Oh sure.

Neal Caffrey escapes prison just a few months before he is expected to be released. Why did he escape? The FBI agent who followed him for years and put him behind bars wants to find out, so after he is captured he gets an offer from the FBI agent to work for him and put other counterfeit artists like Neal behind bars. Caffrey takes the offer because he is trying to (secretly) get in touch with his ex-girlfriend who seems to be either in trouble or trying to keep him out of her life. Is she in trouble or did she dump him just before he got out? With the aid of a close friend, Neal plans to find out what happened to his ex-girflriend while the FBI agent tries to find out what Neal did with a secret stash and also why did he breakout early knowing it would keep him away from his ex-girlfriend for another long jail sentence.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jason Lethert <4cade1@...> wrote:

 

i have never seen the show.  i have seen it mentioned here, and actually tried to find out about it, searched a bit to no avail.  can anyone give me like a one or two sentence (spoiler free) synopsis?

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Joseph Dowdy <joseph@...> wrote:

 

Tom's best friend dies. Neal's is alive.

(we'll have to wait and see on that one, too)

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

Nice!  I particulary liked this, "Tom's love is either in plain sight or out of sight. Neal's love is either on video or or on the phone."  So true.

 

I would also add, both appear to be deceived by a person close to them.  But that remains to be seen pending the next episode. :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Dowdy

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

The protagonist in White Collar is Neal Caffrey.
The protagnoist in Nowhere Man is Tom Veil.

Both protagonists are not in control of their lives.
Both lose their love interest to a power controlling their lives.
Both go to great lengths to get her back.
Both are survivors.
Both seem to be like MacGyver.
Both are into art.
Both deal with real and fake art.
Both are just trying to live their lives.
Both seem to be at the mercy of higher powers.
Both are trying to prove their worth to people they meet.

But that's I think where the similarities end.

Tom has no team and no resources. Neal has a team and resources.
Tom's controllers are largely unknown. Neal's controller is his boss.
Tom has no sidekick. Neal has no sidekick.
Tom's love is either in plain sight or out of sight.
Neal's love is either on video or or on the phone.
Tom makes his own clues, except the palmtop.
Neal is always finding clues.
Tom is a loner and doesn't really like crowds.
Neal is a social butterfly and loves crowds.
Tom doesn't care about bad guys.
Neal likes to nab bad guys.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

ha!  Does that mean you don't like it? :)

 

My funny answer (as a guy) would be because there seem to be a lot of hot chicks appearing on the show lately.  lol.

 

But seriously, I'd say its the authority figure complex - some one elusive up high, having some type of control over something you care about.  And just trying to get by in life, knowing there is something more important out there that you need to defeat in order to ultimately be reunited with that which you call happiness. 

 

Cool?  :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:59 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

can anyone tell me what it is about this show that makes it appeal to NwM fans?

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Tom Shirley <miatatom@...> wrote:

 

Threw us for a loop. He might not be as nice as we think he is. I'm sure there's much more to the story and can't wait to see it. It returns on 1/19.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Veronica Dowdy <veronicadowdy@...> wrote:

 

Yes that was completely unexpected, wasn't it?

---

From: Tom Shirley <miatatom@...>
To: NwM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

 

Thanks for the heads up on this show. We've just finished watching all the episodes televised thus far. Love DVRs. Can't wait to find out how the cliff hanger they left us with pans out.

Tom Shirley

www.sceniccitymiata s.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@optonline. net> wrote:

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani- Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

Darn it! I didn't realize Legend of the Seeker had come back for a 2nd season. Now I find out I've already missed 7 eps. I'll have to set the DVR and see what I can catch on reruns.

Right now BBC America is doing a Doctor Who marathon. The final ep is Saturday night. There's also a new show called Demons starting tomorrow that looks like it might be interesting.

