Hello,
Thanks to all of you for joining my Lori Valenti group. As you know Big Brother
is returning July 9. You are all invited to join my Big Brother 11 group here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Big_Brother_11/join
Thanks!
I worked with her for years. Its funny she has a website.
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From: "snakeplisken33" <snakeplisken33@...>
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:24:07
To:Lori_Valenti@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Lori_Valenti] Re: Ha
---cant believe what? In Lori_Valenti@: <mailto:Lori_Valenti%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "mikeleroy1977"
<mike.leroy@...> wrote:
>
> I can't believe this!
>
Hello,
Thanks to all of you for joining our Lori group! Big Brother 6 is
starting next month. All members of our group are invited to join the
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I'm an attorney.....and she would have a tough time with Breach of Contract.....it was verbal.....and yes, as people like to say, "verbal contracts are binding" but the verbal contract may have violated the statute of frauds and besides she would have had an impossible time proving the terms of the contract since it WASN'T in writing......
>From: "Wes Jones" <cmaafam@...> >Reply-To: Lori_Valenti@yahoogroups.com >To: <Lori_Valenti@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [Lori_Valenti] Digest Number 23 >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:05:28 -0800 > > >I'm not a Holly fan. But I'd say under the circumstances I would have done >the same and possibly have even filed a lawsuit over the incident for breach >of contract and a few other things. > >Wes >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Lori_Valenti@yahoogroups.com> >To: <Lori_Valenti@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:35 AM >Subject: [Lori_Valenti] Digest Number 23 > > > > > > > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. Holly Describes Her Adventure in Vegas with Diane and Lori > > From: "postbb5" <skystuff@...> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:21:29 -0000 > > From: "postbb5" <skystuff@...> > > Subject: Holly Describes Her Adventure in Vegas with Diane and Lori > > > > > > > > HOLLY'S JOURNAL ENTRY IN ANGELSWEETSWEET.COM: > > Our "Crazy" Vegas Adventure....... > > > > OK I left off in the guest book that Jase and I drove to the location > > where the van was picking up all the reality people to take us all to > > Vegas.. Then we found out, that the fashion designer (who's show it > > was), arranged a different car for Jase and I to travel in, because > > apparently "Diane" was in the van with Lori and all the others, and > > they didn't want to have a cat fight between the two of us! So the > > fashion designer lady put us in a car with her assistant! Who seemed > > to be nice at the time of departure but things quickly took a turn > > for the strange! > > > > She (we'll call her "CRAZY") told Jase and I, while she was driving > > that she was "bipolar"! Jase and I not ever having been around a > > bipolar person, thought nothing of it! At first she was OK, then she > > proceeded to say "F%$#@ SWEETIE" like every other word! Then it just > > got stranger from that....She started to tell us that she was on > > heavy medication, and really shouldn't be driving, and that her car > > was a rental because she crashed her car the week before!!! Then she > > pulled out a joint and started smoking it while she was driving and > > kept putting in Jase's face to take a hit (when we don't smoke > > weed!!!) and this is all while she's driving! > > > > > > Then we ran out of gas, so we stopped at a gas station. Jase said "I > > think I should drive now", I of coarse agreed! We get in the car and > > she comes out of the gas station saying her card is maxed out because > > she spent to much money on "Jimi Chew shoes" and wants us to pay for > > all the gas and her 6 packs of cig's and food and everything, " so we > > do", I mean what can we do right!. So I hop in the front seat, Jase > > is driving.. and "Crazy" is in the back smoking her weed, and she > > said, "If we didn't like it, then F U SWEETIE" A quote from her > > actually!....so then she starts to tell us how she was arrested for a > > DUI and they took her to jail because she had Coke in her purse! She > > then starts freaking out, crying, saying that Americans are > > prejudiced and how dare they arrest her for that, and treat her like > > that, because in Singapore ( where she was from) they would never > > treat her like that, because she wears designer clothes and shoes! I > > am so serious this was the mentality of this chick!!!! She proceeds > > to cry and cry and throw an adult tantrum in the back seat of her car > > as I try to calm her down so Jase can drive us! This goes on allllll > > the way to Vegas, and Jase and I think this is some sorta joke on us! > > > > > > We get to Vegas with "crazy" and she starts yelling at all the > > employee's that help us, or come in contact with us saying that "all > > Americans are prejudiced and in Singapore people treat u better" > > totally making a big scene! Then she starts to pan-handle money to > > try to pay for her medicine, and threatens to faint, if people