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#51 From: "Tony Scarfone" <docthunder@...>
Date: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:53 am
Subject: Re: Hello Group!
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I like him.  My only complaint is that he seems to codle Gretchen a lot.

Danny is seriously damaged but Gretchen has her share of baggage.  I've
agreed with most of what he advises them.


--- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, "Mary" <trublond@r...> wrote:

>
> My least favorite part is Dr. Garry! What an unprofessional,
> untrustworthy, slimy, shmuck! I'd slit my wrists too if he were my
> therapist!
>

#50 From: "Mary" <trublond@...>
Date: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:16 am
Subject: Hello Group!
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I am so riveted to this show! I have been from the beginning but am
now so curious as to whether these two are still together. They appear
so doomed.

My favorite part of the show is the brutal honesty! If everyone was
like this in the world, it would be a much easier place to be in! It
eliminates the guessing and teaches people to "check themselves" more
often.

My least favorite part is Dr. Garry! What an unprofessional,
untrustworthy, slimy, shmuck! I'd slit my wrists too if he were my
therapist!

#49 From: "Mary" <trublond@...>
Date: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:06 am
Subject: Last episode...
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Aaaaaaaaaah, now I can sleep, LOL!

#48 From: "Mary" <trublond@...>
Date: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:19 am
Subject: Re: Bi polar
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I don't think Dr. Garry is helping Gretchen, he is making Danny and
Gretchens problems worse!

As for Danny finally realizing Gretchens feelings... I agree! All the
obvious signs are there. She might be okay to just "burn daylight"
with Danny but that won't last. She needs help forgiving him or they
will go nowhere!

--- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa"
<virginiaham1965@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, Blestmomof3@a... wrote:
> >
> > I think, from reading his book and a few comments he made on the
> show, that
> > he HAS seen a shrink and they throw him out after a few sessions
> because they
> > can't help him.  Dr. Garry is as useless as ice to an Eskimo....he
> maybe
> > helping Gretchen but he is CERTAINLY not helping Danny.  How about
> his  comment
> > last week  "ooooohhh Danny, you're so smart... (when Danny was
> realizing that
> > Gretchen may not be in love with him)...NICE, good Dr.,  huh?  lol!
> >Where's Dr Phil?  This family needs a wake up call...
>

#47 From: "Mary" <trublond@...>
Date: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:04 am
Subject: Re: Danny and Gretchen's behavior.. EXACTLY....
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One time I can say for sure it was not real was when Danny and his
two friends were sitting in the bar and his friend asks, "So what do
you think Gretchen is doing right now?" So then Danny calls
Gretchen. First off, how many husbands care what his friends wife is
doing at a certain moment unless he's screwing her himself. What a
set up!

--- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, "Kittie"
<breakingbonaduce@g...> wrote:
>
> That's why... i believe that this whole "reality tv show"
> is not so "REAL" after all.....
>
> would they really subject themselves to losing their children..
over a reality tv show...
>
>
> how much money do they get for this anyway...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lisa
>   To: Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 1:53 PM
>   Subject: [Breaking_Bonaduce] Danny and Gretchen's behavior...
>
>
>   I see this as a joint effort on their parts, and the people
truly
>   suffering are the kids...you can't tell me that the older child
hasn't
>   heard that her parents are messed up freads from her friends at
>   school, that she won't lose friends over this (I personally
would not
>   let my child play at someone's home who had parents like
this...or
>   even remotely like thism also I would not allow a child who had
>   parents like this over at my home, for fear of bringing
drama/violence
>   into my own home).
>   I am a manditory reporter.  If I were to go into their home I
would be
>   in a position to report the NEGLECT and ABUSE that the children
suffer
>   due to Danny and Gretchen's behavior.
>   What an incredibly toxic family.
>   And if I hear Danny or Gretchen say one more time that the other
MADE
>   them behave that way...I am going to scream.
>
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#46 From: "Jaynelle Boden" <jmacfee@...>
Date: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:12 am
Subject: Re: Episode Guides for the show
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I have a question... Does Gretchen have a job? Has she had a job since she met Danny? Where did they meet? I think she needs to give Danny some lovin!!
~~Jaynelle~~
----- Original Message -----
From: monkfish_2
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:55 PM
Subject: [Breaking_Bonaduce] Episode Guides for the show