Pam

--- In NwM@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Dowdy <joseph@...> wrote:
>
> I happy to like Legend of the Seeker

 

Yeah, L of the Seeker is cool. I also missed the 2nd season...will have to look it up as well. --- On Fri, 1/1/10, Pamela J. <larsonpj@...> wrote: From: Pamela J. <larsonpj@...> Subject: [NwM] Re: White Collar -- any Burn Notice? To: NwM@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 3:25 PM   Darn it! I didn't realize Legend of the Seeker had come back for a 2nd season. Now I find out I've already missed 7 eps. I'll have to set the DVR and see what I can catch on reruns. Right now BBC America is doing a Doctor Who marathon. The final ep is Saturday night. There's also a new show called Demons starting tomorrow that looks like it might be interesting. Pam --- In NwM@yahoogroups. com, Joseph Dowdy <joseph@...> wrote: > > I happy to like Legend of the Seeker

 

Tod/Joseph, isn't it like "mid-season cliffhanger" (if that word exists)?  My understanding is that season 1 still hasn't completed.

Tod, you can find episodes online here - http://www.usanetwork.com/series/whitecollar/video/fullep/ but there seems to only be three.  If you use torrents, you can alway try tvtorrents.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Dowdy

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:27 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar -- any Burn Notice?

Don't know if it's online or not, but the season cliffhanger really turns the first season on it's head.

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Tod E. Santee <santeet@...> wrote:

 

Hey All...

God to see it's still rollin' here!

Miguel... the reason you wrote about liking White Collar is pretty much the same reason I got interested in Burn Notice. Reminds me a little of the old "Stingray" but less cloak & dagger and a touch of humor. I've been wanting to catch White Collar. Are last season's eps still online?

Best!
--Tod

---- Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:
But seriously, I'd say its the authority figure complex - some one
elusive up high, having some type of control over something you care
about. And just trying to get by in life, knowing there is something
more important out there that you need to defeat in order to
ultimately be reunited with that which you call happiness.

Cool? :)

Don't know if it's online or not, but the season cliffhanger really turns the first season on it's head.

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Tod E. Santee <santeet@...> wrote:

 

Hey All...

God to see it's still rollin' here!

Miguel... the reason you wrote about liking White Collar is pretty much the same reason I got interested in Burn Notice. Reminds me a little of the old "Stingray" but less cloak & dagger and a touch of humor. I've been wanting to catch White Collar. Are last season's eps still online?

Best!
--Tod

---- Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:
But seriously, I'd say its the authority figure complex - some one
elusive up high, having some type of control over something you care
about. And just trying to get by in life, knowing there is something
more important out there that you need to defeat in order to
ultimately be reunited with that which you call happiness.

Cool? :)

 

Hey All...

God to see it's still rollin' here!

Miguel... the reason you wrote about liking White Collar is pretty much the same reason I got interested in Burn Notice. Reminds me a little of the old "Stingray" but less cloak & dagger and a touch of humor. I've been wanting to catch White Collar. Are last season's eps still online?

Best!
--Tod

---- Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:
But seriously, I'd say its the authority figure complex - some one
elusive up high, having some type of control over something you care
about. And just trying to get by in life, knowing there is something
more important out there that you need to defeat in order to
ultimately be reunited with that which you call happiness.

Cool? :)

 

i have never seen the show.  i have seen it mentioned here, and actually tried to find out about it, searched a bit to no avail.  can anyone give me like a one or two sentence (spoiler free) synopsis?

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Joseph Dowdy <joseph@...> wrote:

 

Tom's best friend dies. Neal's is alive.

(we'll have to wait and see on that one, too)

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

Nice!  I particulary liked this, "Tom's love is either in plain sight or out of sight. Neal's love is either on video or or on the phone."  So true.

 

I would also add, both appear to be deceived by a person close to them.  But that remains to be seen pending the next episode. :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Dowdy

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

The protagonist in White Collar is Neal Caffrey.
The protagnoist in Nowhere Man is Tom Veil.

Both protagonists are not in control of their lives.
Both lose their love interest to a power controlling their lives.
Both go to great lengths to get her back.
Both are survivors.
Both seem to be like MacGyver.
Both are into art.
Both deal with real and fake art.
Both are just trying to live their lives.
Both seem to be at the mercy of higher powers.
Both are trying to prove their worth to people they meet.

But that's I think where the similarities end.

Tom has no team and no resources. Neal has a team and resources.
Tom's controllers are largely unknown. Neal's controller is his boss.
Tom has no sidekick. Neal has no sidekick.
Tom's love is either in plain sight or out of sight.
Neal's love is either on video or or on the phone.
Tom makes his own clues, except the palmtop.
Neal is always finding clues.
Tom is a loner and doesn't really like crowds.
Neal is a social butterfly and loves crowds.
Tom doesn't care about bad guys.
Neal likes to nab bad guys.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

ha!  Does that mean you don't like it? :)

 

My funny answer (as a guy) would be because there seem to be a lot of hot chicks appearing on the show lately.  lol.