don't > > give her money! > > > > Meanwhile Jase and I's hotel room is nooooo where to be found, and > > the Lori, and Diane bus, with the "fashion Lady" on it with the hook > > up has not arrived! So we waited with "CRAZY" acting crazy! When the > > reality bus finally gets to the hotel, we find out that apparently > > the Fashion lady just hired this assistant that supposedly drove us, > > (When Jase did all the driving) and had know idea she was "Crazy" and > > just apologized, but in no way refunded the money we spent on her > > which was very unprofessional! We finally got in our room and away > > from "CRAZY" for some Holly Jase alone time! Later that evening we > > went to dinner and for the first time Diane and I talked and it > > wasn't so bad, she was nice, I was nice we all were OK! > > > > > > Then next day we had a rehearsal at 9am where we walked down the run > > way and practiced! Now when Trishelle set this up, she sent in a E- > > mail stating, that we would be put up in a hotel for three days, with > > food, spa passes and $100 dollars (which in the modeling world is > > nothing!) a day plus clothes....well that was far from the case! > > Lori, Diane and I slowly realized that we where being jiped! The > > Fashion designer never intended to pay us, or give us clothes, it was > > just a ploy to get us down there thinking that if we were already in > > Vegas we'd just have to do the show, and she wouldn't have to pay us! > > Not only did they not feed us, Jase and I had to pay to get to Vegas > > with "CRAZY" as our driver WHO DIDN'T DRIVE! and buy food and pay to > > go to the spa/gym...that was all suppose to be a part of the deal > > with us being in her show....and mind you, we were not just wearing > > normal clothes we were practically butt naked in lingerie! > > > > > > Jase and I proceeded to have fun hanging with fans and gambling, and > > he won me two giant stuffed animals (on his first try at darts) a > > bear and a gorilla that looked kinda like him and me ( I was the pink > > bear of coarse)! We had alot of fun together, but when it came time > > to do the fashion show, we felt taken advantage of, and Trishelle had > > this "I can't do anything about this!" attitude! She said that " She > > doesn't care about being half naked on stage, because she did > > playboy!" For Diane, Lori and I, that is not that easy, especially > > since we were promised to be compensated, and were not going to get > > anything for showing the kitty booties! ( We didn't win BB5 so we are > > still angel sweet sweet poor asses!) So WHAT DID WE DO.. we did what > > all Big Brother people know how to do, we formed an alliance! Believe > > me I never thought Jase and I would be forming an alliance with those > > two, but it happened! 4 hours before the show Lori, Diane Jase and I > > rented a car, and snuck out of Vegas, leaving all those crazies > > behind with a fashion show that only consisted of basically Trishelle > > and some chick from "Amish and the city" ! > > > > > > So with 5 hours to home, Lori, Diane, and I talked Big Brother > > madness!!!!! and just about drove Jase to suicide! But there's an > > understanding between Diane and I, and a Okayness with each other > > that came out of it, with a realization of letting go the past! Which > > was needed between us girls for sure! Even though we all didn't get > > along so much in the house, the BB girls and Jase were there for each > > other in the end which I found to be pretty dam cool, I guess there > > is this weird bond living with those people in that house huh! > > > > .....The End. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Find out about your favorite celebrities: > > > > http://www.celebrityspider.com > > > > and reality tv shows: > > > > http://www.realitytvlinks.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! 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I'm not a Holly fan. But I'd say under the circumstances I would have done
the same and possibly have even filed a lawsuit over the incident for breach
of contract and a few other things.
Wes
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lori_Valenti@yahoogroups.com>
To: <Lori_Valenti@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:35 AM
Subject: [Lori_Valenti] Digest Number 23
>
>
> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Holly Describes Her Adventure in Vegas with Diane and Lori
> From: "postbb5" <skystuff@...>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:21:29 -0000
> From: "postbb5" <skystuff@...>
> Subject: Holly Describes Her Adventure in Vegas with Diane and Lori
>
>
>
> HOLLY'S JOURNAL ENTRY IN ANGELSWEETSWEET.COM:
> Our "Crazy" Vegas Adventure.......
>
> OK I left off in the guest book that Jase and I drove to the location
> where the van was picking up all the reality people to take us all to
> Vegas.. Then we found out, that the fashion designer (who's show it
> was), arranged a different car for Jase and I to travel in, because
> apparently "Diane" was in the van with Lori and all the others, and
> they didn't want to have a cat fight between the two of us! So the
> fashion designer lady put us in a car with her assistant! Who seemed
> to be nice at the time of departure but things quickly took a turn
> for the strange!