Hi there, glad to find a Yahoo group about this show! It's been riveting, with it's ups and
downs. I put together some info on Dr. Corgiat, and wrote episode guides for all the shows
and thought you might find all the Danny content assembled there worth a look.
www.allthings-bonaduce.com.

Looking forward to the season finale this weekend. Anyone heard whether there will
definitely be a season 2, yet?

Cheers-
Monk







#45 From: "monkfish_2" <stelladoro@...>
Date: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:55 am
Subject: Episode Guides for the show
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Hi there, glad to find a Yahoo group about this show! It's been riveting, with
it's ups and
downs. I put together some info on Dr. Corgiat, and wrote episode guides for all
the shows
and thought you might find all the Danny content assembled there worth a look.
www.allthings-bonaduce.com.

Looking forward to the season finale this weekend. Anyone heard whether there
will
definitely be a season 2, yet?

Cheers-
Monk

#43 From: "sue2nh" <sue2nh@...>
Date: Wed Nov 9, 2005 2:26 am
Subject: Sundaynite was a bummer!!
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I looked for the show sunday nite, I couldn't find it!! I really look
forward to it all week long, did they skip Nov6 ? Anyway, just wanted
to say hi, I love this show and these people, those kids are so cute-
I know this story has a happy ending, I am so happy Danny went to get
well. I also like Dr.Garry. By the way, I think Garry is his last
name. Anyway KISS Danny

#42 From: racquel twigg <aussiequel@...>
Date: Sun Nov 6, 2005 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: books
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thanks for the info tina..will have a look on amazon


taa heaps
racquel
--- Blestmomof3@... wrote:

> The name of his book is Random Acts of Badness-I got
> mine at the library  but
> it is offered at Amazon.com too!
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Blessings,
> Tina
>




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#41 From: Blestmomof3@...
Date: Thu Nov 3, 2005 8:08 am
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The name of his book is Random Acts of Badness-I got mine at the library but it is offered at Amazon.com too!
 
Hope that helps!
 
Blessings,
Tina

#40 From: racquel twigg <aussiequel@...>
Date: Thu Nov 3, 2005 11:56 am
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hi everyone,
I noticed on one of your messages the mention of a
book by danny bonaduce....I am very interested in the
name and where to get it from.If someone could let me
know,taa....
    Thanks heaps
    Racquel






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#39 From: "Lisa" <virginiaham1965@...>
Date: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:45 am
Subject: Today's show...10/23/05
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Kudos to the guy who told Gretchen that Danny would have to want to
get sober on his own and not as a condition to staying in the
relationship with her.  He did exacly what I would have done...and
Danny's reaction was normal for someone being told that this was on him.
It was painful to watch...I hope that it gets easier.

#38 From: "Lisa" <virginiaham1965@...>
Date: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:16 am
Subject: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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--- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, Susan Leonhardt
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>
> I don't quite understand why you are, getting upset
> with me not answering emails, however since I had to
> travel 600 miles to say good bye to my father and then
> bury him, I think I had a good reason not to answer
> any emails.  Sorry I couldn't drop everything for you
> and get back with a message....
>
> --- Blestmomof3@a... wrote:
>
> > How KIND of you to finish our conversation without
> > giving me the ability to
> > respond.
> >
> > YOU need to really re read your emails because just
> > in case you are
> > delusional...the possibility of becoming friends
> > with Danny (or in my life  anyone
> > like him) is an impossibility...so you are preaching
> > to the choir  honey!
> >
Hi...she was upset at me.  Take care of yourself through this
challenging time.
>
>
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#37 From: Blestmomof3@...
Date: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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    You weren't the person I was referring to.  I'm very sorry for you loss.

