Dancing With The Stars has donated a Season VII cast signed reprint to benefit
Recording For The Blind & Dyslexic.  You can check it out at

www.ebay.com/mbcharity

Thanks for your support!

MB

Thanks to all of you for joining my Dance War group! You
are all invited to join my group for America's Best Dance Crew which
begins tonight on MTV.

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Americas_Best_Dance_Crew/join

Thanks!

Dancing With The Stars has donated 2 VIP tickets to benefit National
Military Family Association.  You can check it out at:

www.ebay.com/mbcharity

Thanks for your support!

MB

The show has donated a poster autographed by Carrie Ann, Bruno, Drew
Lachey and most of the contestants to benefit Recording For The Blind
& Dyslexic.  You can check it out at

  www.ebay.com/mbcharity

Thanks for your support!

MB

Hi Anita,

Thanks for the info on this show (which I will watch in 2 minutes)
and "America's Ballroom Challenge", which I will watch on Wed.

Thanks Again,
Anna




--- In Dance_War@yahoogroups.com, "wadahoot3" <WADAHOOT@...> wrote:
>
> I think that pretty much everyone on this message board came over
> from the SYTYCD board, but just in case, I'll cross-post here:
>
> America's Best Dance Crew --- This was a fun show! It's
predominatly
> hip-hop with popping/locking thrown in, and these kids are
> stupendous! I don't know HOW anyone can move their bodies that way!
>
> I was especially impressed with the Jabberwokez (sp?) because they
> wear masks, and when asked why, they said that they didn't want the
> individual dancers to take away from the whole, big picture. Very
> cool!
>
> The first airing (last night & the dates currently on the webpage)
was
> a try-out episode, and it looks like it will be shown a couple of
more
> times.
>
> Here's the web-site
> http://www.mtv.com/ontv/dyn/dance_crew/series.jhtml
>
> Anita ~ Indianapolis
>

I think that pretty much everyone on this message board came over
from the SYTYCD board, but just in case, I'll cross-post here:

America's Best Dance Crew --- This was a fun show! It's predominatly
hip-hop with popping/locking thrown in, and these kids are
stupendous! I don't know HOW anyone can move their bodies that way!

I was especially impressed with the Jabberwokez (sp?) because they
wear masks, and when asked why, they said that they didn't want the
individual dancers to take away from the whole, big picture. Very
cool!

The first airing (last night & the dates currently on the webpage) was
a try-out episode, and it looks like it will be shown a couple of more
times.

Here's the web-site
http://www.mtv.com/ontv/dyn/dance_crew/series.jhtml

Anita ~ Indianapolis

I think that pretty much everyone on this message board came over from
the SYTYCD board, but just in case, I'll cross-post here:

Apparently I missed the first week, but I'll pass it along anyway in
case anyone's interested.

PBS has America's Ballroom Challenge currently on.   Here's the webpage
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/ballroomchallenge/  Be sure to check the local
listings (under the times on the right column), as they do vary with
the PBS stations able to play what works better in their market.

Enjoy (if ballroom is your cup of tea!)!

Anita ~ Indianapolis

No. I quit after one episode.

         Vicki

I care- somewhat - I'm currently taking tap dance classes
on Mondays from 7 - 8 PM.  By the time I get home it's 8:30,
so I miss half the show, but I see it the next day (was today)
on the ABC website.

Once again, I thought Bruno's team was better, although there
are a few members of Carrie Anne's tream that I like.
Actually, the best number in the show was the opening number,
done by everyone!  But I have to admit, this show is NOT
anyway near as good as "Dancing With The Stars" or "So You
Think You Can Dance".
Anna


-- In Dance_War@yahoogroups.com, "Roxanne Gaither" <stingray5316@...>
wrote:
>
> It's off my radar.  I didn't even give it a thought last night.
> Bring on DWTS!
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: skee8888
>   To: Dance_War@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:52 PM
>   Subject: [Dance_War] Does anyone care about this show?
>
>
>   I sure don't care about this show. I watched last night and was
underwhelmed to say the least. I was very surprised Team Bruno got
less votes than Team Carrie Ann. I doubt I'll watch Dance War again.
It just doesn't measure up imo.
>
>   Skee
>

----- Original Message -----

From: skee8888

To: Dance_War@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:52 PM

Subject: [Dance_War] Does anyone care about this show?

I sure don't care about this show. I watched last night and was underwhelmed to say the least. I was very surprised Team Bruno got less votes than Team Carrie Ann. I doubt I'll watch Dance War again. It just doesn't measure up imo.