 

But seriously, I'd say its the authority figure complex - some one elusive up high, having some type of control over something you care about.  And just trying to get by in life, knowing there is something more important out there that you need to defeat in order to ultimately be reunited with that which you call happiness. 

 

Cool?  :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:59 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

can anyone tell me what it is about this show that makes it appeal to NwM fans?

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Tom Shirley <miatatom@...> wrote:

 

Threw us for a loop. He might not be as nice as we think he is. I'm sure there's much more to the story and can't wait to see it. It returns on 1/19.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Veronica Dowdy <veronicadowdy@...> wrote:

 

Yes that was completely unexpected, wasn't it?

---

From: Tom Shirley <miatatom@...>
To: NwM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

 

Thanks for the heads up on this show. We've just finished watching all the episodes televised thus far. Love DVRs. Can't wait to find out how the cliff hanger they left us with pans out.

Tom Shirley

www.sceniccitymiata s.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@optonline. net> wrote:

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani- Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

Tom's best friend dies. Neal's is alive.

(we'll have to wait and see on that one, too)

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

Nice!  I particulary liked this, "Tom's love is either in plain sight or out of sight. Neal's love is either on video or or on the phone."  So true.

 

I would also add, both appear to be deceived by a person close to them.  But that remains to be seen pending the next episode. :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Dowdy

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

The protagonist in White Collar is Neal Caffrey.
The protagnoist in Nowhere Man is Tom Veil.

Both protagonists are not in control of their lives.
Both lose their love interest to a power controlling their lives.
Both go to great lengths to get her back.
Both are survivors.
Both seem to be like MacGyver.
Both are into art.
Both deal with real and fake art.
Both are just trying to live their lives.
Both seem to be at the mercy of higher powers.
Both are trying to prove their worth to people they meet.

But that's I think where the similarities end.

Tom has no team and no resources. Neal has a team and resources.
Tom's controllers are largely unknown. Neal's controller is his boss.
Tom has no sidekick. Neal has no sidekick.
Tom's love is either in plain sight or out of sight.
Neal's love is either on video or or on the phone.
Tom makes his own clues, except the palmtop.
Neal is always finding clues.
Tom is a loner and doesn't really like crowds.
Neal is a social butterfly and loves crowds.
Tom doesn't care about bad guys.
Neal likes to nab bad guys.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

ha!  Does that mean you don't like it? :)

 

My funny answer (as a guy) would be because there seem to be a lot of hot chicks appearing on the show lately.  lol.

 

But seriously, I'd say its the authority figure complex - some one elusive up high, having some type of control over something you care about.  And just trying to get by in life, knowing there is something more important out there that you need to defeat in order to ultimately be reunited with that which you call happiness. 

 

Cool?  :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:59 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

can anyone tell me what it is about this show that makes it appeal to NwM fans?

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Tom Shirley <miatatom@...> wrote:

 

Threw us for a loop. He might not be as nice as we think he is. I'm sure there's much more to the story and can't wait to see it. It returns on 1/19.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Veronica Dowdy <veronicadowdy@...> wrote:

 

Yes that was completely unexpected, wasn't it?

---

From: Tom Shirley <miatatom@...>
To: NwM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

 

Thanks for the heads up on this show. We've just finished watching all the episodes televised thus far. Love DVRs. Can't wait to find out how the cliff hanger they left us with pans out.

Tom Shirley

www.sceniccitymiata s.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@optonline. net> wrote:

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani- Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

Nice!  I particulary liked this, "Tom's love is either in plain sight or out of sight. Neal's love is either on video or or on the phone."  So true.

 

I would also add, both appear to be deceived by a person close to them.  But that remains to be seen pending the next episode. :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Dowdy

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

The protagonist in White Collar is Neal Caffrey.
The protagnoist in Nowhere Man is Tom Veil.

Both protagonists are not in control of their lives.
Both lose their love interest to a power controlling their lives.
Both go to great lengths to get her back.
Both are survivors.
Both seem to be like MacGyver.
Both are into art.
Both deal with real and fake art.
Both are just trying to live their lives.
Both seem to be at the mercy of higher powers.
Both are trying to prove their worth to people they meet.

