Welcome also from the Vancouver, BC contingent of Code7R! :)

This bit of news about Michael O'Hare being ill is news to me too.  Need
to do some research on that...


Best, --= Dennis =--


The Master wrote:
>
>
> Welcome as well...
>
> --- On *Fri, 9/12/08, Water Witch /<wtr_witch@...>/* wrote:
>
>     From: Water Witch <wtr_witch@...>
>     Subject: Re: [Code7R] New member intro - WELCOME!!!
>     To: Code7R@yahoogroups.com
>     Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 12:39 AM
>
>     Sorry, Patricia... I think a lot of us were a bit caught up in the
>     9/11 thing.  I know I was.  I appreciate your commentary and I
>     believe the group was, as well.  Many stories amongst us.
>
>     I do not know about Michael O'Hare.  Group, any commentary?
>
>     the Witch
>     (I bought all the series finally in the last months... and am
>     missing only the movies now, myself!)
>
>

There was some mention of Mr. O'Hare being ill over at IMDB but
someone there had seen him on the stage in NY last year but nothing
more recent that I can find.

Alex


>
> Does anybody know what the others are up to? Also, I heard a rumor
that
> Michael O'Hare is very ill. Does anyone know about that?
>
> Thanks for listening!
>
> patricia
>

Hello everyone! I am a new member here and just thought I would check in and tell you a little bit about myself.

I am an original B5 fan and fondly remember being glued to the tube every week to find out what Joe had in store for our heroes. What a great trip! But real life kind of took over after that and I lost touch with the B5 universe for a few years. In fact, I didn't even know until last week that Andreas Katsulas had died! That was a real shocker and I felt very saddened.

You see, a few weeks ago I found some of my old B5 fanfic that I had written and started remembering why I had written it in the first place and all of a sudden I got the B5 bug again. Sooooo, I bought Season 1 on DVD, started watching, and have been falling in love all over again.

I know this list is a little slow right now, but that's okay because at the moment I'm a graduate student (make that a middle-aged graduate student) who also has to earn a living, so there isn't much free time. Still, I would enjoy some B5 conversation once in awhile and would also like to catch up with any news. I know that Rick Biggs and Tim Chaote both passed away (very great tragedies!) and I know that Jerry Doyle has a politically-oriented talk radio show (which unfortunately I can't get where I live).

Does anybody know what the others are up to? Also, I heard a rumor that Michael O'Hare is very ill. Does anyone know about that?

Thanks for listening!

patricia

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http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Shoulda-Been-Bigger-Star-Wars-Killed-Babylon-5-9880.html

Shoulda Been Bigger: How Star Wars Killed Babylon 5

By Josh Tyler: 2008-08-18 04:16:52

The 90s were a boon for science fiction. Star Trek was still in its heyday and more Star Wars was on the way. On television, you could turn the dial anywhere at almost any time of the day and run into someone racing through outer space or warping back in time. Syndication brought science fiction into homes and onto millions of screens, some shows like Quantum Leap critically acclaimed, others like Time Traxx were simply guilty pleasures. The 70s and 80s made Star Trek and Star Wars into mega-franchises, the next big thing in sci-fi was there somewhere ready and waiting in the 90s.

By any measure, the top contender to be the next geek attention getter should have been Babylon 5. On television, it was one of the most groundbreaking, critically acclaimed science fiction series of all time. All that linear storytelling you love on shows like Lost and Battlestar Galactica? B5 was doing it back in 1993. Computerized special effects? Babylon 5 took them off the big screen and brought them to television on a scale never before seen. Compelling characters, gripping, continuous storylines with complex plots; Babylon 5 was ahead of its time and perhaps, poised for a leap into history and the big screen.

In January of 1999, Babylon 5 left the airwaves. Not cancelled, simply completed. The show had done what its creator J. Michael Straczynski set out to do. The future seemed bright for further endeavors, but Babylon 5 inexplicably went nowhere. The spin-off show Crusade was quickly cancelled before it had a chance to catch on. Talk of a movie lingered for years, but never seemed to go anywhere. Eventually, people somehow seemed to forget. Since then the best its brilliant creator, JMS, has been able to manage are a few bonus direct to DVD episodes, done more out of love than profit making potential. Babylon 5 shoulda been bigger. Maybe it would have been bigger, if not for a little something called20Star Wars.

In 1999 George Lucas brought Star Wars back into the lives of science fiction geeks everywhere. As Babylon 5 was completing what should have been its triumphant run on television, its primary audience was focused almost entirely on lightsabers. In 1999 geeks stopped looking towards the future, stopped hoping for the next big thing, and started looking back as George Lucas viciously mined his own franchise’s past for fat nerd cash. Let’s face it, even the most hardcore sci-fi lover only has so much attention to spare. In 1999 the outer space nerd’s attention became firmly fixed on a galaxy far far away… and stayed=2 0there.

