The judges did scold everyone who did the lifts. I didn't see the error in the dance that Jerry did. I'll have to go back and watch the tape again. They told Emmitt, "No lifts, why did you put that in there?" Then they scolded Joey with "no lifts, why the gymastics, stick to the dance." They told Willa, no lifts. They were worst with Mario because he had done it last week and came back and did the same thing. I tell you who ever comes back better stick by the rules next week or the show is going to get ugly!
I do have to agree that Sara's dance was nice and a great improvement over last week but really it was not a jive much. It was more like pepped up line dancing. You really can't to the quick flicking of the feet in cowboy boots.
Mario DID do the dance, and he did it very well. He was fantastic. Even the judges had to admit that. What they didn't like was that he broke the hold with Karina to do a roll. I read that the reason for this was Karina's injury, that she had difficulty holding these positions. It was to make it easier on her. Len also asked whose idea it was to do that, and Karina hid behind Mario. If you recall, they were arguing over whether to do something (in the rehearsal footage), and many think that was it, that Mario was hesitant. Even if he wasn't, and he wanted to make the dance easier for her, I could understand that. It's amazing that she was able to dance with him at all, given her injury. I thought they handled the crisis beautifully. In fact, if this were Season 1, they would have scored 3 10's
for how they danced and in spite of the obvious handicap.
Now ... if they want to be "picky" about following the rules to the letter, they should have chastized Sara for her country version of the jive which just about slipped under technically -- in the view of some and not others. As many feel that was no jive. Also she was slow, and the jive is fast. She did not have the flicks and kicks down. She was a bit awkward and stiff. It was barely a jive, if you can even call it that, and things were thrown in that the judges could have called them on. It was just good dancing, really. Jerry also should have been chastized if they want to be picky.
Mario did the tango. So anyone who maintains Sara did the jive, well there should be no double standard.
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i had a good time waticnhing dnancing with the stars tonight i just
love atht joey lawrence hes such a good dnacer i have a godo time
watghin him hes sexy and he knwos how to move i vteod 9 tioems for him
i want him to win i love sexy men who know how to dance thats why i
like dancing itht the stars that shows full of sexy men who know how
to candce ha ha ha but joyes my favoriet.
phyl
Yes, the judges were on a tear. I don't believe it for a minute, though. I think this is all staged to keep two very superior dancers from shining every week. I am talking about Mario and Joey. The real pro dancers know better than to disregard the rules. I don't believe the fighting of Willa and Maks either. I think that is staged too. It's called show biz folks. <g> Will it keep me from watching the show? No.
And can someone tell me why Vivica did not do the jive like the other ladies did? I don't remember them doing that the last two seasons; the men all did the same dance and the ladies did another. That doesn't jive, pardon the pun, either. Ah well.
IMHO Monique blew them all away. Next year I wish they would
let us vote for who should go home, not who should stay. Harry and Jerry would get my vote.
CJ
diva_style7 <diva_style7@...> wrote:
I thought the judges were mean and harsh tonight on judge but it is true they need to follow the rules.
I really enjoyed Louis, Monique, Sara, and Tony as my choices.
Lisa
I think that the judges are right about the couples following the rules laid out. The professionals should step up to the plate and not put the lifts into the routines. I do enjoy watching them though. Melissa
I agree. They are not very kind, really, all trying to be like Simon Cowel. Sometimes you don't have to be so cruel, you know? They talk to Mario as if he were a little boy, yelling and scolding him. He's a man. If they want to say something, fine, but treat him with some respect.
linkyloomis <linkyloomis@...> wrote:
I THOUGHT THE JUDGES WERE RUDE AND INTIMIDATING WITH MARIO LOPEZ AND THEY SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO HIM
Karina's injury happened hours before the live show. Doctors had to be called. She was in excruciating pain, and people were worried she wouldn't be able to dance.
HolidayswithLisa@... wrote:
I thought Karina didn't have the injury it was Jerry's partner that had the injury.
Lisa
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There were two times that Mario broke the hold or position of the tango during the middle of the dance. One was with the roll and the other was with some moves a little bit after the roll. They did NOT put the roll and other moves in AFTER Karina's injury. They practiced them ALL week. You cannot say that he did that to help her out because of the pain because they practiced them all week. That is a crock!!!
