--- In ParentsforChildren@yahoogroups.com, "Joyce" <joyce_welsh@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi, Bryan,
>
> Can you call me at 925-229-2544- This is Joyce L. Welsh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bryang722003
> To: ParentsforChildren@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:04 PM
> Subject: [ParentsforChildren] new to group - fighting seymour
rose
>
>
> hello all,
>
> I am a memeber of a couple groups similar to this. I am located
in
> California, near San Frransisco. My case has been going on for
three
> years now. I have been fighting CPS, the police, my ax and her
> attorney. Not much different a story than others caughtup in the
> system. I am representing myself. it got too expensive.
>
> My ex has an attorney named seymour rose here in the walnut
creek
> area. I saw that someone had put some posts about him on the
website
> under abuse and complaints. I am looking for advise on how to
stop
> his constant lying and delaying tactics. he has never offered
any
> proof or evidence to suggest im unfit to parent but he sure can
> confuse the issue and get delays.
>
> if anyone knows more about him and/or some sound advice im open
to all
> good suggestions.
>
I went through the same.Their are state family laews on the
internet.Go through them,believe me,it makes a huge difference.you
will understand what the lawyer and judge are saying and you'll know
when to object.aslo,when you file with the court or while you'r in
court.Ask the judge to give you a copy or report of all charges or
complaints about you that the lawyer is says.contine to do
this.whenever the lawyer says something is not true.sounds stupid i
know.however its just like the delay tactics the lawyer uses.if he
has no evidence the judge will have to tell him to not bring anymore
alligations into court with out proff.this will not happen over
night.when the judge goes for one of the delay tricks,be sure to ask
for some type of visit.tell the judge that you are willing to do
supervisored visits.not what you want,but if you keep restating
this.judge has to give you so type of visit if their is no
proff.also go to the local socil services and ask them to
investatgate you.tell them why.that you want the report sent to the
judge.alot of this may sound crazy,but it works.been their and done
that from new york.good luck!

--- In ParentsforChildren@yahoogroups.com, "Joyce" <joyce_welsh@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi, Bryan,
>
> Can you call me at 925-229-2544- This is Joyce L. Welsh
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: bryang722003
>   To: ParentsforChildren@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:04 PM
>   Subject: [ParentsforChildren] new to group - fighting seymour
rose
>
>
>   hello all,
>
>   I am a memeber of a couple groups similar to this. I am located
in
>   California, near San Frransisco. My case has been going on for
three
>   years now. I have been fighting CPS, the police, my ax and her
>   attorney. Not much different a story than others caughtup in the
>   system. I am representing myself. it got too expensive.
>
>   My ex has an attorney named seymour rose here in the walnut
creek
>   area. I saw that someone had put some posts about him on the
website
>   under abuse and complaints. I am looking for advise on how to
stop
>   his constant lying and delaying tactics. he has never offered
any
>   proof or evidence to suggest im unfit to parent but he sure can
>   confuse the issue and get delays.
>
>   if anyone knows more about him and/or some sound advice im open
to all
>   good suggestions.
>
I went through the same.Their are state family laews on the
internet.Go through them,believe me,it makes a huge difference.you
will understand what the lawyer and judge are saying and you'll know
when to object.aslo,when you file with the court or while you'r in
court.Ask the judge to give you a copy or report of all charges or
complaints about you that the lawyer is says.contine to do
this.whenever the lawyer says something is not true.sounds stupid i
know.however its just like the delay tactics the lawyer uses.if he
has no evidence the judge will have to tell him to not bring anymore
alligations into court with out proff.this will not happen over
night.when the judge goes for one of the delay tricks,be sure to ask
for some type of visit.tell the judge that you are willing to do
supervisored visits.not what you want,but if you keep restating
this.judge has to give you so type of visit if their is no
proff.also go to the local socil services and ask them to
investatgate you.tell them why.that you want the report sent to the
judge.alot of this may sound crazy,but it works.been their and done
that from new york.good luck!

----- Original Message -----

From: bryang722003

To: ParentsforChildren@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:04 PM

Subject: [ParentsforChildren] new to group - fighting seymour rose

hello all,

I am a memeber of a couple groups similar to this. I am located in
California, near San Frransisco. My case has been going on for three
years now. I have been fighting CPS, the police, my ax and her
attorney. Not much different a story than others caughtup in the
system. I am representing myself. it got too expensive.

My ex has an attorney named seymour rose here in the walnut creek
area. I saw that someone had put some posts about him on the website
under abuse and complaints. I am looking for advise on how to stop
his constant lying and delaying tactics. he has never offered any
proof or evidence to suggest im unfit to parent but he sure can
confuse the issue and get delays.

if anyone knows more about him and/or some sound advice im open to all
good suggestions.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "bryang722003" <bryang722003@...>

hello all,

I am a memeber of a couple groups similar to this. I am located in
California, near San Frransisco. My case has been going on for three
years now. I have been fighting CPS, the police, my ax and her
attorney. Not much different a story than others caughtup in the
system. I am representing myself. it got too expensive.

My ex has an attorney named seymour rose here in the walnut creek
area. I saw that someone had put some posts about him on the website
under abuse and complaints. I am looking for advise on how to stop
his constant lying and delaying tactics. he has never offered any
proof or evidence to suggest im unfit to parent but he sure can
confuse the issue and get delays.

if anyone knows more about him and/or some sound advice im open to all
good suggestions.

hello all,

I am a memeber of a  couple groups similar to this.  I am located in
California, near San Frransisco.  My case has been  going on for three
years now.  I have been fighting CPS, the police, my ax and her
attorney.  Not much different a story than others caughtup in the
system. I am representing myself. it got too expensive.

My ex has an attorney named seymour rose here in the walnut creek
area.  I saw that someone had put some posts about him on the website
under abuse and complaints.  I am looking for advise on how to stop
his constant lying and delaying tactics.  he has never offered any
proof or evidence to suggest im unfit to parent but he sure can
confuse the issue and get delays.

if anyone knows more about him and/or some sound advice im open to all
good suggestions.

HI,
Thanks for checking up on me - I was out of town and just got back
in. As for the interview, it went like this.
I spoke with several people in the organizations that help people
with CPS - one of them was an attorney in Grand Ledge who, after
talking to me, suggested I let them in the house, talk to them and
recognize that yes, I should not have let my kids that far before
calling the police and that yes, they should have known thier
address and telephone and that yes, I will make improvements to
this. I was really scared, but when the lady came to my door, I went
out and said that I was quite worried about letting her in because i
heard some really nasty stuff about CPS, but, per an attorney
advice, I'm going to let her in, anyway.
She came in, asked us the routine name/age/work/etc etc stuff. Then
she asked about my different cats, then talked for a bit about her
experiance in law school (I noticed she had JD behind her name and
since I'm hoping to attend Cooley in the upcoming months, I asked
her about it). After about 10 minutes of chatting, she finally asked
what happend with the kids. I told her the truth about what happened
and included in that that the kids, since the incidence, have
learned thier address and phone number and we've locked up the bikes
so that they can't get access without help and we realize just how
scarey this was, how much damage could have been done and that never
again will we wait an hour to call for help. The worker then said
she was very pleased with our plan for improvement, immediatly
packed up her stuff and said "have fun this summer, you won't be
hearing from me or the agency again" and showed her way out the
door - it's been about 2 1/2 weeks and I haven't heard anything -
hopefully it'll stay like that. I don't know why they didn't pick on
me but either way, I still think the system needs fixed, here in MI,
and in all the other states. I hope I can help out PFC - if there's
ever a rally or protest, don't hesistate to contact me.

