> > > teach our daughters. I don't know why you can't
> > see this.
> > >
> > > Are you affiliated with this show somehow? If so,
> > in what way? Do
> > > you know of a mailing address I could send a
> > letter to?
> > >
> > > > Thanks for a good chuckle.
> > > >
> > > > > The reason these ladies actively approach
> > magazines to appear
> > > nude
> > > > > in them is because they honestly don't know
> > any better.
> > > >
> > > > People like Denise Richards and Teri Polo, who
> > have millions of
> > > > dollars and could never want for money in their
> > lifetimes are
> > > > intelligent women. They didn't get that way by
> > being ignorant to
> > > the
> > > > ways of the world. Are you telling me that they
> > aren't
> > intelligent
> > > > enought to know that appearing nude is "wrong"?
> > > >
> > > > > But there is a difference between being proud
> > of your
> > > > > body, and doing something inappropriate, which
> > is displaying
> > it
> > > > > for all to see
> > > >
> > > > And just what exactly are your credentials for
> > being the arbiter
> > > of
> > > > what is appropriate and what is inappropriate
> > for people to do
> > > with
> > > > their own bodies?
> > > >
> > > > > Would you raise your daughter to pose in
> > suggestive movements
> > > like
> > > > > that on TV? Would you raise your daughter to
> > pose nude in
> > > Playboy?
> > > >
> > > > I'd raise my daughter to make her own decisions.
> > After all, you
> > > can
> > > > only pose in Playboy if you are at least 18. And
> > whether I like
> > it
> > > > or not, 18-year-olds are adults. I'd caution my
> > daughter that in
> > > > this age of the Internet, those pictures --
> > should she choose to
> > > go
> > > > ahead with them -- would never die and could pop
> > up later in
> > life
> > > > when she least expects them to, but that it
> > would be her choice
> > to
> > > > make.
> > > >
> > > > > It's sad that these ladies must not have been
> > taught these
> >
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