Over the next few years, more brilliant ideas would arrive… and fail in the Star Wars’ shadow. Farscape blew the minds of the few who bothered to see it, before being quietly cancelled and forgotten by all but the most hardcore fans. Firefly and then its subsequent movie Serenity arrived, wowed critics, and then ultimately failed to become the epic franchise it probably should have been. But Star Wars, despite all the disappointment, despite all the irritation George Lucas caused his fans, continued on. Your attention, my attention, our collective sci-fi attention was fixed there.

This morning, on the eve of Star Wars: The Clone Wars’s epic critical and financial flop, I think a lot of Star Wars geeks are waking up and wondering what the hell they’ve been doing for the past 9 or 10 years. Some are responding to Clone Wars with anger, some are taking it as a sort of personal affront. Others are simply giving up. Instead, maybe we should all look around and consider the things we’ve missed out on, by giving so much of our time to a franchise, an idea, that was going absolutely nowhere. Being a science fiction fan is supposed to be about looking towards the future. For the past decade or so, science fiction has been mired in an un rewarding past.

We’ve been living on Star Wars nostalgia, a contact high leftover from great movies we saw as kids, movies which no matter how much CGI George Lucas uses, will never be as good again. I’m speaking as a fellow geek here, I’m just as guilty as everyone else. Did I really need two Yoda action figures? Sitting here now in a post-Clone Wars world I have to admit, probably not. The prequels had their moments, but take a second to consider that maybe, just maybe we gave them too much of our attention. Think of all the things we’ve missed, by dressing up as Jedi and swinging around our plastic lightsabers. Maybe we should have dressed up as G’Kar or Londo instead. Babylon 5 shoulda been bigger, but we went with Jar Jar.

-- Frieda
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I did like Michael O'Hare, he was a tad unfortunate I think in that
MJS hadnt quite found the right formula when doing season 1, much of
the season where 1 off stories and filler stories, and the series
didnt really hit its stride until the latter part of season 1 and
the beggining of season 2.

But I just loved BB as Captain John Sheridan, and almost every scene
with Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurassik those guys are (Or where in
Andreas's case) fantastic actors.

Was sooooooo much more involving Trek, I hope we do see some more B5
in some shape or form, I hear MJS is working on a B5 graphic novel,
are the comics any good does anyone know?


--- In Code7R@yahoogroups.com, "Alex" <alexcat45@...> wrote:
>
> At first, I didn't like Sheridan at all.  He seemed like a usurper
> but he grew on me as time went on.  When I look back, Michael
O'Hare
> was a bit stiff at the first of Season 1 but he improved as time
> went on.   Boxleitner seemed to fall into his role easily.
>
> And welcome to the B5 world.  I consider it the best show *ever*
on
> television.  I came to it late also, when the Sci fi channel
showed
> it.
>
> Alex
>
> --- In Code7R@yahoogroups.com, "davidnavarromontes"
> <davidnavarromontes@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the warm welcome :-)
> >
> > Whats everyone been watching this summer?
> >
> > Oooh Just heard Bruce Boxleitners been cast in Heroes season 3!
He
> > was my favourite actor from B5, what did you all think when he
was
> > brought in to replace Michael O'Hare? (I know that must be a
> > reeeeeeeeeeeally old discussion point but I'm all shiny and new
> > still)
> >
> >
>

At first, I didn't like Sheridan at all.  He seemed like a usurper
but he grew on me as time went on.  When I look back, Michael O'Hare
was a bit stiff at the first of Season 1 but he improved as time
went on.   Boxleitner seemed to fall into his role easily.

And welcome to the B5 world.  I consider it the best show *ever* on
television.  I came to it late also, when the Sci fi channel showed
it.

Alex

--- In Code7R@yahoogroups.com, "davidnavarromontes"
<davidnavarromontes@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the warm welcome :-)
>
> Whats everyone been watching this summer?
>
> Oooh Just heard Bruce Boxleitners been cast in Heroes season 3! He
> was my favourite actor from B5, what did you all think when he was
> brought in to replace Michael O'Hare? (I know that must be a
> reeeeeeeeeeeally old discussion point but I'm all shiny and new
> still)
>
>

Thanks for the warm welcome :-)

Whats everyone been watching this summer?