Mario planned it. Mario wanted it. Mario thought it was better t.v. Mario has to take his lumps!
Was it a tango? Yes, but not to the rules. Was it great dancing? YES! Was Mario disrepectful to the judges by AGAIN not sticking to the rules? YES! He threw their comments last week into their FACES!!! A definant TEENAGE BOY.
They treated Mario like a boy because he is acting like a teen age boy. Teenagers you tell them NOT to do something and they do it. Mario was told to stick to the dance and he did not stick to the dance. Teenager! They always think they know better. I think the dance was wonderful. Great entertainment BUT it was not by the rules.
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I agree with you. On last week's show they chastised him for the same thing and then he turned around and did the same thing. He was also lame for the reason he gave for doing it - to give the audience more fun. He still needs to adhere to the rules that are set.
They treated Mario like a boy because he is acting like a teen age boy. Teenagers you tell them NOT to do something and they do it. Mario was told to stick to the dance and he did not stick to the dance. Teenager! They always think they know better. I think the dance was wonderful. Great entertainment BUT it was not by the rules.
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I agree with you about the Pros. They know the rules. They are
playing the role of teacher. They should have started with the
rules, just like every teacher does the first day of school.
--- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, Elizabeth Hanson
<highcore6@...> wrote:
>
> I enjoyed the show as usual. Sarah really improved this week!
However, the cowboy boots really don't let you point your toes much.
Monique was great! I didn't like her outfit, I don't like those
fringe things. The color was good I just don't like fringe. Jerry
did o.k., he did improve this week. I think his fans are going to
vote, vote, vote to keep him there for the waltz. That is just
silly, that man has so much money he could higher a room full of
dance instructors to help him learn to waltz for his daughters
wedding he does not need to be on the show. Harry was o.k. still
stiff, however, he did improve. He needs more laughing Yoga. For
his sake I hope next week isn't one of the hip action latin dances as
I don't think he can do it. Vivica was lovely and determined.
>
> I liked Cheryl and Emmett. I didn't realize that that kick was a
lift. I think since they were the first one's out they got more
knocked off their score than if they had danced later. Willa, Joey
and Mario all had great dances but they broke the rules. I don't get
it why don't the professionals tell them NO and it be NO. They
should be familiar with the rules and I think it is really up to them
to make sure the dance is within the rules.
>
> I don't think that the judges were mean. They had no choice.
Especially Mario. Really after the beating they gave him last week
it really was disrespectful to come out and not keep to the rules
this week. The others should have watched what happened to Mario and
not disobeyed the rules. Rules are there for a reason and they all
need to follow the rules. Don't worry, I think Mario and Joey at
least will have enough fan base to pull them through to next week. I
think Emmett will make it too but Willa is really in a shaky position.
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So true. He needs to get with the program and do the dances like the
majority is doing and stop with this showboatinng. The same goes for
Joey :(
--- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, Claudia
<mjcc64@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with you. On last week's show they chastised him for the
same thing
> and then he turned around and did the same thing. He was also lame
for the
> reason he gave for doing it - to give the audience more fun. He
still needs
> to adhere to the rules that are set.
>
> On 9/27/06, Elizabeth Hanson <highcore6@...> wrote:
> >
> > They treated Mario like a boy because he is acting like a
teen age
> > boy. Teenagers you tell them NOT to do something and they do
it. Mario was
> > told to stick to the dance and he did not stick to the dance.
Teenager!
> > They always think they know better. I think the dance was
wonderful. Great
> > entertainment BUT it was not by the rules.
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I think that Willa had a very valid point. Some people vote based on
popularity not dancing. I think that is very unfair when it is
a 'dancing' contest. I think it would be a shame if she went home
before Jerry or Harry. I believe she is improving more than them and
could bring more to future episodes as the competition gets tougher.
--- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, KristenD
<kristendny@...> wrote:
>
> I think the judges were absolutely absurd. If Mario broke the
rules, so did Jerry, Joey and Sara. You can't praise it in one and
criticize it in another. Mario is the only one who truly nailed the
dance he was assigned to do this night. He was the best, and I am
sick of the hateful way that Len yells at him. In fact, I think the
way they treat all the dancers is pretty pathetic.
>
> Monique was my second favorite of the night. I think she did a
great job with the jive. I loved her performance. I really like
her, and I love Louis. I didn't see much "jive" in what Sara did.