Jessica


--- In ParentsforChildren@yahoogroups.com, Janet Frederick-Wilson
<janetfrederickwilson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jessica,
>   I'm doing a follow-up. How are things going. Did the CPS worker
do the interview? Please let us know what happened. Janet
>
> Jessica <jessicanemechek32@...> wrote:
>           Hi,
> I found the partens for children website and thought i'd join the
> group - first I'm here cause I need some general advice, but also,
I
> want to help fight for changes in the system - the articles I read
> on the abuse by FIA is just amazingly sick. Anyway, here's my
story:
> Here's my story:
> This saturday morning, at 9am, My 2 boys, 6 and 8, decided on
thier
> own to take off down the road on thier bikes to the pharmacy to
buy
> paper. They have never left the front of our house on thier bikes,
> and that saturday they were playing in the back yard, as usual,
and
> decided on a spur to take off. I noticed they were gone within 10 -
> 15 minutes and immediatly starting searching the huge subdivision
> with over 200 houses in it and lots of streets. At first I thought
> they were on foot and had went to garage sales just a block away
or
> something and probably heehawinga around or are lost ( I don't let
> them go out of yard without a parent, but if they were going to
take
> off, that would be my first guess) when I came back from searching
> to switch with my husband for him to go out and search for them, I
> noticed the bikes were gone. Still, I really never thought of
> looking down the busy street where the local stores are since it
> seemed most likely that they were lost in a large subdivision, not
> run off down the road they have never been down. I thought there
was
> no way they'd even try it - too scared for sure! (wrong!) All this
> happened in the same hour - and during that hour, one of us stayed
> home incase the boys came back, and one of us went out driving up
> and down the streets, asking nieghbors, blowing a whistle and
> searching for the kids. At one point I decide to see if, just by a
> fat chance, they did cross the street and go down the road on the
> bike trail - I took the car and went, but didn't see them or thier
> bikes, so I came back home and my husband took off to continue
> searching the immediate area. I got my mother on the phone to ask
> her if it was too soon to bug the police - she said no, call now
and
> I hung up and started to call the police station.
>
> In that same hour, the police got 2 calls during this time about
my
> boys riding on the road with their bikes and through a busy
> intersection to get to Rite Aid. The police picked up the kids and
> brought them home to me, pulling up in my drive just as I dialed
the
> police for help. Yes, we waited an hour to pick up the phone to
> call the police as we didn't want to go over board and thought
they
> would tell us 24 hours must go by anyway.
> The officer brought up a few concerns - here they are and my
answer:
> 1. The kids took off on thier own and I didn't call right away for
> help- my answer was that I never expected them to cross onto the
> busy street and thought they were just lost in the subdivision -
and
> I was calling right as they pulled up.
> 2. The kids didn't know traffic safety for bike riding - my answer
> was OF course they don't, we don't take them down that busy
street,
> they are TOO young! They only ride right in front of our idle
> street, with us watching - basically circles in the driveway.
> 3. the kids didn't know thier address and phone number: My answer -

> we just bought our house in March and they know parts of it, they
> are working on it, I can't MAKE them learn it faster than thier
> little brains allow.
> I've never had MIchigan's CPS/FIA to my house before this time.
> I was told by the officer that they had to call CPS due to them
> getting more than 1 call on this, they got 2 calls about the boys
in
> the street- how worried should I be and, should I not let them in?
> I'm worried that not letting them in will lead to them harrassing
us
> more,. And that hiring an attorney before they even get out here
> will make them think we have something to be worried about - we
> don't, other than them, the CPS. We are located in Okemos, MI,
> Ingrahm county. I stay at home with the boys and my husband works.
> We are young parents - 25 & 26, but live in the middle class part
of
> Okemos. I only say this because I don't think we'd come off as
easy
> targets in the way of not being able to defend our selfs. I know
> friends of mine in other states have been really harrassed and we
> really think it's because they came off not wealthy enough to hire
> an attorney - because as soon as the friend told the agency she
> wouldn't talk to them without an attorney present, they left her
> alone. Anyway, I don't have the money either for an attorney but
you
> know what I mean, they target anything that might be low income
and
> I think we come off as just average middle class young parents.
> Please advise - part of me says to just be cordial and go outside
to
> talk to them and tell them the same story as what's on the report
> and then part says, don't even answer the door if they come. Is
not
> answering the door an option?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jessica
>
>
>
>
>
>  __________________________________________________
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"hello", we are another Michigan family of many fighting for
parenting time that has already been court ordered! Sal

Did you know that there are over 28 million parents who are bereaved
of their children in the U S alone?

Yet everyday parents, men and women alike, sit and watch highly elect-
able pretty polished politicians passionately wax eloquent about
freedom and liberty for countries whose names we can not pronounce
while divorced American parents sit alone stripped of their family
and finances?

We see mainstream politicians talk about protecting the rights of
imprisoned terrorists while everyday they let honest American parents
get robbed and illegally imprisoned in debtor's prison.

Concerned political experts do not want you to throw away your vote
on a spoiler but they voice no concern over the millions of parents
who throw away their lives and commit suicide because they are
bereaved of their children.

Pseudo-intellectuals would have you to be concerned about ozone and
taxes while divorced parents are made homeless and destitute by
biased judges whose only concern is federal reimbursements for
oppressive support demands.

Some humanitarians pride themselves for forgiving Africa's debt and
providing relief for homeless flood victims in Asia, but what about
relieving and forgiving indebted homeless American divorced parents?

Some leaders would have you marching in the street to protect the
family from homosexual marriage but they will not utter one word
about the annihilation of heterosexual marriage by a fifty-percent
divorce rate.

Parenting rights effects everybody. Children, grandparents, "second"
wives, "second" husbands as well as the divorced parents themselves.

After laboring hard in school and in their businesses, practices and
jobs many people, business men and women and employees wake up to
find their family and their finances ravaged by corrupt judges even
after spending thousands of dollars on "good" attorneys.

We find no fair portrayal of our plight by the media.

We find no champion for our cause among the refined, articulate and
picture perfect federal politicians.

We find the parent's rights groups fractured and under funded.

We need a Jessie Jackson to espouse civil rights for parents.

We need a Rosa Parks to say I am not going to accept you treating me
as a second class citizen anymore.

Divorced parents need to develop a clear concise voting block each
election cycle rather than "throw away" our votes and money on
politicians who will not even acknowledge the existence of over 28
million parents who are bereaved of their children.

Can this be done?

Well if there were over 28 million disgruntled parents pushing your
buttons, would you jump?

We need to confront political candidates on these issues.

Martin Luther King never won a political office yet his individual
stand avalanched into a huge change for civil rights in America
because he caused everyone to focus by putting a face on the just
cause of civil rights.

State by state judicial reform could take a lifetime.

Case by case individual battles have gotten us no where.

Just as African-Americans needed a national level civil rights act,
parents need a national level Equal Parenting and Custody Act.

We will all hang together or we will continue to be hung separately.

Twenty years from now will you be a civil rights hero, or will you
have to tell people you just sat on your hands in the back of the bus
while your manhood/womanhood and your civil rights were stripped
away?