Skee

I get a kick out of Bruno.  I think he's funny.  I only watched this
last one to see him plus see who got the least phone-in votes.  I'll
wait for Dancing With The Stars to start up again and will skip this
Dance War series totally.

Skee

----- Original Message -----

From: skee8888

To: Dance_War@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:52 PM

Subject: [Dance_War] Does anyone care about this show?

I sure don't care about this show. I watched last night and was underwhelmed to say the least. I was very surprised Team Bruno got less votes than Team Carrie Ann. I doubt I'll watch Dance War again. It just doesn't measure up imo.

Skee

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I sure don't care about this show. I watched last night and was underwhelmed to
say the least.  I was very surprised Team Bruno got less votes than Team Carrie
Ann.  I doubt I'll watch Dance War again.  It just doesn't measure up imo.

Skee

Article provided a bit of a 'wow' moment for me, but then so many
performance genres rely on 'who you know' for the major breaks.

Within the dance world, there may tend to be only 2-3 degrees of
separation among those who become known to the general public.

I thought this was an interesting article that you all might be
interested in :)

http://newsformormons.com/2008/01/23/utahns-star-rising-as-he-sings-dances-on-ho\
t-reality-show/

Skee

"Lost" is my favorite TV show!  I wish there hadn't been such long
"in-betweens" on the series.  I can't wait 'til Jan. 31.  I'll be so
happy it's back on air :)

Skee

As a result of lots of holiday shopping, I'm now undertaking a major
marathon of "Lost" seasons 1-3 so I'll be up to speed for the Jan 31
premiere of season 4. Somehow, that just felt more compelling than
tuning in to this show. I'm glad to hear I didn't really miss anything.

----- Original Message -----

From: Peter Goslett

To: Dance_War@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:45 PM

Subject: [Dance_War] Last night's show

Well; I don't know about anyone else, but I'm afraid that this hybrid show, which is better than Dancing With the Stars, but not as good as either So You Think You Can Dance or American Idol, didn't live up to the hype that went before it.

 

I think that each team that loses a member on a weekly basis will be devastated by the loss, and I'm not sure that we'll keep watching. So, in the end, one team could finish up with six and the other team will cold finish up with one? Gimme a break, please!

 

Having said that, I do think that Team Bruno won last night! His team was more alive, and seemed to me to express themselves better, both vocally and terpsichordically.

 

Nevertheless, the main question remains: Do I care???

 

Peter G

NYC

Overall, I think Bruno's team did a better job of both
dancing and singing.  The really nice thing about the show
is the grand prize.  The remaining (8 or 10?) will form a
new dancing/singing group and will go on tour as the opening
act of a major talent.  What a great opportunity for them!
I didn't know this before--just found out on the show's
page on the ABC site.
Anna




--- In Dance_War@yahoogroups.com, Elisabet.Montalvo@... wrote:
>
> Lol. I love the main question. Lol.
>
> I really like Carrie Ann's teams last song.
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Peter Goslett" <cpeterbg@...>
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:45:25
> To:<Dance_War@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Dance_War] Last night's show
>
>
> Well; I don't know about anyone else, but I'm afraid that this
hybrid show, which is better than Dancing With the Stars, but not as
good as either So You Think You Can Dance or American Idol, didn't
live up to the hype that went before it.
>  
> I think that each team that loses a member on a weekly basis will
be devastated by the loss, and I'm not sure that we'll keep watching.
So, in the end, one team could finish up with six and the other team
will cold finish up with one? Gimme a break, please!
>  
> Having said that, I do think that Team Bruno won last night! His
team was more alive, and seemed to me to express themselves better,
both vocally and terpsichordically.
>  
> Nevertheless, the main question remains: Do I care???
>  
> Peter G
> NYC
>

Lol. I love the main question. Lol.

I really like Carrie Ann's teams last song.


Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "Peter Goslett" <cpeterbg@...>

Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:45:25
To:<Dance_War@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Dance_War] Last night's show


Well; I don't know about anyone else, but I'm afraid that this hybrid show,
which is better than Dancing With the Stars, but not as good as either So You
Think You Can Dance or American Idol, didn't live up to the hype that went
before it.
 
I think that each team that loses a member on a weekly basis will be devastated
by the loss, and I'm not sure that we'll keep watching. So, in the end, one team
could finish up with six and the other team will cold finish up with one? Gimme
a break, please!
 