#36 From: Susan Leonhardt <munchsmama@...>
Date: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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I don't quite understand why you are, getting upset
with me not answering emails, however since I had to
travel 600 miles to say good bye to my father and then
bury him, I think I had a good reason not to answer
any emails.  Sorry I couldn't drop everything for you
and get back with a message....

--- Blestmomof3@... wrote:

> How KIND of you to finish our conversation without
> giving me the ability to
> respond.
>
> YOU need to really re read your emails because just
> in case you are
> delusional...the possibility of becoming friends
> with Danny (or in my life  anyone
> like him) is an impossibility...so you are preaching
> to the choir  honey!
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#35 From: Blestmomof3@...
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:21 am
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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Actually, I drove Gabby to the prison to see Carlos yesterday and Bree and I bake cookies together.  I LIVE on Wisteria lane, you know,.

#34 From: "Lisa" <virginiaham1965@...>
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:08 am
Subject: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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--- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, Blestmomof3@a... wrote:
>
> You really really really need to LIGHTEN UP!!!!!  It's a friggin TV
  show for
> cryin out louD!!!!  Entertainment....remember that?????  You  must
be a real
> BLAST to be around...psycho analyzing EVERYONE you come in  contact
with.....
>
> This is supposed to be for fun...chatting about a TV SHOW!  Relax a
  little,
> wouldya?
>Except that you are the one who wants to be his friend, and who feels
sorry for the guy...
I am just curious...do you have these thoughts about the Desperate
Housewives as well?  Cuz...that's just a show too...

#33 From: "Kittie" <breakingbonaduce@...>
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:55 am
Subject: Re: Danny and Gretchen's behavior.. EXACTLY....
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That's why... i believe that this whole "reality tv show"
is not so "REAL" after all.....
 
would they really subject themselves to losing their children.. over a reality tv show...
 
 
how much money do they get for this anyway...
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 1:53 PM
Subject: [Breaking_Bonaduce] Danny and Gretchen's behavior...

I see this as a joint effort on their parts, and the people truly
suffering are the kids...you can't tell me that the older child hasn't
heard that her parents are messed up freads from her friends at
school, that she won't lose friends over this (I personally would not
let my child play at someone's home who had parents like this...or
even remotely like thism also I would not allow a child who had
parents like this over at my home, for fear of bringing drama/violence
into my own home).
I am a manditory reporter.  If I were to go into their home I would be
in a position to report the NEGLECT and ABUSE that the children suffer
due to Danny and Gretchen's behavior. 
What an incredibly toxic family.
And if I hear Danny or Gretchen say one more time that the other MADE
them behave that way...I am going to scream. 




#32 From: "Kittie" <breakingbonaduce@...>
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:53 am
Subject: Re: Gretchen the Transvestite...
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Yes,
and.....
I think a lot of the show it SOO set up.....
and...if Gretchen is willing to stay for all these ups and downs of Bonadoomsday...
he will KEEP do to her, what she is willing to take...
 
i really felt for her in the beginning,
but didnt you see that episode, she was SO NOT willing to let the cameras stop
rolling until danny confronted her.....
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: jogirl770
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:43 AM
Subject: [Breaking_Bonaduce] I will probably get attacked on this one.....

I love the show!  I really like Danny and Gretchen but has anyone ever
noticed that Gretchen's voice resembles a transvestite's?  Nothing
against her I feel for her.




#31 From: Blestmomof3@...
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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How KIND of you to finish our conversation without giving me the ability to respond.
 
YOU need to really re read your emails because just in case you are delusional...the possibility of becoming friends with Danny (or in my life anyone like him) is an impossibility...so you are preaching to the choir honey!