Your comments are always welcome either here or by email at
TheOutlawWolf@hotmail.com

Also feel free to visit my blog at http://outlaw-wolf.efx2.com/

Robert Magee aka The Outlaw Wolf

 Hello, and I read your letter with disbelief and horror. (that is the treatment and facts brought against you as a mother)

 

I do not know your name...and really feel as though you have been cornered, and shafted.

 

This has become the norm in our society, and although it is injustice, biased and can be proven in the court, if and when someone takes the case and fights for your rights-you will not be able to have fair and impartial treatment.

In order to fight for a case, you have to have funds, and as a mother, working full time, I can not even afford an attorney (one that can do a excellent job-not just a paper pusher) myself or suggest anything other than what I found available.

I suggest a few things, given I am not a lawyer or know all the laws, but I do know that you need to work with other parents and bring together the 'raw' deal in which you have become familiar with in your situation, to the surface.

Its a lot of work, and takes studying and hours of searching, but you can do it.

Write to the Congress, make complaints, find the laws in your area and work with them. Understand Prop 59, U. S. Constitutional, your civil liberties, your States Family Code and submit documents into court. There are services that offer free consultation in your state, find them, get with an attorney for information, how to file documents, how to present yourself and what to do. I have addresses for you in case you would like to write and locate someone that would direct you in the right direction. Again, I am not a lawyer, by far, could not rape or rob from someone in need....but I am in the same boat as you, fighting for justice. 

 

Support groups and writing is what I have done....plus you might try to find someone like, Victim Witness Program, to assist in discovery, or help heal you in the process. Meaning, Healing as a good thing, and someone to listen to you and stick up for you when you need it.

 

I have spoken to a man that had this happen recently, he had lost his son to the courts, under very cruel and biased means, his son today resides with him, and has nothing to do with his mother. Just remember that your children have been forced into something that is out of their control, and they have to conform to their new environment to survive. But that does not mean that they will forget about you, ever. They will some day be able to come home.....just keep that hope alive and so all that you can to stay connected. Write to them, but copy the letters you send for evidence, when they are older and ask why you never wrote-you will be able to show them how much you cared....

 Stay strong and gather friends, family and others that are going through what you have gone through........

Last and not least, get the information out, take out the emotions in your letter, build proof and start looking for others connected to your case....that includes doctors, child care, personal letters from people that know you (make sure to submit with Under the state of ..... , perjury....true and correct...  Speak to the school that your children attend, and get them to send you report cards....

Ask someone in the courts, by going there and signing up for help with your case, more direction....other things that you may be able to do....anything that will keep you on the right track, and would bring peace of mind that you did everything available in order to make it right.

 

Don't get hopes up further than what would be reality...the courts do not work like they were intended to.

 

I will listen to you and help the best I can.......and wish you strength and an angel to be on your side-for the love and nurture of having your children back in your arms.....

 

Sincerely,

Joyce Welsh

925-229-2544

California... If you can not call me, I will call you.....ok.

   but you do not hi

 

In order to S has become the norm in our society a_,___

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When I wrote my letters like this, I got responses back.  My responses said the same thing.  We will not get involved in any family court matter nor will we influence the judges decision.  What do you think of that?

IT'S A OUTRAGE, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO CAUSE PUBLIC OUTRAGE, OUR STORIES MUST BE MADE PUBLIC. THERE STRENGTH IS IN THEIR CONCEALMEANT. WE MUST BRING OUR STORIES TO THE LIGHT.

 

PLEASE SIGN BOTH OF MY PETITIONS AND PASS IT ON. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR CONCERNS.

 

S.J

my3redrozes@aol.com wrote:

When I wrote my letters like this, I got responses back.  My responses said the same thing.  We will not get involved in any family court matter nor will we influence the judges decision.  What do you think of that?

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Hi,
I found the partens for children website and thought i'd join the
group - first I'm here cause I need some general advice, but also, I
want to help fight for changes in the system - the articles I read
on the abuse by FIA is just amazingly sick. Anyway, here's my story:
Here's my story:
This saturday morning, at 9am, My 2 boys, 6 and 8, decided on thier
own to take off down the road on thier bikes to the pharmacy to buy
paper. They have never left the front of our house on thier bikes,
and that saturday they were playing in the back yard, as usual, and
decided on a spur to take off. I noticed they were gone within 10 -
15 minutes and immediatly starting searching the huge subdivision
with over 200 houses in it and lots of streets. At first I thought
they were on foot and had went to garage sales just a block away or
something and probably heehawinga around or are lost ( I don't let
them go out of yard without a parent, but if they were going to take
off, that would be my first guess) when I came back from searching
to switch with my husband for him to go out and search for them, I
noticed the bikes were gone. Still, I really never thought of
looking down the busy street where the local stores are since it
seemed most likely that they were lost in a large subdivision, not
run off down the road they have never been down. I thought there was
no way they'd even try it - too scared for sure! (wrong!) All this
happened in the same hour - and during that hour, one of us stayed
home incase the boys came back, and one of us went out driving up
and down the streets, asking nieghbors, blowing a whistle and
searching for the kids. At one point I decide to see if, just by a
fat chance, they did cross the street and go down the road on the
bike trail - I took the car and went, but didn't see them or thier
bikes, so I came back home and my husband took off to continue
searching the immediate area. I got my mother on the phone to ask
her if it was too soon to bug the police - she said no, call now and
I hung up and started to call the police station.

In that same hour, the police got 2 calls during this time about my
boys riding on the road with their bikes and through a busy
intersection to get to Rite Aid. The police picked up the kids and
brought them home to me, pulling up in my drive just as I dialed the
police for help. Yes, we waited an hour to pick up the phone to
call the police as we didn't want to go over board and thought they
would tell us 24 hours must go by anyway.
The officer brought up a few concerns - here they are and my answer:
1. The kids took off on thier own and I didn't call right away for
help- my answer was that I never expected them to cross onto the
busy street and thought they were just lost in the subdivision - and
I was calling right as they pulled up.
2. The kids didn't know traffic safety for bike riding - my answer
was OF course they don't, we don't take them down that busy street,
they are TOO young! They only ride right in front of our idle
street, with us watching - basically circles in the driveway.
3. the kids didn't know thier address and phone number: My answer -
we just bought our house in March and they know parts of it, they
are working on it, I can't MAKE them learn it faster than thier
little brains allow.
I've never had MIchigan's CPS/FIA to my house before this time.
I was told by the officer that they had to call CPS due to them
getting more than 1 call on this, they got 2 calls about the boys in
the street- how worried should I be and, should I not let them in?
I'm worried that not letting them in will lead to them harrassing us
more,. And that hiring an attorney before they even get out here
will make them think we have something to be worried about - we
don't, other than them, the CPS. We are located in Okemos, MI,
Ingrahm county. I stay at home with the boys and my husband works.
We are young parents - 25 & 26, but live in the middle class part of
Okemos. I only say this because I don't think we'd come off as easy
targets in the way of not being able to defend our selfs. I know
friends of mine in other states have been really harrassed and we
really think it's because they came off not wealthy enough to hire
an attorney - because as soon as the friend told the agency she
wouldn't talk to them without an attorney present, they left her
alone. Anyway, I don't have the money either for an attorney but you
know what I mean, they target anything that might be low income and
I think we come off as just average middle class young parents.
Please advise - part of me says to just be cordial and go outside to
talk to them and tell them the same story as what's on the report
and then part says, don't even answer the door if they come. Is not
answering the door an option?

