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Re: Alienated by season 2 Freispace:1999

--- In OnlineAlpha@yahoogroups.com, "oestrek" <oestrek@...> wrote:

In any case, Y1 S99 has a cinematic epic scale/feel unmatched by
anything else.

> Much of that mysticism is an artifact of the 70's. Much of the written
> SF had some element of that in the 70's. We saw a lot of that
> particulary in graphic fiction, Heavy Metal comes to mind. Moorcock
> and Zelazny played with it. In a way that dates the show. Some of the
> of the concepts in season 1 date it as well. The talking to plants bit
> from Troubled Spirit was there because of the 70s stories in popular
> science about communicating with plants. One wonders if the scientists
> were communicating more with canabis than other varieties.
> The idea that aliens would dress in long flowing outfits with long
> hair like Zandor comes straight out of the seventies and the SF
> graphic fiction of the day. 1999 was less of an innovation than a
> interpretation of the attitudes and influences of the day. What makes
> it different is that it is a product of the early 70s... much like
> UFO. IMHO UFO seems to be showing more varicose veins and liver spots
> than 1999 but they both owe their palette of "colors" to the
> seventies. Post 911 has shows that are more edgy and tension filled as
> well as astoundingly dark. I am thinking of BSG the new one. Certainly
> BSG version 2.0 couldn't be made in 1977. It is a product of the time
> it was created. As part of a larger social consciousness.
> Some of what you love is the age in which 1999 was created. I think
> the more disco(y) aspects of the fashions and maybe attitudes of S2
> appeal to those people who might appreciate a studio 54 inspired
> world. Nothing particularly wrong with it other than it personally
> doesn't jive with my personal world view, but I won't condemn someone
> for liking it. If you want a real 1999 meets Studio 54 experience
> watch Devil's Planet. Not my cup of tea but some may like it.
> -Karl
>
> --- In OnlineAlpha@yahoogroups.com, "(NERV) Jerizimy Talent"
> <lainavi@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In OnlineAlpha@yahoogroups.com, "oestrek" <oestrek@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think for
> > > most it is a reminder of the excitement we felt as children watching
> > > this show. Great... we had a thrill at age 8-13 or whatever...
it was
> > > a thrill.
> >
> > Certainly there's an element of nostalgia involved, but foremost for
> > me it's the high quality, literary-style SF elements and brilliant
> > production (directing/cinematography/soundtrack,sound
> > design/sfx/production design) that make it as watchable today as over
> > 30 years ago.
> >
> > For me, it's still unmatched till this day. I haven't watched any
> > live-action SF for over 15 years or so, as there's just nothing out
> > there that isn't some tarted-up cop show/western/political or soap
> > opera in the future/space.
> >
> > None of that mysterious sense of wonder and mysticism and mood that
> > S99 Y1 uniquely created.
> >
> > > The fact that anyone wants to discuss this show show's some
> > > merit or dedication or insanity.
> > > Good on ya Jerizimy Talent.
> > > -Karl
> >
> > Thank you! Glad to be of help.
> >
>





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I understand about humor. being a nerd, I get a lot of degrading humor thrown my way, and it ain't funny. oestrek <oestrek@...> wrote: Some...
Kathryn OConnor
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... In any case, Y1 S99 has a cinematic epic scale/feel unmatched by anything else. ... it was...
(NERV) Jerizimy Talent
lainavi
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Jan 2, 2009
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... Yes, and I feel it generally has a positive tone which is what draws me back. I wouldn't say this was solely a product of the time because the world of the...
richard650304
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Jan 3, 2009
1:26 am

... Me as well. I didn't pick up on alot of the intellectual/philosophical stuff when I was 15, just LOVED it for the design/sfx/music etc. Later, as a 30...
(NERV) Jerizimy Talent
lainavi
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Jan 3, 2009
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Another interesting post but i am not sure Ridley Scott is to to blame for current attitudes in SF? More, likely the X-files and it's parinod view of...
Kerry (a bloke!) and ...
spacesuit_uk
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... True, what I meant was that IMO his visual style (which is excellent) has been adopted by everyone since. So it's not Ridley Scott's fault, more those who...
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Jan 18, 2009
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For what it's worth, maybe some have been through it before, but not all.......
James R. Rowings, J.D.
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... all.... ... Donning my moderator hat! Deep breath, everyone. Please remember that we always have new people to the group, and they may not have come...
Linda
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... Thank YOU Linda, but while we were disagreeing on a couple of things, I think we were keeping things on a pretty even keel. The irony is, I would probably...
Mike
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... Nobody is going "too far out of our way to tear it down" when they voice their opinion. If everyone worries about stepping on toes, where would free ...
(NERV) Jerizimy Talent
lainavi
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... Thank you Linda! I've been going round and round in circles trying to get this point across! And the irony of course is when this topic does come up, you...
(NERV) Jerizimy Talent
lainavi
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Dec 29, 2008
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You know, no one is trying to censor anyone. So far you have been very vocal about your dislike of season two, fine I don’t mind. I prefer season two to one...
Brigitte
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Dec 30, 2008
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... As I'm constantly reminded by those around me, this is a series that was first shown over 30 years ago yet it still warrants discussion (as well as the odd...
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Dec 30, 2008
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Another aspect of how bad Space:1999 got was maybe alluded to by you. Towards the second half of the season they split the cast up. So you might have an alan...
oestrek
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Dec 30, 2008
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I'm definitely in the Year 1 camp, but you know what? This was a creative transformation that took place over 30 years ago. Moaning about it now is a bit...
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Dec 29, 2008
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I just hope I'll soon have the extra cash scraped together to order at least Year 1 on DVDs... --Karen Kari's Lair: Home of the Virgo Folkie ...
Karen Olsen
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Imagine how great Earthbound COULD have been had Freiberger rewritten it... only joking ;-) ====================================== Or been mistaken for...
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Did the cannabis communicate back? On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 04:45:15 -0800 (PST) Kathryn OConnor <kitty9tales@...> writes: I understand about humor. being a...
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yeah. it said "Stop smoking me so much. and clean your room and stop adulterating me to make me stronger and I'm going to make you go to sleep now." ...
Kathryn OConnor
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