>
> She (we'll call her "CRAZY") told Jase and I, while she was driving
> that she was "bipolar"! Jase and I not ever having been around a
> bipolar person, thought nothing of it! At first she was OK, then she
> proceeded to say "F%$#@ SWEETIE" like every other word! Then it just
> got stranger from that....She started to tell us that she was on
> heavy medication, and really shouldn't be driving, and that her car
> was a rental because she crashed her car the week before!!! Then she
> pulled out a joint and started smoking it while she was driving and
> kept putting in Jase's face to take a hit (when we don't smoke
> weed!!!) and this is all while she's driving!
>
>
> Then we ran out of gas, so we stopped at a gas station. Jase said "I
> think I should drive now", I of coarse agreed! We get in the car and
> she comes out of the gas station saying her card is maxed out because
> she spent to much money on "Jimi Chew shoes" and wants us to pay for
> all the gas and her 6 packs of cig's and food and everything, " so we
> do", I mean what can we do right!. So I hop in the front seat, Jase
> is driving.. and "Crazy" is in the back smoking her weed, and she
> said, "If we didn't like it, then F U SWEETIE" A quote from her
> actually!....so then she starts to tell us how she was arrested for a
> DUI and they took her to jail because she had Coke in her purse! She
> then starts freaking out, crying, saying that Americans are
> prejudiced and how dare they arrest her for that, and treat her like
> that, because in Singapore ( where she was from) they would never
> treat her like that, because she wears designer clothes and shoes! I
> am so serious this was the mentality of this chick!!!! She proceeds
> to cry and cry and throw an adult tantrum in the back seat of her car
> as I try to calm her down so Jase can drive us! This goes on allllll
> the way to Vegas, and Jase and I think this is some sorta joke on us!
>
>
> We get to Vegas with "crazy" and she starts yelling at all the
> employee's that help us, or come in contact with us saying that "all
> Americans are prejudiced and in Singapore people treat u better"
> totally making a big scene! Then she starts to pan-handle money to
> try to pay for her medicine, and threatens to faint, if people don't
> give her money!
>
> Meanwhile Jase and I's hotel room is nooooo where to be found, and
> the Lori, and Diane bus, with the "fashion Lady" on it with the hook
> up has not arrived! So we waited with "CRAZY" acting crazy! When the
> reality bus finally gets to the hotel, we find out that apparently
> the Fashion lady just hired this assistant that supposedly drove us,
> (When Jase did all the driving) and had know idea she was "Crazy" and
> just apologized, but in no way refunded the money we spent on her
> which was very unprofessional! We finally got in our room and away
> from "CRAZY" for some Holly Jase alone time! Later that evening we
> went to dinner and for the first time Diane and I talked and it
> wasn't so bad, she was nice, I was nice we all were OK!
>
>
> Then next day we had a rehearsal at 9am where we walked down the run
> way and practiced! Now when Trishelle set this up, she sent in a E-
> mail stating, that we would be put up in a hotel for three days, with
> food, spa passes and $100 dollars (which in the modeling world is
> nothing!) a day plus clothes....well that was far from the case!
> Lori, Diane and I slowly realized that we where being jiped! The
> Fashion designer never intended to pay us, or give us clothes, it was
> just a ploy to get us down there thinking that if we were already in
> Vegas we'd just have to do the show, and she wouldn't have to pay us!
> Not only did they not feed us, Jase and I had to pay to get to Vegas
> with "CRAZY" as our driver WHO DIDN'T DRIVE! and buy food and pay to
> go to the spa/gym...that was all suppose to be a part of the deal
> with us being in her show....and mind you, we were not just wearing
> normal clothes we were practically butt naked in lingerie!
>
>
> Jase and I proceeded to have fun hanging with fans and gambling, and
> he won me two giant stuffed animals (on his first try at darts) a
> bear and a gorilla that looked kinda like him and me ( I was the pink
> bear of coarse)! We had alot of fun together, but when it came time
> to do the fashion show, we felt taken advantage of, and Trishelle had
> this "I can't do anything about this!" attitude! She said that " She
> doesn't care about being half naked on stage, because she did
> playboy!" For Diane, Lori and I, that is not that easy, especially
> since we were promised to be compensated, and were not going to get
> anything for showing the kitty booties! ( We didn't win BB5 so we are
> still angel sweet sweet poor asses!) So WHAT DID WE DO.. we did what
> all Big Brother people know how to do, we formed an alliance! Believe
> me I never thought Jase and I would be forming an alliance with those
> two, but it happened! 4 hours before the show Lori, Diane Jase and I
> rented a car, and snuck out of Vegas, leaving all those crazies
> behind with a fashion show that only consisted of basically Trishelle
> and some chick from "Amish and the city" !