Thanks!

Jessica

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All of us families need help.  I have little money also, and have no defense as a result, but I would not go begging for money for my own case on the internet.  I would happily donate money to bring a class action lawsuit against my own county courts, but I certainly am not donating to a family in the same boat as myself for their own personal case. I think it is highly inappropriate to even ask for donations for people's personal cases in this forum!!!  If we focus on each single case.....the courts win.  We need to focus on fighting the BIG WAR not the little battles or this will continue for others not yet affected by the system.  I can't live with that! 

 

Keri Ann

--
Before you were conceived, I wanted you!
Before you were born, I Loved you!
Before you were a minute old, I would have died for you!

 

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From: "fightinjustice111" <myyahoogroupsmail@gmail.com>

PLEASE POST ANYWHERE THAT YOU CAN

http://pleasehelpthisfamily.blogspot.com

You may remember a case from about four years ago, in which a widow
and single mother, asked Human Health Services for help in getting
her children on Medicaid. Instead of doing their jobs and giving
them the help they needed, Children's Protective Services (CPS)
filed a Child In Need Of Services (CHINS act) order using her own
words that she needed help, against her, and took her son from her.

They were only after the Widow and Survivor benefits and the proof
being, they didn't take the second child as she received no check,
as she had a different father. They stalked her day and night
physically and on the internet. However, the mother never gave up
trying and in the interim got fired two pubic defenders, a case
worker and her supervisor from practicing in that county. She proved
Malicious Prosecution, Collusion and Conspiracy between the fired
individuals. She won her child back, but the damage had already been
done. Due to the brainwashing, the child was told his mother never
loved him that she only wanted his check, he now has emotional
problems they are trying to deal with. Due to the drugs administered
to keep him quiet, he is suffering from an irregular heart, and
muscle lesions. From the "hoop jumping she had to do, it left them
financially devasted and with the lack of income the family lost
their farm, vehicles, pets, and of course had sold all of their
belongings to fight CPS.

Now, CPS (known as DYS in her current state of residence), is going
after her again in retaliation for her proving them malicious. This
family has a wonderful case and a great attorney ready to help her
prove malicious intent. When she wins, it will set precedence for
all of us in the future. It will prove that no one can come in and
interrogate and abuse our children for their own financial benefits,
and stop the grazing for children in the name of funding for their
offices.

We NEED to help her afford this attorney so she can get the case
started.

This is the same mother, who over the years, has been instrumental
in the return of many children by working countless hours for many
of us in the same situation, and has never asked for anything in
return.

Keep in your heart, this quote from Edmund Burke: "All that is
necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing."

Won't you please help in this cause, and donate $1.00 or more to her
defense fund. She is more than willing to inform you of more on this
cause if you wish to speak with her. Please follow this link.
http://pleasehelpthisfamily.blogspot.com

Did you know that there are over 28 million parents who are bereaved
of their children in the U S alone?

Yet everyday parents, men and women alike, sit and watch highly elect-
able pretty polished politicians passionately wax eloquent about
freedom and liberty for countries whose names we can not pronounce
while divorced American parents sit alone stripped of their family
and finances?

We see mainstream politicians talk about protecting the rights of
imprisoned terrorists while everyday they let honest American parents
get robbed and illegally imprisoned in debtor's prison.

Concerned political experts do not want you to throw away your vote
on a spoiler but they voice no concern over the millions of parents
who throw away their lives and commit suicide because they are
bereaved of their children.

Pseudo-intellectuals would have you to be concerned about ozone and
taxes while divorced parents are made homeless and destitute by
biased judges whose only concern is federal reimbursements for
oppressive support demands.

Some humanitarians pride themselves for forgiving Africa's debt and
providing relief for homeless flood victims in Asia, but what about
relieving and forgiving indebted homeless American divorced parents?

Some leaders would have you marching in the street to protect the
family from homosexual marriage but they will not utter one word
about the annihilation of heterosexual marriage by a fifty-percent
divorce rate.

Parenting rights effects everybody. Children, grandparents, "second"
wives, "second" husbands as well as the divorced parents themselves.

After laboring hard in school and in their businesses, practices and
jobs many people, business men and women and employees wake up to
find their family and their finances ravaged by corrupt judges even
after spending thousands of dollars on "good" attorneys.

We find no fair portrayal of our plight by the media.

We find no champion for our cause among the refined, articulate and
picture perfect federal politicians.

We find the parent's rights groups fractured and under funded.

We need a Jessie Jackson to espouse civil rights for parents.

We need a Rosa Parks to say I am not going to accept you treating me
as a second class citizen anymore.

Divorced parents need to develop a clear concise voting block each
election cycle rather than "throw away" our votes and money on
politicians who will not even acknowledge the existence of over 28
million parents who are bereaved of their children.

Can this be done?

Well if there were over 28 million disgruntled parents pushing your
buttons, would you jump?

We need to confront political candidates on these issues.

Martin Luther King never won a political office yet his individual
stand avalanched into a huge change for civil rights in America
because he caused everyone to focus by putting a face on the just
cause of civil rights.

State by state judicial reform could take a lifetime.

Case by case individual battles have gotten us no where.

Just as African-Americans needed a national level civil rights act,
parents need a national level Equal Parenting and Custody Act.

We will all hang together or we will continue to be hung separately.

Twenty years from now will you be a civil rights hero, or will you
have to tell people you just sat on your hands in the back of the bus
while your manhood/womanhood and your civil rights were stripped
away?

Your comments are always welcome either here or by email at
TheOutlawWolf@...

Also feel free to visit my blog at http://outlaw-wolf.efx2.com/

Robert Magee aka The Outlaw Wolf

--- In ParentsforChildren@yahoogroups.com, cocococourtsrcorrupt@...
wrote:

All of us families need help.  I have little money also, and have no
defense as a result, but I would not go begging for money for my own
case on the internet.  I would happily donate money to bring a class
action lawsuit against my own county courts, but I certainly am not
donating to a family in the same boat as myself for their own
personal case. I think it is highly inappropriate to even ask for
donations for people's personal cases in this forum!!!  If we focus
on each single case.....the courts win.  We need to focus on fighting
the BIG WAR not the little battles or this will continue for others
not yet affected by the system.  I can't live with that!

Keri Ann
--
Before you were conceived, I wanted you!
Before you were born, I Loved you!
Before you were a minute old, I would have died for you!

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "fightinjustice111" <myyahoogroupsmail@...>
PLEASE POST ANYWHERE THAT YOU CAN

http://pleasehelpthisfamily.blogspot.com

You may remember a case from about four years ago, in which a widow
and single mother, asked Human Health Services for help in getting
her children on Medicaid. Instead of doing their jobs and giving
them the help they needed, Children's Protective Services (CPS)
filed a Child In Need Of Services (CHINS act) order using her own
words that she needed help, against her, and took her son from her.

They were only after the Widow and Survivor benefits and the proof
being, they didn't take the second child as she received no check,
as she had a different father. They stalked her day and night
physically and on the internet. However, the mother never gave up
trying and in the interim got fired two pubic defenders, a case
worker and her supervisor from practicing in that county. She proved
Malicious Prosecution, Collusion and Conspiracy between the fired
individuals. She won her child back, but the damage had already been
done. Due to the brainwashing, the child was told his mother never
loved him that she only wanted his check, he now has emotional
problems they are trying to deal with. Due to the drugs administered
to keep him quiet, he is suffering from an irregular heart, and
muscle lesions. From the "hoop jumping she had to do, it left them
financially devasted and with the lack of income the family lost
their farm, vehicles, pets, and of course had sold all of their
belongings to fight CPS.

