Slinter

Thanks for this post as our computer crashed Jan 1st and i did not
fancy trailing my way through past posts through the online group
page!! Your observations on Dr Russell make her a much more
interesting character but I do not subscribe that she was unduely
wooden neither though was she over active in her performance in 1999,
or the best bit about it! However, it would of been useful that
somewhere in the series if it was televise that this character had a
lot to live up as the actress had decided in her madeup characters
history that her mythical father was supposed to of discovered the
cure for cancer. (This is recorded in an interview she did on one of
the Fanderson making of S99 tapes!)

I do subscribe to the idea is that she offers a good performance as a
Dr. in an SF series when most comparisons of a simular SF role all
tend to look to StarTrek. As a Doc she is certainily not medically
incompertant as Dr Bev Crusher. Having a medical background i have
seen Dr's working and although as a Nursing Auxillary it's to your
advantage to stay clear of Doc's less you have to. Both Dr's Vincent
and Mathais are somewhat too simular to Russel in manner and
performance..that when Mathais left Vincent should of had something
revolutionary different in his personality, that this is s definate
failing in the series. However, when it comes though to compertance
having a a medical background the Alphan Dr's(guest acting extras) in
the latter part of the series give more the aire of knowing what they
are doing over Bains perforance/acting

What, is so interesting which no one has mentioned is that ITC:America
according to recorded interviews on the Fanderson tapes on 1999 pretty
much forced her into being on the show on the production crew when she
was not particularly wanted...that suddenly when season II happens ITC
America is then wanting her removed and replaced by someone esle. The
same is also true of Carter's character. ITC:America wanted Catherine
Shell...which apparently did not go down well with Bain that
although(Shell) had been already chosen Gerry was forced to interview
a host of actresses to give the impression the job was not already
gone just to keep B.Bain happy!