Having said that, I do think that Team Bruno won last night! His team was more
alive, and seemed to me to express themselves better, both vocally and
terpsichordically.
 
Nevertheless, the main question remains: Do I care???
 
Peter G
NYC

I agree.  I like the show and ill watch but it's almost a little lame.  And I'd
never compare it to so you think you can dance.  It's nowhere near that level.
If I were the kids I'd be gratefil for the opportunity but if given a choice I'd
choose so you think you cqn dance to be on any day.




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-----Original Message-----
From: skee88@...

Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:14:43
To:Dance_War@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Dance_War] Re: Last night's show


I disagree. I don't think Dance War is better than Dancing With The
  Stars. I do think Dance War could be compared to So You Think You Can
  Dance as they are similar in concept; but I do not think it can be
  compared to Dancing With The Stars or American Idol which are totally
  different themes.

  I watched last night and gave all 5 of my phone-in votes to Team Bruno.
  I'm taking this show on a week to week basis as I am not impressed with
  its production at all.

  Skee

  From: cpeterbg@quikenet. <mailto:cpeterbg%40quikenet.com> com(Peter Goslett)
Date: Tue, Jan 22, 2008,
  5:45pm (CST+1)
  Subject: [Dance_War] Last night's show

  Well; I don't know about anyone else, but I'm afraid that this hybrid
  show, which is better than Dancing With the Stars, but not as good as
  either So You Think You Can Dance or American Idol, didn't live up to
  the hype that went before it.
   
  I think that each team that loses a member on a weekly basis will be
  devastated by the loss, and I'm not sure that we'll keep watching. So,
  in the end, one team could finish up with six and the other team will
  cold finish up with one? Gimme a break, please!
   
  Having said that, I do think that Team Bruno won last night! His team
  was more alive, and seemed to me to express themselves better, both
  vocally and terpsichordically.
   
  Nevertheless, the main question remains: Do I care???
   
  Peter G
  NYC

I disagree.  I don't think Dance War is better than Dancing With The
Stars.  I do think Dance War could be compared to So You Think You Can
Dance as they are similar in concept; but I do not think it can be
compared to Dancing With The Stars or American Idol which are totally
different themes.

I watched last night and gave all 5 of my phone-in votes to Team Bruno.
I'm taking this show on a week to week basis as I am not impressed with
its production at all.

Skee


From: cpeterbg@...(Peter Goslett) Date: Tue, Jan 22, 2008,
5:45pm (CST+1)
Subject: [Dance_War] Last night's show

Well; I don't know about anyone else, but I'm afraid that this hybrid
show, which is better than Dancing With the Stars, but not as good as
either So You Think You Can Dance or American Idol, didn't live up to
the hype that went before it.
 
I think that each team that loses a member on a weekly basis will be
devastated by the loss, and I'm not sure that we'll keep watching. So,
in the end, one team could finish up with six and the other team will
cold finish up with one? Gimme a break, please!
 
Having said that, I do think that Team Bruno won last night! His team
was more alive, and seemed to me to express themselves better, both
vocally and terpsichordically.
 
Nevertheless, the main question remains: Do I care???
 