#30 From: Lisa <virginiaham1965@...>
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:18 am
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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I could understand that concept if you were volunteering for an agency that helps people who are addicted...or a women's shelter...or some other agency/organization designed to meet the needs of people who have particular issues...but to put yourself out there as a friend to someone who is incapable of giving back, is, in fact, codependent, if that person is an addict, and is behaving toxically.
 
I work, as a counselor for an agency helping the homeless, mentally ill, addicted, etc.  I love my job.  I have good relationships with my clients (and they all know that I support their healthy choices, and am there to assist them in understanding the unhealthy choices that they make).  I could make excuses for each of them...messed up childhood, chronic homelessness, mental illness, etc etc...can all be factors to an addiction...but what it all boils down to is the choice of an individual.  People choose to be addicted.  And people choose to treat others badly when addicted (because the only thing that becomes important is the fix).  It is possible to love someone who is addicted and not to be supportive of their bad habits and choices.  If that occurs at the expense of your own emotional health (as I am certain that a friendship with Danny would be), you are acting out as a codependent in that person's life, and thus hindering the addicted person hitting bottom.  Gretchen is that person for Danny.  As she continues to focus her attention on his issues, she is not doing her own work in defining HER role in this dance...they are both choosing to continue this behavior together...which is preventing him from hitting his bottom sooner.  And she has stated that she is addicted to the relationship, and what it provides for her.  And he supports that by staying with her through all of the chaos that these two create toghether.
The people who really lose out here are the kids...and for them...this is not just "entertainment" as you have stated...Isabella has to deal with her peers seeing her parents acting out on tv.  How sad is that?
 
I do not wish to continue this conversation with you, so if you do in fact choose to reply...that is fine...and wonderful...however it feels like it is getting us nowhere.  I can agree to disagree with you on this.  I am finished.
Take care of yourself...and your husband... 

Blestmomof3@... wrote:
It is not ALWAYS about what a person gets from something....sometimes it's about giving!  Did you ever think about that?  Sometimes it just makes you feel good to do something nice.  Satisfied?  Or does that make me a codependent?  JEEZ!


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#29 From: Blestmomof3@...
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:02 pm
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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It is not ALWAYS about what a person gets from something....sometimes it's about giving!  Did you ever think about that?  Sometimes it just makes you feel good to do something nice.  Satisfied?  Or does that make me a codependent?  JEEZ!

#28 From: "Lisa" <virginiaham1965@...>
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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--- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, Blestmomof3@a... wrote:
>
> You really really really need to LIGHTEN UP!!!!!  It's a friggin TV
show for
> cryin out louD!!!!  Entertainment....remember that?????  You  must
be a real
> BLAST to be around...psycho analyzing EVERYONE you come in  contact
with.....
>
> This is supposed to be for fun...chatting about a TV SHOW!  Relax a
little,
> wouldya?
>
YOu began your original post with "I know you guys are going to attack
me but" so as a person who is not "attacking" but merely asking a
valid question...are you saying that you do not want to answer the
question?
Just mildly curious as to what you as a human being would get from a
friendship with Danny...or with someone similar to him?

#27 From: Blestmomof3@...
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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You really really really need to LIGHTEN UP!!!!!  It's a friggin TV show for cryin out louD!!!!  Entertainment....remember that?????  You must be a real BLAST to be around...psycho analyzing EVERYONE you come in contact with.....
 
This is supposed to be for fun...chatting about a TV SHOW!  Relax a little, wouldya?

#26 From: Lisa <virginiaham1965@...>
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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What this fellow needs are professionals who understand his nature and the nature of his addictive behavior.  If I were in his life in that capacity, I would severe the friendship, as he obviously needs more than a mere friendship would provide.  I would be supportive of him once he finds sobriety (sobriety of the mind-spirit-body), however whoever is in his life at this point (including his children) are not talking to HIM, but rather, they are talking...and having a relationship with...his addiction...and if they choose to talk to him and continue being supportive in ANY capacity...they are supporting the addiction, not Danny.  I must add that his children are way too young to make any distinction.  They have only known their father as to what he is presenting (which is so sad) and have absolutely no choice in the matter, because Gretchen is making a choice to buy into the relationship, and maintain a very passive-aggressive stance in her own right.
Trust me, I know what I am talking about.
What would be YOUR payoff in having a friend who is, in your own words a "LUNATIC and self absorbed alcoholic"?