>
>
> So with 5 hours to home, Lori, Diane, and I talked Big Brother
> madness!!!!! and just about drove Jase to suicide! But there's an
> understanding between Diane and I, and a Okayness with each other
> that came out of it, with a realization of letting go the past! Which
> was needed between us girls for sure! Even though we all didn't get
> along so much in the house, the BB girls and Jase were there for each
> other in the end which I found to be pretty dam cool, I guess there
> is this weird bond living with those people in that house huh!
>
> .....The End.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
> Find out about your favorite celebrities:
>
> http://www.celebrityspider.com
>
> and reality tv shows:
>
> http://www.realitytvlinks.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
HOLLY'S JOURNAL ENTRY IN ANGELSWEETSWEET.COM:
Our "Crazy" Vegas Adventure.......
OK I left off in the guest book that Jase and I drove to the location
where the van was picking up all the reality people to take us all to
Vegas.. Then we found out, that the fashion designer (who's show it
was), arranged a different car for Jase and I to travel in, because
apparently "Diane" was in the van with Lori and all the others, and
they didn't want to have a cat fight between the two of us! So the
fashion designer lady put us in a car with her assistant! Who seemed
to be nice at the time of departure but things quickly took a turn
for the strange!
She (we'll call her "CRAZY") told Jase and I, while she was driving
that she was "bipolar"! Jase and I not ever having been around a
bipolar person, thought nothing of it! At first she was OK, then she
proceeded to say "F%$#@ SWEETIE" like every other word! Then it just
got stranger from that....She started to tell us that she was on
heavy medication, and really shouldn't be driving, and that her car
was a rental because she crashed her car the week before!!! Then she
pulled out a joint and started smoking it while she was driving and
kept putting in Jase's face to take a hit (when we don't smoke
weed!!!) and this is all while she's driving!
Then we ran out of gas, so we stopped at a gas station. Jase said "I
think I should drive now", I of coarse agreed! We get in the car and
she comes out of the gas station saying her card is maxed out because
she spent to much money on "Jimi Chew shoes" and wants us to pay for
all the gas and her 6 packs of cig's and food and everything, " so we
do", I mean what can we do right!. So I hop in the front seat, Jase
is driving.. and "Crazy" is in the back smoking her weed, and she
said, "If we didn't like it, then F U SWEETIE" A quote from her
actually!....so then she starts to tell us how she was arrested for a
DUI and they took her to jail because she had Coke in her purse! She
then starts freaking out, crying, saying that Americans are
prejudiced and how dare they arrest her for that, and treat her like
that, because in Singapore ( where she was from) they would never
treat her like that, because she wears designer clothes and shoes! I
am so serious this was the mentality of this chick!!!! She proceeds
to cry and cry and throw an adult tantrum in the back seat of her car
as I try to calm her down so Jase can drive us! This goes on allllll
the way to Vegas, and Jase and I think this is some sorta joke on us!
We get to Vegas with "crazy" and she starts yelling at all the
employee's that help us, or come in contact with us saying that "all
Americans are prejudiced and in Singapore people treat u better"
totally making a big scene! Then she starts to pan-handle money to
try to pay for her medicine, and threatens to faint, if people don't
give her money!
Meanwhile Jase and I's hotel room is nooooo where to be found, and
the Lori, and Diane bus, with the "fashion Lady" on it with the hook
up has not arrived! So we waited with "CRAZY" acting crazy! When the
reality bus finally gets to the hotel, we find out that apparently
the Fashion lady just hired this assistant that supposedly drove us,
(When Jase did all the driving) and had know idea she was "Crazy" and
just apologized, but in no way refunded the money we spent on her
which was very unprofessional! We finally got in our room and away
from "CRAZY" for some Holly Jase alone time! Later that evening we
went to dinner and for the first time Diane and I talked and it
wasn't so bad, she was nice, I was nice we all were OK!
Then next day we had a rehearsal at 9am where we walked down the run
way and practiced! Now when Trishelle set this up, she sent in a E-
mail stating, that we would be put up in a hotel for three days, with
food, spa passes and $100 dollars (which in the modeling world is
nothing!) a day plus clothes....well that was far from the case!
Lori, Diane and I slowly realized that we where being jiped! The
Fashion designer never intended to pay us, or give us clothes, it was
just a ploy to get us down there thinking that if we were already in
Vegas we'd just have to do the show, and she wouldn't have to pay us!