Now, CPS (known as DYS in her current state of residence), is going
after her again in retaliation for her proving them malicious. This
family has a wonderful case and a great attorney ready to help her
prove malicious intent. When she wins, it will set precedence for
all of us in the future. It will prove that no one can come in and
interrogate and abuse our children for their own financial benefits,
and stop the grazing for children in the name of funding for their
offices.

We NEED to help her afford this attorney so she can get the case
started.

This is the same mother, who over the years, has been instrumental
in the return of many children by working countless hours for many
of us in the same situation, and has never asked for anything in
return.

Keep in your heart, this quote from Edmund Burke: "All that is
necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing."

Won't you please help in this cause, and donate $1.00 or more to her
defense fund. She is more than willing to inform you of more on this
cause if you wish to speak with her. Please follow this link.
http://pleasehelpthisfamily.blogspot.com

--- End forwarded message ---

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "fightinjustice111" <myyahoogroupsmail@...>

PLEASE POST ANYWHERE THAT YOU CAN

http://pleasehelpthisfamily.blogspot.com

You may remember a case from about four years ago, in which a widow
and single mother, asked Human Health Services for help in getting
her children on Medicaid. Instead of doing their jobs and giving
them the help they needed, Children's Protective Services (CPS)
filed a Child In Need Of Services (CHINS act) order using her own
words that she needed help, against her, and took her son from her.

They were only after the Widow and Survivor benefits and the proof
being, they didn't take the second child as she received no check,
as she had a different father. They stalked her day and night
physically and on the internet. However, the mother never gave up
trying and in the interim got fired two pubic defenders, a case
worker and her supervisor from practicing in that county. She proved
Malicious Prosecution, Collusion and Conspiracy between the fired
individuals. She won her child back, but the damage had already been
done. Due to the brainwashing, the child was told his mother never
loved him that she only wanted his check, he now has emotional
problems they are trying to deal with. Due to the drugs administered
to keep him quiet, he is suffering from an irregular heart, and
muscle lesions. From the "hoop jumping she had to do, it left them
financially devasted and with the lack of income the family lost
their farm, vehicles, pets, and of course had sold all of their
belongings to fight CPS.

Now, CPS (known as DYS in her current state of residence), is going
after her again in retaliation for her proving them malicious. This
family has a wonderful case and a great attorney ready to help her
prove malicious intent. When she wins, it will set precedence for
all of us in the future. It will prove that no one can come in and
interrogate and abuse our children for their own financial benefits,
and stop the grazing for children in the name of funding for their
offices.

We NEED to help her afford this attorney so she can get the case
started.

This is the same mother, who over the years, has been instrumental
in the return of many children by working countless hours for many
of us in the same situation, and has never asked for anything in
return.

Keep in your heart, this quote from Edmund Burke: "All that is
necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing."

Won't you please help in this cause, and donate $1.00 or more to her
defense fund. She is more than willing to inform you of more on this
cause if you wish to speak with her. Please follow this link.
http://pleasehelpthisfamily.blogspot.com

PLEASE POST ANYWHERE THAT YOU CAN

http://pleasehelpthisfamily.blogspot.com

You may remember a case from about four years ago, in which a widow
and single mother, asked Human Health Services for help in getting
her children on Medicaid. Instead of doing their jobs and giving
them the help they needed, Children's Protective Services (CPS)
filed a Child In Need Of Services (CHINS act) order using her own
words that she needed help, against her, and took her son from her.

They were only after the Widow and Survivor benefits and the proof
being, they didn't take the second child as she received no check,
as she had a different father. They stalked her day and night
physically and on the internet. However, the mother never gave up
trying and in the interim got fired two pubic defenders, a case
worker and her supervisor from practicing in that county. She proved
Malicious Prosecution, Collusion and Conspiracy between the fired
individuals. She won her child back, but the damage had already been
done. Due to the brainwashing, the child was told his mother never
loved him that she only wanted his check, he now has emotional
problems they are trying to deal with. Due to the drugs administered
to keep him quiet, he is suffering from an irregular heart, and
muscle lesions. From the "hoop jumping she had to do, it left them
financially devasted and with the lack of income the family lost
their farm, vehicles, pets, and of course had sold all of their
belongings to fight CPS.

Now, CPS (known as DYS in her current state of residence), is going
after her again in retaliation for her proving them malicious. This
family has a wonderful case and a great attorney ready to help her
prove malicious intent. When she wins, it will set precedence for
all of us in the future. It will prove that no one can come in and
interrogate and abuse our children for their own financial benefits,
and stop the grazing for children in the name of funding for their
offices.

We NEED to help her afford this attorney so she can get the case
started.

This is the same mother, who over the years, has been instrumental
in the return of many children by working countless hours for many
of us in the same situation, and has never asked for anything in
return.

Keep in your heart, this quote from Edmund Burke: "All that is
necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing."

Won't you please help in this cause, and donate $1.00 or more to her
defense fund. She is more than willing to inform you of more on this
cause if you wish to speak with her. Please follow this link.
http://pleasehelpthisfamily.blogspot.com

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Jessica" <jessicanemechek32@...>

Hi,
I found the partens for children website and thought i'd join the
group - first I'm here cause I need some general advice, but also, I
want to help fight for changes in the system - the articles I read
on the abuse by FIA is just amazingly sick. Anyway, here's my story:
Here's my story:
This saturday morning, at 9am, My 2 boys, 6 and 8, decided on thier
own to take off down the road on thier bikes to the pharmacy to buy
paper. They have never left the front of our house on thier bikes,
and that saturday they were playing in the back yard, as usual, and
decided on a spur to take off. I noticed they were gone within 10 -
15 minutes and immediatly starting searching the huge subdivision
with over 200 houses in it and lots of streets. At first I thought
they were on foot and had went to garage sales just a block away or
something and probably heehawinga around or are lost ( I don't let
them go out of yard without a parent, but if they were going to take
off, that would be my first guess) when I came back from searching
to switch with my husband for him to go out and search for them, I
noticed the bikes were gone. Still, I really never thought of
looking down the busy street where the local stores are since it
seemed most likely that they were lost in a large subdivision, not
run off down the road they have never been down. I thought there was
no way they'd even try it - too scared for sure! (wrong!) All this
happened in the same hour - and during that hour, one of us stayed
home incase the boys came back, and one of us went out driving up
and down the streets, asking nieghbors, blowing a whistle and
searching for the kids. At one point I decide to see if, just by a
fat chance, they did cross the street and go down the road on the
bike trail - I took the car and went, but didn't see them or thier
bikes, so I came back home and my husband took off to continue
searching the immediate area. I got my mother on the phone to ask
her if it was too soon to bug the police - she said no, call now and
I hung up and started to call the police station.