Peter G
NYC

Dancer, yes, singer, no. That is probably one reason why they started
by saying they were prepared to teach the participants to improve
dance moves, but not singing. (i.e, they were looking for "dancers
who can sing/have charisma" more than "singers who can dance" or any
other combination).


~~~~~~


As for my 'sources'... I'd tried to post a few days ago (it got lost)
that I was wondering whether the writers' strike was responsible for
nobody explaining the rules, etc during the premier episode.

Over the weekend, I read an article in my local TV guide that
mentioned Bruno's performing background and described the premise of
the show. It did note specific prizes for the dancers... which would
primarily consist of a performance gig for the winning TEAM. I
believe this is supposed to be a 6-8 week show? If so, and they are
losing one person each week, we should end up with some combination
of around six 'winning' dancers.

In my mind, voting for the winning 'team' on Dance Wars is almost
akin to voting for my favorite MTV video. My opinion is getting
logged, but I am not having any direct impact on any individual's
fate in the competition. I don't feel motivated to invest myself, as
I often do with SYTYCD or AI.

I feel a bit frustrated that if, for instance, Elizabeth has the
strongest audience support, her fan base can't be identified within
the overall voting results. She could still be the first to leave if
her team captain decides to drop her.





--- In Dance_War@yahoogroups.com, vickinanette@... wrote:
>
> Carrie is a dancer, like Bruno.
>
>
>           Vicki
>
>
> Well said, and illuminating. Thank you for your insights, and I'm
curious about your sources. Did I miss something somewhere? I'm sure
the writers' strike is one of the reasons the show is on. As for the
rest of it...well, I'll watch unless something more interesting
surfaces.
>
> Peter G
> NYC
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: artsyteds
>   To: Dance_War@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:12 AM
>   Subject: [Dance_War] Re: Last Night's Show (1/14)
>
>
>   Why is this show on the air? Because of the writers' strike. They
>   needed a filler, and Bruno & Carrie Ann (and Drew, apparently)
have
>   more free time than Nigel, so this is a very good way for them to
>   keep the viewers reminded to tune in for the next season of DWTS.
>   That's about it.
>
>   What is the purpose of the show? To "prove" whether Bruno or
Carrie
>   Ann are better at picking and nurturing talent. While Bruno is
said
>   to have a song-and-dance background, Carrie Ann does not. They
are
>   NOT coaching, and they will not be giving judges comments during
>   upcoming shows. In fact, I'm not sure exactly what their actual
>   contribution is - beyond adding their names and presence to the
>   broadcasts.
>
>   The performers do not get showcased as unique talents, but
trained in
>   tightly rehearsed and choreographed group pieces. (CA and B do
NOT
>   participate in any of the daily coaching and rehearsals -- and
>   probably don't see much more of what is happening from day to day
>   with the actual performers than we do.. that is, they observe the
>   final result of the other professonals' coaching work during the
live
>   performances.)
>
>   Where did they get the squealers? I don't know either, and hope
that
>   changes. Since DECISIONS are made individually by B and CA (that
is,
>   they each picked their teams, and each week the losing team will
drop
>   a member, based solely on B or CA deciding who to let go. No live
or
>   call-in audience has a voice in what happens to individual
>   performers.)
>
>   I keep reminding myself to say "performers" rather
than "contestants"
>   because the individuals are NOT competing for our votes, or for
>   any 'first place' prize at all. The contest is between Bruno and
>   Carrie Ann.
>
>   The winning TEAM will get some further performance opportunities
and
>   perks, but those prizes will be given to whomever is left during
the
>   final week of the show, whether it is two guys, three girls, etc.
>
>   I'll watch because SOME of the team performances are a lot of
fun.
>   But if I had to choose between this any any other program I'm
already
>   following, Dance Wars would not be my first pick.
>
>
>
>
>
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American Idol will be fine.  The biggest cash cow is the program itself.  The
advertising
revenues are enormous from the show and the show was always the biggest source
of
revenue.  In general people do not buy CDs very much any more - they copy their
friend's
or download illegally.  The whole record business is in a slump.  The concert
touring
business is also in a slump.  Ask yourself, when was the last time you went to a
concert or
bought a CD.  How many CDs or concerts have you paid for in the last 12 months.
I know I
haven't bought either this year.

That is what the individual Idols are up against s well as all of the other
Idols of the past.
But the Idol franchise is doing very well.  They can churn out a new Idol and
throw out the
past Idols to make way for the new ones  -- it's just business.  BTW,  Former
Idols are
making money touring in small clubs, in Broadway plays, movies, TV appearances. 
They
are doing OK.  Even 200,000 sales are better than many established artists are
selling.

Kira



--- In Dance_War@yahoogroups.com, "artsyteds" <artsyteds@...> wrote:
>
> I didn't watch the first two seasons of AI, but you'd have to have been
> on Mars to miss the chatter leading up to and following those
> competitions. I do think the show has 'jumped the shark' and will cease
> to be a cash cow, either with cd or live performance ticket sales.
>
> Sanjaya was not the defining moment - I consider Scott Saval to be the
> first indication that the show had drifted from its perported goal of
> finding big-potential talent into mindless entertainment. Real talent
> DOES continue to pop up at auditions and make it through several rounds
> of the weekly performances, but the voting process is clearly not an
> indicator of how many individuals are developing a loyalty to
> contestants that can translate into future profits for the performers
> or the machine behind them.
>
> Will I watch? Of course. And they do have a winning formula of getting
> us personally interested in individuals, so that we bother to tune in
> from week to week to root for them and see what they can do with the
> various themes given to them. It will probably be with us for a few
> more seasons, until something else grabs more public
> attention. ................ (Please, don't let it be a 24-7 live-cam of
> Britney/Paris/Lindsay...!)
>