But that's I think where the similarities end.

Tom has no team and no resources. Neal has a team and resources.
Tom's controllers are largely unknown. Neal's controller is his boss.
Tom has no sidekick. Neal has no sidekick.
Tom's love is either in plain sight or out of sight.
Neal's love is either on video or or on the phone.
Tom makes his own clues, except the palmtop.
Neal is always finding clues.
Tom is a loner and doesn't really like crowds.
Neal is a social butterfly and loves crowds.
Tom doesn't care about bad guys.
Neal likes to nab bad guys.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

ha!  Does that mean you don't like it? :)

 

My funny answer (as a guy) would be because there seem to be a lot of hot chicks appearing on the show lately.  lol.

 

But seriously, I'd say its the authority figure complex - some one elusive up high, having some type of control over something you care about.  And just trying to get by in life, knowing there is something more important out there that you need to defeat in order to ultimately be reunited with that which you call happiness. 

 

Cool?  :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:59 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

can anyone tell me what it is about this show that makes it appeal to NwM fans?

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Tom Shirley <miatatom@...> wrote:

 

Threw us for a loop. He might not be as nice as we think he is. I'm sure there's much more to the story and can't wait to see it. It returns on 1/19.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Veronica Dowdy <veronicadowdy@...> wrote:

 

Yes that was completely unexpected, wasn't it?

---

From: Tom Shirley <miatatom@...>
To: NwM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

 

Thanks for the heads up on this show. We've just finished watching all the episodes televised thus far. Love DVRs. Can't wait to find out how the cliff hanger they left us with pans out.

Tom Shirley

www.sceniccitymiata s.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@optonline. net> wrote:

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani- Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

ha!  Does that mean you don't like it? :)

 

My funny answer (as a guy) would be because there seem to be a lot of hot chicks appearing on the show lately.  lol.

 

But seriously, I'd say its the authority figure complex - some one elusive up high, having some type of control over something you care about.  And just trying to get by in life, knowing there is something more important out there that you need to defeat in order to ultimately be reunited with that which you call happiness. 

 

Cool?  :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:59 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

can anyone tell me what it is about this show that makes it appeal to NwM fans?

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Tom Shirley <miatatom@...> wrote:

 

Threw us for a loop. He might not be as nice as we think he is. I'm sure there's much more to the story and can't wait to see it. It returns on 1/19.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Veronica Dowdy <veronicadowdy@...> wrote:

 

Yes that was completely unexpected, wasn't it?

---

From: Tom Shirley <miatatom@...>
To: NwM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

 

Thanks for the heads up on this show. We've just finished watching all the episodes televised thus far. Love DVRs. Can't wait to find out how the cliff hanger they left us with pans out.

Tom Shirley

www.sceniccitymiata s.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@optonline. net> wrote:

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani- Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

can anyone tell me what it is about this show that makes it appeal to NwM fans?

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Tom Shirley <miatatom@...> wrote:

 

Threw us for a loop. He might not be as nice as we think he is. I'm sure there's much more to the story and can't wait to see it. It returns on 1/19.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Veronica Dowdy <veronicadowdy@...> wrote:

 

Yes that was completely unexpected, wasn't it?

---

From: Tom Shirley <miatatom@...>
To: NwM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

 

Thanks for the heads up on this show. We've just finished watching all the episodes televised thus far. Love DVRs. Can't wait to find out how the cliff hanger they left us with pans out.

Tom Shirley

www.sceniccitymiata s.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@optonline. net> wrote:

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani- Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

can anyone tell me what it is about this show that makes it appeal to NwM fans?

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Tom Shirley <miatatom@...> wrote:

 

Threw us for a loop. He might not be as nice as we think he is. I'm sure there's much more to the story and can't wait to see it. It returns on 1/19.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Veronica Dowdy <veronicadowdy@...> wrote:

 

Yes that was completely unexpected, wasn't it?

---

From: Tom Shirley <miatatom@...>
To: NwM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

 

Thanks for the heads up on this show. We've just finished watching all the episodes televised thus far. Love DVRs. Can't wait to find out how the cliff hanger they left us with pans out.