In that same hour, the police got 2 calls during this time about my
boys riding on the road with their bikes and through a busy
intersection to get to Rite Aid. The police picked up the kids and
brought them home to me, pulling up in my drive just as I dialed the
police for help. Yes, we waited an hour to pick up the phone to
call the police as we didn't want to go over board and thought they
would tell us 24 hours must go by anyway.
The officer brought up a few concerns - here they are and my answer:
1. The kids took off on thier own and I didn't call right away for
help- my answer was that I never expected them to cross onto the
busy street and thought they were just lost in the subdivision - and
I was calling right as they pulled up.
2. The kids didn't know traffic safety for bike riding - my answer
was OF course they don't, we don't take them down that busy street,
they are TOO young! They only ride right in front of our idle
street, with us watching - basically circles in the driveway.
3. the kids didn't know thier address and phone number: My answer -
we just bought our house in March and they know parts of it, they
are working on it, I can't MAKE them learn it faster than thier
little brains allow.
I've never had MIchigan's CPS/FIA to my house before this time.
I was told by the officer that they had to call CPS due to them
getting more than 1 call on this, they got 2 calls about the boys in
the street- how worried should I be and, should I not let them in?
I'm worried that not letting them in will lead to them harrassing us
more,. And that hiring an attorney before they even get out here
will make them think we have something to be worrie d about - we
don't, other than them, the CPS. We are located in Okemos, MI,
Ingrahm county. I stay at home with the boys and my husband works.
We are young parents - 25 & 26, but live in the middle class part of
Okemos. I only say this because I don't think we'd come off as easy
targets in the way of not being able to defend our selfs. I know
friends of mine in other states have been really harrassed and we
really think it's because they came off not wealthy enough to hire
an attorney - because as soon as the friend told the agency she
wouldn't talk to them without an attorney present, they left her
alone. Anyway, I don't have the money either for an attorney but you
know what I mean, they target anything that might be low income and
I think we come off as just average middle class young parents.
Please advise - part of me says to just be cordial and go outside to
talk to them and tell them the same story as what's on the report
and then part says, don't even answer the door if they come. Is not
answering the door an option?

Thanks!

Jessica

Hi,
I found the partens for children website and thought i'd join the
group - first I'm here cause I need some general advice, but also, I
want to help fight for changes in the system - the articles I read
on the abuse by FIA is just amazingly sick. Anyway, here's my story:
Here's my story:
This saturday morning, at 9am, My 2 boys, 6 and 8, decided on thier
own to take off down the road on thier bikes to the pharmacy to buy
paper. They have never left the front of our house on thier bikes,
and that saturday they were playing in the back yard, as usual, and
decided on a spur to take off. I noticed they were gone within 10 -
15 minutes and immediatly starting searching the huge subdivision
with over 200 houses in it and lots of streets. At first I thought
they were on foot and had went to garage sales just a block away or
something and probably  heehawinga around or are lost ( I don't let
them go out of yard without a parent, but if they were going to take
off, that would be my first guess) when I came back from searching
to switch with my husband for him to go out and search for them, I
noticed the bikes were gone. Still, I really never thought of
looking down the busy street where the local stores are since it
seemed most likely that they were lost in a large subdivision, not
run off down the road they have never been down. I thought there was
no way they'd even try it - too scared for sure! (wrong!) All this
happened in the same hour - and during that hour, one of us stayed
home incase the boys came back, and one of us went out driving up
and down the streets, asking nieghbors, blowing a whistle and
searching for the kids. At one point I decide to see if, just by a
fat chance, they did cross the street and go down the road on the
bike trail - I took the car and went, but didn't see them or thier
bikes, so I came back home and my husband took off to continue
searching the immediate area. I got my mother on the phone to ask
her if it was too soon to bug the police - she said no, call now and
I hung up and started to call the police station.

In that same hour, the police got 2 calls during this time about my
boys riding on the road with their bikes and through a busy
intersection to get to Rite Aid. The police picked up the kids and
brought them home to me, pulling up in my drive just as I dialed the
police for help.  Yes, we waited an hour to pick up the phone to
call the police as we didn't want to go over board and thought they
would tell us 24 hours must go by anyway.
The officer brought up a few concerns - here they are and my answer:
1. The kids took off on thier own and I didn't call right away for
help- my answer was that I never expected them to cross onto the
busy street and thought they were just lost in the subdivision - and
I was calling right as they pulled up.
2. The kids didn't know traffic safety for bike riding - my answer
was OF course they don't, we don't take them down that busy street,
they are TOO young! They only ride right in front of our idle
street, with us watching - basically circles in the driveway.
3. the kids didn't know thier address and phone number: My answer -
we just bought our house in March and they know parts of it, they
are working on it, I can't MAKE them learn it faster than thier
little brains allow.
I've never had MIchigan's CPS/FIA  to my house before this time.
I was told by the officer that they had to call CPS due to them
getting more than 1 call on this, they got 2 calls about the boys in
the street- how worried should I be and, should I not let them in?
I'm worried that not letting them in will lead to them harrassing us
more,. And that hiring an attorney before they even get out here
will make them think we have something to be worried about - we
don't, other than them, the CPS. We are located in Okemos, MI,
Ingrahm county. I stay at home with the boys and my husband works.
We are young parents - 25 & 26, but live in the middle class part of
Okemos.  I only say this because I don't think we'd come off as easy
targets in the way of not being able to defend our selfs. I know
friends of mine in other states have been really harrassed and we
really think it's because they came off not wealthy enough to hire
an attorney - because as soon as the friend told the agency she
wouldn't talk to them without an attorney present, they left her
alone. Anyway, I don't have the money either for an attorney but you
know what I mean, they target anything that might be low income and
I think we come off as just average middle class young parents.
Please advise - part of me says to just be cordial and go outside to
talk to them and tell them the same story as what's on the report
and then part says, don't even answer the door if they come. Is not
answering the door an option?

Thanks!

Jessica

When I wrote my letters like this, I got responses back.  My responses said the same thing.  We will not get involved in any family court matter nor will we influence the judges decision.  What do you think of that?

*The kidnapping of Geneva Johnson*Must Read*

An order of removal was signed to remove my niece Geneva Johnson from the premises of her grandmother Annie Lackey on 2/2/05 base on a lie by an ACS case worker (Angelica Reyes). It was determined that an emergency removal was necessary because the case worker claimed that her grandmother exhibits bizarre behavior; and the absence of  furniture in her home with the exception of a dresser and a few chairs.

Supervising Judge Susan Knipps of family court (60 Lafayette st) signed the emergency removal order for Geneva Johnson with insufficient proof and no professional testimony, no legal representation or examination of the alleged victim who was 13 at the time. In fact on 2/3/05 the next day the Judge did not allow Geneva to speak in court, and her Law guardian (Natalie Albert) did not represent Geneva's best interest in court concerning the innocence of her grandmother. Instead they plotted to place her into a DRC facility and have her mentally evaluated and medicated. The Judge violated Family court act 1028 by directing Ms. Lackey's newly appointed attorney Ms. Baronoff not to have the 72 hour hearing that she is entitled to get Geneva back home.

In fact no family resource was contacted nor were any services offered as required by the NYS family court act to avoid removal of Geneva or placement into foster care. Ms. Lackey and Geneva are both dedicated Christians of Jehovah witnesses and neither has any history of mental illness, abuse or criminal activity. On 2/17/05 I went to family court with the hopes to get Geneva placed into my care until this tragedy passed over. I was informed by Angelica Reyes and Natalie Albert: "that the only way I can get Geneva placed into my custody  is to go thru an ICPC which can take upwards from anywhere to 3 to 6 months and until then she will have to remain in foster care."