Blestmomof3@... wrote:
Obviously, he wouldn't be a good friend...he's a LUNATIC and self absorbed alcoholic.  My nature is one to try to be kind and help people whenever I can.  Would I be MARRIED to someone like that?  ABSOLUTELY NOT!  My husband has never done a drug in his life.....
 
I just happen to be a compasionate human being who feels badly for people in distress, whether it is self induced or not-he is suffering.


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#25 From: Blestmomof3@...
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:41 pm
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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Obviously, he wouldn't be a good friend...he's a LUNATIC and self absorbed alcoholic.  My nature is one to try to be kind and help people whenever I can.  Would I be MARRIED to someone like that?  ABSOLUTELY NOT!  My husband has never done a drug in his life.....
 
I just happen to be a compasionate human being who feels badly for people in distress, whether it is self induced or not-he is suffering.

#24 From: "Lisa" <virginiaham1965@...>
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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--- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, Blestmomof3@a... wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 10/16/2005 2:01:52 P.M. US Mountain Standard
Time,
> virginiaham1965@y... writes:
>
> Ahhhh...spoken like a true CODEPENDENT
>
>
> Are you KIDDING me????????  You don't even KNOW me...how can you
judge?
>
Based on what you said...that you want to be his FRIEND and that you
feel SORRY for him...do you believe that he would be a good friend to
you or that he NEEDS a friend to be good to him?

#23 From: Blestmomof3@...
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: Re: I know you guys are going to attack me but....
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In a message dated 10/16/2005 2:01:52 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, virginiaham1965@... writes:
Ahhhh...spoken like a true CODEPENDENT
Are you KIDDING me????????  You don't even KNOW me...how can you judge?

#22 From: "Lisa" <virginiaham1965@...>
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:01 pm
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--- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, Blestmomof3@a... wrote:
>
> I think, from reading his book and a few comments he made on the
show, that
> he HAS seen a shrink and they throw him out after a few sessions
because they
> can't help him.  Dr. Garry is as useless as ice to an Eskimo....he
maybe
> helping Gretchen but he is CERTAINLY not helping Danny.  How about
his  comment
> last week  "ooooohhh Danny, you're so smart... (when Danny was
realizing that
> Gretchen may not be in love with him)...NICE, good Dr.,  huh?  lol!
>Where's Dr Phil?  This family needs a wake up call...

#21 From: "Lisa" <virginiaham1965@...>
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:58 pm
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--- In Breaking_Bonaduce@yahoogroups.com, "Tina" <Blestmomof3@a...>
wrote:
>
> Hey...I am totally addicted to the show.  I too am almost afraid
to
> tune in every week.  I just finished reading Danny's book (Random
Acts
> of Badness) and I have to say....gulp....I feel sorry for the
guy!  (I
> know...I hear you all boo hiss boo hiss)  but he truly is a very
> troubled soul.  He is (and admits to being) self destructive and
> hateful of himself.
>
> I KNOW he is out of control, I too feel sorry for Gretchen and the
> kids, but I do feel badly for Danny too.  It is just a sad
situation.
> Has anyone else read the book?  It really changed my whole
attitude
> about the show and him.  I grew up with the Partridge Family and I
> COULDN'T STAND Danny.  So, I was prepared to enjoy hating him
while
> watching this show.  I CAN'T!  I want to be his friend, I feel
like he
> needs one!  I'm not naive, I know he is a controlling freak and
that a
> lot of his actions are for the camera...I don't know why I just
feel
> BAD for him....
>
> Go ahead, lol, take your best shot...I know it's
coming....siggghhhh...
>Ahhhh...spoken like a true CODEPENDENT...

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