Thanks for a good chuckle.

> The reason these ladies actively approach magazines to appear nude
> in them is because they honestly don't know any better.

People like Denise Richards and Teri Polo, who have millions of
dollars and could never want for money in their lifetimes are
intelligent women. They didn't get that way by being ignorant to the
ways of the world. Are you telling me that they aren't intelligent
enought to know that appearing nude is "wrong"?

> But there is a difference between being proud of your
> body, and doing something inappropriate, which is displaying it
> for all to see

And just what exactly are your credentials for being the arbiter of
what is appropriate and what is inappropriate for people to do with
their own bodies?

> Would you raise your daughter to pose in suggestive movements like
> that on TV? Would you raise your daughter to pose nude in Playboy?

I'd raise my daughter to make her own decisions. After all, you can
only pose in Playboy if you are at least 18. And whether I like it
or not, 18-year-olds are adults. I'd caution my daughter that in
this age of the Internet, those pictures -- should she choose to go
ahead with them -- would never die and could pop up later in life
when she least expects them to, but that it would be her choice to
make.

> It's sad that these ladies must not have been taught these very
> basic principles.

I'd be interested to know how you define modesty and respect for the
body. It seems to me, that modesty and respect to you means covering
up your body, but you said it's OK for people to be proud of their
bodies. If you're proud of something, isn't it only natural to want
to show it off? Therein lies the paradox.

Pride and modesty seem to be complementary to you; but to me they
seem like polar opposites.

--- In
Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com, "Cindy"
<cindybin2001@y...> wrote:
>
> The reason these ladies actively approach magazines to appear nude
> in them is because they honestly don't know any better. They just
> don't realize what they are doing is not right. Again, this is not
> about being ashamed of your body or anything; we all should be
proud
> of our bodies. But there is a difference between being proud of
your
> body, and doing something inappropriate, which is displaying it
for
> all to see, or gyrating around in extremely suggestive poses on
> national TV, as these swimsuit models do. Would you raise your
> daughter to pose in suggestive movements like that on TV? Would
you
> raise your daughter to pose nude in Playboy? I don't think any of
us
> do that. We try to teach our daughters a sense of modesty, respect
> for their bodies. That's not being ashamed of them, but it's know
> what is appropriate and what is not. It's sad that these ladies
must
> not have been taught these very basic principles.
>
> --- In Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
> movieman26@h... wrote:
> >
> > > Just because you think it's terrible for young women to gyrate
> > > their bodies
> >
> > Ummm, no. YOU think it's terrible; I don't.
> >
> > > I think most people would agree with me on this.
> >
> > And I think most people would agree with me, so I guess we're
> going
> > to have to agree to disagree.
> >
> > The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue is the biggest selling
issue
> > of any magazine on the newsstand today for a reason, and I'm
> fairly
> > certain it's not because of the articles.
> >
> > Let's take this issue one step further. What do you think of
> > Victoria Secret catalogues? And what about stores like
Fredericks
> of
> > Hollywood?
> >
> > An even better question: What does it say that sensible,
> > respectable, intelligent women *choose* to pose nude in Playboy?
> I'm
> > going to go out on a limb here and say you probably think of it
> > as "filth" and "degrading to women", but answer me this: If
that's
> > true, why do women actively try to appear in the magazine? And
why
> > do celebrities, who have enough money to start their own
> magazines,
> > approach the magazine *of their own free will* with an interest
in
> > appearing nude in its pages? We live in a commercial society: if
> > such a magazine really did degrade women, word would get around
> and
> > the magazine in question wouldn't last one year, let alone 50,
> like
> > Playboy has!
> >
> > Newsflash: this isn't the 1950s anymore. In the 21st century,
sex
> > sells, lingerie is big business, and women posing in sexy
bikinis
> is
> > not as scandalous in this day and age as you're making it out to
> be.
> >
> > --- In
> >
Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com, "Cindy"
> > <cindybin2001@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh for heaven's sake, it does NOT say I'm a "prude". Just
> because
> > > you think it's terrible for young women to gyrate their bodies
> in
> > > these obscene positions in skimpy swimsuits on national
> television
> > > does not mean you are a prude. I think most people would agree
> > with
> > > me on this. I don't know anybody who would pose like this.
It's
> > > kinda sad; makes you wonder how these young ladies were
raised,
> if
> > > they think nothing of doing things like this. And then
somebody
> > like
> > > you, to say such an insulting thing to a grown woman. Geez!
> > >
> > > --- In
Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com,
> > > movieman26@h... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I mean, if a fellow woman would approve of these women in
> such
> > > > poses, what does that say?
> > > >
> > > > It says you're a prude.
> > > >
> > > > --- In
> > > >
> >
Sports_Illustrated_Swimsuit_Model_Search@yahoogroups.com, "Cindy"
> > > > <cindybin2001@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I caught a few minutes of this show when it first ran, and
> was
> > > > > shocked! I couldn't believe the positions these young
women
> > were
> > > > > posing in; on their hands and knees with their butts
> sticking
> > up
> > > > in
> > > > > the air, gyrating around in skimpy swimsuits, etc. And
then
> > > there
> > > > > were actually women along with men in charge of this
thing,
> > > making
> > > > > it seem like it's okay. I mean, if a fellow woman would
> > approve
> > > of
> > > > > these women in such poses, what does that say? And then
> guys,
> > > > > especially young guys--watching this show will think that
> it's
> > > > okay
> > > > > for women to be gyrating around in such suggestive moves.
> It's
> > > > just
> > > > > not right. I can't believe these young women would do this
> on
> > > > > national TV. Does anyone know where I can write to the
> people
> > in
> > > > > charge of this show? I found the official website but
there
> is
> > > no
> > > > > mailing address.