Kerry




--- In OnlineAlpha@yahoogroups.com, "James R. Rowings, J.D."
<notserp1344@...> wrote:
>
> "..not wooden at all..." and "...one of the most beautiful,
mesmerizing,
> incredibly talented and lovely actresses all over the world."
>
> I know everyone has their opinion.....I'm not very hard to please, and
> I'm not picky at all. But I find the above comments difficult
> to defend. She had the character I least liked, mostly due to her
> performance. Now, someone explained there was reason for
> her character to be that way in the episodes, and if so, then that's
why
> I really didn't like her character. She was MUCH better
> in Season 2 from that regard, as she was more HUMAN, but it had
> cemented enough with from Season 1 I still didn't like her
> much. I don't remember enough of Mission Impossible to know if it was
> her or the character, but I'll have to chalk it up to I would
> rather have had someone else play Helena.
>
> Jim
>
>
> oestrek wrote:
> >
> > Some might say that Jessica Simpson is beautiful and mesmerizing but
> > the simple fact is that she can't act. Beauty and ability are not the
> > same thing.
> > John Saxxon has a long career in movies but I haven't seen much in the
> > way of praise for his abilities either. There are many actors who for
> > one reason or the other have maintained a long career in the movies.
> > Does that qualify them as great actors? Some are many aren't. A person
> > might be a librarian with 40 years on the job, does that make them a
> > great librarian or just persistent?
> > I can appreciate the fact that she has performed on stage in some
> > prestigious theaters does that mean that I should like her? My
> > opinions are my own (well not quite, my wife shares them at least).
> > Just because Niel Diamond or Tom Jones or Roy Clark has had a long
> > musical career doesn't mean that I particularly want to see them. They
> > might have performed at Lincoln Center or Carnegie Hall but I still
> > don't want to see them. I didn't like BB in Mission Impossible or
> > Space:1999 or the Rescue from Gilligan's Island, they were essentially
> > the same character with about as much sex appeal as six day old toast.
> > The fact that she has had a long career pleases me. At least she
> > doesn't have to worry about paying the bills, good on her.
> >
> > --- In OnlineAlpha@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:OnlineAlpha%40yahoogroups.com>, "schorn.andrea" <chricaran@
> > ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > Barbara Bain is one of the most beautiful, mesmerizing, incredibly
> > > talented and lovely actresses all over the world.
> > > She has been spanning her TV and film career of 50 years.
> > > By the way she acts in several dramas in wellknown theaters.
> > > Andrea
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In OnlineAlpha@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:OnlineAlpha%40yahoogroups.com>, "oestrek" <oestrek@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Never much liked her much. My wife and I have often regarded
her as
> > > > the weakest character/actor in the show. For all her flaws, Maya
> > > is a
> > > > more interesting person. I don't necessarily like the alien angle
> > > with
> > > > her but she did have some emotional depth and dynamics that seems
> > > > lacking from Ms. Bain. Part of what makes an actor "good" (at
> > > least in
> > > > my tiny little mind) is their vocal ability. I do like an actor
> > > that
> > > > can use their voice effectively. This is one area Helena always
> > > failed
> > > > in. She always sounded like she just woke up. Maybe ms. Bain's
> > > chain
> > > > smoking ruined her voice maybe it was something else.
> > > > My favorite actor for the show, voicewise, was Barry Morse. He had
> > > a
> > > > gravitas that seemed missing from some of the others. He was the
> > > > strong "center" that season two seemed to lack. Overall I
liked the
> > > > rest of the cast but Ms. Bain really is at the bottom of the list
> > > for
> > > > me. Marina Sirtis from TNG also is one of those
characters/actors I
> > > > could live without. Not much of a fan of Frake's character either.
> > > > Don't get me started on Voyager.
> > > > -Karl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In OnlineAlpha@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:OnlineAlpha%40yahoogroups.com>, "valeriecorinne"
> > > > <valeriecorinne@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You can read all the emotions in her eyes.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: herbert bell
> > > > > To: onlinealpha@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:onlinealpha%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1:18 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [OnlineAlpha] Re: Season Two observations
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought Babs did a great job, she wasn't wooden at all . I
> > > don't
> > > > know if I'm the only one here that thinks it, but I really think
> > > she
> > > > has a face for comedy I always get a kick out of her eyes ,
the red
> > > > eye shadow she wears on space seems to draw even more attention to
> > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > To: OnlineAlpha@ : cmdrkoenig67@ : Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:42:25
> > > > +0000Subject: [OnlineAlpha] Re: Season Two observations
> > > > >
> > > > > I never saw Babs as being wooden in Space:1999 S1...Her
> > > > performance was usually subtle, yes...But hardly wooden. For one,
> > > Ms.
> > > > Bain was portraying a doctor...Level- headed, clinical and
> > > detatched,
> > > > not to mention emotionally closed off after losing her husband
> > > years
> > > > ago...That seems to be how she approached the role.She certainly
> > > had
> > > > moments of great emotion in Y1 as well...In Matter of Life and
> > > > Death/Another Time,Another Place/Guardian of Piri/The Full
> > > Circle/War
> > > > Games/Death' s other Dominion/Black Sun/The Last Sunset/etc..
.All of
> > > > those episodes allowed her to express emotions on varying levels
> > > > either with other Moonbase Staff or on her own (whether that be
> > > fear,
> > > > terror and loss in War Games, Piri Guardian-induced ecstasy and
> > > > apathy, joy and anguish and terror in MOLAD. Rage and jealousy in
> > > TFC,
> > > > love and sadness as her older self in ATAP and also compassion
with
> > > > Sandra in Black Sun)... Happy Holidays, everybody.Dana- -- In
> > > > OnlineAlpha@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:OnlineAlpha%40yahoogroups.com>, Floyd Resler <macmage@>
> > wrote:>> I
> > > agree
> > > > with that as well. I know people have commented about her > wooden
> > > > acting in Breakaway. But, as was mentioned, look at the >
> > > > circumstances. In this episode Dr. Russell was talking with a
new >
> > > > commander and the previous commander refused to report her
> > > findings. >
> > > > I'd be very wooden too if I felt I wasn't getting any support from
> > > the
> > > > > command staff!> > Take care,> Floyd> > On Dec 20, 2008, at 4:54
> > > PM,
> > > > valeriecorinne wrote:> > > Yes. I totally agree with that.> >
-----
> > > > Original Message -----> > From: slinter@> > To:
> > > > OnlineAlpha@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:OnlineAlpha%40yahoogroups.com>> > Sent: Friday, December 19,
> > 2008 2:19
> > > > AM> > Subject: Re: [OnlineAlpha] Season Two observations> >> >
> > > Barbara
> > > > Bain was just fine, actingwise, in Y1. Remember the situation:> >
> > > > she's lost her husband, been blown into space, found him again,
> > > then >
> > > > > lost> > him again forever, been taken over by some alien
> > > > intelligence, et > > al. If> > she seems "wooden' as some have
> > > > claimed, she had reason. She was, as I> > see it, pulling in on
> > > > herself to survive. Only after a long time, with> > John to
support
> > > > her, does she begin to "bloom" as it were. \BB did > > just> >
> > > fine!>
> > > > >> > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:38:02 -0000 "Greg Crawford"
> > > <gregplx@>> >
> > > > writes:> > Well, since you guys are talking about season 2 so
> > > much, I
> > > > thought I'd> > tell you my observations of it.> > First, the one
> > > thing
> > > > they got right was making Barbara Bain ACT!> > The first
season she
> > > > was like a cold turkey right out of 2001: a space> > odyssey!
> > > Finally
> > > > showing she could seem real as Dr. Russell was the> > major point
> > > of
> > > > the second season.> >> > Getting rid of Paul; when they had
> > > developed
> > > > a good chemistry> > with Sandra Benes in "Last Sunset" was a major
> > > > blunder, as was> > reducing Alan to a minor character and getting
> > > rid
> > > > of his russian girl> > was sacriligous! > >> > Another good
thing of
> > > > the second season was the Eagles.> >> > another 45 yearold fan of
> > > Star
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