Emmit was stiff tonight and dull. Harry is still stiff and a little
awkward but better. I thought Vivica was okay but boring to watch.
Joey's dancing was a little weird tonight. I liked a lot of what he
did. At other times not so much. Jerry was endearing, I thought.
And I really think it's sweet of him wanting to do this for his
daughter's wedding. Willa ... I am sorry to say was not as good as I
hoped she would be and expected. Her comments about the other
celebrities being award winners and her not being an award winner
will not increase her popularity, I'm afraid.
>
> So, to stick it to the judges, all our votes in this house went
to Mario.
>
> Elizabeth Hanson <highcore6@...> wrote:
> I enjoyed the show as usual. Sarah really improved
this week! However, the cowboy boots really don't let you point your
toes much. Monique was great! I didn't like her outfit, I don't
like those fringe things. The color was good I just don't like
fringe. Jerry did o.k., he did improve this week. I think his fans
are going to vote, vote, vote to keep him there for the waltz. That
is just silly, that man has so much money he could higher a room full
of dance instructors to help him learn to waltz for his daughters
wedding he does not need to be on the show. Harry was o.k. still
stiff, however, he did improve. He needs more laughing Yoga. For
his sake I hope next week isn't one of the hip action latin dances as
I don't think he can do it. Vivica was lovely and determined.
>
> I liked Cheryl and Emmett. I didn't realize that that kick was a
lift. I think since they were the first one's out they got more
knocked off their score than if they had danced later. Willa, Joey
and Mario all had great dances but they broke the rules. I don't get
it why don't the professionals tell them NO and it be NO. They
should be familiar with the rules and I think it is really up to them
to make sure the dance is within the rules.
>
> I don't think that the judges were mean. They had no choice.
Especially Mario. Really after the beating they gave him last week
it really was disrespectful to come out and not keep to the rules
this week. The others should have watched what happened to Mario and
not disobeyed the rules. Rules are there for a reason and they all
need to follow the rules. Don't worry, I think Mario and Joey at
least will have enough fan base to pull them through to next week. I
think Emmett will make it too but Willa is really in a shaky position.
>
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hey there - i'm new to this group -
for some unknown reason - my dvr cut out after about 45 minutes of
taping... it just got up to jerry starting... so i missed mario & joey
- my favorites...
anyone know where i can find video of the performances?
thanks!
rachel
Who is this monica everyone keeps talking about? Do you mean monique?
My pick is Monique and Louis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, "Glenda"
<gnelms15@...> wrote:
>
> hey there, what do u think of tonight's dances? I like vivica's and
> nick's tango, it was sexy and awesome.
>
> Glenda
>
I thought Vivica's tango was a little boring.
--- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, "Glenda"
<gnelms15@...> wrote:
>
> hey there, what do u think of tonight's dances? I like vivica's and
> nick's tango, it was sexy and awesome.
>
> Glenda
>
Absolutely. I understand that the judges want to adhere to
professional standards of judging, however, what they seem to fail to
realize is that a vast majority of the people who watch are not
professionals or have any even seen professional competition. The
people who watch just want to be entertained and some of the rules just
restrict the stars from doing what they do best... entertain.
--- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, "or442002"
<or442002@...> wrote:
>
> should some restrictions be eliminated so the dancers could give it
> their best shot every week?
>
Then that should be true for everyone, no double standard.
Candi <kycandi@...> wrote:
So true. He needs to get with the program and do the dances like the majority is doing and stop with this showboatinng. The same goes for Joey :(
--- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, Claudia <mjcc64@...> wrote: > > I agree with you. On last week's show they chastised him for the same thing > and
then he turned around and did the same thing. He was also lame for the > reason he gave for doing it - to give the audience more fun. He still needs > to adhere to the rules that are set. > > On 9/27/06, Elizabeth Hanson <highcore6@...> wrote: > > > > They treated Mario like a boy because he is acting like a teen age > > boy. Teenagers you tell them NOT to do something and they do it. Mario was > > told to stick to the dance and he did not stick to the dance. Teenager! > > They always think they know better. I think the dance was wonderful. Great > > entertainment BUT it was not by the rules. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Get on board. You're invited<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40791/*http://advision.webevents.y ahoo.com/mailbeta>to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > > > > > > > > > -- > "Work like you don't need money, > Love like you've never been hurt, > And dance like no one's watching." >
Unfortunately, Willa's comment came across as saying she needed the win or
deserved it more, and that the other celebrities had an advantage over her because they were award winners, etc. It is true they have fan bases, and she doesn't.