Oooh Just heard Bruce Boxleitners been cast in Heroes season 3! He
was my favourite actor from B5, what did you all think when he was
brought in to replace Michael O'Hare? (I know that must be a
reeeeeeeeeeeally old discussion point but I'm all shiny and new
still)


--- In Code7R@yahoogroups.com, Water Witch <wtr_witch@...> wrote:
>
>
> We have become a less active group of late.  Hope we spiff up a
bit now that you have joined. 
>  
> C'mon, group, it's the dog days of summer and we have all be
watching/reading our scif... Wipe the sunscreen out of your eyes and
say hi to David, and let us all know what is going on!
>  
> the Witch
> (one of the Moderators... in case you were wondering)
>

Hello David!  Sorry nothing new here.
Mary Jo




--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Water Witch <wtr_witch@...> wrote:

> From: Water Witch <wtr_witch@...>
> Subject: [Code7R] Welcome David
> To: Code7R@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 8:15 PM
> We have become a less active group of late.  Hope we spiff
> up a bit now that you have joined. 
>  
> C'mon, group, it's the dog days of summer and we
> have all be watching/reading our scif... Wipe the sunscreen
> out of your eyes and say hi to David, and let us all know
> what is going on!
>  
> the Witch
> (one of the Moderators... in case you were wondering)

All three trilogies are pretty good.  Also The Sahdow Within and To
Dream in the City Of Sorrows are also quite good.

Alex


--- In Code7R@yahoogroups.com, "davidnavarromontes"
<davidnavarromontes@...> wrote:
>
> What did you all think of the latest offering from B5 I really liked
> it especially Andreas Katsulas touching intro.
>
> Was quite dissapointed to hear there arent going to be anymore though
>
> Havent read any og the books yet are there any I should keep an eye
> out for?
>

What did you all think of the latest offering from B5 I really liked
it especially Andreas Katsulas touching intro.

Was quite dissapointed to hear there arent going to be anymore though

Havent read any og the books yet are there any I should keep an eye
out for?

shadowship wrote:
>
>
> Dito to Frieda
>
> <<<the one
>  > about Anna (I can't remember the name of it right now. >>>
>
> The ShadowWithin by Jeanne Cavelos.
>
> it is a very interesting book.
>


JMS had categorically stated Jeanne Cavelos' "The Shadow Within" and
Kathryn Drennan's "To Dream In The City of Shadows" are 99.9% canon when
they were first published over 10 years ago.  They're both good reads as
they set up the back story for Morden, John and Anna Sheridan in the
former, and those of Marcus Cole and Jeffery Sinclair in the latter.

--= Dennis =--

Dito to Frieda

<<<the one
> about Anna (I can't remember the name of it right now. >>>

The ShadowWithin by Jeanne Cavelos.

it is a very interesting book.

agate gecko wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I have been reading the Babylon 5 books.
>
> I don't mind most of them but I am in the middle of Clark's Law I am
> not too sure about it.
>
> Has anyone else read the books and what do they think?
>








Except for the trilogies (Psi Corps, Centauri, Technomages), the only B5
books worth reading are To Dream in the City of Sorrows and the one
about Anna (I can't remember the name of it right now.  The rest are
mostly garbage.


--
Frieda
-------
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Mark Twain

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Hi all

I have been reading the Babylon 5 books.

I don't mind most of them but I am in the middle of Clark's Law  I am not too
sure about it.

Has anyone else read the books and what do they think?

Cheers
Robyn



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Kudos!!  My vote's in too!  Best of luck!

--= Dennis =--


shadowship wrote:
>
>
> I did!!best luck!!!
> ------------------------------
> IPX1 to Base, IPX 1 to Base..subject is approaching target. I repeat
> subject is approaching target....we lost Bioscan.....oh my god.....it`s
> moving! It`s moving!
> There is only chaos and evolution!

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From: TI_mov

To: Code7R@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:21 AM

Subject: Re: [Code7R] Forwarded: Act Quickly! Your Poem "Coming to America" Is Currently Ranked As A Finalist!

I did too. Best of luck, Frieda!

 

TI_mov

From: Mary Gunter

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:12 PM

To: Code7R@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Code7R] Forwarded: Act Quickly! Your Poem "Coming to America" Is Currently Ranked As A Finalist!

I put in my vote! Keeping my fingers crossed for you
Frieda!
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> 78>
>
> Act Quickly!
>
> Frieda, your poem Coming to America
>
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>
47a711273&m=fefd1072766603&l=fec31770726c0574&s=fe1b157473670c7a7c1278&j
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> know. Have your loved ones show their support by
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TI_mov wrote:
>
> I did too. Best of luck, Frieda!


Thanks!  :_)


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