Tom Shirley

www.sceniccitymiata s.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@optonline. net> wrote:

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani- Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

Threw us for a loop. He might not be as nice as we think he is. I'm sure there's much more to the story and can't wait to see it. It returns on 1/19.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Veronica Dowdy <veronicadowdy@...> wrote:

 

Yes that was completely unexpected, wasn't it?

---

From: Tom Shirley <miatatom@...>
To: NwM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

 

Thanks for the heads up on this show. We've just finished watching all the episodes televised thus far. Love DVRs. Can't wait to find out how the cliff hanger they left us with pans out.

Tom Shirley

www.sceniccitymiata s.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@optonline. net> wrote:

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani- Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

Yes that was completely unexpected, wasn't it?

---

From: Tom Shirley <miatatom@...>
To: NwM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NwM] White Collar

 

Thanks for the heads up on this show. We've just finished watching all the episodes televised thus far. Love DVRs. Can't wait to find out how the cliff hanger they left us with pans out.

Tom Shirley

www.sceniccitymiata s.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@optonline. net> wrote:

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani- Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

Hey Joseph/Veronica, and all others.  I just watched the first episode of White Collar.  Nicely done, and funny here and there.  The main character was that dude from Traveler.  And his character here reminded me of a cross between Adrian Monk and Michael Schofield from Prison Break.  

 

I also recognized Tiffani-Amber Thiessen.  So different from here days in Saved by the Bell and 90210.

Best Regards,
Miguel

 

Ah, my mistake. Apologias.

Joseph

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

hey joseph, no i'm not in Florida.  I'm from New York and surrounding areas, born in Manhattan and raised in the Bronx.  I'm currently doing consultanting work in Jersey these days.  When it gets cold up here I kinda wish I was in Florida. :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Dowdy

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:27 AM

Subject: Re: [NwM] Alice

Waaaiiiitttt a second. Miguel, don't you live in Florida? You should be able to find grits at any Awful House (sorry, Waffle House) or just about any place that serves a Southern breakfast.

If you want gumbo, go to N'Awlins. That's where it's from. You can't find better.

We have a place here in town that has jambalaya, gumbo and all kinds of cajun stuff for breakfast and lunch. However, no muffaletta sandwiches (olive bread and a thick stack of Italian sliced sausage, ham and cheese). They do have grits and I had some this morning. My baby girl REALLY loves grits.

You can get them in the store by the way. Instant grits are with the instant oatmeal.

Grits and POLENTA are almost the same. Big difference is that grits are bleached polenta. Both taste the same but polenta is probably better for u.

Joseph

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

I have been told that grits is similar to Farina.  Thats the only way I know what it is.  But I'm not sure how wide-spread Farina is.  I wouldn't want to say that it is latin american because you never know what is common for who.

 

Speaking of not knowing what grits were for years, the funny thing is that I have heard of the word "Gumbo" all my life and never knew what it was.  A friend tried it this year and told me.  Its a food from Louisiana.  Based on the description of it, it seems to be like the Dominican Sancocho but better.  I am on a quest to find a place that has Gumbo.  I found places on the internet that are in Manhattan but since I don't work in Manhattan anymore I haven't had a chance yet. :(

 

I wonder if southeners have any cravings for food from the North. LOL!!!

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:36 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] Alice

ah, youngsters!

i knew that phrase literally for years without knowing what grits were... probably until i saw My Cousin Vinny...

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

cool, i hadn't heard of that phrase,  "kiss my grits" but I can gather what it means.  Sounds kind of funny. :)  From what know grits is a food from the south.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:19 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] Alice

well, 'good'; not sure if i can say that.  i mean it was a late 70s sitcom, but more than whether it was good, i can say it was a slightly iconic show.  for starters, "Alice" was a single mom working as a waitress to raise her son (the son was the brother of Jo from Facts of Life in real life).  so it was kind of a sign of the times.  also - little known factoid, the sitcom was quite ironically a kind of spinoff from the Martin Scorsese movie "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore"!

but the show is best known for two of the best supporting characters in late 70s sitcoms - the cougar (before there was such a thing) Flo, a sassy Mae West type with signature line "kiss my grits" which is a pretty iconic phrase, though it's probably lessening in popular familiarity since the millenium as we get farther from the 70s.  but not to be overlooked is Vic Tayback's great role as the jerkish boss, Mel the Cook. 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

dude, when I just saw your email I was like - Huh? :-S

 

But then I did a search for the phase, "Kiss my grits" and see it must be related to that show - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=0Uh&q=Kiss+my+grits&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

 

I don't recall this show though.  If it ran for 9 years it must've been famous but I just don't recognize it. :(  Was it any good?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:19 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] Alice

ha ha ha!!  Kiss my grits!!!