But all over the ABC boards, she's being accused of bashing the other
contestants and whining. I don't think that is going to help her win the popularity
contest, and that's what she was trying to do.
I like her and have liked her from the beginning. I think she's a great dancer.
But what she needed was popularity, and the comments last night backfired,
especially since the dance fell short of what people expected of her.
Jennifer <thelavaturtle@...> wrote:
I think that Willa had a very valid point. Some people vote based on popularity not dancing. I think that is very unfair when it is a 'dancing' contest. I think it would be a shame if she went home before Jerry or Harry. I believe she is improving more than them and could bring more to future episodes as the competition gets tougher.
--- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, KristenD <kristendny@...> wrote: > > I think the judges were absolutely absurd. If Mario broke the rules, so did Jerry, Joey and Sara. You can't praise
it in one and criticize it in another. Mario is the only one who truly nailed the dance he was assigned to do this night. He was the best, and I am sick of the hateful way that Len yells at him. In fact, I think the way they treat all the dancers is pretty pathetic. > > Monique was my second favorite of the night. I think she did a great job with the jive. I loved her performance. I really like her, and I love Louis. I didn't see much "jive" in what Sara did. Emmit was stiff tonight and dull. Harry is still stiff and a little awkward but better. I thought Vivica was okay but boring to watch. Joey's dancing was a little weird tonight. I liked a lot of what he did. At other times not so much. Jerry was endearing, I thought. And I really think it's sweet of him wanting to do this for his daughter's wedding. Willa ... I am sorry to say was not as good as I hoped she would be and expected. Her comments about the
other celebrities being award winners and her not being an award winner will not increase her popularity, I'm afraid. > > So, to stick it to the judges, all our votes in this house went to Mario. > > Elizabeth Hanson <highcore6@...> wrote: > I enjoyed the show as usual. Sarah really improved this week! However, the cowboy boots really don't let you point your toes much. Monique was great! I didn't like her outfit, I don't like those fringe things. The color was good I just don't like fringe. Jerry did o.k., he did improve this week. I think his fans are going to vote, vote, vote to keep him there for the waltz. That is just silly, that man has so much money he could higher a room full of dance instructors to help him learn to waltz for his daughters wedding he does not need to be on the show. Harry was o.k. still stiff, however, he did improve. He needs more laughing Yoga. For
his sake I hope next week isn't one of the hip action latin dances as I don't think he can do it. Vivica was lovely and determined. > > I liked Cheryl and Emmett. I didn't realize that that kick was a lift. I think since they were the first one's out they got more knocked off their score than if they had danced later. Willa, Joey and Mario all had great dances but they broke the rules. I don't get it why don't the professionals tell them NO and it be NO. They should be familiar with the rules and I think it is really up to them to make sure the dance is within the rules. > > I don't think that the judges were mean. They had no choice. Especially Mario. Really after the beating they gave him last week it really was disrespectful to come out and not keep to the rules this week. The others should have watched what happened to Mario and not disobeyed the rules. Rules are there for a reason and they all
need to follow the rules. Don't worry, I think Mario and Joey at least will have enough fan base to pull them through to next week. I think Emmett will make it too but Willa is really in a shaky position. > > Elizabeth > > > > > Elizabeth Hanson > Life partner to Scott "the mosquito man" Hanson > Proud Mamma to Esther Nozomi 4-13-92, Sarah Megumi 12-11-93, Hannah Sakae 7-3-01 and Angel Ethan Takae 5-11-91 > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > > > > DK > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. >
I don't think you know for a fact whether they altered the routine to accomodate her injury, which happened hours before. (I believe it, but it is a question of who you believe.) Nor do you know Mario planned it. Karina is the choreographer and when Len asked whose decision it was, she hid behind Mario. I believe he didn't think they would get in trouble for what they did, since they mosty delivered the tango and an awesome one, with a handicap. I don't agree he did it to be defiant. I do think he wanted to do well, and I'm sure that's what they all want, and they will all try to give it that extra something.