Not only did they not feed us, Jase and I had to pay to get to Vegas
with "CRAZY" as our driver WHO DIDN'T DRIVE! and buy food and pay to
go to the spa/gym...that was all suppose to be a part of the deal
with us being in her show....and mind you, we were not just wearing
normal clothes we were practically butt naked in lingerie!
Jase and I proceeded to have fun hanging with fans and gambling, and
he won me two giant stuffed animals (on his first try at darts) a
bear and a gorilla that looked kinda like him and me ( I was the pink
bear of coarse)! We had alot of fun together, but when it came time
to do the fashion show, we felt taken advantage of, and Trishelle had
this "I can't do anything about this!" attitude! She said that " She
doesn't care about being half naked on stage, because she did
playboy!" For Diane, Lori and I, that is not that easy, especially
since we were promised to be compensated, and were not going to get
anything for showing the kitty booties! ( We didn't win BB5 so we are
still angel sweet sweet poor asses!) So WHAT DID WE DO.. we did what
all Big Brother people know how to do, we formed an alliance! Believe
me I never thought Jase and I would be forming an alliance with those
two, but it happened! 4 hours before the show Lori, Diane Jase and I
rented a car, and snuck out of Vegas, leaving all those crazies
behind with a fashion show that only consisted of basically Trishelle
and some chick from "Amish and the city" !
So with 5 hours to home, Lori, Diane, and I talked Big Brother
madness!!!!! and just about drove Jase to suicide! But there's an
understanding between Diane and I, and a Okayness with each other
that came out of it, with a realization of letting go the past! Which
was needed between us girls for sure! Even though we all didn't get
along so much in the house, the BB girls and Jase were there for each
other in the end which I found to be pretty dam cool, I guess there
is this weird bond living with those people in that house huh!
.....The End.
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Hi My name's Melissa and im new here i just wanted to introduce
myself!! Ima big Lori fan and very disappointed she got evicted so
soon!! buti was very happy to find a group for her!!
Chat live with Lori Valenti ("Big Brother 5") on Monday, November 8th, at 7:00 pm (pt) / 10:00 pm (et) to find ask about her BB5 experience and life after.
On Wednesday at 4PM ET Lori along with Scott Long and Diane Henry will be on theFishbowl.com's internet radio show. It's pretty fun, you get to submit questions to them and they answer them live.
I was hoping the same thing.
I am sick of the four horsemen. mostly Jase and Scott. They need to
go, but they probably will end up being there in the end. UGH!
Chris
On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 10:00, mckr33@... wrote:
> I too am BUMMMMMMED!!!!!!! Jase was acting like a frigin idiot when Drew
won!!!! Since Drew is part of the 'horesmen alliance' I dont see him putting one
of the idiots up, however this game is one you cant always predict. I was soooo
hoping Will or one of the girls got HOH!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
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Sheesh.It’s sad she’s gone.I hope she’s one of the ones they
bring back later.She’s so
gorgeous.She might make a gay man
turn straight…Will, be listening, lol.
Jon
-----Original Message----- From: Christina Kearney
[mailto:chris@...] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:53
AM To: Lori_Valenti@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Lori_Valenti]
Tonights show
Yeah I am upset myself. I was hoping to see Lori
last longer then this.
On a side note did you all see the way Jase ans
Scott were acting when they heard Drew won HOH. They looked like
little kids in a candy store. I hope Drew Puts one of them up to
end this craziness. Someone needs to do it to them. They think they rule
the house.
Chris
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 22:05, Gary wrote: > S > P > O > I > L > E > R > > S > P > A > C > E > > X > X > X > X > X > > I am so Upset to see our girl evicited > > > > > Find out about your favorite celebrities: > > http://www.celebrityspider.com > > and movies: > > http://www.cinemaspider.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
I too am BUMMMMMMED!!!!!!! Jase was acting like a frigin idiot when Drew
won!!!! Since Drew is part of the 'horesmen alliance' I dont see him putting one
of the idiots up, however this game is one you cant always predict. I was soooo
hoping Will or one of the girls got HOH!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah I am upset myself. I was hoping to see Lori last longer then
this.
On a side note did you all see the way Jase ans Scott were acting when
they heard Drew won HOH. They looked like little kids in a candy
store. I hope Drew Puts one of them up to end this craziness. Someone
needs to do it to them. They think they rule the house.
Chris
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 22:05, Gary wrote:
> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
>
> S
> P
> A
> C
> E
>
> X
> X
> X
> X
> X
>
> I am so Upset to see our girl evicited
>
>
>
>
> Find out about your favorite celebrities:
>
> http://www.celebrityspider.com
>
> and movies:
>
> http://www.cinemaspider.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>