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

Can you send a link?  I search for it and find a TV show that ran from 1976 to 1985

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Shirley

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:35 PM

Subject: [NwM] Alice

Did anyone see Alice? I thought it was pretty good.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com

 

hey joseph, no i'm not in Florida.  I'm from New York and surrounding areas, born in Manhattan and raised in the Bronx.  I'm currently doing consultanting work in Jersey these days.  When it gets cold up here I kinda wish I was in Florida. :)

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Dowdy

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:27 AM

Subject: Re: [NwM] Alice

Waaaiiiitttt a second. Miguel, don't you live in Florida? You should be able to find grits at any Awful House (sorry, Waffle House) or just about any place that serves a Southern breakfast.

If you want gumbo, go to N'Awlins. That's where it's from. You can't find better.

We have a place here in town that has jambalaya, gumbo and all kinds of cajun stuff for breakfast and lunch. However, no muffaletta sandwiches (olive bread and a thick stack of Italian sliced sausage, ham and cheese). They do have grits and I had some this morning. My baby girl REALLY loves grits.

You can get them in the store by the way. Instant grits are with the instant oatmeal.

Grits and POLENTA are almost the same. Big difference is that grits are bleached polenta. Both taste the same but polenta is probably better for u.

Joseph

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

I have been told that grits is similar to Farina.  Thats the only way I know what it is.  But I'm not sure how wide-spread Farina is.  I wouldn't want to say that it is latin american because you never know what is common for who.

 

Speaking of not knowing what grits were for years, the funny thing is that I have heard of the word "Gumbo" all my life and never knew what it was.  A friend tried it this year and told me.  Its a food from Louisiana.  Based on the description of it, it seems to be like the Dominican Sancocho but better.  I am on a quest to find a place that has Gumbo.  I found places on the internet that are in Manhattan but since I don't work in Manhattan anymore I haven't had a chance yet. :(

 

I wonder if southeners have any cravings for food from the North. LOL!!!

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:36 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] Alice

ah, youngsters!

i knew that phrase literally for years without knowing what grits were... probably until i saw My Cousin Vinny...

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

cool, i hadn't heard of that phrase,  "kiss my grits" but I can gather what it means.  Sounds kind of funny. :)  From what know grits is a food from the south.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:19 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] Alice

well, 'good'; not sure if i can say that.  i mean it was a late 70s sitcom, but more than whether it was good, i can say it was a slightly iconic show.  for starters, "Alice" was a single mom working as a waitress to raise her son (the son was the brother of Jo from Facts of Life in real life).  so it was kind of a sign of the times.  also - little known factoid, the sitcom was quite ironically a kind of spinoff from the Martin Scorsese movie "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore"!

but the show is best known for two of the best supporting characters in late 70s sitcoms - the cougar (before there was such a thing) Flo, a sassy Mae West type with signature line "kiss my grits" which is a pretty iconic phrase, though it's probably lessening in popular familiarity since the millenium as we get farther from the 70s.  but not to be overlooked is Vic Tayback's great role as the jerkish boss, Mel the Cook. 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

dude, when I just saw your email I was like - Huh? :-S

 

But then I did a search for the phase, "Kiss my grits" and see it must be related to that show - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=0Uh&q=Kiss+my+grits&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

 

I don't recall this show though.  If it ran for 9 years it must've been famous but I just don't recognize it. :(  Was it any good?

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Lethert

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:19 PM

Subject: Re: [NwM] Alice

ha ha ha!!  Kiss my grits!!!

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Miguel Neder <neowhere@...> wrote:

 

Can you send a link?  I search for it and find a TV show that ran from 1976 to 1985

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Shirley

To: NwM@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:35 PM

Subject: [NwM] Alice

Did anyone see Alice? I thought it was pretty good.

Tom Shirley
www.sceniccitymiatas.com