I also don't care if they have to constructively critique something. You can still treat people with respect. This is pretty new to him, and I think he has relied on Katrina's expertise. If anything, she has let him down.
Sara and Jerry should have been
held to the same standard that Mario was.
Also, in Season 1 there were a lot of things people just got away with - even Season 2. Look how long it took Len to slam Master P, and he actually deserved it.
Nope, sorry, couldn't disagree with you more.
Elizabeth Hanson <highcore6@...> wrote:
There were two times that Mario broke the hold or position of the tango during the middle of the dance. One was with the roll and the other was with
some moves a little bit after the roll. They did NOT put the roll and other moves in AFTER Karina's injury. They practiced them ALL week. You cannot say that he did that to help her out because of the pain because they practiced them all week. That is a crock!!!
Mario planned it. Mario wanted it. Mario thought it was better t.v. Mario has to take his lumps!
Was it a tango? Yes, but not to the rules. Was it great dancing? YES! Was Mario disrepectful to the judges by AGAIN not sticking to the rules? YES! He threw their comments last week into their FACES!!! A definant TEENAGE BOY.
I don't think he is acting like a teenager. That's not an excuse to disrespect someone. But I would not treat my teenager that way either.
Elizabeth Hanson <highcore6@...> wrote:
They treated Mario like a boy because he is acting like a teen age boy. Teenagers you tell them NOT to do something and they do it. Mario was told to stick to the dance and he did not stick to the dance. Teenager! They always think they know better. I think the dance was wonderful. Great
entertainment BUT it was not by the rules.
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- but.............part of the cool thing about Dancing With the
Stars is that it has gave new life to ballroom and latin dancing and
elevated it's popularity to mainstream. Mario, Joey and the others
are great dancers and they don't need to break the rules of ballroom
or atin dances to stand out or entertain. There has to be some
guidelines for wahat can and can't be performed otherwise sooner or
later there won't be dances like the foxtrot or tango etc. It
would just be a dance routine in which case instead of getting pro
ballromm and latin dancers they could just get paula abdul and janet
jackson to choreograph their routines.
In Mario's case I have to wonder what he was thinking after last
week but most of the blame go to their pro partners. Do they not
know the rules?
-- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer"
<thelavaturtle@...> wrote:
>
> Absolutely. I understand that the judges want to adhere to
> professional standards of judging, however, what they seem to fail
to
> realize is that a vast majority of the people who watch are not
> professionals or have any even seen professional competition. The
> people who watch just want to be entertained and some of the rules
just
> restrict the stars from doing what they do best... entertain.
>
> --- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, "or442002"
> <or442002@> wrote:
> >
> > should some restrictions be eliminated so the dancers could give
it
> > their best shot every week?
> >
>
does anybody have old pictures of joey when he was on give me a break?
my sister and i live in 2 different states and we were trying to
figure where we saw him before. i checked the web and they said he was
on blossom. i dont remember that show but do remember give me a break.
wasnt he also on facts of life...could somebody please email me and
let me know...i would apprecitate it and get some pictures from back
then....thank you....sharon....later..
I don't see that there was a double standard. They docked Emmitt, Joey and Mario for the violations they did in the dance. For Mario, this was the second week in a row that he had done that. The judges mentioned it last week and it seems like they vented their frustration that he didn't listen. It reminds me of when Master P continued to do his own thing last season - not wearing the proper shoes, not performing to a better level. They became increasingly frustrated with him but at first they were cool with him.
So true. He needs to get with the program and do the dances like the majority is doing and stop with this showboatinng. The same goes for Joey :(
--- In Dancing_With_the_Stars_Show@yahoogroups.com, Claudia
<mjcc64@...> wrote: > > I agree with you. On last week's show they chastised him for the same thing > and
then he turned around and did the same thing. He was also lame for the > reason he gave for doing it - to give the audience more fun. He still needs > to adhere to the rules that are set. >
> On 9/27/06, Elizabeth Hanson <highcore6@...> wrote: > > > > They treated Mario like a boy because he is acting like a teen age > > boy. Teenagers you tell them NOT to do something and they do it. Mario was > > told to stick to the dance and he did not stick to the dance. Teenager! > > They always think they know better. I think the dance was wonderful. Great > > entertainment BUT it was not by the rules.
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