I knew what they were telling me did not make any sense; we're living in America, and the law cannot possibly be that screwed up, I remembered reasoning to my self. I next challenged the allegations against my mother and asked for an explanation. I was informed that my mother was believed to be mentally ill and my niece was removed for imminent risk to life and health. I immediately asked for their proof to this ridiculous allegation and they replied it was confidential and that I'm not a party to this case (docket no: N-1301/05 NYS family court 60 Lafayette st.).

The Judge informed my mother that she and Geneva will have to see the court psychiatrist to determine her mental status if she wants her granddaughter back. Ms. Lackey never has been to a clinical psychiatrist, thus without professional diagnosis what is the basis for the Judge to account for an assessment? Ms. Lackey will not comply with the Judge's wishes because it's obvious that the courts doctors will find an unfavorable diagnosis to support the courts claims especially since the removable was done on very deliberate and questionable grounds. The burden of proof should fall on the accuser not the accused.

On 3/24/05 Elvis Liburd and Robert Griffith of the dept. of social services petitioned the Supreme Court ex parte motion part (index 400985/05) for an order to gain access into Ms. Lackey's home. They claimed that she was mentally impaired and exhibits psychotic, paranoid, schizophrenic behavior and that she has auditory hallucinations amongst other things. On 3/30/05 Mr. Griffith and 6 NYPD officers and a psychiatrist showed up at Ms. Lackey's residence in a failed attempt to force my mother into psychiatric care. I immediately went down to confront Mr. Griffith about the fictitious claim he bought against my mother and threatened the dept. of Social Services with a lawsuit. They later dropped their case against my mother (foajm.2645851). I later discovered that I can apply for legal guardianship for Geneva; a right that was deliberately withheld from me by ACS, family court and Geneva's law guardian.

On 6/13/05 I was denied the right to file for legal guardianship for my niece Geneva by family court clerk Thomas O'Connor who I immediately reported to the inspector general office with no satisfaction till this date in writing. During Geneva's stay in foster care, ACS has failed to enroll her into school or provide home schooling for her.  In fact Geneva has been neglected and abused in most of the foster homes they placed her in; all her cries for help fell upon deaf ears when those crimes were properly reported to ACS officials, her law guardian, and the mayor's office. I have even written to the Governor's office, John Mattingly (ACS), the Mayor, various politicians and all law enforcement agencies on her behalf and explained in full detail about the seriousness of the crimes and the abuse that she is suffering each day; nobody did anything.

Geneva grew tired of the educational neglect and the lack of help she was receiving from those who were supposed to be protecting her. It really bothered her that she has been to court more than 18 times and was not allowed to have a voice in court from the Judge even though she is now 14 years old. She was concerned as to why her fact finding hearing did not start as of yet and she grew weary of the psychological conditioning that they were subjecting on her each day. Geneva decided to leave ACS custody after a failed rape attempt at one of their facilities. She returned back to the safety of her family late in the summer of 2005 to escape the many abuses she endured during her tenure in ACS care.

On 12/19/05 ACS workers Sophia Nunez, Michael Navas and 6 officers from NYPD came to Ms. Lackey's residents and forcibly removed Geneva, painfully handcuffing her in the process while refusing to present or leave the court order they claim they had to justify their actions. Geneva knew she had to get away from this callous agency that did nothing but abuse her and try to force medication on her. She returned home to her Grandmother the next day and went to the hospital for her sore wrist and shortness of breath and filed a complaint against the police officers. A little over a week later on the 28^th ACS worker Charles Emanuel along with officers from NYPD Came to Ms. Lackeys home to remove Geneva. This time Ms. Lackey refuse to open the door until they show their court order, instead they chose to break down the door and swarm into her apartment. P.O. Pitts (shield # 2457) threatened to shoot Ms. Lackey on the spot if she moved and ordered her to shut up and get off the phone. Ms. Lackey refused because she was calling for help. The officers began to push her around and then P.O. Cano (shield # 8153) pulled the phone wire out of the wall then pushed Ms. Lackey who is 64 years old out into her hallway barefoot.

Geneva was in the bathroom taking a bath when this entire ruckus started. She was frozen and very scared and did not want to leave her grandmother. Geneva was ordered out the bathroom by the responding officers and she informed them that she was in the bathtub. Next, under Sgt. Caruso command, a Swat team from the 19^th precinct with laser guided weapons and full body armor bust down the door and pulled Geneva NAKED out of the tub in full view of the 20 or more police officer's and the ACS worker, all who were MEN. The officers then painfully handcuffed Geneva and wrapped some sheets around her out of the linen closets and marched her away barefoot in the dead of winter crying like she's a savage animal or some crazed killer. Next, they took her to Metropolitan Hospital where they injected her with some type of medication while she is still handcuffed with her hands behind her back. Then they put her into a straight jacket and placed her into a psych ward at a DRC facility on 17^th street & 2^nd ave. The cowardly, thuggish and terrorizing actions of the police officers were reported to the civilian complaint review board (case # 200515422), Internal Affairs, the Mayors office, the Governors office, Don Mattingly (ACS), Robert Morgenthau-District Attorney, FBI, Rep. Carolyn Maloney and a host of others. Nobody did anything but just let the case die down. 

Geneva continued to stand firm and returned home to her grandmother on the 30^th of December, 2 days after her tragic ordeal. She wrote letters to the Mayor pleading for help, and got nothing, no satisfaction, not even a reply.  On 5/7/06 they came back again and took her upstate and locked her up in some type of mental institution. Why is New York City government protecting ACS and Family Court for the obvious crimes they have committed? How many innocent children and parents are subjected to psychiatric evaluation; and are unnecessarily administered mood- stabilizing drugs as a condition to retain the rights of their children?

ACS and Family court is being run like a plantation. It's a profit-driven industry, a subtle continuation of institutionalized slavery which violates the 13^th amendment against slavery and involuntary servitude. Family court has been used to "legalize" this racketeering scheme to rubber stamp ACS state sponsored child & family abuse/neglect cases, and terrorize & subdue underprivileged mothers and their children; mostly Afro-American and Latino. What do they want with Geneva so badly? She did not commit a crime so why do they treat her so? Why are they not educating her? Is this some type of behavior modification experimentation? Why are these individuals being allowed to operate like a secret cult with total impunity within our government?

Constituents of New York please VOICE your OUTRAGE. Today they are targeting mother's that are considered underprivileged, tomorrow it may be your kids. Please stand up and make the guilty party accountable for their crimes. This is CHILD ABUSE of the worst kind. Please make copies of this document and help pass the word. Their strength is in their concealment. My niece is being used as a sacrificial lamb for their sadistic experiments; and she needs your help. Please make this case public!

Mayor Bloomberg    John Mattingly (ACS)      Governor Pataki       District Attorney              Family Court    

212-New –York               212-341-0900              518-474-8390          212-335-9082                 646-386-5206

Rep. Carolyn Maloney      Hon. Hillary Clinton      FBI NY           U.S Dept. of Justice      Ms. Lackey   

   212-860-0606                  212-688-6262            212-384-1000        202-353-1555         212-348-0474    

realdealoneal@...                Case Docket No: N-1301/05 NYS Family Court

Created by: S. Johnson 570-424-9432

Friends I like to inform you of the posting of my 2nd petition on the
web. I respectfully ask all of you to join me in petitioning the
House of Representatives to order an immediate inquiry on a National
level, to investigate every State, Children Services Administrations.

After careful consideration I thought that it would be selfish of me
to only fight for my niece Geneva. There are so many horror stories
out there, and many families don't have a voice to represent them; or
anyone standing in their corner just to say I care.

I used my family story in this petition to alert our representatives
throughout this great country of ours to show how ruthless this
administration can be along with the family court institution. I for
one am not please in the direction this country is heading; and if we
truly want to preserve democracy in this country we must stand as
one, and become one voice!

We have criminal element that's operating within our Government and
we must all ask congress together to take action and overhaul both
administrations. They are targeting innocent children and their
mother's and this type of practice is unethical and must cease to
exist. Regardless of what social status that we are in life, we are
all Gods' children.

We the people,
Ask the United States Congress to probe into the vast corruption
within our children services and Family Courts administration
throughout this great country of ours. Click on the link below to
sign this petition. Let's rid ourselves of this social cancer that's
destroying our way of life.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/492374273

I thank you all for signing this petition: The kidnapping of Geneva
Johnson.
This particular petition is aim at NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg. I'm
petitioning him to do his job to protect and serve. He refuses to
investigate the crimes that I've reported, he refuse to even reply to
the numerous letters that I had sent him through certified mail.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the people has spoken, please investigate
the crimes in your city and free my innocent 14 year old niece, whom
your city had abuse horrifically.

Please sign the petition below if you had not done so already-The
kidnapping of Geneva Johnson.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/802190866

Thank you, all in advance for your consideration and your help.
Please forward both of my petitions to everyone on your contact list.
Let's work together and become one voice. United we stand and divided
we fall.


                                  WRITE LETTERS OF OUTRAGE!

Re: NYS family court case docket no: N-1301/05

Robert M.
Morgenthau
Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg
District
Attorney
                         City Hall
County of New
York
       N.Y, N.Y 1OOO7
One Hogan place, N.Y, N.Y 10013

Commissioner John
Mattingly                                                   Governor
George E. Pataki
Administration for Children
Services                                                    State
Capital
150 Williams st. – 18th
floor                                                         Albany,
New York 12224
N.Y, N.Y 10038

Honorable Carolyn B.
Maloney                                              Honorable
Hillary Clinton
1651 Third
Avenue
        United State Senate
Suite
311
                       780 Third Avenue
N.Y, N.Y
10128
       Suite 2601, N.Y, N.Y 10017

Honorable Susan K.
Knipps
F.B.I New York
Supervising
Judge
    26 Federal plaza, 23rd floor
60 Lafayette st. 4th
floor
    N.Y, N.Y 10278
N.Y, N.Y 10013







Sincerely, Sheldon Johnson

Just in case anyone is wondering just how it went, I did a short post
on it with a few photo's. I will be doing a post on all of the future
Rally's as well. Here's the link :

http://outlaw-wolf.efx2.com/my/pages/1938/

Your comments are always welcome either here or by email at
TheOutlawWolf@...

Robert Magee aka The Outlaw Wolf

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From: "Joyce" <joyce_welsh@...>

If you get assigned to this court (Department 51)-DO NOT SIGN THE FORM
TO HAVE HER LISTEN TO YOUR CASE. Instead, ask for another judge, you
have that right. If you are a man be prepared to be raped. If you are
a women you will lose more than money, most likely your child due to
the court appointed psychologist Karen Hobbs, or Dr. Perryman for the
children.

Do not take this abuse, and if you do not have an attorney, be aware
Commissioner Berkow does not read your case, or what you present. She
is HIGHLY BIASED, and her objection is financial gain.

Hopes that this stops soon.....

Sincerely,
Joyce Welsh
Martinez, Ca 94553
925-229-2544

If you get assigned to this court (Department 51)-DO NOT SIGN THE FORM
TO HAVE HER LISTEN TO YOUR CASE. Instead, ask for another judge, you
have that right. If you are a man be prepared to be raped. If you are
a women you will lose more than money, most likely your child due to
the court appointed psychologist Karen Hobbs, or Dr. Perryman for the
children.

Do not take this abuse, and if you do not have an attorney, be aware
Commissioner Berkow does not read your case, or what you present. She
is HIGHLY BIASED, and her objection is financial gain.

Hopes that this stops soon.....

Sincerely,
Joyce Welsh
Martinez, Ca 94553
925-229-2544

Parents for Children Investigation Team has filed a complaint with
the
state of Michigan Elections office after uncovering illegal campaign
activity by Judicial Candidate Paul Addis who is running for Macomb
County
Circuit Judge.  The violation is specific in that Attorney Paul Addis
not
only failed to place a  disclaimer on his literature but failed to
describe
or give the address of who paid for it.  Since mostly newly elected
Judges
end up in the Family Court, Parents for Children finds  this
especially
disturbing.

His web site describes him as a Special prosecutor for Attorney-
general Mike
Cox who used the "letter of the law" to go after "dead broke"
Parents. As a
potential judge, he should be more responsible for obeying the law
himself.
His "deadbeat" policy is  especially inflammatory towards poor
Michigan
parents and not at all in the best interest of  Macomb Counties
Children.
Parents for Children leaves the decision whether to vote  for this
"deadbeat" attorney or not up to Macomb County voters.

We await an formal apology and disclosures from Mr. Addis.
The two best media Sources for you to contact are

The Macomb Daily
(586) 469-4510

Reporter -- Chad Halcom (586) 783-0216

The Detroit news
Edward L. Cardenas at (586) 468-0529 or ecardenas@....

Thanks
Dan Wilson
PFC

Let me be the squeaky wheel.  My case is very simple.  I was in a
relationship with an abusive man for 8 years.  He was an alcoholic
and ex police officer who still had plenty of contacts as well as
his father (homicide dectective-another town) and his uncle Chief of
police yet another nearby town.  He threatened to make sure I never
saw my children if I left him or went after Child support.  So I
stayed.  That is, until he left provable damage to one of the
children.  That was Oct 2002.  I recieved a CLETS.  I recieved
Primary Physical, Joint legal.  The boys 3, 6 at that time went into
therapy.  Both disclosed abuse repeatedly over the next 18 months,
that caused 18 reports by therapists to CFS.  CFS eventually called
me on my cell while at a therapy session and told me to be at their
office by 12:30 or lose my kids.  When I got there I was told to be
at family court to file for his visits to be stopped before 3:00pm
or the kids would go to foster care for my failure to protect them.
I went, family commisioner agreed to stop visits.  Ordered Dad into
several programs.  He did nothing. CFS investigates Dad.  He is
placed on the Central Child Abuse Index for abusing his own
children.  During this time my ex remarried and the court appointed
Attorney Ad Litem to the case.  Turns out the Ad Litem is the ex's
new wifes divorce attorney, so clearly they have a relationship.
She fails to disclose this.  Ad Litem asks the courts to use new
therapist in this case.  Within 5 weeks (and only one 45 minute
meeting with me) Oct 21 2005 new therapist is calling ME a parental
alienator, ex parte with no notice hearing held.  I send boys to
school unknowingly Oct 25th am served later that day and then don't
see my kids again.  I have 2 other children in my home, a 3rd that
is a foster child and 7 children who I am a licensed Day Care
Provider for, yet I am not allowed contact with my own youngest two
boys. The commissioner denied my request to remove Ad Litem for
failure to disclose a conflict and obvious Bias.  then she denied my
request for a written statement of decision.  That was last
Thursday.

Keri Ann Webster
I will fight until my last breath!